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I have a hard time believing that our President is a leader. I really truly believe he is more of a follower than a leader. Who else out there agrees with me? If there is one place in this country that needs a leader, it's our Commander-in- Chief. What do you all think?
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No, I do not.
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I'm sick of Obama. He hasn't done anything to help our country. If he gets reelected I'm moving to Canada.
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No he is not a leader. He is a stupid, socialist, muslim, anti-American piece of dog crap.
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It's hard for me to keep my faith in this man...
So far what I have seen is he is really good at spending money and taking trips.
I think it's funny people use to complain about Bush, but Bush's Vacays were at his own ranches. lol
Sure it still cost money to get him there but not as much as Obama's taking friends and family out of Country.
I think Obama skipping out on a Memorial Day ceremony at Arlington Cemetery because he wanted to go to Chicago on " vacation" kinda made me cringe.
He's been acting like more of a celebrity in my opinion.
Seeing that his wife spend money on trips, expensive sneakers, outfits ( she still looks sloppy), and taking her grieving friends out of country.
I'm crossing my fingers that maybe just maybe all this spending might produce a positive outcome.
I highly doubt it, but am trying to keep a positive outlook. Maybe spending money might earn money?
Lets hope he is applying it correctly.
Call me crazy but I don't care if it's a right wing or left wing president as long as they do something positive that reflects a good standing or better standing with the economy.
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I suppose I never answered if he was a leader in my opinion. haha politics gets my gears going. He is currently balanced in my opinion he follows and leads.
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I think that all Obama wants out of his presidency is to be remembered...he's taking on too much and it's getting ridiculous! This economy is bleeding and he isn't doing anything helpful. He's like the Oprah of the Whitehouse---You get a bailout! You get a bailout! You get a bailout! :bs:
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he is the best leader
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I have a hard time believing that our President is a leader. I really truly believe he is more of a follower than a leader. Who else out there agrees with me? If there is one place in this country that needs a leader, it's our Commander-in- Chief. What do you all think?
I think that they dont hire people who are leaders to be the president for a reason. He is not the leader and does not have the power, so his job is to be able to rally people, turn the left and right against each other to keep the divide between the people. Talk a whole lot of nothing that just leaves you with more questions than you started with, and never any answers. Tell you what you want to hear, and if your a good actor sounding sincere than all the better.. but its only second, after all your emotion doesnt stay on the record, your speeches do.
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I have a hard time believing that our President is a leader. I really truly believe he is more of a follower than a leader. Who else out there agrees with me? If there is one place in this country that needs a leader, it's our Commander-in- Chief. What do you all think?
:cat: I am with you on this matter. :thumbsup:
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He is absolutely a leader and he is leading us right into the poorhouse.
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he is the best leader
ROFLMAO You live under a rock I guess?
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I do wonder if Obama was white would all these negative comments be made. The man is trying to help the country from going down a hole, the same thing Bush should have been doing before he left office. Bush left this mess for Obama to clean up. You all are always comlaining about the amount of vacations he and his family take , well he didn't take as many as Bush and for all your complaining and bitching you really don't know where Bush was really taking all his vacations.
Why don't all you nay sayers take a real look at Bush's record before continuing to blame Obama for everthing to include your chipped nails. Bush cheated his way into the white house and lied at each step, why didn't you complain then? Enough of trying to blame Obama for all the financial misery out there. The funny thing about all this is with all the billions given to the banks and car dealers, the exectuives were still giving themselves million dollar bonuses and taking vacations on their yachts and guess what they were all white.
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I agree in that he seems to be more of a celebrity than a leader of our Country. He is self serving and a money waster. I see no "leading" to this point except leading us down the path of destruction.
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I do wonder if Obama was white would all these negative comments be made. The man is trying to help the country from going down a hole, the same thing Bush should have been doing before he left office. Bush left this mess for Obama to clean up. You all are always comlaining about the amount of vacations he and his family take , well he didn't take as many as Bush and for all your complaining and bitching you really don't know where Bush was really taking all his vacations.
Why don't all you nay sayers take a real look at Bush's record before continuing to blame Obama for everthing to include your chipped nails. Bush cheated his way into the white house and lied at each step, why didn't you complain then? Enough of trying to blame Obama for all the financial misery out there. The funny thing about all this is with all the billions given to the banks and car dealers, the exectuives were still giving themselves million dollar bonuses and taking vacations on their yachts and guess what they were all white.
If Im not mistaken it was the Obama policy that allowed these white people to give themselves these bonus's and bailed out these billionaires when they made bad decisions that effected the majority of America.
As for messes to clean up, that is Obama's job, and why he was hired.. its not an excuse for failure. Bush had a mess to clean up, every president has a mess to clean up.. Bush was terrible, so is Obama.. Easy way to judge? Compare what they do, how is the economy? What did Bush do to help? bailouts... well whats this CHANGE Obama does? bailouts... wait... change?? Then there is the wars... failing miserably and he promises to bring the troops home.. in no time, he sends even more troops to war... Thats the opposite of bringing them home BTW. Its funny how people use Bush as a judge of character, why not just compare Obama to hitler? At least Obama isnt gassing the jew's! So he is a good guy! Doesnt make sense does it? Same as it doesnt make sense to compare him to a horrible man like Bush. The main thing is they both run the same policy, war and bailouts...
Obama is almost as bad as Bush in some ways, and worse in others. He is just a much better speaker, and sells dopes "hope on a rope" haha. meanwhile war continues, and he wont even do something as simple as abolish the Military Commissions act or Patriot ACT which is clearly against the Constitution! He wont even condemn torture, instead he will promise to close a single place where it is carried out... as if the place itself is the criminal, not the acts done there and many other places.. Its just a sick joke to think that any President has your best interest at heart, you dont pay his bills! Your not the one who got him in office! It was the big budgets of the big business, and he must do his job working for them.
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Leader in Spending... Haha, I like it.
To bad it's true.
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I do not feel that he is a leader. He is more a political spender that cannot see that his reforms are hurting the very people that he thinks he is helping. I don't want to journey into this discussion since my blood pressure is stable at the moment.
Sandy
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i am sorry i can not believe president obama is a leader.i think he is a joke. i did not vote for him the first time and i will definately vote for him the next time.
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People, let's be reasonable. He's gotta be the President for some reason. From where this country was, I would think that it would take some time to get eveything back right- ROME wasn't built in a day!
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I do not agree but he is doing as best he can. I dont believe even though he is the president that he really controls things
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LOL.... A leader thats a joke. He is not a leader except in spending money. All he wants to to be walking around with his bird chest sticking out like he is someone. His wife is a leader but not him. :cat: :thumbsup:
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Nope... He's spender thats for sure. I hope and pray he's not re-elected
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I do wonder if Obama was white would all these negative comments be made. The man is trying to help the country from going down a hole, the same thing Bush should have been doing before he left office. Bush left this mess for Obama to clean up. You all are always comlaining about the amount of vacations he and his family take , well he didn't take as many as Bush and for all your complaining and bitching you really don't know where Bush was really taking all his vacations.
Why don't all you nay sayers take a real look at Bush's record before continuing to blame Obama for everthing to include your chipped nails. Bush cheated his way into the white house and lied at each step, why didn't you complain then? Enough of trying to blame Obama for all the financial misery out there. The funny thing about all this is with all the billions given to the banks and car dealers, the exectuives were still giving themselves million dollar bonuses and taking vacations on their yachts and guess what they were all white.
It's funny how so many use the race card still. Who cares if the man is blue, green, or orange? Yes, he got into a mess after Bush left but does it mean he has to add full to the fire? Everyone complained about Bush!
He was one of the most made fun of presidents for a lot of the choices he made and hated for a lot of other things he did. It's ridiculous that anyone would sit here and say oh it's cuz they are white boo hoo they are picking on the non-white president. Not all successful people are white and that is really ridiculous you see things that way. FYI I am multi- racial so don't pull the but your a white girl saying this bs.
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I do wonder if Obama was white would all these negative comments be made. The man is trying to help the country from going down a hole, the same thing Bush should have been doing before he left office. Bush left this mess for Obama to clean up. You all are always comlaining about the amount of vacations he and his family take , well he didn't take as many as Bush and for all your complaining and bitching you really don't know where Bush was really taking all his vacations.
Why don't all you nay sayers take a real look at Bush's record before continuing to blame Obama for everthing to include your chipped nails. Bush cheated his way into the white house and lied at each step, why didn't you complain then? Enough of trying to blame Obama for all the financial misery out there. The funny thing about all this is with all the billions given to the banks and car dealers, the exectuives were still giving themselves million dollar bonuses and taking vacations on their yachts and guess what they were all white.
If Im not mistaken it was the Obama policy that allowed these white people to give themselves these bonus's and bailed out these billionaires when they made bad decisions that effected the majority of America.
As for messes to clean up, that is Obama's job, and why he was hired.. its not an excuse for failure. Bush had a mess to clean up, every president has a mess to clean up.. Bush was terrible, so is Obama.. Easy way to judge? Compare what they do, how is the economy? What did Bush do to help? bailouts... well whats this CHANGE Obama does? bailouts... wait... change?? Then there is the wars... failing miserably and he promises to bring the troops home.. in no time, he sends even more troops to war... Thats the opposite of bringing them home BTW. Its funny how people use Bush as a judge of character, why not just compare Obama to hitler? At least Obama isnt gassing the jew's! So he is a good guy! Doesnt make sense does it? Same as it doesnt make sense to compare him to a horrible man like Bush. The main thing is they both run the same policy, war and bailouts...
Obama is almost as bad as Bush in some ways, and worse in others. He is just a much better speaker, and sells dopes "hope on a rope" haha. meanwhile war continues, and he wont even do something as simple as abolish the Military Commissions act or Patriot ACT which is clearly against the Constitution! He wont even condemn torture, instead he will promise to close a single place where it is carried out... as if the place itself is the criminal, not the acts done there and many other places.. Its just a sick joke to think that any President has your best interest at heart, you dont pay his bills! Your not the one who got him in office! It was the big budgets of the big business, and he must do his job working for them.
Bravo!! You stated everything I thought with such eloquence! :notworthy:
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Thanks everyone for their input. It seems that 90% of you think he is "leading" us down the wrong path. I totally agree!
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Thanks. :)
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There isn't many things more entertaining and frustrating than debating politics with people that do not know what they are talking about. It's adorable. Go ahead, spout off your little catch phrases and talking points. He's gonna win by a LANDSLIDE in 2012. Oh.. oh,,, Maybe that's when the world will end. Where's his birth certificate. Blah. You're all idiots.
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let em do his job
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Well I could write a book on this one. I am very disappointed in him. I voted for him and I am a Christian. I voted for him, because I really did not have a choice, I was not voting for mccain, I am tired of seeing the poor man defeated, the middle man giving to the rich, it is this system, when middle class people do have good jobs, they take all your living expense money out for taxes, it is rediculous, me and my husband were figuring that they take out enough money, that would afford us a whole other place, bigger and nicer than the dump we got to live in, another words whoever we are supporting with our money, can afford more than we can with our money. Obama was supposed to change this, he hasn't done squat besides, say he is a Christian then ruin our ties with Israel, and want to build a mosque on ground that they killed over 3000 americans, saying it in the name of a muslim faith. gimme a break and get him out of there, get the money greed, infestoring polititians out of their, that will take the crumbs off your table before they will let you feed them to your own children, this beauracratic disgusting system is making me vomit.
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I do wonder if Obama was white would all these negative comments be made. The man is trying to help the country from going down a hole, the same thing Bush should have been doing before he left office. Bush left this mess for Obama to clean up. You all are always comlaining about the amount of vacations he and his family take , well he didn't take as many as Bush and for all your complaining and bitching you really don't know where Bush was really taking all his vacations.
Why don't all you nay sayers take a real look at Bush's record before continuing to blame Obama for everthing to include your chipped nails. Bush cheated his way into the white house and lied at each step, why didn't you complain then? Enough of trying to blame Obama for all the financial misery out there. The funny thing about all this is with all the billions given to the banks and car dealers, the exectuives were still giving themselves million dollar bonuses and taking vacations on their yachts and guess what they were all white.
I seriously agree with this comment...if Obama was white this would have been a totaly different question. The real internal issue americans have is that this man is black but instead they externalize the wrong problems. untill someone comes out to talk about the real problem, there will be nothing he'll do right by americans.
Most of the problems this nation is currently experiencing were caused by Bush, it took him 8yrs to distroy what Bill Clinton had built in 8yrs, so u cannot expect obama to rebuild it in 2yrs. He is trying is best to clean up the mess George W Bush left behind. So please I am sick and tired of all this crazy accusations agains the poor man, one of you ppl can go n take his place for a day or two n see what its like to deal with y'all.
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Oh.....yes i think he is the greatest leader America will ever have. And by the way, ppl please get your facts straight.......HE IS NOT A MUSLIM!!!!!
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Oh.....yes i think he is the greatest leader America will ever have. And by the way, ppl please get your facts straight.......HE IS NOT A MUSLIM!!!!!
LOL You are funny!
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I do wonder if Obama was white would all these negative comments be made. The man is trying to help the country from going down a hole, the same thing Bush should have been doing before he left office. Bush left this mess for Obama to clean up. You all are always comlaining about the amount of vacations he and his family take , well he didn't take as many as Bush and for all your complaining and bitching you really don't know where Bush was really taking all his vacations.
Why don't all you nay sayers take a real look at Bush's record before continuing to blame Obama for everthing to include your chipped nails. Bush cheated his way into the white house and lied at each step, why didn't you complain then? Enough of trying to blame Obama for all the financial misery out there. The funny thing about all this is with all the billions given to the banks and car dealers, the exectuives were still giving themselves million dollar bonuses and taking vacations on their yachts and guess what they were all white.
I seriously agree with this comment...if Obama was white this would have been a totaly different question. The real internal issue americans have is that this man is black but instead they externalize the wrong problems. untill someone comes out to talk about the real problem, there will be nothing he'll do right by americans.
Most of the problems this nation is currently experiencing were caused by Bush, it took him 8yrs to distroy what Bill Clinton had built in 8yrs, so u cannot expect obama to rebuild it in 2yrs. He is trying is best to clean up the mess George W Bush left behind. So please I am sick and tired of all this crazy accusations agains the poor man, one of you ppl can go n take his place for a day or two n see what its like to deal with y'all.
I am a white woman married to a black man. Skin color has NOTHING to do with my distaste for obama. It has EVERYTHING to do with the truth about him!
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C'mon dude Clinton built something? He also bombed the middle east while he was in office. He, much like Obama, was pitched as a celebrity more than a president. America concentrating on entertainment more than politics, liked this.. They like Obama and Clinton for many of the same reasons. Comedians like Chris Rock even joke about Clinton being the first black president haha, a player of women and even the sax. But what exactly did Clinton do that was great? And if Bush did so much wrong, why did Obama renew the Patriot ACT? Why does he send even more people to IRAQ/Afghanistan? Why does he not only continue the Bush policy, but further the agenda by actually making it worse? These are the reas questions that dont get answered, instead we hear about Michelle and Barak on television shows, or drinking beer with a policeman. haha Focus on personal life and not the politics,just like tiger woods or some *bleep* haha. Those who really speak out against him get to be labeled racist which is a nice bonus for those trying to brainwash the masses into believing Obama is a GOOD and trustworthy politician with power.
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Obama referred to hisself as being of Muslim faith during an interview with George Stephanopoulos
which was then dismissed as a "slip up"...however, "In Arab culture and under Islamic law, if your father is a Muslim, so are you. And once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You cannot go back. In Islamic eyes, Obama is certainly a Muslim. He may think he's a Christian, but they (Arabs & Muslims) do not. His grandfather was named 'Hussein.' That is an Arabic-Muslim, NOT an African, name. Hussein was a devout Muslim and named his son, Barack Senior, 'Baraka.' Baraka is an Arabic word meaning 'blessed.' Baraka comes out of the Koran and Arabic, NOT Africa. Barack Senior was also a devoted Muslim, and also chose a Muslim name for his son, Barack Obama, Junior (current president). Again, his name was Arabic and Koranic.
In Arab culture and under Islamic law, if your father is a Muslim, so are you. Once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You cannot go back. In Islamic eyes, Obama is certainly a Muslim. He may think he's a Christian, but they (Arabs & Muslims) do not. He might say he's a Christian---there doesn't seem to be any evidence of this in his life though. There's been some speculation that very soon he will be toting a very large Bible around along with the rest of the family members to try and seem so with the next election being so close....
This is the only time you will see me 'defending' Obama. If you go to the link, you will be able to read the interview and see that the statement was a complete misunderstanding as to Obama's answering a question about the campaign. It was then, as usual, sent out all over the Internet in it's incorrect form. I am not a fan of Obama and never will be, but I am a fan of the truth. ;)
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslimfaith.asp
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I can't imagine how all of his spending will help us? Obama doesn't care if our children and grandchildren are bankrupt.
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http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon212.htm (http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon212.htm) Do some "digging", the more I've done--the more the evidence has said more muslim than Christian. (--- there are ALWAYS attempts to "explain", cover up, defend still the outright lies remain.)
Sheryl, I just realized I should have been clearer on what I was saying when I posted that link. I was only attempting to right the particular thing you had written about ie the interview with George Stephanopoulos - try writing that all your life and as a kid, whew! :P
I have done quite a bit of 'digging' myself and have very adamant thoughts/views on what Obama's true background, including religious, entails. As you said, there ARE always attempts to explain, cover, backpeddle for him. That is a driving force behind much of my mistrust of him. He is more willing to speak with terrorists than he is with the citizens of this country who are in trouble in every way possible. I hope that cleared up what I was saying.(?)
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Obama is not a leader of our country. He's a leader leading us down the road to communism. It has nothing to do with his race or color. He is an admitted Marxist, and most of the people he appointed as Czars are the same. He is spending so much money that America will never recover economically, and I think he's doing it on purpose to destroy this country and leave the pieces to be picked up by his communist regime. He is able to do this because so many people look at him as a celebrity, since they are led on like sheep by the media which adores him.