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So I have come to the conclusion that the real God, couldn't and wouldn't put anyone in hell. If God could and would subject his own creations to this torment then why like him period?
Heaven is going to be miserable with this God in charge because someone's relative is gonna be upset that they are burning in hell.
I believe there still is a GOd but like Zeus and all the other God's before this current popular God needs to go on the shelf.
What are your thoughts on this man made monster throwing people in hell for eternity?
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Glad you see this, i've tried showing people Acts 24:15 and the resurrection of Lazarus but people just don't want to hear it and flat out ignore it. I'm well aware of the fiery torment imagery in the bible but it just contradicts scripture too much to be literal.
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Well, I personally believe there is a literal hell. After all where were Satan and his angels cast down to after being thrown from heaven? Hell was created for him, not human beings. I think that people put too much emphasis on hell when the KJV mentions hell a total of 54 times and the word love and it's other forms (loves, loved etc) appears 554.
Love wins.
However, I do not believe that every single person goes to heaven. God didn't come to judge the world but to save it, that's scripture and I believe it. But if a person is rejecting that salvation, in what sense do they make it to heaven?
Sin cannot enter the kingdom. How does anyone go there then since we all sin? Believing in Christ and his perfect sacrifice right? If you don't believe and you sin (which we all do) how do you enter the kingdom?
A person will not go to hell just because they don't believe it exists. So I'm not trying to argue that point, it just makes no sense to think that given the fact the only way to salvation is accepting Christ so as to be cleansed of sin, you can somehow enter the presence of God and not ever have accepted the gift of salvation. If we are justified by faith, how can someone of no faith in God be justified in his sight?
BUT, no matter who you are, no matter what your life has been like, no matter what horrible things you have done, no matter how much money you make, no matter how pretty or unattractive, no matter your color, your country, or your creed, Christ died for EVERYONE and God loves you.
That's how love wins. It conquers sin, it conquers hell, and it is unconditional. Does a God who loves his creation want them in hell? No. But if you reject his love, how can he save you?
That's not a monster in my opinion. That's a God worth living my life for. Because he isn't fair. If he was fair, then we all deserve to burn in hell. But he isn't fair he is merciful and his hand of mercy is outstretched to anyone who wants to take it.
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I think hell is the Life you live.When we die we rest,so it's like heaven.Hell is the life we go threw.Why wouldn't God send anyone to hell,some of these people in this world are cold heart mindless fools.They ruin *bleep* for us good people when the Gods look at us.So as people of God,we take punishment for others.Life comes an goes for us.Gods live forever.
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Well I think it's funny you call God Man made and that This God you speak of wouldn't throw anyone in hell. The Holy Bible was written in 3 original languages Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. The funny thing is when you talk about other religions and other Gods such as Zues and what not They were made after the bible was written.
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Well I think it's funny you call God Man made and that This God you speak of wouldn't throw anyone in hell. The Holy Bible was written in 3 original languages Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. The funny thing is when you talk about other religions and other Gods such as Zues and what not They were made after the bible was written.
No, the 'funny thing' actually is that you are 100% wrong in what you said above.
"when you talk about other religions and other Gods such as Zues and what not They were made after the bible was written" Wow, seriously?! I hate to break it to you, but the Greek and Roman gods date many years BC (as in Before Christ) and the first known Bible to be written was in the 1380's, by John Wycliffe. In case you are confused, 1380 is AD (anno Domini) after the birth of Christ; in the year of our lord.
Yet another amazing piece of Christianity laying claim to all in existence? :dontknow:
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Yes, I believe there is a hell and yes I believe people are in it. However, I believe God doesn't "throw" people into hell. The people themselves put themselves there. The way I see it, we are not capable of knowing God on our own because he is absolutely above our understanding. But, with His help, he enlightens our mind by sending us His Holy Spirit so we can know Him and develop a relationship with Him. I believe hell is when we deliberately, consciously, and knowingly refuse to let in. If we shut Him out, he cannot help us because we need Him, and in fact, were created to be with Him. So if we die without any capabilities to "see" and know God - due to the fact that we have simply refused to allow God to transform, then we can only go to hell because our souls have no supernatural capability of being with the supernatural, namely, God Himself. This is what I believe hell is. It is a state of being without the presence of God after death. However, heaven is the direct opposite. It is the state of being, after death where we are with God forever, and ever. Amen. God bless you.
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Yes, I believe there is a hell and yes I believe people are in it. However, I believe God doesn't "throw" people into hell. The people themselves put themselves there. The way I see it, we are not capable of knowing God on our own because he is absolutely above our understanding. But, with His help, he enlightens our mind by sending us His Holy Spirit so we can know Him and develop a relationship with Him. I believe hell is when we deliberately, consciously, and knowingly refuse to let in. If we shut Him out, he cannot help us because we need Him, and in fact, were created to be with Him. So if we die without any capabilities to "see" and know God - due to the fact that we have simply refused to allow God to transform, then we can only go to hell because our souls have no supernatural capability of being with the supernatural, namely, God Himself. This is what I believe hell is. It is a state of being without the presence of God after death. However, heaven is the direct opposite. It is the state of being, after death where we are with God forever, and ever. Amen. God bless you.
Ugh I can't take this interchange or soul and spirit and being all the time. I think i'm going to make a bible grammar topic just so I and those who are non christians can follow. Anyway can you tell me what perish means? According to American Heritage this is the definition below
to die or be destroyed through violence, privation, etc.: to perish in an earthquake.
What does John 3:16 say?
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(KJV)
Now do you perish or fry if you don't believe in Jesus?
P.S. The definition of death is STOP LIVING not keep living.
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What are your thoughts on this man made monster throwing people in hell for eternity?
Any way you look at it, this god (at the foundation) is evil. People tend to get away with so much cleverly-worded touchy-feely nonsense that seems so profound on the surface but totally empty at the core that it's as funny as it is sad. So those are my thoughts, Marie. I laugh at the reasoning and sadly cry at how it still has our culture by it's *bleep*.
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So I have come to the conclusion that the real God, couldn't and wouldn't put anyone in hell. If God could and would subject his own creations to this torment then why like him period?
Heaven is going to be miserable with this God in charge because someone's relative is gonna be upset that they are burning in hell.
I believe there still is a GOd but like Zeus and all the other God's before this current popular God needs to go on the shelf.
What are your thoughts on this man made monster throwing people in hell for eternity?
GOD does not put anyone in hell, HE sent HIS only SON so that we would not go to hell.
tell me why HE would send HIS SON to die for us, so we can continue to live like hell after we know HIM?
we put our self in hell by the stupid choices we make... because GOD gave us freewill.
HE gave us the ability to think. HE gave us authority over the earth, but we have abused
all of HIS gifts even the gift of HIS SON who died for our sin. Did aeus rise from the grave, heal the sick, raise the dead,
create anything? No. GOD has give us a BOOK that is alive and HE lives in it... our problem is most of us think we are to
smart to read it... why don't you try reading it before you scorn GOD.
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tell me why HE would send HIS SON to die for us, so we can continue to live like hell after we know HIM?
There is a human desire to make the hero into a larger than life figure, and to shroud the various aspects of their life in meaning. Since chances are, in a society that passes stories along by oral tradition, there is a value placed on the creativity of a story teller, otherwise mundane aspects of life are likely to be embellished, especially if the true details of that aspect of a life have been lost.
http://www.tam-lin.org/abby/raglan.html
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We're born into it...we're safe when we die.
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Hades the god of the underworld will for sure put you in hell.
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Hades the god of the underworld will for sure put you in hell.
And Cthulhu's minions will torture you as you wait to be forced into his mouth and digested. Sorry, but it's the TRUTH! The Necronomicon says so!
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There is NO contridiction in God's Holy Word, only in man's mind and interpretations. Truly study the Word and it will surprise all of the non-believers! Too much facts not to be true. I guess we'll all see in the end....I'm glad I'll be on Jesus' side!
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There is NO contridiction in God's Holy Word, only in man's mind and interpretations. Truly study the Word and it will surprise all of the non-believers! Too much facts not to be true. I guess we'll all see in the end....I'm glad I'll be on Jesus' side!
Wow. It's looks like someone never opened their bible! Ever!
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Well my thought is that God Himself says people will sent to hell. Read any of the Gospel accounts and you hear Jesus saying it over and over again. However, God does not will this. Everyone is given enough grace in this world to get to heaven. It is the individual person who chooses to do God's will or not. God respects the person's choice, but continues to give the person an opportunity to repent and follow Him, to come to a deeper experience and relationship with Him everyday of the person's life. If that person, through their own choice, reject's God throughout life, God will be a just judge, but this is absolutely not what God wants. He sent is only begotten Son, Jesus, to be crucified and die for your and my sins. Believe me He loves us all, each, more than anyone (dad, mom, brother, sister, spouse, child) ever could. God loves us and desire us to be with Him. Let us accept this as our role. Actually, that is why God created us, to be in union with Him. It is only after Adam and Eve sinned that we were sent out of communion with God. That is why He sent Jesus, to save us.
Christ is Risen!
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God loves his creations and he wants them to be happy god doesn't put anyone in hell they put themselfs in hell.
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I myself don't think that hell is a pit of fire. It's just a place where people's souls go and suffer for all the wrong they have done. Of course, they'll be there for all eternity if they don't repent and change their ways before they die. That's my way of looking at it anyways.
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no god dont put you in hell you put yourself there by comitting the sins you have committed
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Well I think it's funny you call God Man made and that This God you speak of wouldn't throw anyone in hell. The Holy Bible was written in 3 original languages Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. The funny thing is when you talk about other religions and other Gods such as Zues and what not They were made after the bible was written.
Thank you appreciate your input... there are so many on this system that think they are GOD, really strange beliefs. We must be light even if it is only a speck here an a speck there. thanks again.
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Well my thought is that God Himself says people will sent to hell. Read any of the Gospel accounts and you hear Jesus saying it over and over again. However, God does not will this. Everyone is given enough grace in this world to get to heaven. It is the individual person who chooses to do God's will or not. God respects the person's choice, but continues to give the person an opportunity to repent and follow Him, to come to a deeper experience and relationship with Him everyday of the person's life. If that person, through their own choice, reject's God throughout life, God will be a just judge, but this is absolutely not what God wants. He sent is only begotten Son, Jesus, to be crucified and die for your and my sins. Believe me He loves us all, each, more than anyone (dad, mom, brother, sister, spouse, child) ever could. God loves us and desire us to be with Him. Let us accept this as our role. Actually, that is why God created us, to be in union with Him. It is only after Adam and Eve sinned that we were sent out of communion with God. That is why He sent Jesus, to save us.
Christ is Risen!
Actually if you look into the words Hades and Gehenna you'll get an entirely different viewpoint.
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But the DEVIL will.
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But the DEVIL will.
Ooga Booga!
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i believe the only reason that person wrote the BIBLE did it for one reason and one reason only to make money off people who will believe in anything
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God gives man a freewill ~ to believe in Him or not. You had better study up 'cause everyone will have to give an account for their life on the Great Judgement Day.
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i believe the only reason that person wrote the BIBLE did it for one reason and one reason only to make money off people who will believe in anything
FYI - The Bible has one Great Author, God, but the compliation was written by actual people living in the time with insight from God to instruct mankind of the way of truth & righteousness. There are many saints and prophets that contributed to the Holy Bible by the Divine Guidance.
I do pray for your family's sake that you will have an open mind and read God's Word or attend a gospel preaching church. If you need a Bible, the Guideons give away thousands of free Bibles every day. No cost to you. I have supported their cause for many years now. True Christians don't try to get rich off of God. Unfortunately, satan has too much free space here on earth for the time being.....
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I do pray for your family's sake that you will have an open mind and read God's Word or attend a gospel preaching church.
Does not compute. Are you threatening his family or something? I don't get it. Think about what you said here. If you were to say study ALL religions, that would make sense.
True Christians don't try to get rich off of God.
And we've seen truckloads of 'em talk the talk but not walk the walk. It's very few and far that you'll find one that actually does what Jesus wanted.
"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God." Matt 19:24
They don't follow Jesus. They follow Republican Jesus.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LQCKQgH3O1o/TVMsM-Upy2I/AAAAAAAAAcU/SOpy_OczYOI/s400/republican_jesus_sml.gif)
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You wouldn't burn your child if he made a mistake. Why would a loving God (which the Bible shows him to be) burn humans who he knows are imperfect at the moment, and who are only able to make about 100 years of mistakes right now, why would he burn them forever?
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the bible was witten by man, period
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God doesn't "Put you through hell" And he doesn't "send people to hell"..
Whether or not you go to hell is your choice.
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God doesn't "Put you through hell" And he doesn't "send people to hell"..
Whether or not you go to hell is your choice.
you are right, our own free choice puts us in hell... we can choose light or darkness... children of light stay away from the darkness and this world is very dark. children of darkness stay away from the light.
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So I have come to the conclusion that the real God, couldn't and wouldn't put anyone in hell. If God could and would subject his own creations to this torment then why like him period?
Heaven is going to be miserable with this God in charge because someone's relative is gonna be upset that they are burning in hell.
I believe there still is a GOd but like Zeus and all the other God's before this current popular God needs to go on the shelf.
What are your thoughts on this man made monster throwing people in hell for eternity?
GOD does not put anyone in hell, HE sent HIS only SON so that we would not go to hell.
tell me why HE would send HIS SON to die for us, so we can continue to live like hell after we know HIM?
we put our self in hell by the stupid choices we make... because GOD gave us freewill.
HE gave us the ability to think. HE gave us authority over the earth, but we have abused
all of HIS gifts even the gift of HIS SON who died for our sin. Did aeus rise from the grave, heal the sick, raise the dead,
create anything? No. GOD has give us a BOOK that is alive and HE lives in it... our problem is most of us think we are to
smart to read it... why don't you try reading it before you scorn GOD.
I agree with you 100 Percent !
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there is no hell just like there is no heaven. well not the place anyways
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Christ will say to those who rejected him "depart from me you cursed, into everlasting fire (hell) prepared for the devil and his angels.
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God loves all his children but some have not done what they were are told to do to go home and live with Him there.
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Well The Hell that is spoken in the KJ is the one after armaggdon, gehenna that is the death of no resurrection, it is were after 1000 region of christ after all those who surive the great war between God the Almighty, and Satan, and the ones on Gods side are save and make the earth, "meaning mankind in to a physical paradise, because before the great war Gods people are already enjoying a spritiual paradise. These and the ones in the memorial tombs or sheol hebrew word for hell, and hadees for the greek word for hell, and translated hell is mankinds grave, Ec 9:5 says there is no more wages, no pain no thinking in for the place your are going into sheol, so in jesus time a man name lazerous was rasied from the grave, or hell and did it mention any burning there no, so this means the second death of after christ is king of the kingdom of God his father. That is because 1000 years the one who surive the great war will have to teach the resurrection ones the truth, then when that is done the whole earth is a spritual and phyical paradise is fulfilled then Satan will be let loose from the abyss to mislead again then God will say enough and he will toss satan and those who fellow into gehanna or hell which burns night and day and that is were their nashing of the teeth will be. Jesus on earth said he had two folds of sheep the little folk as is founded as the slave class, their number is this founded in Rev 14:1. The other folk is in Rev 7:9 is called the "Great Crowd "Because I know that God is Love and that Love was noted in John 3:16 For God loved the "world" so much he gave us his only begotten "son" to die for us in order for us to live. "Jesus" is his son, and even his son was in hell for 3 days he bought the keys of sheol and hadees or the keys of hell. That is why Romas 5:28.29 says do not marvel at this in the hour of resurrection all rightous to life those to wickness to judgement, the 1000 years the wicket will have a chance that is why it means resurrection to judgement. if they don't adhear to God then they go to second death mean the gehenna no return.
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However, I do not believe that every single person goes to heaven. God didn't come to judge the world but to save it, that's scripture and I believe it. But if a person is rejecting that salvation, in what sense do they make it to heaven?
That's how love wins. It conquers sin, it conquers hell, and it is unconditional. Does a God who loves his creation want them in hell? No. But if you reject his love, how can he save you?
What about people who have never heard about Jesus? Or people who lived before Jesus? Surely they are not rejecting Him because they don't believe.
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Christ will say to those who rejected him "depart from me you cursed, into everlasting fire (hell) prepared for the devil and his angels.
when will you people stop this..THERE IS NO GOD JUST LIKE THERE IS NO SATAN..PERIOD
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Well The Hell that is spoken in the KJ is the one after armaggdon, gehenna that is the death of no resurrection, it is were after 1000 region of christ after all those who surive the great war between God the Almighty, and Satan, and the ones on Gods side are save and make the earth, "meaning mankind in to a physical paradise, because before the great war Gods people are already enjoying a spritiual paradise. These and the ones in the memorial tombs or sheol hebrew word for hell, and hadees for the greek word for hell, and translated hell is mankinds grave, Ec 9:5 says there is no more wages, no pain no thinking in for the place your are going into sheol, so in jesus time a man name lazerous was rasied from the grave, or hell and did it mention any burning there no, so this means the second death of after christ is king of the kingdom of God his father. That is because 1000 years the one who surive the great war will have to teach the resurrection ones the truth, then when that is done the whole earth is a spritual and phyical paradise is fulfilled then Satan will be let loose from the abyss to mislead again then God will say enough and he will toss satan and those who fellow into gehanna or hell which burns night and day and that is were their nashing of the teeth will be. Jesus on earth said he had two folds of sheep the little folk as is founded as the slave class, their number is this founded in Rev 14:1. The other folk is in Rev 7:9 is called the "Great Crowd "Because I know that God is Love and that Love was noted in John 3:16 For God loved the "world" so much he gave us his only begotten "son" to die for us in order for us to live. "Jesus" is his son, and even his son was in hell for 3 days he bought the keys of sheol and hadees or the keys of hell. That is why Romas 5:28.29 says do not marvel at this in the hour of resurrection all rightous to life those to wickness to judgement, the 1000 years the wicket will have a chance that is why it means resurrection to judgement. if they don't adhear to God then they go to second death mean the gehenna no return.
did you notice who who said the auther of the bible is King James. No where does it say the auther is JESUS or GOD. so get off your high horse and join the rest of us
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If you want to know about heaven and hell you need to read Luke 16:19-31. If you do not from your wicked ways and ask the lord to come into your life you will surely burn forever in Hell. But if you ask Jesus into your life and turn from your wicked ways. And ask him to forgive you and confess your sins. When it is your time to be taken from this earth you will live forever with our Lord and Savior in Heaven.
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If you want to know about heaven and hell you need to read Luke 16:19-31. If you do not from your wicked ways and ask the lord to come into your life you will surely burn forever in Hell. But if you ask Jesus into your life and turn from your wicked ways. And ask him to forgive you and confess your sins. When it is your time to be taken from this earth you will live forever with our Lord and Savior in Heaven.
if you believe in God or not you will either will be going to either heaven or hell when you die. When you die you will have to face God as your judge and he will look in a book that will have everything that you ever did in it. If you accept Jesus as your Lord and savior, Jesus wipes your name from that book and write it in book life. Only the ones in the book of life will be able to enter heaven gate.
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Wow I mean arent you adults!!! Why do you think that stuff isnt allowed in schools???? Cause its all false!!! No fact!!!! Jesus was a real person but thats it, A PERSON with a real mother and a real human father just like me and you!!! He just needed alot of attention and just wanted to be remembered!!!!! Any educated person knows that the universe was not created in 7 days and the universe is not 6 thousand years old( as said in the bible)! Theuniverse is almost 15 billion years old and I mean jesus himself didnt even believe in a religion til he met john the baptist and the bible describes john the baptist as a crazy wildman in the woods alone who only eats locusts!!! Yuck!!!! So really all this religious beliefs came from a crazy wildman who ate locusts and lived alone in the woods 2000 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just start watching some science channel instead of the usual cult T.V. and you will see its just a myth, a story, and nothing else!!!! Sorry to burst your bubble!!!!!!
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And back then people really did believe in this kinda thing but today these churches just want to be heard and get your money!!! Nothing more!!!! Its all a hoax when you see people fainting on T.V. with just the touch of a guy whose not magical or has any powers, no the people fainting are in on it just like the magicians partner faking in the audience!!!!! Its just for the kids like santa clause or the easter bunny!!!! Never wiil it be taught in schools though cause the government knows thats wrong to teach things that arent real and true!!!!!!!
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And back then people really did believe in this kinda thing but today these churches just want to be heard and get your money!!! Nothing more!!!! Its all a hoax when you see people fainting on T.V. with just the touch of a guy whose not magical or has any powers, no the people fainting are in on it just like the magicians partner faking in the audience!!!!! Its just for the kids like santa clause or the easter bunny!!!! Never wiil it be taught in schools though cause the government knows thats wrong to teach things that arent real and true!!!!!!!
that's what ive been saying for years, only you put it better then i could hats off to you
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Thanx Bud, I got alot of practice on the subject cause I argue daily with my mother who, you guessed it, is religious!! I try and try to teach her how things really arent just created from some magical all mighty being but from Real processes that are so much more amazing than the bible could ever describe!!!! And I show her all the descrepencies in the book and how so many things it says are just plain made up!!!! its a never ending battle!!! But hey, thank goodness for people like us who havent gone completely mad!!!! ;D :wave: :wave:
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Wow I mean arent you adults!!! Why do you think that stuff isnt allowed in schools???? Cause its all false!!! No fact!!!! Jesus was a real person but thats it, A PERSON with a real mother and a real human father just like me and you!!! He just needed alot of attention and just wanted to be remembered!!!!! Any educated person knows that the universe was not created in 7 days and the universe is not 6 thousand years old( as said in the bible)! Theuniverse is almost 15 billion years old and I mean jesus himself didnt even believe in a religion til he met john the baptist and the bible describes john the baptist as a crazy wildman in the woods alone who only eats locusts!!! Yuck!!!! So really all this religious beliefs came from a crazy wildman who ate locusts and lived alone in the woods 2000 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just start watching some science channel instead of the usual cult T.V. and you will see its just a myth, a story, and nothing else!!!! Sorry to burst your bubble!!!!!!
Jesus was a real person, He was born of a virgin. This is how it happen, the angel Gabriel went to Nazareth to the town of Galilee to a virgin, Mary, told her God found favor in her. Basically the holy spirit came upon her and she was with child but she never knew a human man. When he was 12 years old he listen to the elders but he also answered questions that only some one that that of his age would not know. He was very wise for his age because he was his father's son, God's Son. When you talk about John the baptist, John said "I am not Christ, but I am sent ahead of him." God did create the earth in 6 days but the 7h day he rested. What is one day for God could be 1000's of days for us. We do not know God's time line.
When you die and you meet your maker, God, and if you have not accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior who can wipe away your sins who is like your lawyer on the day of your judgement. Then you will surely go to hell. If you do accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and ask him for forgiveness of your sins then you will live forever in heaven with Him.
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Jesus was a real person, He was born of a virgin
Does any reasonable person have to read beyond this point in the above post?
http://www.tam-lin.org/abby/raglan.html
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Well, I personally believe there is a literal hell. After all where were Satan and his angels cast down to after being thrown from heaven? Hell was created for him, not human beings. I think that people put too much emphasis on hell when the KJV mentions hell a total of 54 times and the word love and it's other forms (loves, loved etc) appears 554.
Love wins.
However, I do not believe that every single person goes to heaven. God didn't come to judge the world but to save it, that's scripture and I believe it. But if a person is rejecting that salvation, in what sense do they make it to heaven?
Sin cannot enter the kingdom. How does anyone go there then since we all sin? Believing in Christ and his perfect sacrifice right? If you don't believe and you sin (which we all do) how do you enter the kingdom?
A person will not go to hell just because they don't believe it exists. So I'm not trying to argue that point, it just makes no sense to think that given the fact the only way to salvation is accepting Christ so as to be cleansed of sin, you can somehow enter the presence of God and not ever have accepted the gift of salvation. If we are justified by faith, how can someone of no faith in God be justified in his sight?
BUT, no matter who you are, no matter what your life has been like, no matter what horrible things you have done, no matter how much money you make, no matter how pretty or unattractive, no matter your color, your country, or your creed, Christ died for EVERYONE and God loves you.
That's how love wins. It conquers sin, it conquers hell, and it is unconditional. Does a God who loves his creation want them in hell? No. But if you reject his love, how can he save you?
That's not a monster in my opinion. That's a God worth living my life for. Because he isn't fair. If he was fair, then we all deserve to burn in hell. But he isn't fair he is merciful and his hand of mercy is outstretched to anyone who wants to take it.
Amen! :-) Words WELL spoken.
From,
Your sister in Christ
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:-O :-O :-O a bit shocked at what's being said in here. ppl condemn their own selves to hell by not accepting jesus it's their own fault. and as for things magically appearing, that's the way evolution explains it.. which is ridiculous- in the beginning GOD created the heavens and the earth
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God doesn't "Put you through hell" And he doesn't "send people to hell"..
Whether or not you go to hell is your choice.
But who in their right mind would choose to go to Hell?
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So I have come to the conclusion that the real God, couldn't and wouldn't put anyone in hell. If God could and would subject his own creations to this torment then why like him period?
Heaven is going to be miserable with this God in charge because someone's relative is gonna be upset that they are burning in hell.
I believe there still is a GOd but like Zeus and all the other God's before this current popular God needs to go on the shelf.
What are your thoughts on this man made monster throwing people in hell for eternity?
I can't agree with that at all I believe i'ts possible.
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Wow I mean arent you adults!!! Why do you think that stuff isnt allowed in schools???? Cause its all false!!! No fact!!!! Jesus was a real person but thats it, A PERSON with a real mother and a real human father just like me and you!!! He just needed alot of attention and just wanted to be remembered!!!!! Any educated person knows that the universe was not created in 7 days and the universe is not 6 thousand years old( as said in the bible)! Theuniverse is almost 15 billion years old and I mean jesus himself didnt even believe in a religion til he met john the baptist and the bible describes john the baptist as a crazy wildman in the woods alone who only eats locusts!!! Yuck!!!! So really all this religious beliefs came from a crazy wildman who ate locusts and lived alone in the woods 2000 years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just start watching some science channel instead of the usual cult T.V. and you will see its just a myth, a story, and nothing else!!!! Sorry to burst your bubble!!!!!!
Jesus was a real person, He was born of a virgin. This is how it happen, the angel Gabriel went to Nazareth to the town of Galilee to a virgin, Mary, told her God found favor in her. Basically the holy spirit came upon her and she was with child but she never knew a human man. When he was 12 years old he listen to the elders but he also answered questions that only some one that that of his age would not know. He was very wise for his age because he was his father's son, God's Son. When you talk about John the baptist, John said "I am not Christ, but I am sent ahead of him." God did create the earth in 6 days but the 7h day he rested. What is one day for God could be 1000's of days for us. We do not know God's time line.
When you die and you meet your maker, God, and if you have not accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior who can wipe away your sins who is like your lawyer on the day of your judgement. Then you will surely go to hell. If you do accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior and ask him for forgiveness of your sins then you will live forever in heaven with Him.
And how would anyone know if she realy was a virgin? What if this woman was raped and just couldnt bare to tell anyone so she lied to everyone, even her child!!!! And if she was a virgin, so what!!!! cause thats a natural thing for a woman to give birth without having sexual intercourse! Very rare but in those times it would have been called a miracle and they would all believe he was the son of a god to have a virgin mother! But really there is cases where extremely high doses of calcium in women will cause a birth consisting of 23 chromosomes from a cell and another 23 chromosomes from another cell in the mother, thus creating 46 chromosomes!!! The child will have almost 100 percent traits of the mother!!!! Not saying this is what happened in the case of the virgin mary but if this did happen 2000 years ago than surely it would be claimed as a miracle!!!! The child being told his whole life he is special and maybe told he was the son of a god!!! There was so much superstition in those times it was unbelieveable!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway if you payed attention to your history you would know that its a proven fact that jesus was not a miracle man and he would send people ahead of him to villages to await his arrival and be a secret assistant to him!!! I have seen this on THE HISTORY CHANNEL!!! And this is no lie!!!!! They would ask people "Have you heard of the son of god? The miracle man Jesus?" He had some guys pretend to be ill or blind and then fake being healed at the touch of his hand!!!! It was all a very elaborate Hoax and just maybe the biggest Hoax EVER!!!!!! It has lasted over 2000 years and I see no sign of people learning the truth!!! :bootyshake: :bootyshake: :angel12: :angel12:
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God does not put anyone in Hell. He made a way for everyone to be saved when he died on the cross for the sins of the world. But he gives man a free will to accept his salvation or to reject it. You decide your own destiny by the choice you make. And as far as those people who believe they will get to Heaven because of being a "good person" I am sorry to tell you that you are wrong. No man is worthy to enter into Heaven because of his own good works. The Bible says that man's righteousness(goodness) is like filthy rags in the eyes of God. It is not what we do that will get us to Heaven but is what He did at Calvary when he shed his blood for the sins of man. He was sinless himself, yet he took upon himself our sins and paid the price for our sins that we might be saved!! Hallelujah!!
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God does not put anyone in Hell. He made a way for everyone to be saved when he died on the cross for the sins of the world. But he gives man a free will to accept his salvation or to reject it. You decide your own destiny by the choice you make
So how does an all-knowing god allow for free will when the god already knows the future of everything? By default there is no freewill if he is that powerful.
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It's up to the Almighty who the Almighty puts in Hell, I have no clue, I just hope I don't end up there... :angel12:
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Touchy subject. :peace: :heart: I totally believe, and I believe everyone should believe in something. Whether it be God, Allah, or whoever.