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Discussion Boards => Off-Topic => Debate & Discuss => Topic started by: aerva on September 08, 2010, 11:07:27 am
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:thumbsup: can anyone help?
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What religions interest you?
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You'll be able to find some good explanations here. Sheryl, Sherene, and Annella will be able to tell you about Christianity. Queenofnines is well versed in atheism (if you want to consider that a religion). Walksalone is Native American (although I'm sure he'll probably have a better way to describe his faith than me). I'm Jewish. You can learn much here...all you've got to do is ask. :thumbsup:
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:thumbsup: can anyone help?
What type of religion are you interested in?
I'm a recovering catholic. I couldn't deal with the all that guilt. Even when you weren't guilty you were guilty. So Ive looked into other areas of religion. Wiccan is a religion it's not a cult. It focuses more in nature & harmony. Close to the native Indian's religion into nature. What I like the most in the wiccan faith is the term " harm none." There is also another religion called the Bahi religion & it's similar to the wiccan religion in terms of harmony & caring of each other. I was drawn to these types of religion because it was more gentler & kinder than the religion I was raised in. Hope this helps.
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:thumbsup: can anyone help?
What type of religion are you interested in?
Wiccan is a religion it's not a cult. It focuses more in nature & harmony. Close to the native Indian's religion into nature. What I like the most in the wiccan faith is the term " harm none." There is also another religion called the Bahi religion & it's similar to the wiccan religion in terms of harmony & caring of each other. I was drawn to these types of religion because it was more gentler & kinder than the religion I was raised in. Hope this helps.
And what Native "religion" (there is no "Native religion" uless you
want to count the Native American Church (NAC) which is basically
christianity with feathers and peyote) there are in excess of 500
federally recognized tribes and many many more who have not yet been
given the "right" to call themselves Natives by your government surly
you dont purpose we all share all the same traditions do you? So which
Natives exactly are we talking about here and just how exactly do
their Spiritual traditions compare with Wiccan ideologies?
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You'll be able to find some good explanations here. Sheryl, Sherene, and Annella will be able to tell you about Christianity. Queenofnines is well versed in atheism (if you want to consider that a religion). Walksalone is Native American (although I'm sure he'll probably have a better way to describe his faith than me). I'm Jewish. You can learn much here...all you've got to do is ask. :thumbsup:
Amy, I appreciate your helpful intent here and your innocence in your
reply to tho OP. Please do not take my response in any personal manner
as that is most certainly not my intent.
There are hundreds of Indigenous Nations here on Turtle Island most with very different
Spiritual Traditions. Then even within some Nations you have
"Traditionals" as well as "progressives" therefore it would be
impossible to speak for them all and very disrespectful even if that
possibility did in fact exist.
I am "Traditional Tsalagi". Also I am
an activist and Warrior for the People and not a Spiritual Leader.
Then too our utmost concern as far as our traditions are, is
to respect and protect their preservation in a totally authentic
unadulterated and un-bastardized state, therefor even our "traditional"
Spiritual Leaders are very cautious of where how and to whom they
speak on the subject and never in a totally uncontrolled public forum.
Our various traditions both Spiritual and otherwise are a big part of
what makes us a unique and distinct people.
For over 500 years now there have been
ongoing serious efforts to steal from us that individuality and right
to simply just be who we are. We are the victims of such genocidal
practices as attempted extinction, forced sterilization procedures, our
children were mandated out of the home and into chrisitian residential
boarding schools right up until the 1970s where they were immediately
stripped of traditional clothes, their hair was cut short, they were
forced to assume "christian names", forbidden to speak their
traditional languages with severe beatings for minor infractions along
with being forced to kneel in a corner in a praying position all night
and many children were abused in the most inhumane despicable and
vulgar manner imaginable. There were several thousands of these
children who went off to the boarding schools and simply disappeared
and were never heard from again.
I could go on and on here and providedocumented proof of all this and much much more but Im sure youget the picture.
The point being that there have and continue to be
these and other efforts to disrespect our traditions from forced
assimilation attempts to mass murders to people telling us continually
to just get over it already or condescendingly to "get the chip off of
your shoulder". However we continue to honor our Ancestors and their
great sacrifices for steadfastly refusing to give up our identity by
continuing to protect and preserve in its pristine state our Sacred
traditions.
So far just in this thread there have been two members who
have egotistically tried to play the religious expert. one with no
knowledge and the other after a one night google party. This is the
prime way for misinformation, bastardization and out right fraudulent
attempts to deceive to occur.
Therefor I must humbly decline your
invitation to conduct any weekend warrior101 courses but thank you
much the same.
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Guess the OP wasn't as interested as they claimed........
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Guess the OP wasn't as interested as they claimed........
Or, maybe they found a cult and left FC..... ;D
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Guess the OP wasn't as interested as they claimed........
Or, maybe they found a cult and left FC..... ;D
Right...because we all joined FC to ask one question about new religions :P
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Do a search on the internet.
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Do a search on the internet.
That is an excellent way to find all the exploiters who seek to get into your pocket or perhaps some other area of your pants.....
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You'll be able to find some good explanations here. Sheryl, Sherene, and Annella will be able to tell you about Christianity. Queenofnines is well versed in atheism (if you want to consider that a religion). Walksalone is Native American (although I'm sure he'll probably have a better way to describe his faith than me). I'm Jewish. You can learn much here...all you've got to do is ask. :thumbsup:
Amy, I appreciate your helpful intent here and your innocence in your
reply to tho OP. Please do not take my response in any personal manner
as that is most certainly not my intent.
No offense here, Walks. I couldn't even begin to pretend that I understand what your people have been through, regardless of what I have studied or how much Indian blood runs through my veins (Cherokee and Apache) because I was raised in a privileged white home first in a suburb of Chicago and then in central Kentucky. Besides, I think you just did what I said above...described what you wished to of your faith and made your position known. :thumbsup:
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i dont understand how you (i dont remember who posteded but walks replied) can say theres not a native american religon.
Religion is a belief. and they believed in something. they have a major god (spirit) along with lesser spierits that impacted them. they believed they went somewhere or returned as a spirit of a tree or an animal. You should really look into it if you believe they do not have a religion. youd be surprised at what you find. :cat:
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What nation are you of? What is your clan and who are your family? As
for your suggestion I will be sure to bring it up to my tribal Elders
next saturday at the council meeting and demand they explain to me why
they have taught me wrong for the past 45 years and I had to find it
out from some chick on the internet. I feel so very lost and all alone
now....other then that I dont really think I need to check too much in
to it, I have been NDN every second of every minute of every day for
the past 45 years. I dont just play one on the internet and no, I
didnt stay at a holiday inn express last night.
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i understand religion evovles. So how much has Native American religion evolve? i mean looking up on internet does tell alot about religions but it doesnt tell how much has changed. i know in CHristianity doesnt do everything the bible says like in nolder days.