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Hello :D I'm a teen and I was thinking
some people say that liking the opposite sex is a feeling, and as we know no one can help our feelings..so therefore it should be accepted. However someone people think that it isn't a feeling and it comes from *demons* and can be fixed
Anyone care to share there feelings and debate this ;D
Me personally I'm kinda undecided )x
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This is something people are born with it is not a choice. Thank about it would you chouse something that would cause you pain all your life. Your own family kicking you out. The world thanking you are a freak. Felling is not a choice. You can do nothing about it even if you want to.
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Well, here is a link to just one of many discussions on the subject. It is 36 pages long, so this topic has definitely been debated on here before. Personally, I have said just about all I can or will on it.
http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?topic=17688.0
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well I'm sorry I'm new and I didn't know that it was....
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Hello :D I'm a teen and I was thinking
some people say that liking the opposite sex is a feeling, and as we know no one can help our feelings..so therefore it should be accepted. However someone people think that it isn't a feeling and it comes from *demons* and can be fixed
Anyone care to share there feelings and debate this ;D
Me personally I'm kinda undecided )x
this is somthing that can't be change, it's the way some people born and they have to live with it and for others to accept .....
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I disagree I do not think that homosexuailty is "natural" and a person is just "born with it"
I think that media and what a person see's as a young child is what causes that.
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I disagree I do not think that homosexuailty is "natural" and a person is just "born with it"
I think that media and what a person see's as a young child is what causes that.
So when did you choose to be heterosexual?
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I never chose anything. I'm speaking from personal experience...
Ok honestly I never told anyone this but once as a little child I saw these two women ^making out^ and no "homosexual" thoughts had ever occured to me UNTIL then.
So I blame the influence of media and such that put those ideas into the peoples head.
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I never chose anything. I'm speaking from personal experience...
Ok honestly I never told anyone this but once as a little child I saw these two women ^making out^ and no "homosexual" thoughts had ever occured to me UNTIL then.
So I blame the influence of media and such that put those ideas into the peoples head.
When did the first heterosexual thoughts occur to you? Was it before you ever saw a man and a woman kiss?
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It was that's how my parents rasied me. It's all over TV? A man and a woman kissing? That's when they occured. =/
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It was that's how my parents rasied me. It's all over TV? A man and a woman kissing? That's when they occured. =/
Then it could be possible that heterosexuality is influenced by the media as well.
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Yep that's what I think.
Basically I would say most of the word is striaght. So that's how most people are rasied..
So honestly I have no idea what makes a person either like boys or girls :3
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I didn't choose to be attracted to my husband, and the prospect of being with a female the way I am with my husband turns my stomach.
Many say we fall in love with people, so let's examine this for a minute.
A man and a woman fall in love and get married. After 30 years of marriage, the man comes to an acceptance of a turmoil he says he has felt within him his entire life, and that while he may be anatomically male, he is emotionally a female...he feels with everything in his being that he should have been born anatomically female. He opts to have a gender reassignment. This, now woman, discusses the situation with the wife. The love is still there, and the new woman still feels the same about the wife, including sexually. How is the wife to feel? Is her heterosexuality such a part of her that she cannot even consider being with this new woman the way she was with her husband, even though they are the same person? Is it wrong for to feel that she can't? So, then, is her heterosexuality a choice?
Now imagine the same situation, but with a lesbian couple and one wants gender reassignment to become anatomically male.
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I never chose anything. I'm speaking from personal experience...
Ok honestly I never told anyone this but once as a little child I saw these two women ^making out^ and no "homosexual" thoughts had ever occured to me UNTIL then.
So I blame the influence of media and such that put those ideas into the peoples head.
Sorry, just gotta dispute this, my aunt is alive and well she's 97 now! She is homosexual ,get this there was little to no media in her day, no tv,pc's, laptops.There was no household plumbing. I don't think she saw or heard anything or anyone "Making out" she just is homosexual... She stayed "in the closet till the late forty's. :)
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Homosexuality is completely natural. I assume anyone who says otherwise has not done much research on it. Normal? No. But that's not a negative trait. It's a uniqueness in nature.
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Yeah, well in some cases it can be affected by the media I think. >:o
But I just don't understand though, I mean I don't think it's natural... maybe it's from a person's experience in their life.
For instance someone said their aunt was a lesbain and shes 97? Well, maybe she had a bad accounter with men that caused her to just feel not attracted to them.
I disagree with the idea a person is just born that way, I think it's brought on by experience's throughtout life and a person's expousre to things.. media for exmaple :P
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I disagree I do not think that homosexuailty is "natural" and a person is just "born with it"
I think that media and what a person see's as a young child is what causes that.
First let me say this. I was not saying anything bad towards you when I posted that link to the other discussion and saying this topic had been discussed before. I was letting you know it had and thought maybe you, or anyone, would like to read some of what was in that one because I thought it was a great (and heated at times!) discussion.
Now, about your post above. If that is honestly how you view this and think about it, let me give you this. It has been mentioned by Amyrouse about seeing hetero couples on TV and what did that do to you. Going by what you said, that implies kids seeing drinking, smoking, drugging, shootings, robberies, anything you can put here that is also seen all over the place, literally, should then also 'influence' young people to imitate all those things too. We all know that is NOT the case, so how do you explain that? It is a known fact that a child raised by homosexual parents, 2 women or 2 men, is NOT automatically going to be homosexual. Anymore than every kid who grows up in an alcoholic or drug using environment is going to grow up to be an addict. The same equation can be put to all the other things I listed that are not considered a 'normal' way of life. I don't think what you said can actually stand up if put to the test.
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I think it's brought on by experience's throughtout life and a person's expousre to things.. media for exmaple
There's much research pointing to hormone imbalances when one is born. Granted I agree with the media being a influence (also people one hangs around with), but I highly doubt that's the reason why someone becomes a homosexual. Both of my gay friends have told me that they just slowly realized who/what they were attracted to. Understand that homosexuality is abnormal behavior because it is a kind of rarity when put up against hetero populations (I think it was estimated that 4-5% of the worlds population is gay and hasn't changed much for most of our history). Abnormalities seen in nature are not the same thing as being unnatural.
For instance someone said their aunt was a lesbain and shes 97?
I don't think she became a lesbian at 97. She has been one and is now 97; the person was just disputing that there was little/no media back then and she still realized it.
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Honestly everyone is going to have their own opinions and feelings toward this topic. SO here goes my opinion; be who you are, not what you should be, not trying to act like some media-crazed friends, not by peer pressure. Just be you. If it's gay, bi-sexual, straight, or whatever your preference of attraction is. I hope you find that somewhat helpful Cheyanne15. ;D
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I still think it's caused by the media and a person's experience. and yes the media does have a role to play in the "drinking, somking" in a person's life. If there was NO commerical's about beer and NO commericals about smoking and if thefactories just STOPED making those products then the new born babies in the world will have no exposure to that resulting in them not partaking n it so yes the media does play a role in it. Ok so I have no idea how ol you people are but I think that my generation is becoming "bisexual" just to fit in with the crowd! My one frien now says see is bi becase our other friend is :/
Yes I know she said her aunt was 97 and a lesbain and I got her point. That there was not much media in those times, and to that I stated its not ALL about media but a person's personal life experience.
I person is not innate (born with) or have any "horomones" that they are going to be a homo! I just refuse to believe it, it doesn't make any sense =/
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I still think it's caused by the media and a person's experience. and yes the media does have a role to play in the "drinking, somking" in a person's life. If there was NO commerical's about beer and NO commericals about smoking and if thefactories just STOPED making those products then the new born babies in the world will have no exposure to that resulting in them not partaking n it so yes the media does play a role in it. Ok so I have no idea how ol you people are but I think that my generation is becoming "bisexual" just to fit in with the crowd! My one frien now says see is bi becase our other friend is :/
Yes I know she said her aunt was 97 and a lesbain and I got her point. That there was not much media in those times, and to that I stated its not ALL about media but a person's personal life experience.
I person is not innate (born with) or have any "horomones" that they are going to be a homo! I just refuse to believe it, it doesn't make any sense =/
But it makes more sense that a person would choose that life, many breaking their parents' hearts, being subjected to some of the worst discrimination rampant in our times, worrying that someone would beat them up or worse kill them, kick them down stairs at school, call them all kinds of assorted names, being blamed for the spread of diseases like AIDS or even dealing with some whack jobs like Robertson and Falwell saying that g-d allowed 9/11 to happen because of gays? That makes no sense period.
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If there was NO commerical's about beer and NO commericals about smoking and if thefactories just STOPED making those products then the new born babies in the world will have no exposure to that resulting in them not partaking n it so yes the media does play a role in it.
With this train of thought, we should ban everything because it can influence anything! You can't really blame the media on something like this. It's much more personal than commercialism and tv shows. It's like saying "The Columbine kids did what they did because they played DOOM 2 too much!". I will say that a show may comfort an individual to accept who he/she is, but that is far from the cause of being homosexual.
My one frien now says she is bi becase our other friend is
So you know 2 women that are doing the bi thing, correct? How many friends would you say you have that are straight? From what I've seen, the HS or early college years bisexual thing is not uncommon. I've seen many more women do the bi thing than guys. All of them are dating or are married to a guy now.
person is not innate (born with) or have any "horomones" that they are going to be a homo! I just refuse to believe it, it doesn't make any sense
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_hormones_and_sexual_orientation
Fetal hormones may be seen as either the primary influence upon adult sexual orientation or as a co-factor interacting with genes and/or environmental and social conditions
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Actually, homosexuality is very natural. Did you know that angels are both male and female? I bet you don't even believe in angels. If you read the bible for understanding, it clearly states in Genesis (look for it) that God created man in his own image, he created them "Male and Female" and named "them" Adam. We all are what He created and He created US in His image. We should try accepting people as we would have them accept us regardless of what we identify ourselves as.
I am I, and You are You, I am not in this world to live up to your expectations and you are not here to live up to mine. I am I and You are You, and if by chance we find each other, its beautiful. Edward S. Pearls :notworthy:
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To me, whether its a feeling born with or its a feeling that generally comes about, it shouldn't matter. It should be ones own personal issue if they choose to be with someone of the same sex. With all the bigger issues going on in this world, I dont understand why two people loving each other (that just happen to be of the same sex) is made into such a big deal.
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Actually, homosexuality is very natural. Did you know that angels are both male and female? I bet you don't even believe in angels. If you read the bible for understanding, it clearly states in Genesis (look for it) that God created man in his own image, he created them "Male and Female" and named "them" Adam. We all are what He created and He created US in His image. We should try accepting people as we would have them accept us regardless of what we identify ourselves as.
I am I, and You are You, I am not in this world to live up to your expectations and you are not here to live up to mine. I am I and You are You, and if by chance we find each other, its beautiful. Edward S. Pearls :notworthy:
Okay, Cheyenne, just ignore all that junk!God has nothing to do with it, its in our nature to choose what we prefer, and who we are attracted to. If you like women, do not be ashamed of how you feel, women are beautiful creatures. And if you like men, thats wonderful to, everyone has their own feelings of what will satisfy them for a mate!!!!!
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It is a feeling and it can't be controlled or fixed. Homosexual people can like or love whoever they want and nobody should tell them otherwise. If it's against you're religion or something then conversion might be wise, but other than that it should be allowed.
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It's normal but some people don't want to believe it is and one of the reasons realy because people get brain washed from the day they are born to only follow certain sets of rules in this world.
They love to blame everything on god, fast to say will the bible said umm... umm... umm and they dont even know what they are talking about.
the problem is people are so jugemental and love to use the word not normal to describe someone else but never to point it
at themselves because as we all know in fantasy world people that point their fingers at everybody else are always so perfect lol ya right.
I have wrote about this subject plenty more and elaberated much more in another discussion on here under a different post ,so it interested in more about this subject there is more on here about it.
Go to my profile and search my posts I have another realy good reply on this subject that might be interesting to some.