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With all the things in the Bible coming to pass, the one thing I am most interested in is the Anti-Christ. I have heard from many people that they believe Obama is the Anti-Christ. Now, I know that almost every president has been said to be the Anti-Christ by some people. Other beliefs say he paves the way for the Anti-Christ. I'm curious to see what others believe.
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Anti-Christ is hanging out with Cinderella and Snow White in Fairy Tale Land.
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The fact that people call Obama the Anti-Christ, proves that they hate him enough to ignore scripture, so they can attempt to scare those who don't know it well into believing them thereby pulling supporters from him. Thus showing another example of people who do not act like the Christians they claim to be. This is why a great deal of people look at Christians in such poor respect. In the book of James Chapter 1 verses 22-25 we are called to listen to the word and not forget it, but live it! If we claim to be Christians, but do not live like Christians, then our religion is worthless! God calls us to love each other as we love ourselves, and that includes presidents we don't like. Democrat, Repubilcan whatever! If the president fails, the country fails.
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I think Obama is definately an agent of the DEVIL but it says in the Bible that the AntiChrist will bring peace to the middle East for awhile. Unless he can pull a rabbit out of the hat, THIS AIN'T HIM.
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According to 1 John 2:18 there are many antichrists. According to 1 John 4:3 the anti-christ is already here.
According to 1 John 2:22 everyone who denies that Jesus is the "Christ" and denies that he is son of god is the antichrist.
I think it's important to know what the Christ means which is anointed one. Now how can someone already have the same power as God and become anointed at the same time? YOU CAN'T, time and time again you see Christ getting his power from God. Here is just one example, in hebrews 1:1-6 you can see God exalted Jesus to a higher position then the angels and verse 6 clearly says firstborn(first-begotten in KJ). In the bible firstborn means eldest child in a family, so Jesus is the eldest son of God's family and obviously was created since you can't be the firstborn of something without being created. Any questions?
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Anti-Christ is hanging out with Cinderella and Snow White in Fairy Tale Land.
That's unnecessary. If you don't have anything useful to post then please don't post.
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I think Obama is definately an agent of the DEVIL but it says in the Bible that the AntiChrist will bring peace to the middle East for awhile. Unless he can pull a rabbit out of the hat, THIS AIN'T HIM.
True. However, in the news there has been talk of establishing a treaty with Israel. When the war in Iraq is over, we will have a treaty with them. Peace in the middle east is not so far away.
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With all the things in the Bible coming to pass, the one thing I am most interested in is the Anti-Christ. I have heard from many people that they believe Obama is the Anti-Christ. Now, I know that almost every president has been said to be the Anti-Christ by some people. Other beliefs say he paves the way for the Anti-Christ. I'm curious to see what others believe.
I am baptist and I don't believe that the Anti-Christ is the actual Devil but the Devil's Servant. There will also be a False Prophet. There will also be many Anti-Christs, which is basically what Atheists are since they are against Jesus. The Anti-Christ that will rise to power will be loved and bring all kinds of Technology.
You also have to accept his number which is the mark of the beast in order to buy or sell which to me is like the Social Security Number. I have heard with technology that it could require us to get a chip or something inserted into our hand or wrist that has all our information so we wouldn't need cards or cash anymore.
Christians and people that believe in God will be murdered and hurt and persecuted for their beliefs. Right now, it is childish what atheists do to believers but it will only get worse.
In the end days people will love knowledge more than they love God and shun him! What I mean by that is they will remove God completely from society and there you go.
You ever heard the term laugh now cry later? Atheists will laugh at believers and call them idiots and ignorant and be so content with going to Hell until it happens.
It's interesting that you bring up the chip inserted into the hand. There is technology out there that is in use. They've developed microchips for humans, and have started testing these. Right now they're using it for families with kids so they can track them, but the idea is to move it to the workplace. They will install the chips into the back of the hand and forehead where there is the greatest heat fluctuation (I cannot recall why though).
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We as humans are all servants to society. Being forced to work for our country/government in order to continue humanity. Its all a big circle that never ends. There are stories told that the bible has been changed many times throughout history, so who knows what is true and what isnt. Lets bring up parallel universes for a minute. Scientists believe that there is a universe where Hitler was killed, the holocaust never happend, and therefor earth was destroyed from a differant act of violence. Aka a global war. Now how about reincarnation? Or ghosts? Maybe you believe when you die you either go to heaven or hell for eternity? Many differant people, and religions believe in many differant things. Like Walksalone11 said, he believes most of these "facts" are fiction. And whats stopping him from believing that? Be yourself and believe what you wish, dont question others believes but instead aquire them with your own aspects. Ultimately what im trying to say is that his response isnt a waste, you asked for peoples opinions and you recieved one. Dont hate, appreciate.
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We as humans are all servants to society. Being forced to work for our country/government in order to continue humanity. Its all a big circle that never ends. There are stories told that the bible has been changed many times throughout history, so who knows what is true and what isnt. Lets bring up parallel universes for a minute. Scientists believe that there is a universe where Hitler was killed, the holocaust never happend, and therefor earth was destroyed from a differant act of violence. Aka a global war. Now how about reincarnation? Or ghosts? Maybe you believe when you die you either go to heaven or hell for eternity? Many differant people, and religions believe in many differant things. Like Walksalone11 said, he believes most of these "facts" are fiction. And whats stopping him from believing that? Be yourself and believe what you wish, dont question others believes but instead aquire them with your own aspects. Ultimately what im trying to say is that his response isnt a waste, you asked for peoples opinions and you recieved one. Dont hate, appreciate.
I respect opinions, not disrespect. It's one thing to disagree, but it's another to say what I believe in is nothing more than a fairy tale told to children.
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We as humans are all servants to society. Being forced to work for our country/government in order to continue humanity. Its all a big circle that never ends. There are stories told that the bible has been changed many times throughout history, so who knows what is true and what isnt. Lets bring up parallel universes for a minute. Scientists believe that there is a universe where Hitler was killed, the holocaust never happend, and therefor earth was destroyed from a differant act of violence. Aka a global war. Now how about reincarnation? Or ghosts? Maybe you believe when you die you either go to heaven or hell for eternity? Many differant people, and religions believe in many differant things. Like Walksalone11 said, he believes most of these "facts" are fiction. And whats stopping him from believing that? Be yourself and believe what you wish, dont question others believes but instead aquire them with your own aspects. Ultimately what im trying to say is that his response isnt a waste, you asked for peoples opinions and you recieved one. Dont hate, appreciate.
I respect opinions, not disrespect. It's one thing to disagree, but it's another to say what I believe in is nothing more than a fairy tale told to children.
such as your belief in an anti-christ. :0p
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walksalone11 ----some popcorn for ya dude?? :)
wiff budder?
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Some people think OBAMA is the Anti-Christ?? Give me a break!! Finally we have a rational, humane, intelligent President who knows how to keep his pants zipped and is doing his best to clean up the messes created by Bush and Clinton, despite the obstructive idiots in Congress. If Obama is the Anti-Christ, then maybe we've been wrong about the nature of Jesus. Maybe, instead of being the example of all that is good, He is a small-minded, mean-spirited incompetent.
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Some people think OBAMA is the Anti-Christ?? Give me a break!! Finally we have a rational, humane, intelligent President who knows how to keep his pants zipped and is doing his best to clean up the messes created by Bush and Clinton, despite the obstructive idiots in Congress. If Obama is the Anti-Christ, then maybe we've been wrong about the nature of Jesus. Maybe, instead of being the example of all that is good, He is a small-minded, mean-spirited incompetent.
AHEM, According to 1 John 2:18 there are many antichrists. According to 1 John 4:3 the anti-christ is already here.
So, the antichrist is a collection of many antichrists and not just one. Seriously did you guys read my post earlier?
1 John 2:22(NWT) reads 22 Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one that denies the Father and the Son.
So the antichrist will be anyone who denies that Jesus is the christ and unique son of god and also whoever denies the father of christ.
If you want to know who is in charge of the antichrists I suggest you try to follow the bible prophecies about the beasts. Not easy though ::)
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Oh...so I do exist?........MAKE UP MY MIND!!!
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Yeah, the antichrist is Marilyn Manson or something.
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Yeah, the antichrist is Marilyn Manson or something.
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Why do you and other FCers continue to ignore my post, clearly the antichrist is not once person but a collection of them.
@walksalone: Stop trying to pretend your one of the apostles who wrote John you know your not one of them.
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Anti-Christ is hanging out with Cinderella and Snow White in Fairy Tale Land.
That's unnecessary. If you don't have anything useful to post then please don't post.
First off, why would you post something about the end of the world in a debate forum and not expect this?
Secondly, I wouldn't necessarily say it's not useful. Although it may sound rude to a Christian, it's fortunate about humanity. The world isn't going to end from a mythical character. Everyone should be happy.
It's one thing to disagree, but it's another to say what I believe in is nothing more than a fairy tale told to children.
Granted it IS told to children as truth, but there are plenty of characters throughout the world that are said to bring the world to an end. Many in holy texts too. If you think in your mind that yours is the correct one and dismiss the others as not true, you've created a hypocracy.
If Obama is the Anti-Christ, then maybe we've been wrong about the nature of Jesus. Maybe, instead of being the example of all that is good, He is a small-minded, mean-spirited incompetent.
Oh wow. Obama as the anti-christ. Some people are either oddly racist or still mad that Mccain didn't get elected. But I wouldn't label Jesus as those things...if we're going to jump into over-generalizations, I'd say the rules he supposedly told people make him more out to be a hardcore hippy than a small-minded incompetent (which I don't believe he was). He was extremely unique for his time.
Why do you and other FCers continue to ignore my post, clearly the antichrist is not once person but a collection of them.
Everyone has a little anti-christ in them I suppose.
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Yeah, the antichrist is Marilyn Manson or something.
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Why do you and other FCers continue to ignore my post, clearly the antichrist is not once person but a collection of them.
@walksalone: Stop trying to pretend your one of the apostles who wrote John you know your not one of them.
Nope....I am John.
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Everyone knows that *bleep* Clark is the Anit-Christ!!!!!!! :wave:
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Yeah, the antichrist is Marilyn Manson or something.
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Why do you and other FCers continue to ignore my post, clearly the antichrist is not once person but a collection of them.
@walksalone: Stop trying to pretend your one of the apostles who wrote John you know your not one of them.
Nope....I am John.
It will do you good if you stop blaspheming
Hey guys I got an interesting scripture from revelation about the governments CHECK IT OUT
Revelation 13:11 reads 11 And I saw another wild beast ascending out of the earth, and it had two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking as a dragon. 12 And it exercises all the authority of the first wild beast in its sight. And it makes the earth and those who dwell in it worship the first wild beast, whose death-stroke got healed. 13 And it performs great signs, so that it should even make fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind.
A beast with 2 horns represents a dual power, hmm the U.S and Britain share the same language and same laws 0_0.
Hmm a beast who's death-stroke got healed? Before the United Nations was called United Nations it was called league of nations.
So the U.S. and Britain control or manipulate the United Nations and they force everyone to serve it, somehow 0_0.
FIRE OUT OF HEAVEN!!! The U.S. has a weather manipulation gizmo called HAARP, look up jesse venturas conspiracy theory show.
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And I saw another wild beast ascending out of the earth, and it had two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking as a dragon. 12 And it exercises all the authority of the first wild beast in its sight. And it makes the earth and those who dwell in it worship the first wild beast, whose death-stroke got healed. 13 And it performs great signs, so that it should even make fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind.
A beast with 2 horns represents a dual power, hmm the U.S and Britain share the same language and same laws 0_0.
Hmm a beast who's death-stroke got healed? Before the United Nations was called United Nations it was called league of nations.
Duuuude...LSD is one helluva drug, maaaaan. Like...I saw a dragon clawing at a sheep...and the sheep turned into a knight and killed the dragon! So...maybe like the dragon represented Great Britain in the revolutionary war and the sheep was the patriots fighting against Great Britain! This is freakin' me out!
So the U.S. and Britain control or manipulate the United Nations and they force everyone to serve it, somehow
I'd really like to know if you're a die-hard Nostradamus fan.
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And I saw another wild beast ascending out of the earth, and it had two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking as a dragon. 12 And it exercises all the authority of the first wild beast in its sight. And it makes the earth and those who dwell in it worship the first wild beast, whose death-stroke got healed. 13 And it performs great signs, so that it should even make fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind.
A beast with 2 horns represents a dual power, hmm the U.S and Britain share the same language and same laws 0_0.
Hmm a beast who's death-stroke got healed? Before the United Nations was called United Nations it was called league of nations.
Duuuude...LSD is one helluva drug, maaaaan. Like...I saw a dragon clawing at a sheep...and the sheep turned into a knight and killed the dragon! So...maybe like the dragon represented Great Britain in the revolutionary war and the sheep was the patriots fighting against Great Britain! This is freakin' me out!
So the U.S. and Britain control or manipulate the United Nations and they force everyone to serve it, somehow
I'd really like to know if you're a die-hard Nostradamus fan.
I'm not a Nostradamus fan at all but to a person who knows how to read the bible beasts stand for political powers, I read some of daniel so I know how to interpret the beasts in the bible. Oh and I don't do drugs -_-
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Yeah, the antichrist is Marilyn Manson or something.
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Why do you and other FCers continue to ignore my post, clearly the antichrist is not once person but a collection of them.
@walksalone: Stop trying to pretend your one of the apostles who wrote John you know your not one of them.
Nope....I am John.
It will do you good if you stop blaspheming
Hey guys I got an interesting scripture from revelation about the governments CHECK IT OUT
Revelation 13:11 reads 11 And I saw another wild beast ascending out of the earth, and it had two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking as a dragon. 12 And it exercises all the authority of the first wild beast in its sight. And it makes the earth and those who dwell in it worship the first wild beast, whose death-stroke got healed. 13 And it performs great signs, so that it should even make fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind.
A beast with 2 horns represents a dual power, hmm the U.S and Britain share the same language and same laws 0_0.
Hmm a beast who's death-stroke got healed? Before the United Nations was called United Nations it was called league of nations.
So the U.S. and Britain control or manipulate the United Nations and they force everyone to serve it, somehow 0_0.
FIRE OUT OF HEAVEN!!! The U.S. has a weather manipulation gizmo called HAARP, look up jesse venturas conspiracy theory show.
No dude....my name is John....jebus funkin crust!!!
BTW.....you should probably dis-associate yourself from me ;0)
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Yeah, the antichrist is Marilyn Manson or something.
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Why do you and other FCers continue to ignore my post, clearly the antichrist is not once person but a collection of them.
@walksalone: Stop trying to pretend your one of the apostles who wrote John you know your not one of them.
Nope....I am John.
It will do you good if you stop blaspheming
Hey guys I got an interesting scripture from revelation about the governments CHECK IT OUT
:bs:
Revelation 13:11 reads 11 And I saw another wild beast ascending out of the earth, and it had two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking as a dragon. 12 And it exercises all the authority of the first wild beast in its sight. And it makes the earth and those who dwell in it worship the first wild beast, whose death-stroke got healed. 13 And it performs great signs, so that it should even make fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind.
A beast with 2 horns represents a dual power, hmm the U.S and Britain share the same language and same laws 0_0.
Hmm a beast who's death-stroke got healed? Before the United Nations was called United Nations it was called league of nations.
So the U.S. and Britain control or manipulate the United Nations and they force everyone to serve it, somehow 0_0.
FIRE OUT OF HEAVEN!!! The U.S. has a weather manipulation gizmo called HAARP, look up jesse venturas conspiracy theory show.
Do you have to use the word "blaspheming"???? what exactly do you get out of using those "holy roller" words, as I call them.......
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I do not know if Obama is the antiChrist, but those times are coming. The Anit-Christ promotes world peace and unity and strives to make a one-world government (It's getting there.). The currencies are all being made equal (Euro). The Anti-Christ will at some point try to (and slightly succeed to) convince the world that he is the Messiah, and he will even give proof. You can't guess who will be the anti-christ, but hey, world leaders like Obama are the prime suspects. lol. I'm actually pretty excited about the endtimes with all the Earthquakes happening. LOL
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I do not know if Obama is the antiChrist, but those times are coming. The Anit-Christ promotes world peace and unity and strives to make a one-world government (It's getting there.). The currencies are all being made equal (Euro). The Anti-Christ will at some point try to (and slightly succeed to) convince the world that he is the Messiah, and he will even give proof. You can't guess who will be the anti-christ, but hey, world leaders like Obama are the prime suspects. lol. I'm actually pretty excited about the endtimes with all the Earthquakes happening. LOL
That's what i'm talking about now your getting it. Your still believing that the anti-christ will only be one person though that's the only problem but otherwise i'm happy someone is finally starting to see the signs!!!!! :thumbsup:
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Obama is NOT the anti-christ!!!! LA LA Land!!!! I just cant believe all of the crap I am hearing in this debate. You know what, if all of these earthquakes and natural disasters are truly so-called emerging signs of the end of the world, it doesn't matter what you believe. If the earth happens to fall, then so be it, what are we gonna do??? You can pray all you want, and quote scripture until you are blue in the face, claim that the
"Anti-christ" is mowing the white house lawn if you want to, Whatever!!!! But it won't change a thing-If you are going to die-Your'e gonna die! Nature is an awesome force, and it could care less about your beliefs, it cannot be stopped, and how we evolve to adjust to it will tell us alot about the human race. In order to survive something like this, leaving the fairy tales behind and jumping on the reality wagon may give some incite to what we should do as human beings if faced with such a tragedy.
I guarantee you that "the anti-christ" will not be hovering over you as you lay dying, laughing and professing his/her victories over the failures of humanity, its so far fetched, its ridiculous! If the world falls, no matter what you have done in your life, or who or what you have pledge allegiance to, those objects are obsolete. They just won't matter anymore, and I guarantee you that even the most kindest people will be ready to push someone weaker in to the mud to get themselves or their family to safety. Don't get me wrong, some people will sacrifice their lives for others, but believe me, the ratio will not be very even. Surprised? I'm not!!! Why?- because in reality, human beings are very selfish, and when it comes down to fight or flight response in those situations, when there isn't a chance to survive, get ready to be disappointed by some of the nicest, most religious people you know. The scripture in the bible talks about selfishness, but words on a page won't stop nature, ever.
Everyone is going to run for their lives, everyone will be terrified, everyone will cry and weep, and if you so desire, the so called "anti christ" won't finish mowing his lawn and it will be survival of the fittest on the largest scale you have ever seen. And no one person on this planet that people claim to be the manifestation of "the anti-christ", will be a catalyst in these events. Get a Grip people!!!
Just get prepared for natural disasters, and don't read too much into whats been going on. If the world decided to shift tomorrow, the last thing I want to hear from someone fleeing next to me is something stupid, like...." See?? I told you President Obama was the Anti-Christ!" "thats whyall of this stuff is happening!!!" :bs:
I will punch them the "F" out and keep trying to survive with my family..... :thumbsup:
Keep Moving!!!!!!
Vin Diesel-
The Chronicles of Riddick
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TZS tells it how it is. People tend to believe because we have natural disasters occuring a lot over the world that this is a sign of the end. The fact of the matter is if you were alive 50+ years ago, you'd be lucky to hear about any natural catastrophies outside of the US. Since our technology is so advanced now, we hear about everything going on in the world. Our knowledge of these events is accelerated. We're on-the-spot of knowing what's going on. And you know what? It's nothing new. These things have happened steadily throughout history.
Believing Obama is the Anti-Christ is pathetic. Come on, people. I rub my forehead from the headache I get knowing people think this.
Look at other things but the bible. Look at the world around you. Do a little research once a day. Here, I'll help-
Educational research of the day-- Look up "Tunguska Event".
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That's what i'm talking about now your getting it. Your still believing that the anti-christ will only be one person though that's the only problem but otherwise i'm happy someone is finally starting to see the signs!!!!! :thumbsup:
So I did some reading (in the Bible), and I do agree that I think the term "antichrist" has been a little misunderstood. It talks a lot in John's letters that there are many antichrists, yet in Revelation, it doesn't use the same word. I think everyone just assumes the Beast is the same as the AntiChrist. So when people think of the "AntiChrist", they think of the Beast Out of the Earth. So if you just call it a different name, you can say the same stuff. So when I think of the AntiChrist, I think of the Beast, but I am now persuaded that the term "antichrist" means all the people who deny Jesus came into the world as flesh. Therefore, most of the people on FusionCash are antichrists. Yayyyyyyyy.. LOL
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Blah blah blah
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No the anti christ is not here if you read in revelations the anti christ is not til after the events of wormwood the real question is wormwood upon us
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OMG THERE WAS A RIVER NEAR THE CHERNOBYL NPP CALLED WORMWOOD! IT MUST BE A SIGN! REPENT, SINNERS! THE END IS NEAR SO LET'S ALL LOOK FORWARD TO THE DESTRUCTION OF ALL OUR ACHIEVEMENTS THROUGH THE AGES!
What a progressive mindset you Christians have.
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yes
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I believe that is bullshit. Period. The End.
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OMG THERE WAS A RIVER NEAR THE CHERNOBYL NPP CALLED WORMWOOD! IT MUST BE A SIGN! REPENT, SINNERS! THE END IS NEAR SO LET'S ALL LOOK FORWARD TO THE DESTRUCTION OF ALL OUR ACHIEVEMENTS THROUGH THE AGES!
What a progressive mindset you Christians have.
You Rock,it's nice to have some comic relief in all of this madness......... :thumbsup:
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I think you would know if the Anti-Christ was here.
Soooooo, is the anti-christ gonna leave a message for everyone, or something? an Email?
"You have 1 New-and Final messsage From- The Anti-Christ" at 12:00pm:
"Greetings, this is your Anti-Christ calling, I just wanted to leave you a brief message to let you know that the Four Horseman were kind enough to drop me off in town so I can get the word out about our "end of days" festivities comming up. Um... just thought I'd drop you a line about what's been planned. The apocalypse IS A GO!!!! YEA!!! Please begin to get ready for some hot activities. Um, what else..... OH, make sure that you have those "The Anti-Christ Rocks" signs ready for my minions to carry for the End of the World rally going on this Sunday- I believe I left you in charge of that.....lot's of dark colors, blood reds, fire, you know. EVEN BETTER- Actuall blood would be grea!! Uhm... you know, anarchy symbols, upside-down stars, pictures of virgin sacrifices, you know, the usual stuff, Um, what Else.....Oh Yes.....One more thing....don't forget to praise our dark lord and saviour, and let all of the christians know that I have arrived, no suprises here, OKay? Well, I think that about covers it...Uhm...Good luck, and Prepare yourselves to burn in the eternal fires of hell foreve!!! Good times!!!!
P.S. If you have to reach me, although it might be too late, my cell phone is area code (666) 666-6666. And yes, those are all upsidedown 9's!!!!!
(Evil Laugh Here)-HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Check it!!!!!!
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I think you would know if the Anti-Christ was here.
Soooooo, is the anti-christ gonna leave a message for everyone, or something? an Email?
"You have 1 New-and Final messsage From- The Anti-Christ" at 12:00pm:
"Greetings, this is your Anti-Christ calling, I just wanted to leave you a brief message to let you know that the Four Horseman were kind enough to drop me off in town so I can get the word out about our "end of days" festivities comming up. Um... just thought I'd drop you a line about what's been planned. The apocalypse IS A GO!!!! YEA!!! Please begin to get ready for some hot activities. Um, what else..... OH, make sure that you have those "The Anti-Christ Rocks" signs ready for my minions to carry for the End of the World rally going on this Sunday- I believe I left you in charge of that.....lot's of dark colors, blood reds, fire, you know. EVEN BETTER- Actuall blood would be grea!! Uhm... you know, anarchy symbols, upside-down stars, pictures of virgin sacrifices, you know, the usual stuff, Um, what Else.....Oh Yes.....One more thing....don't forget to praise our dark lord and saviour, and let all of the christians know that I have arrived, no suprises here, OKay? Well, I think that about covers it...Uhm...Good luck, and Prepare yourselves to burn in the eternal fires of hell foreve!!! Good times!!!!
P.S. If you have to reach me, although it might be too late, my cell phone is area code (666) 666-6666. And yes, those are all upsidedown 9's!!!!!
(Evil Laugh Here)-HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Check it!!!!!!
no, I think you would know because revelations would happen and the Anti-Christ would be trying to give you the mark of the beast in order to buy or sell.
Do I think it is ever going to happen? No, not really.
You do realize that you just contraindicted yourself, right? Why would you quote the bible and all of its passages all over this forum and then cancel yourself out by saying that? I think youneed to take a good look at what you were taught to believe in, and what you precieve as the truth.
The English language is wonderful! Words can make you all fuzzy and warm inside, and even give you inspiration and hope, but words don't replace reality, they only make it interesting. You can post quotes from the bible that are beautiful and lyrical, but if it ain't you, then what weight does it carry? That's something you'll have to figure out for yourself, reguardless of what me, or anyonelse says in this forum. Goooood Luuuuuck Wiiiiith Thaaattttt!
p.s. I have a confession to make, I am the Anti-Christ-SORRY :BangHead: SPOILER ALERT!!!!!! :wave:Wa Waaa!
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I think people make fun of the bible becuase they themselves feel like they can't meet the standards so there like why try i'm just going to make fun of it cause it's easy, fun and i'm going to lose his approval anyway. How sad, anyway as for the bible's endtimes prophecy you have to look at the statistical evidence and compare it. It's clear the numbers of deaths from each event have been much higher then those in the past.
@StephaBon: There's a problem with your reasoning about the beast in revelation, there's 2 beasts in revelation and one dragon. Look for the description of the wild beast and Babylon the great in revelation chapter 17 and then tell me what you think ok. Everyone else read it to please, after reading it you won't think i'm crazy :thumbsup:!!!!!!
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Christ == Messiah.
The "anti" part in Greek, means opposite/contrast. SO an anti-christ is a false messiah. In all fairness, Obama actually DOES fit that criteria :)
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The English language is wonderful! Words can make you all fuzzy and warm inside, and even give you inspiration and hope, but words don't replace reality, they only make it interesting. You can post quotes from the bible that are beautiful and lyrical, but if it ain't you, then what weight does it carry?
You brought a tear to my eye, sir. lol thank you.
I think people make fun of the bible becuase they themselves feel like they can't meet the standards so there like why try i'm just going to make fun of it cause it's easy, fun and i'm going to lose his approval anyway. How sad, anyway as for the bible's endtimes prophecy you have to look at the statistical evidence and compare it.
We make 'fun of the bible' because it's a bunch of stories full of pseudoscience and atrocious behavior from a jealous god trying to make his point. And people just go bonkers and use it as a weapon towards anyone who does not agree with them. How sad. We're not worried about living up to standards we don't associate ourselves with and that the church-goers can't live up to either.
It's clear the numbers of deaths from each event have been much higher then those in the past.
Is this because of the reasons I stated much earlier in this thread or is it because you read it from one of your religious books? Could you post some (non-creationist) scientific sources of this information? Granted there's some random variables here such as more people living on our planet, building structures holding more people, poverty...but just glancing at a search it says death-rates from disasters have decreased over 90% since the early 1900's.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/05/going-down-death-rates-due-to-extreme-weather-events/
In all fairness, Obama actually DOES fit that criteria
True, but any charismatic leader in our existence and throughout history fits the criteria.
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True, but any charismatic leader in our existence and throughout history fits the criteria.
True. But not many of them had the title of "messiah" attached to them by their followers ;)
If Obama is the Beast, does that make Ron Paul and Bob Barr the two witnesses?
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Just because someone promises that things will change/get better, does not make them the biblical messiah. It's the political manuevers and slogans that mistakenly cried to pathetic religious nutjobs. Nothing more. Any person with major popularity could do it given their knowledge of the public. Ugh... this...this is just sad and terrible... :(
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I think people make fun of the bible becuase they themselves feel like they can't meet the standards so there like why try i'm just going to make fun of it cause it's easy, fun and i'm going to lose his approval anyway. How sad, anyway as for the bible's endtimes prophecy you have to look at the statistical evidence and compare it. It's clear the numbers of deaths from each event have been much higher then those in the past.
@StephaBon: There's a problem with your reasoning about the beast in revelation, there's 2 beasts in revelation and one dragon. Look for the description of the wild beast and Babylon the great in revelation chapter 17 and then tell me what you think ok. Everyone else read it to please, after reading it you won't think i'm crazy :thumbsup:!!!!!!
NO! I make fun of the Bible because its hilarious to see people with that "Flock Mentality" of religion react to any given situation ocurring in this world similar to what they have read in the bible, and they just can't wait to point it ou! TOGETHER !!! Its almost like a religious "crutch" of safety, a biblical "OH YEA??? Well... it says here in revelations, blah blah blah blah BLAH!!"
You know what, I'd might as well tell my child that little red riding hood was a real story, and that we should model our lives after that book!!!!
And its freaking funny as hell!!!! People love quoting prophicies and bible verses as an explaination for everything wrong or right in this world... Waste of time!!!!!
Its almost like I'm watching you play "Magic, The Gathering" as I read your posts!!!!! example:
"OMG, if you interpret the beast the wrong way in Revelations, I can do 5 damage to you and take you out of the game!!!!"
..... and I play magic too!!!!!!
Just look at what you got right in front of you, a living breathing planet that's just here all for you!!!! Nothing will save you from the end.......Even if it makes you feel good to read it........... and that is why I make fun of the bible!
(evil laugh here)
REALITY!!!!!!! :thumbsup:It works!!!! :thumbsup:
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I think people make fun of the bible becuase they themselves feel like they can't meet the standards so there like why try i'm just going to make fun of it cause it's easy, fun and i'm going to lose his approval anyway. How sad, anyway as for the bible's endtimes prophecy you have to look at the statistical evidence and compare it. It's clear the numbers of deaths from each event have been much higher then those in the past.
@StephaBon: There's a problem with your reasoning about the beast in revelation, there's 2 beasts in revelation and one dragon. Look for the description of the wild beast and Babylon the great in revelation chapter 17 and then tell me what you think ok. Everyone else read it to please, after reading it you won't think i'm crazy :thumbsup:!!!!!!
NO! I make fun of the Bible because its hilarious to see people with that "Flock Mentality" of religion react to any given situation ocurring in this world similar to what they have read in the bible, and they just can't wait to point it ou! TOGETHER !!! Its almost like a religious "crutch" of safety, a biblical "OH YEA??? Well... it says here in revelations, blah blah blah blah BLAH!!"
You know what, I'd might as well tell my child that little red riding hood was a real story, and that we should model our lives after that book!!!!
And its freaking funny as hell!!!! People love quoting prophicies and bible verses as an explaination for everything wrong or right in this world... Waste of time!!!!!
Its almost like I'm watching you play "Magic, The Gathering" as I read your posts!!!!! example:
"OMG, if you interpret the beast the wrong way in Revelations, I can do 5 damage to you and take you out of the game!!!!"
..... and I play magic too!!!!!!
Just look at what you got right in front of you, a living breathing planet that's just here all for you!!!! Nothing will save you from the end.......Even if it makes you feel good to read it........... and that is why I make fun of the bible!
(evil laugh here)
REALITY!!!!!!! :thumbsup:It works!!!! :thumbsup:
I can't really read you, however I think your saying this because inside you seen and witnessed great religious hypocrisy. You also use the fairy tale line because you don't want to acknowledge that it's real nor do you want to find out how the previous prophecies and the ones to come are real. I'm guessing you also don't want to have any form of a study even if it's free to time indefinite. As for the dragon reference it makes perfect sense to illustrate Satan as the Dragon in Revelation , all the nations worshiped a horned creature Egypt,Assyria etc. As for mythical creatures in the bible they're not literal if that's what your taking, it's symbolic. As for God's time "seemly" taking to long to come, it hasn't even been a week in God's time as one day to God is 1,000 years 2 peter chapter 3 verse 8 *stupid cool emoticon code* !!!!! According to bible chronology 2026 will be the seventh day. For most people this would seem a little out there but when you actually study the whole bible it's not really out there. I know some of you want to actually learn you wouldn't invest so much time ridiculing it if you didn't.
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Its almost like I'm watching you play "Magic, The Gathering" as I read your posts!!!!! example: "OMG, if you interpret the beast the wrong way in Revelations, I can do 5 damage to you and take you out of the game!!!!"
I laughed at this. Like...really laughed. Too funny.
REALITY!!!!!!! :thumbsup:It works!!!!
I think the problem in saying this is you're talking to people that think these myths are a reality. And they're so focused on proving it to you that they sound crazy. Our reality is the actual physical reality. When we show them it, they think we're delusional because we don't accept their reality. But we have the advantage of being skeptical. We can sniff out problems and know how things work here. We can tell fact from fiction. Our feet are on the ground. Theres aren't.
You also use the fairy tale line because you don't want to acknowledge that it's real nor do you want to find out how the previous prophecies and the ones to come are real.
I'm sorry to inform you but they aren't real. You can argue with your little black book all you want to tell us the peppered 'facts', but they are myths by definition.
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I am confused because you say you believe in God but then you say it is a bunch of crap (basically) so what in the world do you believe? Just that there is a God?
I'd explain but I'm not sure you'd understand. So I'll take the cheap way out and wiki it here for quick reference-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism
I don't recall saying that believing in god is crap. I believe defining or personalizing it with ridiculous claims (such as the anti-christ being Obama to such things as parting a sea) is a bunch of crap. That is all I ever attack when in an argument on the subject. I would suggest if you have any further questions, relay them to the other massive thread you posted your sexy-ascii graphic on.
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I think people make fun of the bible becuase they themselves feel like they can't meet the standards so there like why try i'm just going to make fun of it cause it's easy, fun and i'm going to lose his approval anyway. How sad, anyway as for the bible's endtimes prophecy you have to look at the statistical evidence and compare it. It's clear the numbers of deaths from each event have been much higher then those in the past.
@StephaBon: There's a problem with your reasoning about the beast in revelation, there's 2 beasts in revelation and one dragon. Look for the description of the wild beast and Babylon the great in revelation chapter 17 and then tell me what you think ok. Everyone else read it to please, after reading it you won't think i'm crazy :thumbsup:!!!!!!
NO! I make fun of the Bible because its hilarious to see people with that "Flock Mentality" of religion react to any given situation ocurring in this world similar to what they have read in the bible, and they just can't wait to point it ou! TOGETHER !!! Its almost like a religious "crutch" of safety, a biblical "OH YEA??? Well... it says here in revelations, blah blah blah blah BLAH!!"
You know what, I'd might as well tell my child that little red riding hood was a real story, and that we should model our lives after that book!!!!
And its freaking funny as hell!!!! People love quoting prophicies and bible verses as an explaination for everything wrong or right in this world... Waste of time!!!!!
Its almost like I'm watching you play "Magic, The Gathering" as I read your posts!!!!! example:
"OMG, if you interpret the beast the wrong way in Revelations, I can do 5 damage to you and take you out of the game!!!!"
..... and I play magic too!!!!!!
Just look at what you got right in front of you, a living breathing planet that's just here all for you!!!! Nothing will save you from the end.......Even if it makes you feel good to read it........... and that is why I make fun of the bible!
(evil laugh here)
REALITY!!!!!!! :thumbsup:It works!!!! :thumbsup:
I can't really read you, however I think your saying this because inside you seen and witnessed great religious hypocrisy. You also use the fairy tale line because you don't want to acknowledge that it's real nor do you want to find out how the previous prophecies and the ones to come are real. I'm guessing you also don't want to have any form of a study even if it's free to time indefinite. As for the dragon reference it makes perfect sense to illustrate Satan as the Dragon in Revelation , all the nations worshiped a horned creature Egypt,Assyria etc. As for mythical creatures in the bible they're not literal if that's what your taking, it's symbolic. As for God's time "seemly" taking to long to come, it hasn't even been a week in God's time as one day to God is 1,000 years 2 peter chapter 3 verse 8 *stupid cool emoticon code* !!!!! According to bible chronology 2026 will be the seventh day. For most people this would seem a little out there but when you actually study the whole bible it's not really out there. I know some of you want to actually learn you wouldn't invest so much time ridiculing it if you didn't.
I rise way above the standards of the Bible, I am not binded by any religious beliefs or writings, because it is a "fictional guide to doomsday". The fact that you brought back up the stupid "Dragon" reference in revelations, you were'nt paying attention to what I posted, you were paying attention to yourself and your own SuperDuper Knowledge of the Bible that you are so proud to share with the world!!!!
Religious stories aren't off limits to make fun of, that's part of what makes us human MAN!! Furthermore, don't school me about freakin' scripture...
1st of all,(and unfortunately) I grew up in a Black Baptist church background, religion was rammed down my throat everyday by my dad, which carries alot of bearing on why I do not care to learn or believe in this bull. Learning something new in your life should be a fun experience, NOT traumatizing. Besides the fact that there were 98% hypocrits in the church, the very same ones who rattled off scripture everywhere they went, because they just liked the sound of their own voices really didn't give a damn about you at all!! Case in point??? My father was a deacon in the church we attended, and there was a woman in the Wed night bible study class that found him attractive and attempted to start something with him....He almost took her up on the offer. Now this, coming from the biggest HOLY ROLLER in my family???? Ladies and Gentlemen, MY FATHER- WTF!!!!!
How exactly do you process that one!! The Bible does'nt have an answer for me or anyone, I don't care how much you believe- Reading about it and seeing it happen right in front of you are 2 different things! That chick brought a lot of heartache to my family, and nearly broke up my parents. I am adopted, so you see how that would have sucked for me. I was and still am fed up. Don't come in my face everyday telling me to read the bible and live my life without sin when your'e swimmin' in it!! Don't forget to mention all kinds of money that we gave to the church which coencidentally funded the Pastor's brand new "Gold tiled shower" in his office! W-T-F?????? I don't want to fund a shower for him, He can do that at home or at a gym, like a normal person-OR with his own money!!!!!
Another example, you say? Sure!!!
The last church that I ever went to with my parents, right before I graduated high school was the type that sported flags and instruments and had alot of dancing around(Me and my mom got a great chuckle out of it). They also spoke in "tongues" there which was also useless! Righ before the service was over, a lady stood up to "testify" which should have been fine to do in any church as far as I was concerned at the time. The Pastor of the church told everyone to sit down and be quiet, and when we did, she was the only one left standing, continuing to try and adress the church. The Pastor pointed his finger at her, as if she had stolen something, and said "STOP!!!" and She froze. She was pretty far back behind us, so he basically yelled across the audience, and singled her out. All of the music stopped at that time, everyone sat down, only the pastor and this lady remained standing. It was as if she were in shock. Of course, we thought the Pastor was going to allow her to tell her story, but he ignored her , and began speaking in "tongues". For 1hr and 30 minutes, she stood there, the sermon continued, the dancing and flag bearing continued, offering went by, the choir sang at least 3 songs, and she did not move one muscle. He did not adress her once that entire time, he closed his sermon, and people began to leave. But still, this lady remained standing there, softly sobbing to herself. My mother and I watched her the whole time, and could not understand why she stood there, until the deacons came to take her out. She told them to leave her alone, and they forced her to gather her things and walk out. Outside, she told us," what he did was wrong, a man of god doesn't do that to no one". "I just wanted to tell my story, and that ain't right!!" She, of course was sobbing at the same time, my mom offered her a ciggarett and some comfort, and she accepted it.
The pastor never acknowledged her during that entire time and left her to stand there like a fool!!!! Very strange behavior in a place of worship. Why would you have bouncers carying out an old lady for wanting to testify????? She didn't disrupt anything and she wasn't a mean person, she just wanted to share, and they thwarted it.
I gotta tell ya, that was pretty much it for me, no one should have control over someone like this, if you are supposed to be open and accepting in a house of worship, that is not it!!
I wrote a paper on this incident and all of the other bull that happened for my final assignment in my English Literature class in High School. I got a B-, but it was well earned, in my opinion
Secondly, I just have to ask, are you a licenced professional Psychologist? You seem to have an answer for everything that I write, like you just know everything, I sure hope you won't charge me extra for this post, it ran kind of long....................HA HA HA!!!!!
PS Can you Read Me KNOW????????
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With all the things in the Bible coming to pass, the one thing I am most interested in is the Anti-Christ. I have heard from many people that they believe Obama is the Anti-Christ. Now, I know that almost every president has been said to be the Anti-Christ by some people. Other beliefs say he paves the way for the Anti-Christ. I'm curious to see what others believe.
The Obama - Anti-Christ conspiracy, was apparently started or promoted/propagandized by a extremely right-wing American church/group. It is just a political smear and the way Christians insult President Obama and still look like good Christians.
If you are Christian, just remember where your citizenship is (Phillipians 3:20), and that there are many anti-christs (1 John 2:18-19), and then you might realize that these kinds of questions are irrelevant. People need God, and your president, no matter how Texan or black he is, is not who you should be following; he is not and cannot save the world, unlike the one you should be following.
Kinda kills the thread, doesn't it? I hope...
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Definition: Antichrist means against or instead of Christ. The term applies to all who deny what the Bible says about Jesus Christ, all who oppose his Kingdom, and all who mistreat his followers. It also includes individuals, organizations, and nations that falsely claim to represent Christ or that improperly ascribe to themselves the role of Messiah.
So you would have to be a true follower of Jesus
know what his Kingdom is and what it will accomplish
and who the true God is to regonize the antichrist as a whole
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Hello, I would like to introduce myself-Anti-christ #666-reporting for duty!!!!!! Nice to meet you! Do I know the Devil! DO I!!! Where practically BFF's man! Yeah, yeah, were TIGHT!!!!! Were always going out and shopping for new pitch forks together, getting our cloven hoves re-shoed, horns sharpend to perfection, you know BFF stuff!!! Then we chill out at the end of the night back in the good old "G-O-H" bar (Gates of Hell) you know, down on 56th and Hellfire St. Gotta always order our favorite drinks-two sacrificial virgin cocktails,YUMMY!! Somebody is ALWAYS in the mood to make a deal with the Devil after a couple of drinks, right!!! Yeah, we should all get together or something, he throws great parties, Blowout!! Good Times!!!
"G" and silent "J"------YEA, we really don't speak them anymore, doesn't "G"'s son goes to that other high school?
They're our rivals!!!!! HA-HA!
Just making it "Real" for everyone........but not really!!!! I find humor in everything, and that keeps me grounded, and I don't need religious faith to accomplish that!!!!
:wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:
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Wow, I just spent a lot of (possibly wasted) time I wll never get back reading through this entire thread. I am amazed after reading so many fanciful quotes from 'The Great Book' - NOT "Green Eggs and Ham", the other one ;D that there still exists the capability of knowing how to cash in on FC or even go to a bank without divine guidance! It makes me sad, and also terrifies me, to realize that the mentality still exists (in otherwise intelligent people) of turning the written word into the everyday truth of life as we all know it.
Put down some scientifically proven theories for the great number of deaths as a result of natural disasters and changing weather. Cite some valid reasons for huge economic downfalls and the current state of this country and others. Bone up on a little history of previous
'Messiahs' such as Reverend Jim Jones, David Koresh, Pol Pot, Adolf Hitler, the list goes on......
Take a close look at any of those and much more that are classified as witnessed by other humans and very, very real and I will listen and think about all aspects of it. But start the citings of biblical rhetoric and I am outta here in a New York minute. What I say has absolutely nothing to do with not wanting to be a kind, giving, and loving person to the best of my abilities. It is simply pointing out just how ridiculous so many beliefs start out as a theoretical possibility in the minds of scholars and before you know it, an entire population is jumping off the cliffs like a bunch of lemmings because yet another another end of the world looms on the horizon. We will NEVER know or fully understand the reasons behind all that happens in nature and on this planet, but giving credence to an Anti-Christ (or an entire group of the greedy little fellas as has been stated) is beyond my comprehension. I am soooo thankful it is!
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Put down some scientifically proven theories for the great number of deaths as a result of natural disasters and changing weather. Cite some valid reasons for huge economic downfalls and the current state of this country and others. Bone up on a little history of previous
'Messiahs' such as Reverend Jim Jones, David Koresh, Pol Pot, Adolf Hitler, the list goes on......
Unless you're ignorant enough to fall for creationist sources, this isn't gonna happen.
It is simply pointing out just how ridiculous so many beliefs start out as a theoretical possibility in the minds of scholars and before you know it, an entire population is jumping off the cliffs like a bunch of lemmings because yet another another end of the world looms on the horizon.
More world for us, right? You should definately stick around.
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With all the things in the Bible coming to pass, the one thing I am most interested in is the Anti-Christ. I have heard from many people that they believe Obama is the Anti-Christ. Now, I know that almost every president has been said to be the Anti-Christ by some people. Other beliefs say he paves the way for the Anti-Christ. I'm curious to see what others believe.
oh yes HE is here unfortunely
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Anti-Christ is hanging out with Cinderella and Snow White in Fairy Tale Land.
Well that's disappointing... I mean, what kind of Anti-Christ hangs out with princesses? He should be hanging out with Darth Vader or Ann Coulter...
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I think people make fun of the bible becuase they themselves feel like they can't meet the standards so there like why try i'm just going to make fun of it cause it's easy, fun and i'm going to lose his approval anyway. How sad, anyway as for the bible's endtimes prophecy you have to look at the statistical evidence and compare it. It's clear the numbers of deaths from each event have been much higher then those in the past.
@StephaBon: There's a problem with your reasoning about the beast in revelation, there's 2 beasts in revelation and one dragon. Look for the description of the wild beast and Babylon the great in revelation chapter 17 and then tell me what you think ok. Everyone else read it to please, after reading it you won't think i'm crazy :thumbsup:!!!!!!
NO! I make fun of the Bible because its hilarious to see people with that "Flock Mentality" of religion react to any given situation ocurring in this world similar to what they have read in the bible, and they just can't wait to point it ou! TOGETHER !!! Its almost like a religious "crutch" of safety, a biblical "OH YEA??? Well... it says here in revelations, blah blah blah blah BLAH!!"
You know what, I'd might as well tell my child that little red riding hood was a real story, and that we should model our lives after that book!!!!
And its freaking funny as hell!!!! People love quoting prophicies and bible verses as an explaination for everything wrong or right in this world... Waste of time!!!!!
Its almost like I'm watching you play "Magic, The Gathering" as I read your posts!!!!! example:
"OMG, if you interpret the beast the wrong way in Revelations, I can do 5 damage to you and take you out of the game!!!!"
..... and I play magic too!!!!!!
Just look at what you got right in front of you, a living breathing planet that's just here all for you!!!! Nothing will save you from the end.......Even if it makes you feel good to read it........... and that is why I make fun of the bible!
(evil laugh here)
REALITY!!!!!!! :thumbsup:It works!!!! :thumbsup:
I can't really read you, however I think your saying this because inside you seen and witnessed great religious hypocrisy. You also use the fairy tale line because you don't want to acknowledge that it's real nor do you want to find out how the previous prophecies and the ones to come are real. I'm guessing you also don't want to have any form of a study even if it's free to time indefinite. As for the dragon reference it makes perfect sense to illustrate Satan as the Dragon in Revelation , all the nations worshiped a horned creature Egypt,Assyria etc. As for mythical creatures in the bible they're not literal if that's what your taking, it's symbolic. As for God's time "seemly" taking to long to come, it hasn't even been a week in God's time as one day to God is 1,000 years 2 peter chapter 3 verse 8 *stupid cool emoticon code* !!!!! According to bible chronology 2026 will be the seventh day. For most people this would seem a little out there but when you actually study the whole bible it's not really out there. I know some of you want to actually learn you wouldn't invest so much time ridiculing it if you didn't.
I rise way above the standards of the Bible, I am not binded by any religious beliefs or writings, because it is a "fictional guide to doomsday". The fact that you brought back up the stupid "Dragon" reference in revelations, you were'nt paying attention to what I posted, you were paying attention to yourself and your own SuperDuper Knowledge of the Bible that you are so proud to share with the world!!!!
Religious stories aren't off limits to make fun of, that's part of what makes us human MAN!! Furthermore, don't school me about freakin' scripture...
1st of all,(and unfortunately) I grew up in a Black Baptist church background, religion was rammed down my throat everyday by my dad, which carries alot of bearing on why I do not care to learn or believe in this bull. Learning something new in your life should be a fun experience, NOT traumatizing. Besides the fact that there were 98% hypocrits in the church, the very same ones who rattled off scripture everywhere they went, because they just liked the sound of their own voices really didn't give a damn about you at all!! Case in point??? My father was a deacon in the church we attended, and there was a woman in the Wed night bible study class that found him attractive and attempted to start something with him....He almost took her up on the offer. Now this, coming from the biggest HOLY ROLLER in my family???? Ladies and Gentlemen, MY FATHER- WTF!!!!!
How exactly do you process that one!! The Bible does'nt have an answer for me or anyone, I don't care how much you believe- Reading about it and seeing it happen right in front of you are 2 different things! That chick brought a lot of heartache to my family, and nearly broke up my parents. I am adopted, so you see how that would have sucked for me. I was and still am fed up. Don't come in my face everyday telling me to read the bible and live my life without sin when your'e swimmin' in it!! Don't forget to mention all kinds of money that we gave to the church which coencidentally funded the Pastor's brand new "Gold tiled shower" in his office! W-T-F?????? I don't want to fund a shower for him, He can do that at home or at a gym, like a normal person-OR with his own money!!!!!
Another example, you say? Sure!!!
The last church that I ever went to with my parents, right before I graduated high school was the type that sported flags and instruments and had alot of dancing around(Me and my mom got a great chuckle out of it). They also spoke in "tongues" there which was also useless! Righ before the service was over, a lady stood up to "testify" which should have been fine to do in any church as far as I was concerned at the time. The Pastor of the church told everyone to sit down and be quiet, and when we did, she was the only one left standing, continuing to try and adress the church. The Pastor pointed his finger at her, as if she had stolen something, and said "STOP!!!" and She froze. She was pretty far back behind us, so he basically yelled across the audience, and singled her out. All of the music stopped at that time, everyone sat down, only the pastor and this lady remained standing. It was as if she were in shock. Of course, we thought the Pastor was going to allow her to tell her story, but he ignored her , and began speaking in "tongues". For 1hr and 30 minutes, she stood there, the sermon continued, the dancing and flag bearing continued, offering went by, the choir sang at least 3 songs, and she did not move one muscle. He did not adress her once that entire time, he closed his sermon, and people began to leave. But still, this lady remained standing there, softly sobbing to herself. My mother and I watched her the whole time, and could not understand why she stood there, until the deacons came to take her out. She told them to leave her alone, and they forced her to gather her things and walk out. Outside, she told us," what he did was wrong, a man of god doesn't do that to no one". "I just wanted to tell my story, and that ain't right!!" She, of course was sobbing at the same time, my mom offered her a ciggarett and some comfort, and she accepted it.
The pastor never acknowledged her during that entire time and left her to stand there like a fool!!!! Very strange behavior in a place of worship. Why would you have bouncers carying out an old lady for wanting to testify????? She didn't disrupt anything and she wasn't a mean person, she just wanted to share, and they thwarted it.
I gotta tell ya, that was pretty much it for me, no one should have control over someone like this, if you are supposed to be open and accepting in a house of worship, that is not it!!
I wrote a paper on this incident and all of the other bull that happened for my final assignment in my English Literature class in High School. I got a B-, but it was well earned, in my opinion
Secondly, I just have to ask, are you a licenced professional Psychologist? You seem to have an answer for everything that I write, like you just know everything, I sure hope you won't charge me extra for this post, it ran kind of long....................HA HA HA!!!!!
PS Can you Read Me KNOW????????
I see you grow up in a corrupt church no wonder your so distanced from HIM , srry to hear that.
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Who's the stupid people? People like me who have assured expectation of the realities though not beheld? I don't disagree about what man has accomplished right now, but there's no way man can achieve perfection.
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There's too much power in the universe NO WAY!!!!
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God there is such stupid people in this world with too much time on their hands.
Never take the Lords name in vein, Mrs. I :heart: Jesus!!!!!!!!
Get over it!!!
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Reality Slap!!!!!!! I feel so sorry for you!!! :wave:
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Reality Slap!!!!!!! I feel so sorry for you!!! :wave:
tzs, I can assure you there is no hidden agenda in my denom and hopefully you'll one day consider a study with the same questions and even atitude you have now ^_^. Why not tell some JW's off to their face in a bible study 0_0. If that's going to get you to vent so be it.
@marieelissa: Go a little easy on her, she's been in a hypocritical church for years.
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I grew up in a hypocritical church as well-but that doesn't make me ignorant to reality....
If she can't take this, then she should'nt post in a debate forum. Like i said earlier, if she wants me to take her seriously,
he needs to take her time and think about what she posts, and not write things like "GOD there is such stupid people......" ect.
Otherwise, good times! :heart:
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Even I admit that most Christians will refer to the "law book" instead of quote from it. To sincere people the Bible is that law book. Was your church members involved in politics or nationalism? Did all the money go to the clergy when people "tithed"? Btw my denom doesn't tithe!!!!
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Btw my denom doesn't tithe!!!!
Nice advertisement you squeezed in there. I'm sure that will attract everyone. "Oh yeah!? Well MY church has free-donut sundays!"
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They don't do free donut Sundays!!!!
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Well I do believe so there have been a lot of signs pertaining to this that u can find in the bible
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Well I do believe so there have been a lot of signs pertaining to this that u can find in the bible
True but do to nationalism(religious worship of your country), evilution( physiological scientic to explain creation) and the continuous use of science for umm "amazing" material and even Venus project theories more and more people have fell away.
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evilution( physiological scientic to explain creation)
The fact that you've called it 'EVIL'ution is a perfect sign that you seriously need to educate yourself on the matter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmUGJ3Jh7fc
Do not label something as evil if it has ample proof of it being real and causes no harm other than stopping delusional/ignorant thinking.
and the continuous use of science for umm "amazing" material and even Venus project theories more and more people have fell away.
Attempt to better ourselves and our world? Explain to me why this is a bad thing. Explain to me why we should just stop progression, shut our doors, and stick our faces infront of the bible.
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I'll throw in some Nostradamus.
'Mabus' then will soon die, there will come
Of people and beasts a horrible rout:
Then suddenly one will see vengeance,
Hundred, hand, thirst, hunger when the comet will run.
http://www.nostradamus.org/mabus.php
Everyone was running around saying Barack Hussein Obama=Mabus and that Mabus is the Anti-Christ. It clearly states that Mabus dies though. It's after he dies that everything goes to poop, which supposedly clears the way for the AC to take over with the world in turmoil. This is assuming he wasn't a complete freak show, who lost his mind after losing his family.
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Everyone was running around saying Barack Hussein Obama=Mabus and that Mabus is the Anti-Christ.
And even BEFORE this they were saying this-- OsaMABUSh
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Everyone was running around saying Barack Hussein Obama=Mabus and that Mabus is the Anti-Christ.
And even BEFORE this they were saying this-- OsaMABUSh
Yeah, that's even more of a stretch. I'm trying to remember if Nostradamus said there would be 3 Anti-Christs... The first 2 were Napoleon and Hitler.
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With all the things in the Bible coming to pass, the one thing I am most interested in is the Anti-Christ. I have heard from many people that they believe Obama is the Anti-Christ. Now, I know that almost every president has been said to be the Anti-Christ by some people. Other beliefs say he paves the way for the Anti-Christ. I'm curious to see what others believe.
I think thats a bunch of Baloney
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Everyone was running around saying Barack Hussein Obama=Mabus and that Mabus is the Anti-Christ.
And even BEFORE this they were saying this-- OsaMABUSh
Yeah, that's even more of a stretch. I'm trying to remember if Nostradamus said there would be 3 Anti-Christs... The first 2 were Napoleon and Hitler.
I believe the third one was Richard Simmons after he came out with his first "Sweatin' To The Oldies" workout tape..... 8) ;D
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evilution( physiological scientic to explain creation)
The fact that you've called it 'EVIL'ution is a perfect sign that you seriously need to educate yourself on the matter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmUGJ3Jh7fc
Do not label something as evil if it has ample proof of it being real and causes no harm other than stopping delusional/ignorant thinking.
and the continuous use of science for umm "amazing" material and even Venus project theories more and more people have fell away.
Attempt to better ourselves and our world? Explain to me why this is a bad thing. Explain to me why we should just stop progression, shut our doors, and stick our faces infront of the bible.
I never said you should stop progressing or even try not to progress but leaving out God is the problem.
Philosophy will always be evil I don't care what you do with it.
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Even though there is war famine and our economy is shot i truly do not beleive it is bad enough to beleive antichrist has arrived and i do beleive obama is doing his best to help with what he has to work with,besides we must all take responsibility for our part in the wars of the world,economy and such we are non perfect!
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Even though there is war famine and our economy is shot i truly do not beleive it is bad enough to beleive antichrist has arrived and i do beleive obama is doing his best to help with what he has to work with,besides we must all take responsibility for our part in the wars of the world,economy and such we are non perfect!
AHEM, According to 1 John 2:18 there are many antichrists. According to 1 John 4:3 the anti-christ is already here.
So, the antichrist is a collection of many antichrists and not just one. Seriously did you guys read my post earlier?
1 John 2:22(NWT) reads 22 Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one that denies the Father and the Son.
So the antichrist will be anyone who denies that Jesus is the christ and unique son OF GOD(A.K.A not god but son of god) and also whoever denies the father of christ.
Read the whole entire revelation 17 for good info about this subject.
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Philosophy will always be evil I don't care what you do with it.
You really need to broaden your horizons. Exponentially.
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Everyone was running around saying Barack Hussein Obama=Mabus and that Mabus is the Anti-Christ.
And even BEFORE this they were saying this-- OsaMABUSh
Yeah, that's even more of a stretch. I'm trying to remember if Nostradamus said there would be 3 Anti-Christs... The first 2 were Napoleon and Hitler.
I believe the third one was Richard Simmons after he came out with his first "Sweatin' To The Oldies" workout tape..... 8) ;D
You had to remind me of his existence... I have to share a birthday with that guy. :BangHead:
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You had to remind me of his existence... I have to share a birthday with that guy
Hahahahah!
Btw I'm TOTALLY going to name my kid Mabus just to scare the hell out of people.
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You had to remind me of his existence... I have to share a birthday with that guy
Hahahahah!
Btw I'm TOTALLY going to name my kid Mabus just to scare the hell out of people.
Your kid's therapy bills will be through the roof.
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With all the things in the Bible coming to pass, the one thing I am most interested in is the Anti-Christ. I have heard from many people that they believe Obama is the Anti-Christ. Now, I know that almost every president has been said to be the Anti-Christ by some people. Other beliefs say he paves the way for the Anti-Christ. I'm curious to see what others believe.
i have herd that to but also remember sum pep dont believe in christ
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I believe the AntiChrist has arrived,Who he is remains a mystery.
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It's the government. Everytime you turn around they are wanting more and more from the people. What do they give us in return?
Free country. What a joke! I don't see the govenment giving me anything. What have they given you?
Too worried about what is going on in other countries and don't care about those right here in USA that need help. Watch EXTREME MAKEOVER sometime and you'll see just how some families were forced to live before this TV show came in and rebuild their homes for you.
Hello! Think of all the money we would save if there was no president, vice-president, first lady, and he congressional office. Let each state decide what is best for the people in their area. What may be needed to run one state may not be required in another state.
People do you know how much the above people make while they are in office and what they get when their term is up? Plus are you aware they vote themselves on when and how much of a raise they get and WE THE PEOPLE have no say in it?
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With all the things in the Bible coming to pass, the one thing I am most interested in is the Anti-Christ. I have heard from many people that they believe Obama is the Anti-Christ. Now, I know that almost every president has been said to be the Anti-Christ by some people. Other beliefs say he paves the way for the Anti-Christ. I'm curious to see what others believe.
I felt also for some reason that Obama is decieving the American people. Also we need to stop worshipping
these entertainers because lots of them are devil worshippers and they have hidden meanings in their music
and videos nowadays.
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Your kid's therapy bills will be through the roof.
HAHAHHAHA! How did I miss this!?
Also we need to stop worshipping these entertainers because lots of them are devil worshippers and they have hidden meanings in their music
and videos nowadays.
Well there's hidden meanings in everything. I found out that this old game I played on super nintendo had a boss monster that represented rape. It really is a brilliant concept despite it being scary. It adds a certain "oomph" to the entire thing. But who's specifically a devil worshipper in the media?
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Your kid's therapy bills will be through the roof.
HAHAHHAHA! How did I miss this!?
Also we need to stop worshipping these entertainers because lots of them are devil worshippers and they have hidden meanings in their music
and videos nowadays.
Well there's hidden meanings in everything. I found out that this old game I played on super nintendo had a boss monster that represented rape. It really is a brilliant concept despite it being scary. It adds a certain "oomph" to the entire thing. But who's specifically a devil worshipper in the media?
I had done research on this subject. Beyonce and Jay-z worship the devil. Tom Cruise, Will Smith, and the list goes on. They are apart of illuminati. It's worst now than ever. These people are trying to push for New World Order, a world where people abandon their religious belief of Christ. Scientology is just another way of saying it.
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It's the government. Everytime you turn around they are wanting more and more from the people. What do they give us in return?
Free country. What a joke! I don't see the govenment giving me anything. What have they given you?
Too worried about what is going on in other countries and don't care about those right here in USA that need help. Watch EXTREME MAKEOVER sometime and you'll see just how some families were forced to live before this TV show came in and rebuild their homes for you.
Hello! Think of all the money we would save if there was no president, vice-president, first lady, and he congressional office. Let each state decide what is best for the people in their area. What may be needed to run one state may not be required in another state.
People do you know how much the above people make while they are in office and what they get when their term is up? Plus are you aware they vote themselves on when and how much of a raise they get and WE THE PEOPLE have no say in it?
You are so right! I have been lost faith in the government. It's all such a scheme, Democrat/ republican it's really all the same. They all have the same agenda. They just gas us up and make us believe that we have a choice of politicians, when we don't. The government wants to control us. That's the whole point of this recession. It was all planned to help carry out New World Order. Do your research people.
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No absolutely not. If the anti-Christ is suppose to bring about the apocalypse, then we won't know who it is. So unless we accuse EVERYONE of being the anti-Christ, we won't know who it is because the Bible says we won't know when the apocalypse will come.
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It's the government. Everytime you turn around they are wanting more and more from the people. What do they give us in return?
Free country. What a joke! I don't see the govenment giving me anything. What have they given you?
Too worried about what is going on in other countries and don't care about those right here in USA that need help. Watch EXTREME MAKEOVER sometime and you'll see just how some families were forced to live before this TV show came in and rebuild their homes for you.
Hello! Think of all the money we would save if there was no president, vice-president, first lady, and he congressional office. Let each state decide what is best for the people in their area. What may be needed to run one state may not be required in another state.
People do you know how much the above people make while they are in office and what they get when their term is up? Plus are you aware they vote themselves on when and how much of a raise they get and WE THE PEOPLE have no say in it?
You are so right! I have been lost faith in the government. It's all such a scheme, Democrat/ republican it's really all the same. They all have the same agenda. They just gas us up and make us believe that we have a choice of politicians, when we don't. The government wants to control us. That's the whole point of this recession. It was all planned to help carry out New World Order. Do your research people.
No offense, but this is pretty poor planning on their part if you have it all figured out.
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I may be pissing a lot of people off here but I'd like to point out something...
I saw that some people think it's the entire government. Ok.
Doesn't the bible say that the anti-christ will claim to lead people to God? Doesn't it say it will impress people with works of magic (or as they could be called... MIRACLES?)? Doesn't it say that though the anti-christ will act like it is great it will do things behind closed doors that are awful?
So please don't take offense to this (and sorry in advance if you do) but honestly doesn't some of the papacy and some of the catholic church in general fall under these guidelines?.. the church claims it leads people to God. They perform miracles like "healing people" and stuff.. And as for behind closed doors.. How about all the children that have been molested? Then the people who commit this act are just moved somewhere else? All seems a bit strange to me. I could be wrong but if there is an anti-christ isn't that an honest possibility?
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I think that's a good point, Darklable, and I agree. Seems like the Catholic church is the one that always is the most corrupt, but they may also just be the ones who have the hardest time keepping it under wraps-the other denomonations might have trouble too, but they might be able to hide it better. (I think I still agree that the Catholics have the most stuff (ie the antichrist and the apocalypse) going on in the inside, though)
I also want to add that we aren't SUPPOSED to know when this stuff is going on, so I really think that it's all going to boil down to a matter of what we all believe individually. Affiliation with a certain church or religion isn't going to save anyone. So many churches are so corrupt now that it makes it very hard to tell what's what anymore! I really think that this is what pushes a lot of people away from religion altogether-they see how corrupt these places are from the outside and they see how the individuals act-including bashing each other and their holier-than-thou attitudes and they say they want no part of it. Who's right and who's wrong? No point in debating it because we're not going to change each other's opinions!
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I may be pissing a lot of people off here but I'd like to point out something...
I saw that some people think it's the entire government. Ok.
Doesn't the bible say that the anti-christ will claim to lead people to God? Doesn't it say it will impress people with works of magic (or as they could be called... MIRACLES?)? Doesn't it say that though the anti-christ will act like it is great it will do things behind closed doors that are awful?
So please don't take offense to this (and sorry in advance if you do) but honestly doesn't some of the papacy and some of the catholic church in general fall under these guidelines?.. the church claims it leads people to God. They perform miracles like "healing people" and stuff.. And as for behind closed doors.. How about all the children that have been molested? Then the people who commit this act are just moved somewhere else? All seems a bit strange to me. I could be wrong but if there is an anti-christ isn't that an honest possibility?
I heard something about an unholy trinity. The false prophet that can perform miracles, the anti-christ, and the devil himself. I forget where I saw that. Probably the History Channel. I also think there was supposedly a message from the Virgin Mary saying that a pope would lead his flock to slaughter at the hands of the anti-christ. Now I have to look all this stuff up. lol
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If you compare all the religions and the denominations of all those religions to Babylon's traits you can easily weed out the false practices. The 6 traits of Babylon(false religion) are triad of gods(TRINA), immortality of the soul(life after death), Image worship(idolatry), hellfire(eternal torment), Position of priesthood(huge division between common man and clergy). Practice of astrology, divination, magic, and sorcery.
Quote from fuzzy: I heard something about an unholy trinity. The false prophet that can perform miracles, the anti-christ, and the devil himself. I forget where I saw that. Probably the History Channel. I also think there was supposedly a message from the Virgin Mary saying that a pope would lead his flock to slaughter at the hands of the anti-christ. Now I have to look all this stuff up. lol
AHEM, According to 1 John 2:18 there are many Antichrists. According to 1 John 4:3 the Antichrist is already here.
So, the Antichrist is a collection of many Antichrists and not just one. Seriously did you guys read my post earlier? Who am I kidding of course you didn't read it so i'll just post the scrips in full detail. All scriptures are from NWT unless states otherwise.
1 John 2:18 reads Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as YOU have heard that Antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many Antichrists; from which fact we gain the knowledge that it is the last hour.
1 John 4:3 reads 3 but every inspired expression that does not confess Jesus does not originate with God. Furthermore, this is the Antichrist [inspired expression] which YOU have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world.
1 John 2:22(NWT) reads 22 Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the Antichrist, the one that denies the Father and the Son.
So let's review again, the Antichrist is not one but collectively the Antichrist, the history channel is lying about the Antichrist's position because they don't want to bring reproach upon the government. The Antichrist is also people that doesn't confess or acknowledge that Jesus is the son of god and the anointed of god(christ). All religions and denoms fall under 1 John 2:22 including christendom's because they say Jesus was never anointed or given authority(unknowingly) and thus he never was exalted by YHWH/JHVH/YAHWEH/JEHOVAH/THE LORD/GOD ALMIGHTY/THE FATHER.
As for the unholy trinity thing they where referring to Revelation 16:14
Dragon=Satan
Wild beast= World's political system(U.N.)
False prophet= 2 horned beast that helps promote the wild beast(nationalism)
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Dragon=Satan
Wild beast= World's political system(U.N.)
False prophet= 2 horned beast that helps promote the wild beast(nationalism)
I quoted this at the bottom of Teflons post just so people will hopefully read this first and not his whole random interpretation of something that does not exist. A dragon, people! A dragon!
the history channel is lying about the Antichrist's position because they don't want to bring reproach upon the government
Yes. The same network that is constantly bashing the government because they're withholding evidence of aliens. I'm sure we can take them seriously with that criteria under their belt. Maybe they're just smart and don't want to mix religion with politics too much? Maybe they do it because they acknowledge there's more than 1 religion out there and don't want to shine one brighter than the other-- you know? To be respectful? I've seen them pull that stuff before. That seems ridiculously more plausable than your conspiracy theory. Think before you type.
The Antichrist is also people that doesn't confess or acknowledge that Jesus is the son of god and the anointed of god(christ).
So pretty much everyone that does not think the exact way you do. Typical narrow-mindedness.
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Dragon=Satan
Wild beast= World's political system(U.N.)
False prophet= 2 horned beast that helps promote the wild beast(nationalism)
I quoted this at the bottom of Teflons post just so people will hopefully read this first and not his whole random interpretation of something that does not exist. A dragon, people! A dragon!
the history channel is lying about the Antichrist's position because they don't want to bring reproach upon the government
Yes. The same network that is constantly bashing the government because they're withholding evidence of aliens. I'm sure we can take them seriously with that criteria under their belt. Maybe they're just smart and don't want to mix religion with politics too much? Maybe they do it because they acknowledge there's more than 1 religion out there and don't want to shine one brighter than the other-- you know? To be respectful? I've seen them pull that stuff before. That seems ridiculously more plausable than your conspiracy theory. Think before you type.
The Antichrist is also people that doesn't confess or acknowledge that Jesus is the son of god and the anointed of god(christ).
So pretty much everyone that does not think the exact way you do. Typical narrow-mindedness.
1. Commonsense would tell you it's not literal, even I know dragons don't spit out frogs and water etc. I feel sorry for you since you think Jesus is a liar by saying the Devil never existed.
2. Alien conspiracy is ridiculed and not accepted so it doesn't matter as much as biblical prophecy which is more accepted.
3. Wrong not the way I think or even what my denom thinks the word Christ means anointed and the term son of god is applied to angels(job 1:6) and humans who have an angelic calling(first resurrection). Again if Jesus was never exalted(anointed) by his father and always had equal power to the father then he's not the Christ because he was NEVER giving power.
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I think that's a good point, Darklable, and I agree. Seems like the Catholic church is the one that always is the most corrupt, but they may also just be the ones who have the hardest time keepping it under wraps-the other denomonations might have trouble too, but they might be able to hide it better. (I think I still agree that the Catholics have the most stuff (ie the antichrist and the apocalypse) going on in the inside, though)
I also want to add that we aren't SUPPOSED to know when this stuff is going on, so I really think that it's all going to boil down to a matter of what we all believe individually. Affiliation with a certain church or religion isn't going to save anyone. So many churches are so corrupt now that it makes it very hard to tell what's what anymore! I really think that this is what pushes a lot of people away from religion altogether-they see how corrupt these places are from the outside and they see how the individuals act-including bashing each other and their holier-than-thou attitudes and they say they want no part of it. Who's right and who's wrong? No point in debating it because we're not going to change each other's opinions!
Good point. Having not read the entire thread yet, I haven't seen mention of the prophecy that the antiChrist will come AFTER the temple is rebuit in Israel.
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Commonsense would tell you it's not literal, even I know dragons don't spit out frogs and water etc
Well I must apologize then...but with your history, I thought differently.
I feel sorry for you since you think Jesus is a liar by saying the Devil never existed.
Can you prove he exists without Nostradamus-type reasonings from your aged man-made book talking of a dragon and wild beasts? I need supernatural evidence. If not, it's more obvious that you're being fooled.
Alien conspiracy is ridiculed and not accepted so it doesn't matter as much as biblical prophecy which is more accepted.
Oh it's definately more accepted, but biblical prophecy isn't ridiculed? This coming from a man whose church has a long history of failing to predict things?
Wrong not the way I think or even what my denom thinks the word Christ means anointed and the term son of god is applied to angels(job 1:6) and humans who have an angelic calling(first resurrection). Again if Jesus was never exalted(anointed) by his father and always had equal power to the father then he's not the Christ because he was NEVER giving power.
Because you think you have all the answers down to the technicalities, nobody really cares. Keep your head in the sand and your eyes magnified on the bible and keep forgetting how you look in the eyes of everyone else that have different beliefs. Others will deal with reality and hopefully as a whole we can get passed these silly myths that preach looking forward to the end.
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People care you just don't care. There's still several billion people that do care although there knowledge really isn't accurate. Although I don't do spiritism it's not hard to youtube demonic events and watch them, obviously malevolent spirits are doing that and not benevolent ones. Ouija board crap and other spiritism helps proof malevolent spirits as well.
Just cause the bible talks about mythical creatures(that you obviously misinterpret) and miraculous things happen beyond your understanding doesn't mean it's not worth following especially if you believe Jesus never lied.
@quote: Oh it's definitely more accepted, but biblical prophecy isn't ridiculed? This coming from a man whose church has a long history of failing to predict things?
Yeah your right it's ridiculed but it is accepted, the alien conspiracy just proves that early man was just as advanced if not more advanced then we are today :-D Everytime you say "failed prophecy" i'll just say venerate babylon's teachings the least just to get you more upset and have you rant about who cares :-D
@quote: because you think you have all the answers down to the technicalities, nobody really cares. Keep your head in the sand and your eyes magnified on the bible and keep forgetting how you look in the eyes of everyone else. Others will deal with reality and hopefully as a whole we can get passed these silly myths that preach looking forward to the end.
I honestly don't care how I look in the eyes of everyone else but I do try to see how they look at the bible and what it says and other holy books and religion. What you call real is thinking that this technology which according to alien conspiracy already existed in early cultures :-D is going to be able to cause long lasting peace and paradise on this earth. Yeah the paradise will last just as long as a cult plain. I know about the zeitgeist paradise plans etc.
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People care you just don't care. There's still several billion people that do care although there knowledge really isn't accurate. Although I don't do spiritism it's not hard to youtube demonic events and watch them, obviously malevolent spirits are doing that and not benevolent ones. Ouija board crap and other spiritism helps proof malevolent spirits as well.
Let me be more indepth then-- people don't care about all the technicalities you keep bringing up. You keep adding and adding bible verses thinking it's helping your argument when you aren't even looking at the foundation of what you're preaching-- general mythology. Now that you're bringing up spiritism and your belief that there is actually a devil destroys any rational argument you could make. You're using delusional toys as a way to strengthen what you're saying...c'mon... Have you ever tried a ouija board? It's on par with looking in a mirror and saying "*bleep* Mary" 3 times. It's childish. You're using that as a target.
Just cause the bible talks about mythical creatures(that you obviously misinterpret) and miraculous things happen beyond your understanding doesn't mean it's not worth following
With this reasoning...let's pretend Jack and the Beanstalk fit into the bible. You wouldn't question it but actually implore the belief in it even though there's no evidence and it's full of crazy happenings? Relate this to parting a sea, walking on water, magic healing powers, talking snake, dirt man, rib woman, etc. and tell me what you think. I understand your faith does not allow much for it, but I'd like for you to step out of your bubble and hear your explanation in your own words.
the alien conspiracy just proves that early man was just as advanced if not more advanced then we are today
(http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Science/images-2/hubble-space-telescope.jpg)
(http://atomikaztex.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/hadron-collider.jpg)
Everytime you say "failed prophecy" i'll just say venerate babylon's teachings the least just to get you more upset and have you rant about who cares :-D
Upset? Your church has a history of failing in this manner. Your beliefs speak for themselves in this forum. It's not upsetting. I'm glad for anyone who reads your or my posts.
I honestly don't care how I look in the eyes of everyone else but I do try to see how they look at the bible and what it says and other holy books and religion. What you call real is thinking that this technology which according to alien conspiracy already existed in early cultures :-D is going to be able to cause long lasting peace and paradise on this earth. Yeah the paradise will last just as long as a cult plain.
No more with the alien thing...what are you talking about? Again, you've twisted my words to mean something else. It was just an example about the history channel 'covering up' things. They don't. They usually spell the object of interest out decently but they do choose a side out of respect. I saw a documentary on hell and half way through they proved it didn't exist. And then at the end they played the "who knows!? It might exist!" card. Anyways, you should care what others think when it pertains to beliefs that are public and preached. I hope I don't need to explain why.
I know about the zeitgeist paradise plans etc
What are you talking about?
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Falconer,
The Zeitgeist Movement/Organization was established to aid the transition from a monetary based economy to a resource-based economy. They want us to do away with all monetary forms and instead, trade resources. They also want all jobs to be automated so that no humans are required to do repetitive tasks. All information would be gathered and stored by 'Artificial Intelligence' because humans only use a portion of their brains and we 'forget things'. There would be no ownership of properties, but would instead be one of universal access, all would have the same rights to any properties anywhere in the world. There is much more to the movement, I can't possibly put it all down here. It is, IMHO, something that sounds like the founders were into too much LSD and ate way too many 'rooms. 8)
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Falconer,
The Zeitgeist Movement/Organization was established to aid the transition from a monetary based economy to a resource-based economy. They want us to do away with all monetary forms and instead, trade resources. They also want all jobs to be automated so that no humans are required to do repetitive tasks. All information would be gathered and stored by 'Artificial Intelligence' because humans only use a portion of their brains and we 'forget things'. There would be no ownership of properties, but would instead be one of universal access, all would have the same rights to any properties anywhere in the world. There is much more to the movement, I can't possibly put it all down here. It is, IMHO, something that sounds like the founders were into too much LSD and ate way too many 'rooms. Cool
Thanks, JD. I did not know that! It sounds like Star Trek mixed with The Matrix. Cool. And more plausable than what a lot of christians want for anyone who does not believe what they believe...
(http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/images/files/000/00/6/911.jpg) (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/29/52108134_faa5c64b74.jpg)
(notice Will Smith in the lower right of the 1st picture! WOAH!)
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You're welcome, Falconer! I am a bottomless pit of useless trivia, but it does come in handy at times. ;) Kinda creepy cause that does look like Will Smith, eh?! :confused1:
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Anti-Christ was Nero...arrived centuries ago.....
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I am a bottomless pit of useless trivia, but it does come in handy at times.
I would not call that information useless at all.
Anti-Christ was Nero...arrived centuries ago.....
Tell us more about this! Briefly if you wish.
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It's a mans number and you need to take it to buy or sell...If the social security number ever got marked on your forehead or hand or even a barcode or simply 666 then something is happening.
What is "a man's number"? Take it to buy or sell what? "Social security number getting marked on a forehead"....what the hell are you even talking about?!
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It's a mans number and you need to take it to buy or sell...If the social security number ever got marked on your forehead or hand or even a barcode or simply 666 then something is happening.
What is "a man's number"? Take it to buy or sell what? "Social security number getting marked on a forehead"....what the hell are you even talking about?!
The story goes that the anti-christ will make people bear his mark and no one will be able to buy or sell anything without said mark. Some people think it's social security numbers, some people think it will be microchips implanted in us, etc. Right now my personal anti-christ is the cable company. I hate them, I hate them, I hate them!!!!!!!
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The story goes that the anti-christ will make people bear his mark and no one will be able to buy or sell anything without said mark. Some people think it's social security numbers, some people think it will be microchips implanted in us, etc. Right now my personal anti-christ is the cable company. I hate them, I hate them, I hate them!!!!!!!
HA! But as far as the marks go...haven't they been doing mark-systems throughout history? Papers, tattoos, wristbands, haircuts/styles, other custom materials, etc. They just seem more complex today because they involve more numbers.
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PEOPLE ARE OUT OF THEIR MINDS
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I believe that the AntiChrist DEFINATELY has arrived, and his name is Barrack Hussain Obama.
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I believe that the AntiChrist DEFINATELY has arrived, and his name is Barrack Hussain Obama.
(http://nicedeb.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/wh-double-facepalm.jpg)
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The story goes that the anti-christ will make people bear his mark and no one will be able to buy or sell anything without said mark. Some people think it's social security numbers, some people think it will be microchips implanted in us, etc. Right now my personal anti-christ is the cable company. I hate them, I hate them, I hate them!!!!!!!
HA! But as far as the marks go...haven't they been doing mark-systems throughout history? Papers, tattoos, wristbands, haircuts/styles, other custom materials, etc. They just seem more complex today because they involve more numbers.
Yep. There also has always been war, disease, famine, natural disasters, and death. Yet it is said that these will be signs of the end times. :dontknow:
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I believe that the AntiChrist DEFINATELY has arrived, and his name is Barrack Hussain Obama.
If you're going to insult the man, can you at least spell his name right? Barack Hussein Obama.
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lol no I don't think what you're talking about is true.
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It's a mans number and you need to take it to buy or sell...If the social security number ever got marked on your forehead or hand or even a barcode or simply 666 then something is happening.
What is "a man's number"? Take it to buy or sell what? "Social security number getting marked on a forehead"....what the hell are you even talking about?!
LMAO!!! This is totally what I was just thinking about this post too, but I just didn't want to get into it ;) You read my mind! :icon_rr:
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I'm asking this honestly-Do you guys really think it's going to be THAT obvious? That people are walking around with numbers tattooed on their foreheads? I mean, isn't the AntiChrist supposed to be more of a test to us all? He/she is supposed to lead us the wrong way under false pretenses. I just can't see that it would be such an obvious test. I think that the book of Revelations is more a book of imagery, don't you think? The whole Bible is filled with imagery to make points-a very good tactic, if you ask me because it really gets its point across. Why wouldn't the final book follow suit and go with the flow of the rest with the likening of items and stories about them to other things that will have an impact on our lives? Maybe the test will be easy-it just makes me wonder because wouldn't it be nice to know that your final exam is a snap? :)
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yes, his name is Glenn Beck.
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yes the anti Christ has arrived and i am him
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NUH-UH! IT'S ME!!! ME ME ME!!!!
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The spirit of the anti-christ is in the world, however, the actual person has not yet been revealed to the world.