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Title: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: MARYIA31 on March 26, 2010, 01:38:42 pm
so i recently heard that E-Harmony was  being sued for not allowing their customers to choose a same sex search.. How does everyone feel about this> Voice your opinion :bunny:
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: amyrouse on March 30, 2010, 06:57:46 pm
Being sued?  Well, as of now there isn't any distinct discrimination clause about sexuality.  I believe it is wrong, and that everyone should be allowed to look for a mate regardless of gender (or gender identity) but...

I'm sure, though, that the person suing has an excellent attorney with the ACLU.   ;)

Speaking about same sex marriage in general...I believe that marriage is a religious term, and should not be a legal term.  Should a church allow a marriage and a clergyperson perform a ceremony in concordance with the rules of the religion, then I don't understand why it shouldn't be recognized just the same as any other union between two people committing their lives to one another.  It wasn't forty years ago that many places in this country didn't recognize unions between two different races.  Where is the difference?  Its religious, and, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't freedom of religion outlined in the bill of rights?
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: wildinero on March 30, 2010, 07:28:14 pm
so i recently heard that E-Harmony was  being sued for not allowing their customers to choose a same sex search.. How does everyone feel about this> Voice your opinion :bunny:
is so crazy
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: Falconer02 on March 31, 2010, 04:30:54 pm
Same sex marriage is abnormal when put up against the amount of heterosexual marriages. Other than that, it's alright. I used to think it was bad but after studying it and hearing the majority of the arguments against gays...they're all very fallible. As long as they keep it to themselves (just as heteros should too) I don't think it would be such a humongous issue.

As far as E-Harmony goes, I have a coworker who said they went through it at found it to be very christian-oriented. I assume this is the case why the option wasn't there. Unless someone else can confirm, don't quote me on this. But I'm very curious as to how this is going to go down.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: Stealth3si on March 31, 2010, 07:20:50 pm
so i recently heard that E-Harmony was  being sued for not allowing their customers to choose a same sex search.. How does everyone feel about this> Voice your opinion :bunny:
Go to another dating site that allows this.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: queenofnines on April 01, 2010, 08:24:27 am
I believe that marriage is a religious term, and should not be a legal term.

Watch this video (2:02): Religion doesn't own marriage (and it never did) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNE616aUx7c&playnext_from=TL&videos=_RBAl-csz-Y

What is interesting in my young lifetime is that I am witnessing the same sort of segregation that happened just a few decades ago (back then it was black people who were "unnatural" and "unworthy").  Gays WILL be allowed to marry across the United States, definitely in my lifetime, it's only a matter of time before the government admits they are pulling the same sh*t that they did with the blacks.  So all you homophobes get ready because it IS going to happen, probably within the next 10-15 years, if not much sooner.  It IS going to happen because it is a matter of denying basic human rights to a people group, and that is never right.

Resources:
- It's OK to be gay, dude (arguments against homosexuality being "unnatural", "a choice", etc.) 7:55 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm3cWytGAqw&playnext_from=TL&videos=UfMjqxdxnEU
- Gay on Valentine's Day ? (poem saying what the Bible says) 3:39 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoEZ80C0H8k&playnext_from=TL&videos=RIvW1H1Lej0
- Betty Bowers Explains Traditional Marriage to Everyone Else (what the Bible says about marriage) 4:14 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw&playnext_from=TL&videos=Yajw2MEOrLo
- Reply to a homophobe's censorship - Take a stand ! (follow-up on why it's okay to be gay) 6:37 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8GcgmtriEw&playnext_from=TL&videos=wk-sXNS0T2k

Educate yourself!  Think!
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: queenofnines on April 01, 2010, 10:37:31 am
I really don't care if gay people marry but I still think it is weird but that is because I am straight. It isn't normal or the way it *should* be since you can't make babies with the same sex and that is the whole reason we have life to begin with is *sex*

You can think something is "weird", but that doesn't mean people shouldn't have the right to do it.  It IS normal because it's not something a person chooses in most cases and is found throughout nature.

As for your argument for babies...we are NOT in danger of extinction, here.  Quite the opposite.  We actually need a lot more people to not want kids/be infertile because it is brainwashed/expected for everyone to have kids and that will for sure take its toll on the world - it already has.
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Post by: Falconer02 on April 01, 2010, 03:18:12 pm
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We actually need a lot more people to not want kids/be infertile because it is brainwashed/expected for everyone to have kids and that will for sure take its toll on the world - it already has.

And guess what's at partial fault for that???  :angel11:
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: Airiza on April 01, 2010, 03:26:02 pm
I disagree with same sex marriage.
For one, it goes against the Biblical view in which God says that no man shall lay with another man.
But I guess if you don't believe in the Bible, that's not much of an argument. But still, that's why I personally don't agree with it.

I just also think it's biologically wrong. I mean...Men and woman were given the opposite parts of each other, but they complement each other. Man and man and woman and woman don't have that compatibility. I think it's twisted and messed up.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: queenofnines on April 01, 2010, 05:00:58 pm
I am sure you have children 3 or 4 of them.

Uh, no.  I am married and childless by choice.  My position is kind of like the gays (discriminated against) in that society doesn't think a couple should be married if they don't intend on having kids.  I am a failure as a woman, now, aren't I?

I've joked with my husband that we should start a clan of "atheist Duggars".  I doubt that would be supported by America to get a t.v. show to pay for all of them, though...  :'(
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: Falconer02 on April 01, 2010, 07:48:01 pm
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Uh, no.  I am married and childless by choice.  My position is kind of like the gays (discriminated against) in that society doesn't think a couple should be married if they don't intend on having kids.

A unique example. Very cool.

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I am a failure as a woman, now, aren't I?

Over not having kids? Nah. I'd say it depends more on how long you're working in the kitchen all day OHHHHHHHHH I WENT THERE OHHHHHHHHH

Please don't hurt me

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I just also think it's biologically wrong. I mean...Men and woman were given the opposite parts of each other, but they complement each other. Man and man and woman and woman don't have that compatibility. I think it's twisted and messed up.

Biology - the science of life or living matter in all its forms and phenomena, esp. with reference to origin, growth, reproduction, structure, and behavior.

You need to do a lot more research on this subject before coming to this scientific conclusion of why it's wrong. "If the parts don't fit" is an outdated argument. You're only referring to a *bleep* and vagina and forgetting about other methods that could take place in the act. If it wasn't compatible in one way or another, they wouldn't do it.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: queenofnines on April 02, 2010, 07:33:42 am
Over not having kids? Nah. I'd say it depends more on how long you're working in the kitchen all day OHHHHHHHHH I WENT THERE OHHHHHHHHH

lol

I state "failure as a woman" sarcastically because I of course don't think so.  But let me give you an example.  The past two times I've gone to the doctor for birth control pills - in separate states, I might add - I had both of the woman doctors I saw ask if they could write me a prescription for prenatal vitamins, completely out of the blue.  First of all, it should be pretty obvious that if I'm there to get THE PILL I don't intend on getting pregnant anytime soon.  When I say I don't want kids, both of them matter-of-factly said, "Oh, you will."  Which I don't appreciate because they acted like there was a 100% certainty of this just because I am a female.  grr...

You're only referring to a *bleep* and vagina and forgetting about other methods that could take place in the act. If it wasn't compatible in one way or another, they wouldn't do it.

Heh, that'll get 'em thinking...
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: lucky382001 on April 02, 2010, 08:48:20 am
homophobe is just another label people...please!
And not a very respectful one at that for people who want others to have respect for their opinions...

We all are people first.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: AmyTrivitt on April 02, 2010, 09:04:51 pm
Funny allot of the users on here are Christians or so they claim to be. What is one of the statments in the bible. I personally do not believe in the bible nor follow the bible but I do think its wrong for same sex marriages. What next you can marry an animal? If a dating site does not want to let same sex people hook up that's their right!! I think people should quite throwing up suing people just because they do not get their ways. Come on!!!
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: queenofnines on April 03, 2010, 06:49:12 am
What next you can marry an animal?

That is extremely incorrect and ignorant.  Marrying an animal does not allow for consent on the animal's part.  Same thing with marrying a child.  Gay couples, multiple spouses, and family members are all capable of CONSENT if they are adults in a free country, and should therefore be allowed to marry.

Now I know someone is going to freak out on the family member thing more so than gay marriage.  Be aware that it is 100% legal to marry your first cousin in many U.S. states already!  The only "problem" I can see with it is that same-family couples have a higher likelihood of having a child with birth defects.  But in their defense, so do all of these women who are trying to get pregnant at 40.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: Falconer02 on April 03, 2010, 11:13:07 am
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I personally do not believe in the bible nor follow the bible but I do think its wrong for same sex marriages. What next you can marry an animal?

...what?

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If a dating site does not want to let same sex people hook up that's their right!!

No it's not. It's discrimination. "If golf courses don't want blacks and jews on their courses, that's their right!"
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Post by: madeara on April 04, 2010, 09:07:17 am
I am opposed to same-sex marriage.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: Falconer02 on April 04, 2010, 10:11:40 am
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I think she is saying that she is not taking a religious standpoint in why she feels same sex marriage is wrong but just that she feels it is wrong.

I know this. And as unique as it is, it does not really make any sense.

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But it is like saying "what next, we can marry corpses?"

It's like saying "African Americans can't sit in the front of the bus! What's next? Fish sitting up front!?" A very disorganized example.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: Peds on April 04, 2010, 10:38:29 am
I think homosexuals have a right to be able to get married. The only argument people have against gay marriage is that "it's against the bible". This is why that is a bad argument: the bible was written by man, not God. And the men who wrote the bible wanted people to reproduce so their religion would grow and become more powerful than other religions. They added that no man shall lay with another man thinking that they could force homosexuals to lay with the opposite sex and reproduce for their cause. That's the reason the bible is against homosexuality; for power through population. What do you think the crusades were?

Nowadays the world surely doesn't need a larger population. The earth is actually overpopulated and that is one of the major causes of our damaged environment, poverty, slums, hunger, disease, and such throughout the world.  So I say shame on Octomom and people who reproduce in mass amounts. Praise to the homosexuals and couples with two or less children.

There is nothing wrong with homosexuality and here's a question for those who blindly follow the word of the bible: if the bible is against homosexuality why did God create homosexuals. And if you believe homosexuality is a choice why did God give them the ability to choose?

Think about that and when you're done thinking, here is the answer:

The bible was written by man, not God.  The people who wrote the bible don't know any more about the will of God than you do. So stop blindly following the written words of another man and follow your own beliefs. Interperate the will of God for yourself. Think freely.

PS I take no stance on the existance of God. If you believe in God interperate His will for yourself. If you donnot believe in God then likewise donnot blindly follow the will of another man, agree with other people's morals only if YOU agree with them not just because OTHER people agree. Think freely.
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Post by: queenofnines on April 04, 2010, 01:37:40 pm
So I say shame on Octomom and people who reproduce in mass amounts. Praise to the homosexuals and couples with two or less children.

I completely agree. 

Have you heard of the Duggars, the Christian family with 19 kids and counting?  So, so appalling.  They claim: "Oh, we'll have as many kids as god allows us" - uh, no, it's a fact that any woman who is on zero birth control, having regular sex, and is healthy WILL get pregnant many times over!!

The sad thing is, one of "the guilt trips" for abortion is to give the child a "chance" and put it up for adoption...but I think it is pretty obvious that adoption is A LAST RESORT for couples wanting to have children (meaning many will spend their childhoods in several foster homes).  A couple will spend $20,000 on IVF treatments and end up with triplets before they'll "settle" on someone else's kid.  And then couples like gays who naturally cannot have children aren't allowed to adopt.  WTF?!
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: consuelawms on April 04, 2010, 06:25:33 pm
I mean its not what Gods would want but people shuould be allowed to make their own  life changing decisions. :)
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: bschumacher on April 04, 2010, 09:06:36 pm
My husband and I believe that same-sex couples are entitled to the same happiness we have.
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Post by: acawap on April 04, 2010, 10:38:49 pm
I don't know about same sex marriage, but I'm pretty dang sure opposite sex marriage is a bad idea. ;D
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: jylianhunt on April 05, 2010, 04:56:06 pm
same sex marriage is completley fine. no one should hold anything agasint that. love is love no matter who you are.
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Post by: apples45 on April 05, 2010, 05:08:32 pm
First off I must say that I was raised with traditional beliefs and I haven't been exposed to a lot of gay people but I think that people are people, and its not my place to say whats ok for someone else. besides if a gay person wants to get married let them. it has no real bearing on my life, and preventing a person from doing something is just another form of discrimination, and discrimination in any form is wrong.

So ultimately I think we should allow people to do what makes them happy as long as its between consenting adults, and not hurting anyone, who am I to say someone can't get married so it dosent matter to me, besides its only a matter of time before its legal anyway. :peace:
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Post by: Peds on April 06, 2010, 07:57:51 pm
if a gay person wants to get married let them. it has no real bearing on my life, and preventing a person from doing something is just another form of discrimination, and discrimination in any form is wrong.

Thank you  :notworthy: seriously nobody gets hurt if two homosexuals get married so why would anybody want to prevent it?  We are in the 21st century discrimination should be a think of the past.  I mean there's no reason behind it; all discrimination does is hurt people.  So why do people still discriminate?
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Post by: gadzuux on April 08, 2010, 06:56:25 pm
I am not for same sex marriage, but at the same time, why is it up to the government to decide. If marriage is a religious institution, shouldn't it be up to the religion to decide whether to allow or dis-allow same sex marriage. Marriage should be just simply that to the government, marriage under the confines of the religions definition.
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Post by: queenofnines on April 09, 2010, 08:58:59 am
I am not for same sex marriage, but at the same time, why is it up to the government to decide. If marriage is a religious institution, shouldn't it be up to the religion to decide whether to allow or dis-allow same sex marriage. Marriage should be just simply that to the government, marriage under the confines of the religions definition.

Which religion's definition?? 

What about atheists?

So, by your poor logic and judgment, let's not only discriminate against gays, but people who don't believe in god, too.  On 02/29/08, my husband and I did something illegal by getting married...oh no wait, we didn't, because religion doesn't OWN marriage, sorry!

I'd like someone to tell YOU that you're not allowed to commit to the person you love and see how you feel.
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Post by: Falconer02 on April 10, 2010, 09:25:57 am
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Same sex marriage: It don't bother me, I don't care. I will be honest though, it would be hard not to point and laugh.

This makes no sense. As usual. Let's just remember...nothing is easier than pointing and laughing at your posts. Yeesh. Come on, now. Be nice to people who deserve it.
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Post by: Peds on April 11, 2010, 02:08:46 pm
I agree with queenofnines' point.  Why should churches be allowed to discriminate against homosexuals or anyone else for that matter?  It's illegal for businesses to not offer services to someone because of their race, creed, or sexual orientation.

We're in the modern era, intolerance is a worthless tradition of the past.  Speaking of the past, the Bible was written long ago when intolerance was the norm.  The writers of the Bible added these messages of discrimination and intolerance because they saw nothing wrong with it, it was part of their values. 

I'm not saying that the Bible is only a tool for rationalizing prejudice thoughts.  There are good lessons in the Bible but the Bible was written by Man and Man has flaws.  Don't follow blindly follow the written words of another man, you where given free thought for a reason.
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Post by: SmartAznBoi on April 12, 2010, 02:19:54 pm
Being sued?  Well, as of now there isn't any distinct discrimination clause about sexuality.  I believe it is wrong, and that everyone should be allowed to look for a mate regardless of gender (or gender identity) but...  I'm sure, though, that the person suing has an excellent attorney with the ACLU.   Wink  Speaking about same sex marriage in general...I believe that marriage is a religious term, and should not be a legal term.  Should a church allow a marriage and a clergyperson perform a ceremony in concordance with the rules of the religion, then I don't understand why it shouldn't be recognized just the same as any other union between two people committing their lives to one another.  It wasn't forty years ago that many places in this country didn't recognize unions between two different races.  Where is the difference?  Its religious, and, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't freedom of religion outlined in the bill of rights?

Watch this video (2:02): Religion doesn't own marriage (and it never did) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNE616aUx7c&playnext_from=TL&videos=_RBAl-csz-Y

What is interesting in my young lifetime is that I am witnessing the same sort of segregation that happened just a few decades ago (back then it was black people who were "unnatural" and "unworthy").  Gays WILL be allowed to marry across the United States, definitely in my lifetime, it's only a matter of time before the government admits they are pulling the same sh*t that they did with the blacks.  So all you homophobes get ready because it IS going to happen, probably within the next 10-15 years, if not much sooner.  It IS going to happen because it is a matter of denying basic human rights to a people group, and that is never right.

Resources:
- It's OK to be gay, dude (arguments against homosexuality being "unnatural", "a choice", etc.) 7:55 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm3cWytGAqw&playnext_from=TL&videos=UfMjqxdxnEU
- Gay on Valentine's Day ? (poem saying what the Bible says) 3:39 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoEZ80C0H8k&playnext_from=TL&videos=RIvW1H1Lej0
- Betty Bowers Explains Traditional Marriage to Everyone Else (what the Bible says about marriage) 4:14 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw&playnext_from=TL&videos=Yajw2MEOrLo
- Reply to a homophobe's censorship - Take a stand ! (follow-up on why it's okay to be gay) 6:37 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8GcgmtriEw&playnext_from=TL&videos=wk-sXNS0T2k

Educate yourself!  Think!
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Post by: Falconer02 on April 12, 2010, 03:21:17 pm
SmtAznBoi is indeed a Smart Asian Boy. Jolly good show!
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Post by: kenifermarie on April 12, 2010, 06:29:38 pm
i think you you should do what makes happy
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: queenofnines on April 12, 2010, 06:52:13 pm
Being sued?  Well, as of now there isn't any distinct discrimination clause about sexuality.  I believe it is wrong, and that everyone should be allowed to look for a mate regardless of gender (or gender identity) but...  I'm sure, though, that the person suing has an excellent attorney with the ACLU.   Wink  Speaking about same sex marriage in general...I believe that marriage is a religious term, and should not be a legal term.  Should a church allow a marriage and a clergyperson perform a ceremony in concordance with the rules of the religion, then I don't understand why it shouldn't be recognized just the same as any other union between two people committing their lives to one another.  It wasn't forty years ago that many places in this country didn't recognize unions between two different races.  Where is the difference?  Its religious, and, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't freedom of religion outlined in the bill of rights?

Watch this video (2:02): Religion doesn't own marriage (and it never did) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNE616aUx7c&playnext_from=TL&videos=_RBAl-csz-Y

What is interesting in my young lifetime is that I am witnessing the same sort of segregation that happened just a few decades ago (back then it was black people who were "unnatural" and "unworthy").  Gays WILL be allowed to marry across the United States, definitely in my lifetime, it's only a matter of time before the government admits they are pulling the same sh*t that they did with the blacks.  So all you homophobes get ready because it IS going to happen, probably within the next 10-15 years, if not much sooner.  It IS going to happen because it is a matter of denying basic human rights to a people group, and that is never right.

Resources:
- It's OK to be gay, dude (arguments against homosexuality being "unnatural", "a choice", etc.) 7:55 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm3cWytGAqw&playnext_from=TL&videos=UfMjqxdxnEU
- Gay on Valentine's Day ? (poem saying what the Bible says) 3:39 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoEZ80C0H8k&playnext_from=TL&videos=RIvW1H1Lej0
- Betty Bowers Explains Traditional Marriage to Everyone Else (what the Bible says about marriage) 4:14 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFkeKKszXTw&playnext_from=TL&videos=Yajw2MEOrLo
- Reply to a homophobe's censorship - Take a stand ! (follow-up on why it's okay to be gay) 6:37 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8GcgmtriEw&playnext_from=TL&videos=wk-sXNS0T2k

Educate yourself!  Think!

Uh, thanks for copy-pasting part of my post (all the YouTube videos and associated sentences).  Was this intentional?
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Post by: hemapreethaa on April 12, 2010, 06:56:02 pm
naaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh....................
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Post by: Falconer02 on April 12, 2010, 10:55:21 pm
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Uh, thanks for copy-pasting part of my post (all the YouTube videos and associated sentences).  Was this intentional?

Hahaha he did that!? Wow I didn't even see that! Well atleast it's bringing it to the front, right?
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Post by: queenofnines on April 13, 2010, 08:32:05 am
Hahaha he did that!? Wow I didn't even see that! Well atleast it's bringing it to the front, right?

Yeah, it might have been an accident...you know how proficient people are with their BB Code quotes around here.  ;)  Good to have them posted again, yes!
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Post by: FuzzyCottonsocks on April 14, 2010, 05:20:18 am
What next you can marry an animal?

Really?  Marrying an animal is the same as 2 consenting, human adults getting married?  Sorry, but I don't think a horse or a goat can say "I do." Not that it matters apparently, as some guy in Korea married his pillow.  In any case, E-Harmony sucks and so gays are not missing out on anything.
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Post by: wildinero on April 14, 2010, 08:04:44 am
so i recently heard that E-Harmony was  being sued for not allowing their customers to choose a same sex search.. How does everyone feel about this> Voice your opinion :bunny:
i feel that everything is changing now,is a different world now
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Post by: Stealth3si on April 29, 2010, 08:46:03 pm
I think homosexuals have a right to be able to get married. The only argument people have against gay marriage is that "it's against the bible". This is why that is a bad argument: the bible was written by man, not God. And the men who wrote the bible wanted people to reproduce so their religion would grow and become more powerful than other religions. They added that no man shall lay with another man thinking that they could force homosexuals to lay with the opposite sex and reproduce for their cause. That's the reason the bible is against homosexuality; for power through population. What do you think the crusades were?

Nowadays the world surely doesn't need a larger population. The earth is actually overpopulated and that is one of the major causes of our damaged environment, poverty, slums, hunger, disease, and such throughout the world.  So I say shame on Octomom and people who reproduce in mass amounts. Praise to the homosexuals and couples with two or less children.

There is nothing wrong with homosexuality and here's a question for those who blindly follow the word of the bible: if the bible is against homosexuality why did God create homosexuals. And if you believe homosexuality is a choice why did God give them the ability to choose?

Think about that and when you're done thinking, here is the answer:

The bible was written by man, not God.  The people who wrote the bible don't know any more about the will of God than you do. So stop blindly following the written words of another man and follow your own beliefs. Interperate the will of God for yourself. Think freely.

PS I take no stance on the existance of God. If you believe in God interperate His will for yourself. If you donnot believe in God then likewise donnot blindly follow the will of another man, agree with other people's morals only if YOU agree with them not just because OTHER people agree. Think freely.
It's hard to take any argument seriously when it begins with blanket statements about the bible that it's not even worth reading the rest of the post.  :bs:

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The bible was written by man, not God.
Ah! But here is the impasse. You live in a false natural/supernatural dichotomous world. I have a narrative of redemption, not progress, and that narrative moves from slavery to inheritance.

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The people who wrote the bible don't know any more about the will of God than you do.
Christianity has been around for 2,000 years and biblical doctrines have been well established and debated serving as the explanation for a Christian belief system. God used people, used councils, brought knowledge to the scripture and we understand the scripture pretty well now because of God working through people, through theologians, in the past to further our understanding of the truth.

As an example, the doctrine of the Trinity has been the orthodox, mainstream position for 1,700 years. It crosses all denominational lines. So when that many great minds of such diversity agree that something is the most biblical, then you have good reason to think it is sound doctrine, and you have good reason to be skeptical of positions which oppose it.

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So stop blindly following the written words of another man...Think freely.
Avoiding that doesn't free you from bias. Such as personal bias, ignorance, sin, cultural bias, etc.

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and follow your own beliefs.
I imagine eventually the biblical concept of the God being triune would have been understood, but, Christian doctrine explains said belief and dropping the explanation for our belief seems a little nonsensical.

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Interperate the will of God for yourself.
This is also a great way to form a cult. If everyone, no matter their level of biblical literacy, just came up with their own interpretation of the scriptures, we'd have chaos. You see that in many countries where missionaries simply converted tribes and then took off.
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Post by: Stealth3si on April 29, 2010, 08:46:41 pm
I am not for same sex marriage, but at the same time, why is it up to the government to decide. If marriage is a religious institution, shouldn't it be up to the religion to decide whether to allow or dis-allow same sex marriage. Marriage should be just simply that to the government, marriage under the confines of the religions definition.

Which religion's definition??  

What about atheists?
The current issue of "marrying" gays is very different than marrying an atheist. Nothing in scripture goes against marrying a heterosexual atheist couple. I believe marriage is not so intermingled it would create a permanent issue. The problem here is this. If gay marriage goes through with marriage as a convoluted blend of church and state, you get to where discrimination will occur or the first amendment will be violated. It is that simple.
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Post by: Stealth3si on April 29, 2010, 08:47:03 pm
Why should churches be allowed to discriminate against homosexuals or anyone else for that matter?
The question is:
'Why are Christian Churches' relationship with homosexuality different than relationships with liars, adulterers, greedy persons, or thieves?'
This has accordingly been dealt with.

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Speaking of the past, the Bible was written long ago when intolerance was the norm.  The writers of the Bible added these messages of discrimination and intolerance because they saw nothing wrong with it, it was part of their values.  
As I said before in the previous thread (http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?topic=7163.msg104888#msg104888), this issue has already been dealt with.

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I'm not saying that the Bible is only a tool for rationalizing prejudice thoughts.  There are good lessons in the Bible but the Bible was written by Man and Man has flaws.  Don't follow blindly follow the written words of another man, you where given free thought for a reason.
Our doctrine states what Christianity is and is the basis of belief even for the nondenominational and charismatic Christians because the Doctrine of Christianity is merely the explanation of our belief and why we believe it.

If you want to step away from orthodoxy and make your own path you will either find yourself denying Christianity and the truths of it which were painstakingly sought out, or you will find yourself understanding what you slandered in your naivete.
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Post by: fredlee1 on April 30, 2010, 08:50:15 am
I believe same sex marriages she not be permitted, in my opionion. The instiution of marriage is between a man & a women. God created Adam & Eve, Not Adam & Steve.
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Post by: VyHazelE on April 30, 2010, 10:01:58 am
This is the 20th century.  My two cents worth is  as long as the people that are getting married love each other and believe in their vows then so be it.

Personally after two arranged marriages by my mother (Amish and my dad French).  I vowed that I don't need a piece of paper to be with the person I love.  A marriage license is not going to make the person more loyal to you.  If a person's love isn't good enough to keep you together than that love won't last by having it legalized in a form of a marriage license.
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Post by: Falconer02 on April 30, 2010, 03:05:50 pm
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I believe same sex marriages she not be permitted, in my opionion. The instiution of marriage is between a man & a women. God created Adam & Eve, Not Adam & Steve.

In order to be rational here and for the sake of this thread in general, you cannot believe in the Adam and Eve story as it has many traits of a fairy tale. Let's not get into that too far though.

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The instiution of marriage is between a man & a women

Change is a key word here.

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If a person's love isn't good enough to keep you together than that love won't last by having it legalized in a form of a marriage license.

We can say that for heterosexual and homosexual so good point. But as far as a marriage license goes, it has certain aspects that are different from just living together (taxes for instance).
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Post by: Graeth on April 30, 2010, 07:29:01 pm
Everyone should be entitled to their own happiness as long as it is not taking happiness from others.
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Post by: teflonfanatic on May 03, 2010, 11:11:41 am
I'm going to be the closed-minded one here and say that I don't feel it should happen. But does it matter, the christendom clergy make money off of marriages so of course it's going to be pushed more money for the synagogues of satan 0_0 (Revelation 2:9)
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Post by: tzs on May 04, 2010, 01:15:04 am
Tha'ts a bunch of bull, people should be happy in choosing their life style, its their actions inside the lifestyle they choose that will get them hurt. My brother is a gay man, and because he supressed his feelings for so long, his life was compromised, and he made a bad decision. He is currently HIV+, and completely content with his sexuallity, now that he's not being judged. If he had ever decided to get married, I would have been right behind him cheering him on, because there is nothing wrong with it!!
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Post by: horsecrazy120 on May 04, 2010, 04:19:29 am
Well, I have nothing to say about all the Christian stuff posted(I was raised Apostolic) because I have found it hardly worth arguing about. I am Pagan, I am bi (and married to a wonderful husband) and I am totally for gay marriage, have been for as long as I can remember.
You can spout all the crap you want to but you cannot take from a person what is rightfully theirs, and that is freedom choice/free will. That is all :D
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Post by: madeara on May 04, 2010, 05:00:12 am
I am opposed to the legalization of same-sex marriage.
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Post by: queenofnines on May 04, 2010, 07:55:00 am
I'm going to be the closed-minded one here and say that I don't feel it should happen.

Well at least he admits he's close-minded.

== The only reason ==  people feel "justified" in being sick and discriminatory against gays is because some book of bullsh*t tells them to.
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Post by: Falconer02 on May 04, 2010, 04:55:23 pm
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I'm going to be the closed-minded one here and say that I don't feel it should happen.

I laughed out loud.

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more money for the synagogues of satan

I'm sure if all the people in those places of worship knew what I knew about your beliefs, they would have a lot of nasty things to say to you as well. Seriously, you just cursed on them over an assumption.

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You can spout all the crap you want to but you cannot take from a person what is rightfully theirs, and that is freedom choice/free will. That is all

Zat ist Korrekt.

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He is currently HIV+,
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and completely content with his sexuallity, now that he's not being judged.
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If he had ever decided to get married, I would have been right behind him cheering him on, because there is nothing wrong with it!!
:-D
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Post by: Fotoguy on May 04, 2010, 09:49:33 pm
I'm going to be the closed-minded one here and say that I don't feel it should happen.

Well at least he admits he's close-minded.

== The only reason ==  people feel "justified" in being sick and discriminatory against gays is because some book of bullsh*t tells them to.

Yeah, and don't forget to tell God that personally (when you stand before Him face to face, on Judgement day) I'm sure He will be very interested in hearing what you think of His " :bs: book. I don't think however you're going to like His response. :crybaby2:
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Post by: queenofnines on May 05, 2010, 07:52:23 am
Yeah, and don't forget to tell God that personally (when you stand before Him face to face, on Judgement day) I'm sure He will be very interested in hearing what you think of His " :bs: book. I don't think however you're going to like His response. :crybaby2:

*Laughs*.

Well I'll be in good company, as less than 1/3 of the world's population is even eligible for heaven!
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Post by: jordandog on May 05, 2010, 08:27:19 am
Yeah, and don't forget to tell God that personally (when you stand before Him face to face, on Judgement day) I'm sure He will be very interested in hearing what you think of His " :bs: book. I don't think however you're going to like His response. :crybaby2:

*Laughs*.

And I laugh with you. Those are exactly the kind of remarks made by 'believers' that turn me off. I will say this, if after I die, I am actually in the position of standing before this God or any other and they 'speak' TO me I'll be amazed enough just by that, that I may listen to them give me the latest box scores or anything else they care to remark on!  ;)
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Post by: Falconer02 on May 05, 2010, 03:08:37 pm
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Yeah, and don't forget to tell God that personally (when you stand before Him face to face, on Judgement day) I'm sure He will be very interested in hearing what you think of His book. I don't think however you're going to like His response.

You presume to speak for god through a man-made book? Based heavily on feelings? Shameful. Absolutely shameful.

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== The only reason ==  people feel "justified" in being sick and discriminatory against gays is because some book of bullsh*t tells them to.

I'd say religious reasons surely top the chart. But for some, it just scares/grosses them out too much to think about it. They justify it thru an emotional naivety-- discrimination through being prude.
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Post by: queenofnines on May 05, 2010, 05:01:33 pm
I'd say religious reasons surely top the chart. But for some, it just scares/grosses them out too much to think about it. They justify it thru an emotional naivety-- discrimination through being prude.

I agree.  I think said emotional naivety goes hand-in-hand with why Xtians will ignore most of the crazy crap from the Old Testament, but remain iron-fisted on those passages that discourage homosexuality.  People WANT to have a people group to pick on, discriminate, and hate.

It is really ironic how many of them like to claim that the OT is null and void (which is a lie), but then there are many more verses against gays in the OT than the New.
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Post by: tzs on May 05, 2010, 11:19:33 pm
I don't agree with Gay Marriage because it doesn't look right to me. I was raised and sheltered to think man and women get together. It is what I was brought up to think is normal, so it is. As far as all the legal stuff... I am not a cop and I have no authority enforcing the laws. I mind my own business.

If one day it is legal...then it is, case closed. Good day.
Do you even have any gay friends, just curious.
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Post by: chimere78 on May 06, 2010, 09:46:28 am
Everyone falls in love one way or another whether your straight or gay it shouldn't matter. Some people don't understand that sometimes being gay isn't a choice. Some people have been born with a few "extra" genes that make a male more feminine and a female more masculine (appearance wise and within the body and mind). And a straight person didn't just wake up one morning and say "hey, I'm gonna be gay from here on out". Everyone has a "flaw" that at least one person will not be happy about. I'm tired of all of these religious issues about same sex marriage. If they were true Christians or whichever religion they are, they would know that WE ARE ALL SINNERS! No one is perfect. So when each and every one of us steps up to the man himself, we ALL have some sort of explanation to discuss. Whether the bible says homosexuality is wrong or not, a sin is a sin. There isn't a better or worse sin. If you rob a bank or steal a piece of gum, that's still STEALING. Whether you lie to your mom about coming home late or lie to the cops, a sin is a sin. Don't judge...because in the end, we are all gonna be judged by God himself.
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Post by: queenofnines on May 06, 2010, 11:31:11 am
Some people don't understand that sometimes being gay isn't a choice.

Uh, being gay is never a choice.  Unless you're a woman who has become fed up with men and sworn them off and has decided to dabble in her own gender, then maybe it's a choice.  lol
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Post by: teflonfanatic on May 06, 2010, 01:52:36 pm
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I'm going to be the closed-minded one here and say that I don't feel it should happen.

I laughed out loud.

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more money for the synagogues of satan

I'm sure if all the people in those places of worship knew what I knew about your beliefs, they would have a lot of nasty things to say to you as well. Seriously, you just cursed on them over an assumption.

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You can spout all the crap you want to but you cannot take from a person what is rightfully theirs, and that is freedom choice/free will. That is all

Zat ist Korrekt.

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He is currently HIV+,
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and completely content with his sexuallity, now that he's not being judged.
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If he had ever decided to get married, I would have been right behind him cheering him on, because there is nothing wrong with it!!
:-D

If they knew about the JW's beliefs they will find that it follows Babylon's hallmarks the least!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Babylon teaches namely, triad of gods, image worship, immortality of the soul, position of the priesthood I.E. The clergy is better then the layman, astrology, divination, magic and sorcery.

@Queenofnines: Thank you for acknowledging that i'm close-minded to the world 0_0. I do some research on my own however and i'm not close-minded to what professors tell you 0_0.
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Post by: Falconer02 on May 06, 2010, 04:27:11 pm
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I have had gay friends but what does that have anything to do with anything? This is my opinion - it still will never look right to me.

Here's a more specific question pertaining to this-- You mention you had gay friends...what does that mean? And if there was a vote in america to legalize gay marriages, would you vote for or against it despite your opinion?

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If they knew about the JW's beliefs they will find that it follows Babylon's hallmarks the least!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Babylon teaches namely, triad of gods, image worship, immortality of the soul, position of the priesthood

So what? You people are 0-9 now with predicting the end of the world. You're furthest from perfect considering the other reigions on this planet. Let's look at the logic that goes on at your circuit assemblies so people here can understand the legitimacy of your churches arguments--

"I went to the Sunday Circuit Assembly and came back all riled up with ALL the nonsense.The Sunday program was on ''safeguarding your spirituality''. ''It is better to remain single and not marry. That gives you more time for studying and the preaching work. Also,you may go to a congregation where the need is greater.'' The speaker talked about how the h1n1 virus has killed thousands around the world. There have been 6 major earthquakes in the last year. He said,''Isn't wonderful that these things have happened as the ''end'' draws near''? ( How sad to wish death on people in Hati and people who died from the virus) Everyone clapped except me.

There were 2 sisters who got up and had a dramatization about a sister not wanting to go to College. I will paraphrase as best as I can.
High School Counselor: ''Have a seat Karen and I will show you all the College applications I have for you.''
Sister: ''Thank you for all the work you have done.''
Counselor: '' I have an application from Harvard,one from Michigan University,and a couple from the East Coast.''
Sister: '' I have done alot of thinking and decided not to go to any College."
Counselor: ''Karen,you have a 4.0 grade average and scored very high on the A.C.T. and you would have no problem getting into any of these schools."
Sister: '' As you know,I'm a Jehovah's Witness and we believe that we are near the ''end times.''  I decided that I will go into the preaching work part time and maybe go to a 2 year school."
Counselor: ''You will probably get into these schools at almost no cost because of your 4.0 average and high A.C.T. scores and have a good career the rest of your life.These are great schools and will prepare you to land a good job.''
Sister: ''This world is passing by and may not be here any longer. I decided to enter the ministry work and Jehovah God will provide for me in the future."
 
Everyone applauded except me."


If you want the source to this, I will post it...but you're close-minded to the world, so I'm sure you'll fuss about it illogically either way.

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Thank you for acknowledging that i'm close-minded to the world 0_0.

That is the worst problem within humanity. Scary.

Edit: Sorry if it looks like I'm digging way too deep into this, people. I just can't stand this type of anti-present/reality logic.
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Post by: teflonfanatic on May 06, 2010, 10:32:14 pm
@Falconor: Who said anything about the JW's being perfect I said that they venerate Babylon's hallmarks the least. If your looking for perfection your not going to find it in this world. You completely took the gift of singleness talk out of context, it was about embracing your singleness if you CHOOSE NOT TO GET MARRIED, not forced or even told you should not get married so you can focus on more goals, it's always the choice of the individual. As for the h1n1 thing they weren't clapping cause millions died due to the gov making another virus and killed x amount of people. They were clapping because it shows the times we are living in. The school presentation was about standing up for spiritual goals. You may look at it as close-minded but none of the apostles did extensive schooling they learned enough to have secular jobs and that's it, they spent their time learning about god's purpose. You can throw all the verbal stones you want but it's still the same written word.  True the JW's seem close-minded but compared to say FLDS and Amish they're very open-minded for such zealous people.
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Post by: Falconer02 on May 07, 2010, 11:49:13 pm
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Who said anything about the JW's being perfect I said that they venerate Babylon's hallmarks the least.

You're trying to put your beliefs in a spotlight but it makes your reasoning skills seem very lacking. So what if they do these things? It's not like your church is good pals with the word "change"...except when it comes to dates of when the end is coming.

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You completely took the gift of singleness talk out of context, it was about embracing your singleness if you CHOOSE NOT TO GET MARRIED

Well I didn't write it originally so honestly I wouldn't know the talk word-for-word.
 
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They were clapping because it shows the times we are living in.

It's still very inappropriate. Especially since these things aren't proof of the end coming.

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The school presentation was about standing up for spiritual goals.

It's not too hard to decypher that the individual could have actually done a lot more good going to Harvard than going door-to-door at 8 AM and bugging people for the rest of her life. Sure she can do whatever she would want to do, but my whole point here is the reasonings make no sense. Call it 'worldly' all you want-- you and your church are doing nothing more than holding people back from what they're truly capable of. Be it through education or sexual preference. I have seen this all too many times across the spectrum.
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Post by: tzs on May 08, 2010, 03:01:56 am
I don't agree with Gay Marriage because it doesn't look right to me. I was raised and sheltered to think man and women get together. It is what I was brought up to think is normal, so it is. As far as all the legal stuff... I am not a cop and I have no authority enforcing the laws. I mind my own business.

If one day it is legal...then it is, case closed. Good day.
Do you even have any gay friends, just curious.
I have had gay friends but what does that have anything to do with anything? This is my opinion - it still will never look right to me.
The reason I ask marieelissa is because eventually your gay friends-if you have them now, will ask you if you agree with them being together, then what- are you goig to tell them the truth about what you think, or will you pass the buck???
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Post by: JHNSONLEEANN on May 08, 2010, 06:09:15 am
It is not our business.  If they love one another, who cares?
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Post by: chimere78 on May 08, 2010, 03:59:29 pm
Some people don't understand that sometimes being gay isn't a choice.

Uh, being gay is never a choice.  Unless you're a woman who has become fed up with men and sworn them off and has decided to dabble in her own gender, then maybe it's a choice.  lol

LoL thats what I said....Being gay isn't a choice. and ur right about if a women becomes fed up with men and switches to women...because i have a friend who has
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Post by: teflonfanatic on May 09, 2010, 10:58:19 am
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Who said anything about the JW's being perfect I said that they venerate Babylon's hallmarks the least.

You're trying to put your beliefs in a spotlight but it makes your reasoning skills seem very lacking. So what if they do these things? It's not like your church is good pals with the word "change"...except when it comes to dates of when the end is coming.

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You completely took the gift of singleness talk out of context, it was about embracing your singleness if you CHOOSE NOT TO GET MARRIED

Well I didn't write it originally so honestly I wouldn't know the talk word-for-word.
 
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They were clapping because it shows the times we are living in.

It's still very inappropriate. Especially since these things aren't proof of the end coming.

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The school presentation was about standing up for spiritual goals.

It's not too hard to decypher that the individual could have actually done a lot more good going to Harvard than going door-to-door at 8 AM and bugging people for the rest of her life. Sure she can do whatever she would want to do, but my whole point here is the reasonings make no sense. Call it 'worldly' all you want-- you and your church are doing nothing more than holding people back from what they're truly capable of. Be it through education or sexual preference. I have seen this all too many times across the spectrum.

First quote: That's why your struggling in the first place you don't pay attention to the talks and instead you either don't get the whole talk or you find a way to twist it so you can bash the organization.

Second quote: It is proof whether you think it's unreasonable or not, yes it's happened before and yes these things are not new, but whether you admit it or not, it's getting more intense as broadcast are showing a ton of 7.0 earthquakes. Technology or not, they have no control of earthquakes being 7+.

Third quote: This was far more then just regular door-to-door it was a talk about choosing school or Bethel.  I've been to a Bethel branch that place rocks. You get free room&board and you get an allowance and free food 3 times a day, not to mention has free haircuts, place to workout, basketball court etc. It's definitely a good choice to pick Bethel over college, college lasts 4 to 8 years  Bethel on the other hand you can stay for as long as you want.  You can do Bethel and do online college classes at the same time. The JW's are doing their best to encourage people to seek first the kingdom(Matthew 6:33), as for any stones that you may throw at the organization for stuff in the past, it doesn't change the fact that they still venerate babylon's hallmarks the least out of all religions. In case you wanted me to admit that the organization is imperfect here it is. THE ORGANIZATION IS IMPERFECT there I said it are you happy?  I can assure you that people will have a hard time following the command at Hebrews 9:23-25 without venerating Babylon's hallmarks if they went somewhere else.  I'm pretty sure God hates organization that continually practice what God hates(Babylon), whereas the JW's will humbly make corrections in their doctrine instead of keeping the same doctrine. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Falconer02 on May 09, 2010, 08:44:23 pm
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That's why your struggling in the first place you don't pay attention to the talks and instead you either don't get the whole talk or you find a way to twist it so you can bash the organization.

I twist things? You're a JW. That's all they do with their logic. You've proved it countless times in other threads.

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Second quote: It is proof whether you think it's unreasonable or not, yes it's happened before and yes these things are not new, but whether you admit it or not, it's getting more intense as broadcast are showing a ton of 7.0 earthquakes. Technology or not, they have no control of earthquakes being 7+.

No, it's furthest from reality. It's pseudoscience. Earthquakes happen. Some years we have massive and catastrophic ones and sometimes we have mild ones. The only reason they may seem to be higher is because we're setting up seismographs in places where there weren't any before. Case in point-- it's random. Besides, JW's are the last to trust when it comes to end-of-the-world predictions. Anyone with an ounce of knowledge of them knows this.
"Take for example the Jehovah's Witnesses. No one group of people in history has ever predicted the end of the world so often and been wrong so often. As of 1984, they are 0 of 9. And in 1995, they took a step further and announced that Armageddon had been postponed until further notice; thank God for that!"
http://www.elcaminouniononline.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticle&ustory_id=f63a9ba3-ed24-4234-81f0-4c4f1b09bddd
"Stay alive till '75!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toVQh0mlolQ
This video gets really sad and creepy near the middle. Everyone should watch.

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It's definitely a good choice to pick Bethel over college, college lasts 4 to 8 years  Bethel on the other hand you can stay for as long as you want.

And not learn anything to benefit mankind in the longrun. This girl has a chance to get a degree and correct harsh problems in the world. And she chose the free haircut place. Despite your completely irrational and delusional beliefs of the end coming, it's obvious to any other person that this example was created by someone with a completely lazy mind. Seriously...Bethel over HARVARD!? Idiocracy in the making.

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I'm pretty sure God hates organization that continually practice what God hates(Babylon), whereas the JW's will humbly make corrections in their doctrine instead of keeping the same doctrine

I'm glad you know who god hates. What a great super guy he is. Everyone-- read this quote. People are always complaining about the bible being rewritten in the past to suit the groups beliefs. This guy just admitted they do it in the present. This is why you can't trust the JW belief system and their teachings-- they don't like homosexuality because of their ample incompetence and irrational reasoning. Let's get back on track.
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Post by: teflonfanatic on May 11, 2010, 06:49:12 pm
First Quote:Exactly what did I twist? You take a portion of my post and then bash the easiest section you can find often out of context.

Second Quote: Science can tell you how but they won't tell you why, as for getting some dates wrong, God's word says
Proverbs 4:18 - "But the path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established."  

As for getting some dates wrong at least they're trying to follow the prophecies and following the bible's moral code, instead of watering it down and killing people in the name of religion. You also forgot to read this apparently READ WHAT'S IN QUOTES AGAIN "as for any stones that you may throw at the organization for stuff in the past, it doesn't change the fact that they still venerate Babylon's hallmarks the least out of all religions."

Third Quote: One man can't fix the whole world, if Jesus couldn't do it(granted he only had three years) How can man do it? You also didn't look up Mathew 6:33 so here it is
33  “Keep on, then, seeking first the kingdom and his righteousness, and all these [other] things will be added to YOU.  

You can't go to college for 4 to 8 years and keep seeking first the kingdom you can't. Just like you can't slave for 2 masters.

Now let me quote what I said again since you obviously read over it.  "You get free room&board and you get an allowance and free food 3 times a day, not to mention has free haircuts, place to workout, basketball court etc." MUCH MUCH MORE then just haircuts. "You can do Bethel and do online college classes at the same time." Your were already helping people know about God's kingdom and it's blessings and you can still get a degree, btw a lot of people are having a hard time getting a job even if they have master degrees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Did I mention this lasts for more then a decade!!!!!!

Fourth Quote: I'm glad you know who god hates. What a great super guy he is. Everyone-- read this quote. People are always complaining about the bible being rewritten in the past to suit the groups beliefs. This guy just admitted they do it in the present. This is why you can't trust the JW belief system and their teachings-- they don't like homosexuality because of their ample incompetence and irrational reasoning. Let's get back on track.

Ok, one where did you get rewrite the bible? I said doctrine/teaching not rewrite the bible. They don't like homosexuality cause the creator doesn't like it not cause of incompetence or irrational reasoning, but I guess to you a 2,000 page book that survived for over 6 millenniums is irrational to you. This is what i'm talking about with twisting things.

As for what God hates only if the person who begins to learn about God continues to do what God hates will receive judgment when the time comes.

I will admit though if they put another end of the world date I will join you, until then though i'm sticking to the religion that's least Babylonian A.K.A Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Post by: Falconer02 on May 11, 2010, 07:24:25 pm
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As for getting some dates wrong at least they're trying to follow the prophecies and following the bible's moral code, instead of watering it down and killing people in the name of religion.

You've scooped up a lot more than just religion here. But I can't trust your reasoning in anything because of your naivity and misinformation on participating in the world. You can't break off from the book to get an aerial viewpoint.

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"as for any stones that you may throw at the organization for stuff in the past, it doesn't change the fact that they still venerate Babylon's hallmarks the least out of all religions."

No one cares. This is an appeal to tradition AND consequence of a belief. Both are major logical fallacies. Homosexuals can be good people. That's what counts here.

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One man can't fix the whole world, if Jesus couldn't do it(granted he only had three years) How can man do it?

Ah! But you've twisted my words once more! I said this girl could help problems in the world. Not FIX the ENTIRE world. One person can make a difference on this globe be it small or large. I'd wager a lot that going to one of the best damned schools on this planet can immensily help push that into reality.

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a lot of people are having a hard time getting a job even if they have master degrees

Red herring.

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Ok, one where did you get rewrite the bible? I said doctrine/teaching not rewrite the bible.

Your NWT was translated by your own scholars. You say it's the most accurate. It's not. JW's aren't even considered christian because of this.
Edit: You can argue and say this isn't true, but it is. This is like saying you're a pink bunny. Everyone but yourself knows your not.

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They don't like homosexuality cause the creator doesn't like it not cause of incompetence or irrational reasoning,

That's irrational reasoning right there.

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but I guess to you a 2,000 page book that survived for over 6 millenniums is irrational to you.

All of the stories weren't assembled into a book till the 4th century. And there have been a few others that have lasted a bit longer-- Hindus and Buddhists got you there. Besides, real and fake stories passing through time is not irrational.

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As for what God hates only if the person who beings to learn about God continues to do what God hates will receive judgment when the time comes.

You just gave out gold. Any person can play the naive card and get away with it with that reasoning.
GOD:"You're a homosexual! I despise you! Look! It says so in my book!"
PERSON: "But I never read your book. Never interested me much."
GOD: "Really? Oh! You're okay then. Move along."
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Post by: BeccaGoga on May 12, 2010, 11:13:56 am
Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. Personally either way doesn't bother me, but if a couple wants to get married then they should be able to no matter what their sexuality, gender, or beliefs are.
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Post by: teflonfanatic on May 14, 2010, 12:26:01 am
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As for getting some dates wrong at least they're trying to follow the prophecies and following the bible's moral code, instead of watering it down and killing people in the name of religion.

You've scooped up a lot more than just religion here. But I can't trust your reasoning in anything because of your naivity and misinformation on participating in the world. You can't break off from the book to get an aerial viewpoint.

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"as for any stones that you may throw at the organization for stuff in the past, it doesn't change the fact that they still venerate Babylon's hallmarks the least out of all religions."

No one cares. This is an appeal to tradition AND consequence of a belief. Both are major logical fallacies. Homosexuals can be good people. That's what counts here.

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One man can't fix the whole world, if Jesus couldn't do it(granted he only had three years) How can man do it?

Ah! But you've twisted my words once more! I said this girl could help problems in the world. Not FIX the ENTIRE world. One person can make a difference on this globe be it small or large. I'd wager a lot that going to one of the best damned schools on this planet can immensily help push that into reality.

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a lot of people are having a hard time getting a job even if they have master degrees

Red herring.

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Ok, one where did you get rewrite the bible? I said doctrine/teaching not rewrite the bible.

Your NWT was translated by your own scholars. You say it's the most accurate. It's not. JW's aren't even considered christian because of this.
Edit: You can argue and say this isn't true, but it is. This is like saying you're a pink bunny. Everyone but yourself knows your not.

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They don't like homosexuality cause the creator doesn't like it not cause of incompetence or irrational reasoning,

That's irrational reasoning right there.

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but I guess to you a 2,000 page book that survived for over 6 millenniums is irrational to you.

All of the stories weren't assembled into a book till the 4th century. And there have been a few others that have lasted a bit longer-- Hindus and Buddhists got you there. Besides, real and fake stories passing through time is not irrational.

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As for what God hates only if the person who beings to learn about God continues to do what God hates will receive judgment when the time comes.

You just gave out gold. Any person can play the naive card and get away with it with that reasoning.
GOD:"You're a homosexual! I despise you! Look! It says so in my book!"
PERSON: "But I never read your book. Never interested me much."
GOD: "Really? Oh! You're okay then. Move along."

First Quote: My reasonings come from the greatest law book in the world but maybe your right, maybe I should just cut you off and let you see for yourself that trusting nobles(humans in high political positions) is not the way

Psalms 146:3 reads 3  Do not put YOUR trust in nobles, Nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.

Second Quote: If Satan can turn himself into an angel of light and his ministers into ministers of righteousness why can't people who practice or live a similar lifestyle not be able to be good?

2 Corinthians 11:14-15 reads 14  And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light. 15  It is therefore nothing great if his ministers also keep transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness. But their end shall be according to their works.

Third Quote: Ok you got me there sorry for stretching your comment, Yes she can help a little, and then she will realize that she can't help everyone and then turn to God.

Fourth Quote: :thumbsup:

Fifth Quote: Oh wow, and the KJ was translated based on church politics(it's own people) and they put a lot of Latin where it shouldn't be such as the Latin word crux(cross) where the Greek word Stauros(stake) is supposed to be. Most bibles keep the Latin word in even though the Greek word is Stauros is there because of the archaelogical evidence that "supposedly" is against this and because it's been passed down.  If anyone reading this has a bible read from  Acts 5:30 and then ask yourself this do you believe that the bible can contradict itself? If you say there's errors then you didn't learn about how the NWT version came about, I know the history, I know why, the what, the when, where and some of who translated it. The so-called errors are coming from people who only read a couple of translations(I looked at a few translations and context) and prefer to keep God's name of out the bible even though it appears almost 7,000 times in the Hebrew-Aramaic scriptures and quoted from in the Christian Greek scriptures over 200 times, not to mention an abbreviation for hallelujah is praise Yahweh/Jehovah(some bibles have Hallelujah in the christian Greek scriptures!!!!) This also disproves God's name not being in the christian Greek scriptures putting the nail in the coffin.

Sixth Quote: Not when you put on the new personality and get rid of the old. I feel you will in time, it seems you left cause of apostasy or you thought you were missing out on something, I also left once, I know what your going though.

Seventh Quote:  I studied both of those religions and none of them bought anyone close to the True God, in Buddhism your mind is God, and the Hindu's didn't know who to worship and even had a TRIUNE GOD one of the marks of Babylon the great and obviously founder of christendom's trinity.

Eighth Quote:  Nice try read the second part, and if continues to do what God hates. God knows how to read hearts and he'll know if your being naive, you'll still get judged.  
For some unfortunate people who didn't get a chance to learn about God's word, God will give them a second chance (lived in Antarctica or something) he'll give them a second chance according to this scripture(Acts 24:15).
ONCE YOU KNOW THE TRUTH YOU KNOW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. People who go to church ask your pastor or whatever(ignorant when it comes to church clergy  :( )  how can unrighteous people get resurrected out of a place there supposed to get tortured forever and how do unrighteous people go to heaven?



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Post by: Rastov on May 14, 2010, 01:15:47 am
^ YHWH's name isn't to be spoken. Only written.
And regardless, you're calling Him by the wrong name. It's not "Jah-hO-vah". It's "Yah-way".

How do you take the fourth commandment anyway? The one that most Christians would say "goddammit" falls under?
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Post by: Falconer02 on May 14, 2010, 09:29:06 am
Absolute proof there's massive problems in High Contol Groups, people. Read in on this. I'll quote him later.
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Post by: tzs on May 14, 2010, 10:43:15 am
Men will continue to have sex with men and get married to eachother! Women will continue to marry women and have sex with eachother!
Some of us don't really have a problem with either -I know I don't-

Hey- you know what I mean- Huh??-Yeah?!??!- YEAH?!?!?!?

Wink, Wink, Nudge, Nudge-SAY NO MORE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

It doesn't matter how deep you claim your religious beliefs run to date-Sorry, its never gonna stop. At the least, we should worry as taxpayers for flipping the bill for the divorce. You know what? We can't even  really worry about that! Straight couples get divorced everyday, just as much as gay couples do, its a constant!

So yes, Sex is good, and ummmm- theres nothing wrong with same sex unions...hmmm what else- uhmmmm- If you don't like it -TOOO BAD!!
HA HA! :heart: :peace: :star:
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Post by: FuzzyCottonsocks on May 14, 2010, 12:08:20 pm
What if God's only motivation for deeming homosexuality a sin was because He wanted people to procreate?  Obviously back in the day, if you had a same sex partner you couldn't have children.  Now science has technically eliminated that obstacle.  If that was His motivation, would He still care? 
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Post by: queenofnines on May 14, 2010, 01:38:31 pm
What if God's only motivation for deeming homosexuality a sin was because He wanted people to procreate?  Obviously back in the day, if you had a same sex partner you couldn't have children.  Now science has technically eliminated that obstacle.  If that was His motivation, would He still care? 

God doesn't change his mind, though (his word is forever!).  Although there are plenty of examples in the Bible where he has.  I'm confused.

I also think god isn't too concerned if we procreate, as he's wiped us out on a couple of occasions...
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Post by: teflonfanatic on May 14, 2010, 02:47:20 pm
^ YHWH's name isn't to be spoken. Only written.
And regardless, you're calling Him by the wrong name. It's not "Jah-hO-vah". It's "Yah-way".

How do you take the fourth commandment anyway? The one that most Christians would say "goddammit" falls under?

Wrong. What you just stated is Pharisee belief(apostate Judaism), also every time you say hallelujah your contradicting yourself because it means praise Yahweh!! As for the name Jehovah it's the English version for the divine name, just like Jesus is the English version for Yeshua/Iesous.  It's funny that Christendom puts Jesus on par with his father and yet they use his name like they know how it was pronounced back then, yet they call evil on anyone who uses his father's name(my aunt has her own church and although she knows his name she can't use it or she'll lose her church.) As for fourth commandment? Is that the you must not take up his name in a worthless way? Worthless is blaspheming against his name not using it in a respectful way. If you view it that way then Jesus and his apostles just broke the fourth commandment since they quoted from the Hebrew-Aramaic scriptures.

Matthew 15:6 reads 6  he must not honor his father at all.’ And so YOU  have made the word of God invalid because of YOUR  tradition.

Revelation 2:8 reads 8  “And to the angel of the congregation in Smyr´na write: These are the things that he says, ‘the First and the Last,’ who became dead and came to life [again], 9  ‘I know your tribulation and poverty—but you are rich—and the blasphemy by those who say they themselves are Jews, and yet they are not but are a synagogue of Satan.

Was it used by Jesus and his disciples?

John 17:26 reads 26  And I have made your name known to them and will make it known, in order that the love with which you loved me may be in them and I in union with them.”

Was that just figurative for his father's will?

Matthew 4:4 reads 4  But in reply he said: “It is written, ‘Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every utterance coming forth through Jehovah’s mouth.’”

This is Jesus replying back to Satan with a quote from Deuteronomy 8:3 where his father's name appears, also LORD all caps in KJ and other bibles is a replacement name for the father not Jesus, look at Psalms 83:18 in an old KJ bible and then look at some modern KJ bibles, notice the replacement!!!!!!!!!!! if Jesus overlooked that one word he who also have made the name of god invalid, do you believe he can do such a thing?

Matthew 4:7 reads 7  Jesus said to him: “Again it is written, ‘You must not put Jehovah your God to the test.’”

Jesus again quotes scripture where his father's name appears(Deuteronomy 6:16)

Matthew 22:73 reads  37  He said to him: “‘You must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind.’

Jesus again quotes scripture where his father's name appears(Deuteronomy 6:5)

Matthew 22:44 reads 44  ‘Jehovah said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies beneath your feet”’?

Jesus quotes scripture with his father's name AGAIN, this time he's talking to pharisees and he quotes from Psalms 110:1

Luke 4:16-21 quotes Isaiah 61:1-2
 
This is Jesus reading an Isaiah scroll in a synagogue and saying that he is the prophesied messiah. There's no question that Jesus used his father's name from these scriptures and as followers of Jesus likewise his apostles would do the same, and my denom definitely follows the way the apostles imitated Jesus minus some miracles of course.

@Falconor02: Your starting to rely on name-calling? Come on man be a little more "rational"  :thumbsup:

@Tzs: It's really not even a matter of belief to me anymore, I know my denom is the least Babylonian which speaks volumes. I looked and researched other religions as well such as Taoism, Shinto, Hinduism, confuciusism(oh whatever you call it) and Buddhism. I'm going to do Judaism next, I found that compared to all the other religions mine is the least Babylonian. The 6 traits of Babylon are, triad of gods(TRINITY), immortality of the soul(life after death), Image worship(idolatry), hellfire(eternal torment), Position of priesthood(huge division between common man and clergy). Practice of astrology, divination, magic, and sorcery.


TRUE monotheistic religion must not have any of these traits in order to be the true religion.

As for people getting divorced all the time, it's because they don't take the marriage seriously and divorce for whatever reason, which is also adultery

Matthew 5:32 reads 32  However, I say to YOU that everyone divorcing his wife, except on account of fornication, makes her a subject for adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

Same sex relationships are CONTRARY TO NATURE in god's eyes and he created nature 0_0.

Romans 1:24-27 reads 24  Therefore God, in keeping with the desires of their hearts, gave them up to uncleanness, that their bodies might be dishonored among them, 25  even those who exchanged the truth of God for the lie and venerated and rendered sacred service to the creation rather than the One who created, who is blessed forever. Amen. 26  That is why God gave them up to disgraceful sexual appetites, for both their females changed the natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature; 27  and likewise even the males left the natural use of the female and became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene and receiving in themselves the full recompense, which was due for their error.

If anyone reading this feels like it stabs a little i'm sorry.

@FuzzyCottonsocks: The "be fruitful" command was never repeated to Christians. He would still care because it's still contrary to nature in his eyes and science is now going to far in messing with nature.

@avril lavigne: Why you got to go and make things complicated(it's a joke please don't take this comment seriously).  Anyway yes he wiped out people who opposed his people. He did this for 2 reasons.

1: To protect the Davidic line(the line Jesus comes though)
2. To get rid of "garbage" (Babylonian religion is contrary to nature in his eyes and thus trash)


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Post by: TaintedLust on May 14, 2010, 03:40:28 pm
I am for same sex marriage. Everyone has the right to choose hisher partner and it shouldn't matter if the person is of the same sex or not.
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Post by: FuzzyCottonsocks on May 14, 2010, 03:59:07 pm
What if God's only motivation for deeming homosexuality a sin was because He wanted people to procreate?  Obviously back in the day, if you had a same sex partner you couldn't have children.  Now science has technically eliminated that obstacle.  If that was His motivation, would He still care? 

God doesn't change his mind, though (his word is forever!).  Although there are plenty of examples in the Bible where he has.  I'm confused.

I also think god isn't too concerned if we procreate, as he's wiped us out on a couple of occasions...

He has wiped people out, but He saved Noah and family.  It seems like He wanted us to continue living.

@teflon:  I agree science is messing with many things it shouldn't.  However I have trouble seeing why homosexuality is worse than any of the other millions of sins people commit on a daily basis.  It seems to me that many people, Christians in particular, have honed in on this like heat seeking missiles. Why not pick on murderers or adulterers?  This is always the hot button issue that comes up with many Christians I have spoken to.
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Post by: queenofnines on May 14, 2010, 04:42:34 pm
@avril lavigne: Why you got to go and make things complicated(it's a joke please don't take this comment seriously).

ahahaha I love it!

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Anyway yes he wiped out people who opposed his people. He did this for 2 reasons.

1: To protect the Davidic line(the line Jesus comes though)
2. To get rid of "garbage" (Babylonian religion is contrary to nature in his eyes and thus trash)

Hmm.  Am I the only one who thinks that's pretty psycho of god to get pissed over his own creation and have everyone drown?  I'm just sayin'.
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Post by: Peds on May 14, 2010, 05:08:17 pm
God seems very judgmental.  I was brought up not to pass judgment ;D

And yea, why would God give man free will if he didn't want man to use that gift?  Food for thought
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Post by: Falconer02 on May 14, 2010, 05:57:34 pm
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Am I the only one who thinks that's pretty psycho of god to get pissed over his own creation and have everyone drown?

Given his history, this is completely normal.

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My reasonings come from the greatest law book in the world but maybe your right, maybe I should just cut you off and let you see for yourself that trusting nobles(humans in high political positions) is not the way

I would not say 'greatest'. It's far too broad of a statement for someone who stays out of the world. I would say "come from a huge law book like many in the world. Some are legit and moral...some are old, outdated, and ridiculous." As far as trusting nobles, again, you wouldn't be practicing your faith if it weren't for some trust in nobles at one time or another. I have an extended family who's very politically active and they do extremely well for themselves. This just means that you can only use the "DONT TRUST NOBLES" card when it does not work-- then you can point fingers, scream, and do your little advertisement just like all of the other JWs.

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If Satan can turn himself into an angel of light---

Gahahahahahaaaaa am I REALLY arguing with a guy who believes this crap? Oh wow. Sounds like Satan belongs in some kids book like Animorphs.

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Yes she can help a little, and then she will realize that she can't help everyone and then turn to God.

A christian god would be a unnecessary crutch and burden in this situation.

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Oh wow, and the KJ was translated based on church politics

And your bible was based on a nice fellow who incorporated pyramidologic speculation into the bible. You can't play the moral highground here. Christianity as a whole is flawed in any rational light you bring on it.

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Not when you put on the new personality and get rid of the old. I feel you will in time, it seems you left cause of apostasy or you thought you were missing out on something, I also left once, I know what your going though.

So you're saying we should stick with irrational beliefs because a god you've never met said so. Got it. Oh and I thought I was missing out on something? If you left and came back, you never really left. That much I can assure you of.

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I studied both of those religions and none of them bought anyone close to the True God, in Buddhism your mind is God, and the Hindu's didn't know who to worship and even had a TRIUNE GOD one of the marks of Babylon the great and obviously founder of christendom's trinity.

The logical fallacy meter just broke from stress. You're pulling a massive "CHRISTIANITY = ONLY RIGHT WAY" close-minder here. I'm certain that every single religion listed here could do the exact same thing and find massive flaws in yours. I see muslims doing it on youtube all the time! It's so childish.

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Nice try read the second part, and if continues to do what God hates. God knows how to read hearts and he'll know if your being naive, you'll still get judged.  For some unfortunate people who didn't get a chance to learn about God's word, God will give them a second chance (lived in Antarctica or something) he'll give them a second chance according to this scripture(Acts 24:15).
ONCE YOU KNOW THE TRUTH YOU KNOW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd insert a facepalm picture here but it'd make this post too long. You know your bible quotes. That much is fer sher. But unfortunately that's all you seem to know-- you're trapped in a faulty philosophy while badmouthing others beliefs that you've never lived or considered.
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Post by: Falconer02 on May 14, 2010, 06:18:43 pm
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Same sex relationships are CONTRARY TO NATURE

Absolutely wrong.

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--in god's eyes and he created nature 0_0.

Oh. Of course. Let's take out reality and replace it with some personality!

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And yea, why would God give man free will if he didn't want man to use that gift?

This is one of the basic major-fallacies with many religions in general. For instance I'm sure Teflon will have 50 scriptural passages to quote for you. Of course without answering it realisitically-- not showing good reasoning as to why it's so important in todays world except when it pertains to his beliefs.
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Post by: FuzzyCottonsocks on May 15, 2010, 06:02:24 am
What do you mean turn himself into an angel of light? Didn't Satan start out as an angel of light?
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Post by: teflonfanatic on May 15, 2010, 09:17:43 am
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Same sex relationships are CONTRARY TO NATURE

Absolutely wrong.

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--in god's eyes and he created nature 0_0.

Oh. Of course. Let's take out reality and replace it with some personality!

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And yea, why would God give man free will if he didn't want man to use that gift?

This is one of the basic major-fallacies with many religions in general. For instance I'm sure Teflon will have 50 scriptural passages to quote for you. Of course without answering it realisitically-- not showing good reasoning as to why it's so important in todays world except when it pertains to his beliefs.

First quote: Well you just went against what his word specifically said.

Second quote: Gave people free will to decide for themselves if they want life or not, we obviously choose to die.

The logical fallacy meter just broke from stress. You're pulling a massive "CHRISTIANITY = ONLY RIGHT WAY" close-minder here. I'm certain that every single religion listed here could do the exact same thing and find massive flaws in yours. I see muslims doing it on youtube all the time! It's so childish.

Again if you know the "hallmarks of Babylon" you can easily tell why almost all religions are false but since you don't know or care to know you think i'm doing it out of opinion. I read up on both those religions I know what they teach and both at one point used idols. I know Hinduism believes in reincarnation which is an after-life belief and another one of Babylon the great's traits.

I did all I can and showed probably close to 50 scriptures I don't know what else I can do to show so-called "rationality". "Throws in the towel again" but you will probably pester all over FC so I guess it won't be long until this happens again, hopefully you will open your heart about the bible instead of looking at it as a fairytale even though there's clear archaeological evidence and clear prophecies, they are real period, self-fulfilling, coincidental or otherwise.

P.S. The NWT was made almost 100 after C.T.R died he had no input on the NWT at all.

@Fuzzycottonsocks: Yes Satan started out as an angel of light, but he didn't stand fast in the truth(as you can see this isn't a JW cult line Jesus DOES talk about being in "the truth")

John 8:44 reads 44  YOU are from YOUR  father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father. That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, because truth is not in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition, because he is a liar and the father of [the lie].

Stand fast means to uphold or strongly keep your position spiritual or otherwise, Jesus evidently said he didn't stand fast because he was at one point in "the truth". He's also a spirit being so he had to be with God and his angels at one point.

Since he left and became the father of the lie and obviously the original apostate, he is now an arch demon who leads some other demons who were angels.

Revelation 12:9 reads 9  So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. 

There is strong evidence this occurred in the beginning of the 20th century such as the world's first global wars and the incarceration being much higher then it was in the past(basing my statistics on America's incarceration rate).

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Post by: Falconer02 on May 15, 2010, 01:23:53 pm
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Well you just went against what his word specifically said.

Did he tell you this personally or did you just read it from some old book? If he did tell you, pix plz.

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Gave people free will to decide for themselves if they want life or not, we obviously choose to die.

This is the problem with your argumenting. You're allowing for the impossible to justify rational things. You rely on cop-outs and handicaps. It's like bumper-bowling next to professional bowlers. Unless you can remove those obvious problems and throw in a real problem with homosexuality, your opinion cannot count.

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I know Hinduism believes in reincarnation which is an after-life belief and another one of Babylon the great's traits.

Prove to me reincarnation does not happen. Without your handicap of course. I'm sure you will find plenty of proof for reincarnation just as you would with creationist nonsense.

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hopefully you will open your heart about the bible instead of looking at it as a fairytale even though there's clear archaeological evidence and clear prophecies, they are real period, self-fulfilling, coincidental or otherwise.

I would never open my heart to the bible. Christianity has been falsified through it being a fairytale, myth, legend, fable-- it encompasses all of these definitions. There is evidence of certain things existing, but prophecies? No. We've been through this before.

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There is strong evidence this occurred in the beginning of the 20th century such as the world's first global wars and the incarceration being much higher then it was in the past(basing my statistics on America's incarceration rate).

Bull. If god wanted people to believe this without skepticism, he would have had it written with an explanation. Names. Dates. Motivations. Lives. Numbers. Instead you've got unclear "examples" that make Nostradamus look like the guy from The Dead Zone.

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Click this link for a free bible study!!!!

Does this count as a referral link? If so, you're breaking the forum rules.
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Post by: teflonfanatic on May 16, 2010, 11:21:02 am
Just going to comment on the last post for obvious reasons.

I'm pretty sure the rules are against referral links to other programs or things you can make money off of.

Edit: Do not post links to other sites
This means no referral links whatsoever

I guess this can fall under free and religious links, everyone broke this rule though lol, it says DO NOT POST LINKS TO OTHER SITES. So no referral links or normal links to other sites 0_0.
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Post by: queenofnines on May 16, 2010, 12:38:29 pm
I guess this can fall under free and religious links, everyone broke this rule though lol, it says DO NOT POST LINKS TO OTHER SITES. So no referral links or normal links to other sites 0_0.

No, we are allowed to post links that aide in the discussion.  Just nothing that would make $$$ for the poster personally.
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Post by: lindabee2 on May 16, 2010, 01:27:37 pm
so i recently heard that E-Harmony was  being sued for not allowing their customers to choose a same sex search.. How does everyone feel about this> Voice your opinion :bunny:


These days, the truth has to be hidden. If a group is denied something or given special privileges, their is always someone watching to suit. The World can't win for losing the batter. But, some groups can pick on all the other people and groups that they want to. How is that balanced? Are we in a don't deny me/us world? Where is the rights of neutral groups to stay separate? The group that you are referring to, have their own group, own paper, own system of living. they separate themselves willingly together.
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Post by: Falconer02 on May 16, 2010, 09:03:34 pm
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These days, the truth has to be hidden. If a group is denied something or given special privileges, their is always someone watching to suit. The World can't win for losing the batter. But, some groups can pick on all the other people and groups that they want to. How is that balanced? Are we in a don't deny me/us world? Where is the rights of neutral groups to stay separate? The group that you are referring to, have their own group, own paper, own system of living. they separate themselves willingly together.

If I understand this correctly, you do bring up a good point about them getting 'special treatment' in cases like this. I will admit sometimes it's just annoying when groups push too far into small things just for attention. The problem here is that a business is denying people just because of sexual-orientation--something they can't change. They aren't trying to separate themselves as much as they are just trying to fit in.
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Post by: girlswin2 on May 16, 2010, 10:59:30 pm
I think people are sue crazy these days and would find any excuse to be able to bring a lawsuit.  I think I liked it better when people kept it to themselves.  Why does everyone have to put everything in everyones faces all the time. :dontknow:   People are going to do whatever makes them happy requardless what someone else thinks. 
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Post by: jordandog on May 17, 2010, 09:46:06 am
Welcome to the World, now please get a life and mind your own business. Don't meddle so much in others affairs...That is why we have Cops!

Who the heck are you talking to? Are you sure you read the topic because I have no idea what this has to do with it.
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Post by: muush88 on May 17, 2010, 09:52:31 am
Welcome to the World, now please get a life and mind your own business. Don't meddle so much in others affairs...That is why we have Cops!

Who the heck are you talking to? Are you sure you read the topic because I have no idea what this has to do with it.

medication mix up   probaply 
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Post by: teflonfanatic on May 17, 2010, 10:10:33 am
You obviously haven't read Leviticus or the works of the flesh scriptures not to mention the first book of the bible where God made the first marriage arrangement. People water down scripture all the time though :(
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Post by: ro901 on May 17, 2010, 10:41:48 am
oh..please insert the F in the word or ...sorry..my F key sticks a lot and so it should have read 'for gays' ...although now that I think about it..that is probably a legitimate question as well...
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Post by: Falconer02 on May 17, 2010, 10:45:03 am
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there is absolutely NO BENEFIT to being married unless you are planning a family

Maybe that's the point of it all. Adoption. Raising a kid in a stable environment. Going through a norm.

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You obviously haven't read Leviticus or the works of the flesh scriptures not to mention the first book of the bible where God made the first marriage arrangement.

And you obviously are incapable of hearing anything outside your little book.

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People are going to do whatever makes them happy requardless what someone else thinks.

Well...maybe. If they're constantly getting hatred towards their decisions (usually from the bible-humpers), it proves extremely difficult to remain happy.

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medication mix up   probably  

Hahahahha!
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Post by: Falconer02 on May 17, 2010, 10:51:41 am
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Yes hahaha please stay at your mcdonalds job and out of healthcare.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Hey, Marie!

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Start takin' 'em!
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Post by: queenofnines on May 17, 2010, 11:29:24 am
there is absolutely NO BENEFIT to being married unless you are planning a family...otherwise you will certainly find it costs more in taxes as well as living expenses.....what is the point of marriage or gays? Just think about it. You may be 'in love' now and crazy with sweat but that will pass and very quickly and even if it doesn't pass, how is being married going to change anything at all except create the need for divorce which you could easily avoid by not getting married in the first place.

Hmm.  Yes there are benefits to being married; there are countless and crucial perks given to those who are wedded from the government.  You may not think that is "fair", but it sure is nice when you're on the other side.  Somehow I don't think that's what you meant though, right?

The main benefit is saying, "I love this person so much, I want to forsake all others and commit to sharing my life with them".  Of course you can still do that without getting married, but our society and brains have it hyped up to be more romantic and "mean more" to make it official.

Saying raising a family is the only benefit is bunk, because we all know that kids oftentimes do not keep people together.  As for living expenses being more, that is bunk unless you are having a sport's team worth of kids or are a freaking spendaholic in the first place.  Living expenses are LESS when you're sharing rent, utilities, etc.

It's been observed that married people live longer; you'll have somebody to lean on during troubled times and somebody to learn from and help you grow.  Yes, the lustful infatuation, excited love DOES fade after a few years, but that's evolution's fault, not your partner's.  You're left with a best friend to enhance all of your experiences and have a shared history with.

As for divorce...I really don't know why there's this negative stigma attached to it.  Yes it sucks that it's no longer working out with someone you planned to share your whole life with, but it shouldn't be looked down upon and judged by society like it is.  It's just like breaking up, but with slightly more history to it.
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Post by: muush88 on May 17, 2010, 11:42:10 am
Yes hahaha please stay at your mcdonalds job and out of healthcare.

You have to be more specific about the Mcdonalds job if that is supposed to be a put down.  I happen to know someone who works for Mcdonalds and makes a 6 figure income. Perscription Drug dealing is not healthcare  its greed only its legal. Do you think those prescription drug commercials are on tv coz the pharmaceutical companies care about you?  Nah they just want you hooked like any other dealer.
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Post by: apatel12 on May 17, 2010, 02:28:18 pm
Now I am not into it, but I think same sex marriage is alright as long as the two people getting married actually love each other. Imagine having the same feelings you do for your spouse, but towards someone of your same sex. That isn't wrong as long as you actually love each other. Same sex marriage isn't ruining the sanctity of marriage, it is all the people just getting married without thinking about it.
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Post by: yvalentin on May 17, 2010, 02:31:44 pm
love is love. it shouldn't matter if its between 2 men, 2 women or a man and a woman. if they're in love, they should be able to get married.
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Post by: FuzzyCottonsocks on May 18, 2010, 04:42:54 am
Hmm.  Am I the only one who thinks that's pretty psycho of god to get pissed over his own creation and have everyone drown?  I'm just sayin'.

I don't know... The way the world is today I'd like to drown some people myself. 
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Post by: Zele on May 19, 2010, 06:23:15 pm
Homosexuals are ok with me
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Post by: Sweetpea94 on May 20, 2010, 09:28:19 am
I don't personally believe in it because that is my religious view and opinion.  I don't judge others that are because we are not supposed to judge others ( that too is my personal belief.) I think that this country has tried to take over areas of our lives that are not anyone elses concern.  I think that people should be allowed to love who they love like we are allowed to have whatever religion we believe in.  You can't help who you fall in love with.  These companion finding websites should make it clear right when you sign up what they allow and don't allow.  They shouldn't miss lead with advertisement.  Homosexuality has been around for many many many years and I don't think anything is going to change or hid that fact.  So we should just embrace the fact that there are homosexuals in this great big world and just continue to live life. 
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Post by: queenofnines on May 20, 2010, 10:46:03 am
@Sweetpea94: It's interesting that you should say you don't "believe" in same-sex marriage because your religion tells you so, but then you go on with your thought processes to attest that religion should not stand in the way of it.  Food for thought!
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Post by: livluvnlaugh on May 20, 2010, 10:56:13 am
I don't  agree or disagree with same sex marriage. I don't think people always get to choose their sexuality it is something you just feel inside.  It is abnormal in our society because we have been taught it is wrong.  But who is to say what you feel deep inside is right or wrong.  I think everyone has the right to choose who they want to spend the rest of their life with.  It is not up to us to judge one another!
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Post by: ladycasshmere on May 23, 2010, 07:57:40 am
I feel that people have a right to choose who they want to spend the rest of their life with.I feel that just because I choose to be heterosexual doesn't mean that people who aren't should be shunned.Just like people have a right to choose what religious belief they want to follow or who to vote for,they should be given the opportunity to marry who they choose.
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Post by: queenofnines on May 23, 2010, 10:11:53 am
I feel that just because I choose to be heterosexual doesn't mean that people who aren't should be shunned.

You don't choose to be heterosexual!  Try to will yourself to be truly attracted to the same sex emotionally and physically to the point that you'd start up a serious relationship with them.  Not.going.to.happen!
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Post by: Sweetpea94 on May 24, 2010, 09:15:01 am
@Sweetpea94: It's interesting that you should say you don't "believe" in same-sex marriage because your religion tells you so, but then you go on with your thought processes to attest that religion should not stand in the way of it.  Food for thought!
Here's you a bowl of soup then Ms. Queenofnines.  Where in my statement did you read me declaring that religion should not stand in the way of someone being homosexual?  I said I don't believe in it.  I said the government shouldn't stand in the way.  The government shouldn't determin who a person loves just like they shouldn't determine what we believe religiously.  The government takes away too many rights and Whether or not my beliefs are in agreement with what the government determines on same sex marriage doesn't dismiss the fact that we as Americans are loosing  rights everyday.  Like I said I don't believe in same sex marriage, but I'm not gonna treat someone bad because they're homosexual and are married to someone of the same sex just because of my beliefs. 
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Post by: queenofnines on May 24, 2010, 10:18:00 am
Here's you a bowl of soup then Ms. Queenofnines.  Where in my statement did you read me declaring that religion should not stand in the way of someone being homosexual?  I said I don't believe in it.  I said the government shouldn't stand in the way.  The government shouldn't determin who a person loves just like they shouldn't determine what we believe religiously.  The government takes away too many rights and Whether or not my beliefs are in agreement with what the government determines on same sex marriage doesn't dismiss the fact that we as Americans are loosing  rights everyday.  Like I said I don't believe in same sex marriage, but I'm not gonna treat someone bad because they're homosexual and are married to someone of the same sex just because of my beliefs. 

Thanks for the soup!  I wasn't trying to offend you or anything, I was just pointing out how it's interesting that you can admit religion has no place in saying that homosexuals shouldn't marry, but you yourself still agree with the religious stance that being homosexual is somehow fundamentally wrong.  It's GOOD you can separate your beliefs vs. what should actually be law; a lot of people can't.  That's all I was saying.
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Post by: jesurich413 on May 24, 2010, 11:35:30 am
Okay this is one heated debate where I actually have an opinion. I don't see why same sex marriage should be illegal. It doesn't hurt anyone, so why make it illegal. Of course that being said, I don't see much point in a marriage certificate. It's just a piece of paper really, if you love each other that should be enough. Again just my opinions.
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Post by: queenofnines on May 24, 2010, 12:55:58 pm
There's quite a bit attached to that piece of paper, though (legally, emotionally).
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Post by: jordandog on May 24, 2010, 03:51:31 pm
"Of course that being said, I don't see much point in a marriage certificate. It's just a piece of paper really, if you love each other that should be enough."

This is NOT directed at you personally in any way or at your opinion. I see and hear this cliched phrase all the time and it is a load of crap. You live with someone for 25 years, one of you dies, and the estate and every single thing you have acquired/built together is null and void in the eyes of the court. You have no death benefits (please don't bring 'common-law' marriage into the picture because it does not apply) and are basically left with a pile of debt. You might have health insurance, but what if the person you are with is diagnosed with a life altering/threatening disease? The costs can run into the millions, literally, for treatment. You cannot just carry another person on your health insurance because you have lived together for many years. So, now you are both wiped out financially and if death results, back to the first scenario of surviving 'spouse'. Your home can be taken from you if you are not on the deed and if you have children together, someone who is 'just a partner' will not necessarily be the first one the courts grant custody to.

There are countless other ramifications you face by NOT HAVING "just a piece of paper". Right, wrong, or in between - it doesn't matter legally what two people in a partnership feel should happen. The courts and the laws, as they stand now, require a legally binding agreement ie that Certificate of Marriage as protection for both parties. To think any other way is pure naivete. I have seen too many couples, opposite and same sex, suffer because of it.
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Post by: Falconer02 on May 25, 2010, 03:28:02 pm
Very nicely said.
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Post by: barnes987 on May 25, 2010, 04:41:44 pm
It is a private business, therefore they can choose what to allow and prohibit within their business. :dog:
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Post by: Dugger07 on May 26, 2010, 11:20:38 am
Personally I think if 2 people think they can make it then go for it. Most relationships end in divorce anyway
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Post by: queenofnines on May 26, 2010, 02:13:07 pm
Most relationships end in divorce anyway

That's a positive way of looking at it.  lol
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Post by: Kiki1992 on May 26, 2010, 03:25:39 pm
It depends on the sexual preferences of the people. Are you talking about gay marriage or two straight people deciding to get married? I think that two straight peolple getting married is rediculous. If you're not gay, what's the point of taking interest in a same sex partner? That's just my opinion.
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Post by: Mona88 on May 26, 2010, 08:31:18 pm
I believe that every1 is free to do whatever they want as long as no1 is getting hurt or hurting any1. Same sex marriage is fine cuz u cant make ppl love something they dont & if thts wat makes them happy than let it be. just like how other religions forbid different race marriage but it still happens and they live happy 4ever, all ppl are the same.
it is wrong to judge ppl.
all ppl have HEARTS, FEELINGS
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Post by: klkwid on May 30, 2010, 11:57:43 am
I've always been open minded to same sex unions.  I see no problem at all with it.  Whether eHarmony offers that service or not, though, is just a stupid point.  If that's a problem, then I want to be able to go to a gay dating website and look up opposite sexes!  What's the difference??  People are just sue happy. 
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Post by: yllek454 on June 14, 2010, 10:03:51 am
people should be able to love and marry whoever they choose to spend their life with. and if it just so happens that they are of the same sex.... who cares! there's nothing wrong with that. and who are these people to tell them that its wrong to be gay.
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Post by: jneff0603 on June 23, 2010, 10:54:27 am
Absolutely in favor of it...no one has the right to tell someone who they can love. Would you let someone tell you that the man (or woman) you love can't be your spouse? It's ridiculous! People cry that it makes a mockery of marriage? So does infidelity, spousal abuse, neglect, prenuptial agreements, and divorce!  :bs:
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Post by: SuperWeeGee on June 23, 2010, 11:00:02 am
As long as they aren't rubbing it in peoples faces, I'm fine with it. ;)
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Post by: queenofnines on June 23, 2010, 11:11:06 am
As long as they aren't rubbing it in peoples faces, I'm fine with it. ;)

So two gay guys are allowed to get married, but if they EXPRESS THEIR LOVE in public by holding hands or making out, *you're* not cool with that?  Sorry, we'll have to outlaw PDA for everyone, then, gay or straight.
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Post by: SuperWeeGee on June 23, 2010, 11:12:48 am
As long as they aren't rubbing it in peoples faces, I'm fine with it. ;)

So two gay guys are allowed to get married, but if they EXPRESS THEIR LOVE in public by holding hands or making out, *you're* not cool with that?  Sorry, we'll have to outlaw PDA for everyone, then, gay or straight.
Things like that are fine with me, but if they start being flamboyant about it is when it starts to bug me.
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Post by: Falconer02 on June 23, 2010, 07:11:15 pm
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Things like that are fine with me, but if they start being flamboyant about it is when it starts to bug me.

I think this is just an opinion that's not harmful to any group. I could say the same about people who brag, boast, and show off something that I'm really not into. I'm not against it...but I do get this weird vibe in the back of my mind that annoys me.

SuperWeeGee...love the name.
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Post by: klkwid on June 24, 2010, 04:56:28 am
First, Falconer-I LOVE that pic LOL!!!!  Too funny :)
Second, ANY PDA is kind of excessive to me!  It's ok for the holding hands thing while walking down the street or a hug occasionally or whatever, but when people are making out and getting overly into it, all I can say is GET A ROOM!  Doesn't matter if your straight, bi, gay, or whatever else people have made up as labels now. 
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Post by: rsbese889 on June 24, 2010, 04:58:53 am
I will admit I'm a bit of a hypocrite I'm okay with lesbians and gays, but I believe that marriage should only be left to opposing genders.
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Post by: queenofnines on June 24, 2010, 08:35:42 am
when people are making out and getting overly into it, all I can say is GET A ROOM!

So people acting in love must be banished out of sight of the public?  Can you prove that such an act is truly having a negative effect on everyone else's lives?  If not, you have no right to say anything to them.
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Post by: queenofnines on June 24, 2010, 01:15:07 pm
Let's all have sex in public, the animals do and they see nothing wrong with it, when you want it you want it, just expression of love.

Heh, what is up with people who like to jump to extremes?!  Although objectively, I personally would not be offended if you WERE having sex in public (I probably would just not want to see your ugly body parts, but I could get over it.  People affront others with their wobbly bits all the time even WITH clothes on if they don't choose the right ones.  Think Wal-mart).  I think it ultimately goes back to we keep our "private parts" private due to things like rape.
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Post by: queenofnines on June 24, 2010, 02:11:26 pm
You have to look at your ugly body parts everyday. I have to say you are very screwed up in the head. The body is beautiful. Some people are just perverted and that's why they think the naked body is bad. Genitalia is no different than an arm or leg.

Je-sus, marieelissa, you sure love labeling and judging people at the drop of a hat.  I'm very screwed up in the head because I think people who don't take care of themselves (in the case of obesity) are unattractive?  Well me and pretty much everyone who is not obese (or IS overweight and does not want to be) are screwed up then.  I never said anything about genitalia.  I am actually one of the few in this country who think it is wrong to circumcise baby boys, whereas one of the top arguments FOR circumcision is that natural penises are ugly.

You just get off on calling people names.  Grow up!
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Post by: Falconer02 on June 24, 2010, 05:33:27 pm
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Can you prove that such an act is truly having a negative effect on everyone else's lives?  If not, you have no right to say anything to them

It really depends on the situation. I mean if a couple is making out in the parking lot of a mall, I doubt anyone will mind. But there are situations where it is causing disruptions. I once had a couple in one of my computer-lab classes make out. It had to be distracting to the people around them because it's taking their concentration off of their work-- after class I heard them talking about it ("wtf was up with that?" "Yeah I know!"). Also there was that one Seinfeld episode where Jerry makes out with some girl while watching Schindler's List. HA!

I would go to say this is on par with talking loudly on your cellphone in a library or anything like that though. It's not strictly due to some prude norm-- it's just distracting because it's so noticeable.
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Post by: queenofnines on June 24, 2010, 06:45:13 pm
It really depends on the situation.

Yeah, I agree.  If it is having a negative effect on peoples' studies, that would be a justifiable reason to object.  I was talking more along the lines of "if it makes me uncomfortable it should not be allowed, ever!".  If that is the only reason, it's not a very good one.  ;)
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Post by: SPKiwi on June 24, 2010, 10:16:25 pm
E-harmony doesn't have to provide it, wtf????
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Post by: luisa1976 on June 25, 2010, 05:40:07 am
I feel we hafe enough to worry about our own problems that if two people want to lock lips and be husband and wife and as long as it is not me then I do not care. I am about minding my own buisness. we have a whole lot of other things to worry about like feeding our families and getting more money in the economy to worry about same sex or or any sex couples I mean come on half of us are not same sex and can not get it together anyway and there are gay couples who are adopting kids. I say be and let be and get ur own stuff together. when we die does it matter anyway that is all materal anyway.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: Falconer02 on June 25, 2010, 10:08:39 am
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YOU'RE BEING PURPOSEFULLY TROLL-LIKE HERE.  Anybody of a healthy mental makeup would know I meant interrupting them and telling them to stop it.  Jesus.

She's off of her meds and off of her rocker. As usual. She's a child. Ignore her!
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: queenofnines on June 25, 2010, 12:48:53 pm
For QueenofNines: http://avril-lavigne-perfumes.com/teaser.aspx  :peace:

I appreciate the peace act.  :)
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: queenofnines on June 26, 2010, 07:19:39 am
I think gays should get back in the fuking closet where they belong and stay there.

Wow, I can't believe you have the audacity to say that.  Would you say that to one of your friends or family members if you found out they were gay?  Do you feel the same hatred towards blacks, women, and any other group that has been wrongly discriminated against throughout history?

You have it wrong...it is your homophobic attitude that needs to get back in the f-ing closet where it belongs.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: carebearmafia on June 26, 2010, 08:04:54 am
Yes, I would tell my friend or family member to keep it to their damn self. I am not talking about race here. I am talking about a social deivation.
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wow lol you're a winner. glad you know whats right or wrong for society  :bs:
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: queenofnines on June 26, 2010, 09:14:44 am
Marriage is for 'man and wife', not Sally and Jane or Tom and Jeff. I still say go back in the closet and stay there.

And the funny thing is, the only argument you have against homosexuality comes from your Bible, which unfortunately for you, is a book of evil, contradictory fairytales and falsehoods that has no place in the real world.  You have no natural reason other than your own hatred to discriminate against them.  They aren't doing anything wrong and they're not hurting anyone.

P.S.  The fact that you said "man and wife" versus "husband and wife" says something too.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: queenofnines on June 26, 2010, 09:55:02 am
I do not fear you. I simply find you disgusting.

I'm not trying to get you to "fear" me, I'm simply trying to get you to see that your mindset is wrong.  A person who is speaking on behalf of human rights compared to a bigoted bully who has no rational grounds to stand on for their hate...I think you should really take a step back and ask yourself who is the disgusting one.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: Falconer02 on June 26, 2010, 10:44:22 am
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I think gays should get back in the fuking closet where they belong and stay there.

Are you a woman? If so, get back in the kitchen where you belong and stay there!

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just don't expect me to accept it as right or 'normal' ...I'm tired of this crap.

Homosexuality is abnormal though. I wouldn't call it crap because it's obviously such a touchy subject in the present. They just want to be treated equally over something they cannot change.

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I am tired of gays coming off as 'victims' ...nobody forced them to be what they are..they chose it.

Look at their history. They have 'victim' written all over it. And it's not a choice. If you knew any gays, you'd know this right off the bat. But I'm really really interested in hearing your stories about interactions with homosexuals if you have any.

Also-- a quick personal question -- if you're a guy, have you ever seen 2 attractive lesbians make out? Do you think it's hot?

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Marriage is for 'man and wife', not Sally and Jane or Tom and Jeff.

Is this written in stone? Says who?

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I do not fear you. I simply find you disgusting.

C'mon! That's uncalled for. If you're going to argue your stance, be a little civil more here. It makes your side of the argument look more decent.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: queenofnines on June 26, 2010, 11:37:26 am
If you walked up in my yard today, I would treat you in a civil manner. I do not hate you. I just do not accept your way of life as 'right or normal' and I will be glad when I am no longer living in this world that has become a huge nasty ugly place to be. I have no hate for you. You are welcome to your deviant lifestyle and your sexual needs whatever they may be but even if you get married to somebody of the same sex, you will still be 2 fags married to each other.

Heh, not sure why you are speaking in a tone that assumes I am gay...I am a heterosexual married female, for the record...do you think people who support gays must be gay themselves or something?!  You claim you used to have experience "on that sight of the fence" - are you a self-loathing gay?  Just asking.
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Post by: lucky382001 on December 28, 2010, 11:34:22 am

You can think something is "weird", but that doesn't mean people shouldn't have the right to do it.  It IS normal because it's not something a person chooses in most cases and is found throughout nature.


So is cannibalism.

Oh don't tell me they are going to discriminate against cannibals now too!   ;D
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: adstony on December 28, 2010, 11:40:34 am
If you want to be with a person of the same sex go for it.  The marrige to me is still only between a man and a woman.  I look at that if you want a paper that is making you officially with each other then you can get it.  It helps with being able to claim the other person on things like insurance and being able to more easily get any other legal items that can help with any type of expenses. 
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: lucky382001 on December 28, 2010, 11:42:28 am
Sorry Marie I couldn't resist :)

Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: queenofnines on December 29, 2010, 07:40:20 am
Why is them having 19 kids appalling? That is called Freedom and I hate when people like you spew that crap from your mouth. Do you know people have died for people to have the right to have Freedom in America to have as many babies as they want? People have also died so you can criticize them for exercising their freedoms.

It's appalling for multiple reasons...

#1 Because it's environmentally irresponsible.  The earth CAN NOT provide enough resources for an exponential amount of people.  This is evidenced by the fact that people are already starving.  It's just plain selfish to have more than 3 kids, as you are stealing resources away from somebody else and stressing the earth more than your fair share.

#2 They isolate those 19 kids away from reality and fill their heads with delusions.

#3 There's no way each child gets a proper upbringing/enough attention.  Jordyn got an A in school; Jessa walked for the first time?  Who cares, the parents have already seen it all before 18 other times.  There's no time for a kid to feel special when another kid gets cranked out each year.

People also have the "freedom" to stuff their faces and weigh 800 pounds and make the rest of us pay for it; that doesn't make it right!

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Guess what chick, I am healthy have had plenty of sex and never used birth control and have never had a baby and never had an abortion...still wanna argue that pregnancy happens on it's own?

You're bragging about not using birth control?   ::)  That's just plain stupid of you!  Of course you will get pregnant if you don't use contraception...unless you have fertility problems, or unless you're lying about your method of sex (doing it anally instead of vaginally).  Ya know, how you told us all how your celibate with your imaginary boyfriend Wayne?
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: adstony on December 29, 2010, 08:13:12 am
I understand for religous reasons they do not use birth control but just like with the last one she had she had alot of problems that to me should show get your tobes tied.  To me the kids raise the other kids not the partents and that is not fair for the kids to be doing that.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: Shauna1821 on December 29, 2010, 08:56:39 am
As long as it is two consenting adult there is nothing wrong with same sex marriage and i do realize that people do get married just for tax breaks but if thats what most people are worried about then they should question unisex marriages too. If two gay people want to get married let them it is thier choice. I feel as though they are not hurting me in any way so whats the problem? :dontknow:
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: workmama on December 29, 2010, 09:13:44 am
Well, for 2 years I have had Mirena ( birth control, implanted in the uterus), and I get this nasty feeling that I am destroying my body or something. I would like to have more children and the only reason I use birth control is because of the finicial situation I am in right now. But using birth control I feel like I am not following God's path. Has anyone else felt this way? Or am I just being silly?  :-[
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: Robg2 on December 29, 2010, 09:24:40 am
First I have to ask what does birth control have to do with same sex marriage? Birth control isnt needed with same sex marriges. Being that Im a gay man I feel strongly for same sex marriage. Im looking to have my relationship to have the same rights as a straight couples thats all.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: adstony on December 29, 2010, 01:41:32 pm
Well, for 2 years I have had Mirena ( birth control, implanted in the uterus), and I get this nasty feeling that I am destroying my body or something. I would like to have more children and the only reason I use birth control is because of the finicial situation I am in right now. But using birth control I feel like I am not following God's path. Has anyone else felt this way? Or am I just being silly?  :-[

For one thing there is no such thing as being finicially ready for a baby with having 2 I will tell you that.  Also I do know alot of women that feel the same way you do about if you are following God's path you for.  Please make sure to pray about it.  There are signs that will tell you.  My wife had he tubes tied after out second due to all the problems that she had with both pregancies.  She had that feeling that somthing worst would happen and after praying about it came to having that feeling that that would be best for her at this time.  But she is also having the feeling that we should adopt one day.  It is not a silly thing to feel.  The best thing is to do the praying.  Just like it you can try what some people I have know try to do.  Figure out your when you ovulate and do not have sex around that time.  3 friends I know have being tring it.  For 2 of them it is worked for about 2 years now.  The other one well you know if you get too excited you can ovulate at a different time then and now they have a little boy.  But when you ask them they always say God whated us to have one we can only do so much if God knows it's your time nothing can prevent it.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: Falconer02 on December 29, 2010, 07:59:27 pm
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I get this nasty feeling that I am destroying my body or something. I would like to have more children and the only reason I use birth control is because of the finicial situation I am in right now. But using birth control I feel like I am not following God's path. Has anyone else felt this way? Or am I just being silly?

"God's Path"? You mean like have a bunch of kids so it sends you to your deathbed 10-20 years quicker? No, you're not being silly at all. If people would look up from that old book made for ancient thinking and focus on reality-- maybe pick up this months National Geographic (having to do with population control), they'd feel beyond silly for having their heads in the sand for so long. People need to understand that the whole "have a ton of kids and spread about the world!" is a BAD idea nowadays. REALLY bad. We can only hold 10 billion people before we're going to be overstressing this planet. We're up to 7 right now and it keeps going up. So, with an aerial viewpoint, you're helping everyone. This aspect includes homosexual couples adopting.

If you decide to have a kid or adopt one, very cool and g4u. Very honorable.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: muush88 on December 30, 2010, 03:47:15 am

You're bragging about not using birth control?   ::)  That's just plain stupid of you!  Of course you will get pregnant if you don't use contraception...unless you have fertility problems, or unless you're lying about your method of sex (doing it anally instead of vaginally).  Ya know, how you told us all how your celibate with your imaginary boyfriend Wayne?

I think it's more of the fact they pull out, is why I never get pregnant.

Wow your having lots of sex and wayne is left spanking the monkey  attagirl
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: queenofnines on December 30, 2010, 07:31:56 am
I think it's more of the fact they pull out, is why I never get pregnant.

Do NOT take this advice, fellow females!  You can still get pregnant this way!!
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: ButterflyWings on December 30, 2010, 07:45:28 am
First on the topic of same sex marriages I am all for it and I think E harmony is in the wrong...

Now onto the birth control issue..UGH PULL OUT METHOD ARE YOU SERIOUS?? Wow crazy been there done that thats how I got my first daughter LMAO..Now I did the IUD after my daughter had no issues..it lasted 5 years then I wanted another and had my son..After that I was having issues with second IUD I developed a allergy to copper (this is before they went to plastic or whatever IUD's) So I did Mirena and had no issues and my body was just fine..I had a beautiful baby girl 3 years later..My birth control now is my tubes are tied..I know that 3 beautiful babies were enough and all I could raise correctly and give what they need..So..Protect yourself unwanted pregnancies are a issue and not fair to babies who are born this way..DO NOT USE PULL OUT METHOD THIS IS FOOLISH!!
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: adstony on December 30, 2010, 07:49:57 am
Here is the funnies was one of my buddies got his girl friend pregnent.  They did forplay and all of that but no insterting.  He cam all over her vigina which more then likely was not the first time.  But she did get pregnent.  He did think that she cheeted on him because he never insterted and she wondered how it happened.  When the baby was born the test came back he was the father.  Docator said that with you play if it does spray in that area that it can get in and have a chance of it.  It was one of these way out there stats that they were given but it happened with them.  

The pull out does not work very well due to there is some that gets out before the guy blows the big amount that he is tring to keep from going in you.  All it takes in one to make it through and there you go a new live starts.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: ElleRich on December 30, 2010, 08:00:48 am
so i recently heard that E-Harmony was  being sued for not allowing their customers to choose a same sex search.. How does everyone feel about this> Voice your opinion :bunny:
My opinion is that the terms of service of EHarmony would have explained the rules.  I am not a member, so I cannot write about this incident and posting firsthand.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: adstony on December 30, 2010, 08:15:54 am
so i recently heard that E-Harmony was  being sued for not allowing their customers to choose a same sex search.. How does everyone feel about this> Voice your opinion :bunny:
My opinion is that the terms of service of EHarmony would have explained the rules.  I am not a member, so I cannot write about this incident and posting firsthand.

There are more sites then just EHarmony out there for looking for relationships.  EHarmony has the right to limit your searchs.  But it should have somthing in the guide lines for the site that tell you that also.  One stat that I have seen only about 20% of people read all the terms, conditions, and rules of anthing that they sign up for.  That is a big shame
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: sarah_hollock on December 30, 2010, 01:37:12 pm
 I was raised in a same sex lifestyle and I would want anything more then if they were able to have marriage or any other thing that everyone else in the world gets to do. Dont get me wrong i am not a person who would walk around downtown holding a poster . I am the one on the side  with a tshirt thatsays  Legalize LGBT
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Post by: dreamongirl on January 01, 2011, 08:34:54 am
that's not cool. there are so many dating site out there and to sue them is not cool.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: gibsonbrian99 on January 01, 2011, 11:34:22 am
 :heart: :peace:We are just like everyone else all we (gay people) are just looking for love and if that is wrong I don't want to be wrong :peace: :heart:  And you can take them to civil court for emotional damage :bunny: :cat: :dog: :fish: :BangHead:
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: bschumacher on January 02, 2011, 09:21:19 am
A certain percentage of people are born homosexual. It is not their fault. If they find someone to marry, they should do so. I had never known any gays until a lesbian couple moved in next door 20 years ago. They are good neighbors, good parents, and productive members of society. I dare anyone to look down their noses at them! 10 years ago, they married in Quebec. Before they left, I witnessed & signed their marriage papers; I was proud to do so because I wanted them to have the same happiness my husband and I have. I thought it was unjust that back then, they had to travel to Canada when it was so easy for my husband and me to get hitched.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: healthfreedom on January 05, 2011, 07:14:58 pm
E-Harmony is a private business that can set their own standards. If certain people don't like it, they should just use other services.
Title: Re: HOW DOES EVERYONE FEEL ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIGE?? ICE BREAKER
Post by: slawson123 on January 05, 2011, 09:11:57 pm
I feel that everyone should have the right to choose who they love. It is one of our may freedoms. As for marriage, I think they should do what makes them happy. We don't have the right to tell people what their religion is and I don't think we have the right to tell people who they can love and marry based off of our own personal beliefs.