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Title: Heaven or Hell
Post by: Anita6586 on October 07, 2011, 07:31:53 am
Do you believe the writings of Dante(Italian poet),or the KJV of Revelation?
Since all the revisions of KJV have come to be,I still accede with KJV for the truths of the matter.
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: sh1980 on October 07, 2011, 09:55:04 am
Heaven :)
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: Falconer02 on October 07, 2011, 09:58:22 am
Both are fictional. Any open-minded person that does a little unbiased research will know that these supernatural ideas stem from earlier belief systems and ultimately imagination.
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: falcon9 on October 07, 2011, 03:13:00 pm
Both are fictional. Any open-minded person that does a little unbiased research will know that these supernatural ideas stem from earlier belief systems. 


Agreed; plus, they forgot that third fictional option: "purgatory".
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: queenofnines on October 07, 2011, 05:09:43 pm
Fourth fictional option: reincarnation.
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: falcon9 on October 07, 2011, 07:09:34 pm
Fourth fictional option: reincarnation.


Zounds, there's even a fifth fictional option:  rapture.
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: JediJohnnie on October 10, 2011, 01:42:18 pm
Do you believe the writings of Dante(Italian poet),or the KJV of Revelation?
Since all the revisions of KJV have come to be,I still accede with KJV for the truths of the matter.


Well,since the Bible is Holy Writ and Dante's a work of literature,I'll go with the Bible.
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: Barbaralynne on October 10, 2011, 01:55:26 pm
Both are fictional. Any open-minded person that does a little unbiased research will know that these supernatural ideas stem from earlier belief systems and ultimately imagination.


I hope for your sake that you are right, I pray for my sake that you are wrong.----I am not all that convinced that supernatural= imaginary, I think that if I don't exclude what I can't explain-isn't that being openminded?
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: acurtsinger2 on October 10, 2011, 02:59:36 pm
the bible is a work that was translated by a man, it is up to us to interpret the best we can
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: Falconer02 on October 10, 2011, 04:43:18 pm
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hope for your sake that you are right, I pray for my sake that you are wrong.----I am not all that convinced that supernatural= imaginary, I think that if I don't exclude what I can't explain-isn't that being openminded?

Sure. To an extent that is. There's a blurry line between being open-minded and being rational imo. Are the Abrahamic religions correct? They could be even though the chances are lesser than microscopic. If you think that these religions could be true, then you must believe that every single afterlife idea ever conceived has a chance to be true too. To say otherwise is a false dilemma. But the major rational point is these afterlife ideas don't really fit in with reality at all (many can be traced back to primitive peoples) so I'd wager that all of the mythical ones are imaginary and always have been (despite what the popular+narrow religious viewpoints will say).
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: swkstudent on October 11, 2011, 03:29:29 pm
I don't believe anything that hasn't been proven.
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: seventh1 on October 23, 2011, 11:07:36 am
Do you believe the writings of Dante(Italian poet),or the KJV of Revelation?
Since all the revisions of KJV have come to be,I still accede with KJV for the truths of the matter.

Heaven :angel11:
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: dmahoney on November 10, 2011, 11:45:43 am
Heaven all the Way! I cant imagine being so closed minded that I can only believe in what I can prove. What is life without believing in miracles. How does the person riddled with tumors and dying all of a sudden have nor tumors? Everyon is entitled to their own opinions and this is mine, but I hope someday those that are closed minded will experience a miracle for their own and open their minds. :angel12:
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: queenofnines on November 10, 2011, 03:20:38 pm
I cant imagine being so closed minded that I can only believe in what I can prove.

I guess you're open to leprechauns, unicorns, Big Foot, and the Loch Ness Monster then?  I know many a scam artist who would be happy to do business with an "open minded" person such as yourself.

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What is life without believing in miracles. How does the person riddled with tumors and dying all of a sudden have nor tumors?

Because sometimes the body heals itself and improves...this is not a miracle.  Also, when throwing the word "miracle" around, people usually mean divine intervention.  Is one person living because of "god's will" really something to cheer about when millions of others aren't so lucky?
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: falcon9 on November 10, 2011, 04:13:57 pm
I cant imagine being so closed minded that I can only believe in what I can prove.

I guess you're open to leprechauns, unicorns, Big Foot, and the Loch Ness Monster then?  I know many a scam artist who would be happy to do business with an "open minded" person such as yourself.

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What is life without believing in miracles. How does the person riddled with tumors and dying all of a sudden have nor tumors?

Because sometimes the body heals itself and improves...this is not a miracle.  Also, when throwing the word "miracle" around, people usually mean divine intervention.  Is one person living because of "god's will" really something to cheer about when millions of others aren't so lucky?


These 'narrow-minded' fundies seem to prefer attributing effects to a mystical cause and characterizing reasoning as "closed-minded".  It's sublimely ironic of them.
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: ebaltz on November 11, 2011, 12:48:50 pm
Heaven is for real!
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: falcon9 on November 11, 2011, 03:17:21 pm
Heaven is for real!


You mean it's finally been located on Google/sky?  Hrmm ... when "heaven" is punched in as a search parameter, Google/sky returns a "No results" found.  One would've guessed that the vastness of space would also be known as "the heavens" but, Google isn't buying that.
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: jordandog on November 12, 2011, 06:16:23 am
Heaven is for real!


You mean it's finally been located on Google/sky?  Hrmm ... when "heaven" is punched in as a search parameter, Google/sky returns a "No results" found.  One would've guessed that the vastness of space would also be known as "the heavens" but, Google isn't buying that.

falcon, maybe you're looking for the 'wrong' thing there. I know for a fact that "Heaven is for real!". A good friend of mine owns several Great Danes, one of which is named 'Heaven', so there you go. ;D She got the name as a result of being a particularly bullheaded pup. Every time she got into something else, my friend would say, "Oh, Hell, what have you done now?!" Since Hell (not the dog's original name) was a 'bad word' to his 4 year old, the wife decided to change the dog's name to Heaven, so their son would stop correcting Daddy for his mouth. ;)
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: falcon9 on November 12, 2011, 12:39:08 pm
A good friend of mine owns several Great Danes, one of which is named 'Heaven', so there you go. ;D She got the name as a result of being a particularly bullheaded pup. Every time she got into something else, my friend would say, "Oh, Hell, what have you done now?!" Since Hell (not the dog's original name) was a 'bad word' to his 4 year old, the wife decided to change the dog's name to Heaven, so their son would stop correcting Daddy for his mouth. ;)



I can see where you're going with that. My friend in Colorado has a cat she named "Bad Dog" and when I asked about the name, she had a unique perspective.  Since her Abyssinian was a cat, she wouldn't qualify as a good dog, (plus the cat seemed to really like her name).
Title: Re: Heaven or Hell
Post by: batmobile on November 17, 2011, 07:36:12 pm
Do you believe the writings of Dante(Italian poet),or the KJV of Revelation?
Since all the revisions of KJV have come to be,I still accede with KJV for the truths of the matter.

ah...we're all gonna die anyway one day.  :angel11: don't obsess about the end of days. :-