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When will the American people say to our elected government that enough over seas spending is enough. How many of us are willing to write our elected officials or call their office and say enough is enough. If every voter would do this they would have to stop the spending.
When my ex was in the navy and I could not get a straight answer from the chain of command that I was suppose to go through I called the pentagon and got results from my inquiries. Some times it is better to start at the top and work out way down the ladder. If enough Americans would start questioning their elected officials things would start changing especially in an election year.
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I totally agree. We have set back and watch them destroy our nation. They have voted themselves raises while our employers say no, they have an retirement program that no company could afford, and then they demand to get free services from businesses. The few that are trying to make a difference are being drowned out by the media.
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:- I start from the top nad they pass it down to the bottom. The thing about the goverment is NO one wants to accept responsiblity :angry7: they PASS the BUCK!!! I'm ex military
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When my ex was in the navy and I could not get a straight answer from the chain of command that I was suppose to go through I called the pentagon and got results from my inquiries.
Side note, this didn't get your spouse in trouble? I always hear how when spouses get involved then it really makes you as the military member look bad then you end up paying for it :wave:
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When my ex was in the navy and I could not get a straight answer from the chain of command that I was suppose to go through I called the pentagon and got results from my inquiries.
Side note, this didn't get your spouse in trouble? I always hear how when spouses get involved then it really makes you as the military member look bad then you end up paying for it :wave:
That's generally true, depending upon the nature of the situation. The OP didn't specify what her inquiry concerned however, specific deployment details during combat operations are usually classified - along with details concerning such operations, (for instance). Whatever the exact situation her inquiries involved, bypassing the chain of command doesn't mean the the chain of command will bypass the military member, (crap flows downhill).
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I have long been to the point of 'spending' in general is enough. Spend some time watching the debt clock and you might agree with me.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Find some people to elect into office that can get this monstrosity spinning in the other direction (without them stealing even more money from me) and they will most likely get my votes.
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I have long been to the point of 'spending' in general is enough. Spend some time watching the debt clock and you might agree with me.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Find some people to elect into office that can get this monstrosity spinning in the other direction (without them stealing even more money from me) and they will most likely get my votes.
The spending by our elected officials has been out of control for a very long time but must be stopped! The USA is going bankrupt and we are being laughed at by other countries because we are stupid enough to keep giving them money when we are in such bad shape ourselves. As far as electing an honest politician, I'm not sure that is possible. They may go in thinking they will get things back in shape but before you know it they are running around with their hands out too. I think all levels of elected politicians should have term limits and if Obama Care goes fully inforce, then I think all our elected officials should have to go with it too. It is not right for them and large companies like McDonalds to receive exempt status from something they helped create. I just think we are all doomed if we let our officials carry on with business-as-usual.
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We are already trillions in debt and the government still continues to spend taxpayers $$$$$ like an open pocketbook.
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We are already trillions in debt and the government still continues to spend taxpayers $$$$$ like an open pocketbook.
How so? What are they spending money on that they shouldn't?
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I have long been to the point of 'spending' in general is enough. Spend some time watching the debt clock and you might agree with me.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Find some people to elect into office that can get this monstrosity spinning in the other direction (without them stealing even more money from me) and they will most likely get my votes.
Nearly impossible today. Right after WWII was a prosperous time. Income taxes were very high and cost of living was low. The government had money to build roads, schools, hospitals, and fund Police and Fire Depts. We could still afford to buy things because WE MADE THEM HERE!
We don't export much anymore. Nothing but building domestic goods and selling them to other countries can possibly lower a deficit. I don't believe spending behavior has changed in the government drastically, the money that they have to spend has changed though. ipods, cell phones, cable, two cars, sending kids to expensive college... the cost of living has SOURED. People now demand lower taxes AND good schools. Just not possible.
WE NEED TO START BUILDING SH&T HERE ASAP!!!!
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Good topic and certainly timely. I really don't know how we are going to get out of the economic mess we are in. For so long we have looked away and trusted that things were being run well. I believe that it's because the fear of not knowing what to do about it caused us all to just hope it wasn't happening. It is so far past being able to ignore what is happening that many people are now looking for a way to get things back in control. The media drives our thinking to the point that watching the news has become a side show that just keeps us distracted. Your suggestion to have more contact with local officials is a good start. Doing something is always better than doing nothing.
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I have long been to the point of 'spending' in general is enough. Spend some time watching the debt clock and you might agree with me.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/
Find some people to elect into office that can get this monstrosity spinning in the other direction (without them stealing even more money from me) and they will most likely get my votes.
Nearly impossible today. Right after WWII was a prosperous time. Income taxes were very high and cost of living was low. The government had money to build roads, schools, hospitals, and fund Police and Fire Depts. We could still afford to buy things because WE MADE THEM HERE!
We don't export much anymore. Nothing but building domestic goods and selling them to other countries can possibly lower a deficit. I don't believe spending behavior has changed in the government drastically, the money that they have to spend has changed though. ipods, cell phones, cable, two cars, sending kids to expensive college... the cost of living has SOURED. People now demand lower taxes AND good schools. Just not possible.
WE NEED TO START BUILDING SH&T HERE ASAP!!!!
I think it is actually easy to do, it only requires a small measure of courage. Cut all expenses at an equal percent until the clock starts spinning the other way. It cannot get much easier than that.
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do you really think it would work? I believe the people in congress and the President work only for the people that contribute the big bucks to their elections.
We need to elect a everyday person from each town with a population of 50000 or less to go to washington and I know then that the little people would be heard and respected. Those people in congress now do not really understand the realities of living on small incomes anbd making it work.
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I see two solutions to government problems and one of them isn't nice.
1. Stop whining and become president yourself
2. Hope some higher power changes everything whether it be in the form of an invisible deity or super valuable resource and energy.
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@ teflonfanatic - a new source of energy would be beneficial for the country and it's allies. But it demands a great deal dedication one and two major funds to support the research and development. That being said a portion of the overseas budget would be more than enough!
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We haven't had any "growth" since 1959. We haven't added any new states to the union. We are built on pillaging. We started off just on the east coast. We said God wanted us to have all the land form Atlantic to Pacific Ocean (very specific of God, no?) So we took it. We Purchased some land and just flat out took the rest.
Our economy boomed after World War II. Every other major country was decimated and WE built thing and sold them to these countries. We cannot apologize for what we are or we we fall. You can't be a big bully that is afraid to take someone's lunch money anymore. Sorry Canada, but you have a lot of oil and no guns to defend it. Time to pay the piper.
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When will the American people say to our elected government that enough over seas spending is enough. How many of us are willing to write our elected officials or call their office and say enough is enough. If every voter would do this they would have to stop the spending.
When my ex was in the navy and I could not get a straight answer from the chain of command that I was suppose to go through I called the pentagon and got results from my inquiries. Some times it is better to start at the top and work out way down the ladder. If enough Americans would start questioning their elected officials things would start changing especially in an election year.
Good question. I think Americans are too busy and too distracted to care about what is really happening around them. I know of people in my personal life that have complete trust in the government or have major apathy about changing things for the good. While I have faith in our justice system, I feel that it is corrupted along with our political structure. The two party system is just theater for us to feel like we have a say in who makes the rules we are required to live by. I suppose the question is what can we do to change the way things are. Any ideas?
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@ teflonfanatic - a new source of energy would be beneficial for the country and it's allies. But it demands a great deal dedication one and two major funds to support the research and development. That being said a portion of the overseas budget would be more than enough!
There's always limitations on time, funds etc michio kaku(I mispelled his last name) is a physicist who comes up with great ideas but always admits he doesn't have the time or resources to make it happen hence the invisible deity theory xd. Michio kaku is deist btw as well as a world renowned physicist.
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Side note, this didn't get your spouse in trouble? I always hear how when spouses get involved then it really makes you as the military member look bad then you end up paying for it
The one time it did I called right back and told them that this was a listed telephone number and that as a citizen I had the right to call the number and I did not like the fact that reprisals were being taken against my husband for me making a phone call. He was notified after that but he did not get into trouble. Part of it had to do with him being out so sea and he had no contact with me at the time of the calls.
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Enough non-humanitarian aid and enough trade with non-democratic countries I say.
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It's not like congress can't hear what we have to say, it's more of they don't want to do anything about it. Members of congress are self serving people; leave scraps to the civilians.
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id say never lol. pple just dont have it yet.. its all about greed..
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GO GREEN RECYCLE ALL OF CONGRESS. LETS GET OUT AND VOTE AND LET THE CONGRESS KNOW HOW WE FEEL.
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GO GREEN RECYCLE ALL OF CONGRESS. LETS GET OUT AND VOTE AND LET THE CONGRESS KNOW HOW WE FEEL.
Soylent Green?
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not sure what you mean about soylent green, just saying we need to replace a lot of those that have been in congress forever and get some new people in that are willing to put a stop too all of this unnessary spending and straighten out the debt. Cut out all the prk barrel crap. One bill one vote.
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not sure what you mean about soylent green ...
"Soylent Green" refers to the name of a film in which people are 'recycled' by eating them after some processing.
just saying we need to replace a lot of those that have been in congress forever and get some new people in that are willing to put a stop too all of this unnessary spending and straighten out the debt. Cut out all the prk barrel crap. One bill one vote.
The current elective system does not guarantee that the politicians elected to replace other politicians can, or will, do any better in addressing those concerns. Oh sure, they may campaign on promises to make 'changes' on capital hill, (or the white house), but they are constricted by various factors which converge to limit how much they can actually change, (when those campaign platforms aren't merely vote-getting promises).