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Discussion Boards => Off-Topic => Debate & Discuss => Topic started by: Anita6586 on October 22, 2011, 05:47:56 am
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Religious leaders along with some parents,state," Harry Potter is a wizard,the movie is a form of sorcery,demonic interpretations,to
noxious to the child's mind."Did you rate this movie as a form of entrance of demonic powers embracing your child?
Big movie hit 450 million,first week box office,or possibly even more.
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Religious leaders along with some parents,state," Harry Potter is a wizard,the movie is a form of sorcery,demonic interpretations,to
noxious to the child's mind."Did you rate this movie as a form of entrance of demonic powers embracing your child?
Yes however, the same sorts of people said the same thing about All Hallow's Eve, rock 'n roll music, Dungeons & Dragons and Pat Robertson.
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I have heard of many people not allowed to read the Harry Potter books or see the movies because it encourages witchcraft. I don't agree. I simply think it is just a very creative story. Who cares if it is about witches, it's awesome! I feel children are deprived of something that could broaden their minds if not allowed to delve into the world of Harry Potter.
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Demonic powers? What the hell??? Seriously, how awful and boring does one's life have to be to call Harry Potter demonic? They are fictitious and entertaining stories plain and simple. People like that! Maybe the religious should read their bibles once in a while and see how laughably hypocritical they are seeing how it's full of magic, sorcery, demons, etc. Best of all, they hold it to be nonfiction and they implore their kids to speak proudly of it. And let's not forget about the groups of christians who actually practice witchcraft (aka "faith healing"). Hilarious and facepalm-inducing at the same time.
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Demonic powers? What the hell??? How awful and boring does one's life have to be to call Harry Potter demonic? They are fictitious and entertaining stories plain and simple. People like that! Maybe the religious should read their bibles once in a while and see how laughably hypocritical they are seeing how it's full of magic, sorcery, demons, etc. Best of all, they hold it to be true too and they implore their kids to speak proudly of it.
Well yeah, there is that but, you must understand that it's completely different when it's 'angels' destroying entire cities, (instead of 'daemons' and a vengeful xtian deity), having followers partake of ritual "transmutational cannibalism", (e.g., wine=blood of x, wafer=body of x), human sacrifice and 'prayer'. Yep, totally different, (at least from a P.R. perspective).
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Hahahahah! Ohhhhhh don't get me started with the hypocrisy. We could come up with contradictions till morning!
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Hahahahah! Ohhhhhh don't get me started with the hypocrisy. We could come up with contradictions till morning!
The nearest explanation to account for those contradictions that I can extrapolate so far is that when those early xtians swiped preceding pagan practices and rituals, (to 'modify' them for belief system absorbtion purposes), they probably didn't take the full ramifications of earlier 'religious magic' into account. Now, they're stuck with it, (such are the wages of cultural thefts).
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Falconer:
Not all Christians are that extreme or that hypocritical in their beliefs, whether it is pertaining to Harry Potter or other arguments. I'm not sure if your post meant it that way, but just how I read it. I'm not trying to get in a religious argument, but rather pointing out that just as non-Christians have differing views on different topics, so do Christians.
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Oh no, Mh. I'm only attacking the crazy conservative christians that think Harry Potter is witchcraft and such because it's completely hypocritical. It's nothing short of Dungeons and Dragons from 20+ years ago-- there was this huge religious campaign against D+D saying it spread ritualistic murder and crackpot stuff but the truth of the matter is 99% of people that play D+D were and still are completely friendly (nerds)! The one person who killed themselves and ignited the controversy had much more dire issues than a simple game. Unfortunately society blamed an innocent scapegoat and it made the players feel awkward and shunned when it really was a harmless hobby. It's ridiculous and this whole HP thing is very parallel so it gets me kind of aggitated that people still subscribe to this asinine behavior. It's primitive and stupid.
Now, they're stuck with it, (such are the wages of cultural thefts).
Of course we will always speak upon deaf ears when speaking rationally to such religious sheep who carry these crazy media-oriented beliefs.
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Of course we will always speak upon deaf ears when speaking rationally to such religious sheep who carry these crazy media-oriented beliefs.
A seed best takes root in fertile soil and, too much sunshine makes a desert.
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Not all Christians are that extreme or that hypocritical in their beliefs, whether it is pertaining to Harry Potter or other arguments. I'm not trying to get in a religious argument, but rather pointing out that just as non-Christians have differing views on different topics, so do Christians.
Valid points and you're right; viewoints vary, (even within religious or, non-religious paradigms).
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As a huge fan of the Harry Potter series, I feel sorry for those who haven't read it. It is the story of good vs. evil, of choosing your own destiny regardless of what was "prophesied" for you, and learning from your mistakes. These are all lessons that much of humanity still need to learn.
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I find taking fictitious stories (like the bible) too seriously (like Christian Fundamentalist) to be way more dangerous than taking fictitious stories (like Harry Potter) not seriously at all (like everyone else).
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There will always be extremists who criticize books, movies, games, music, and all types of media. It is sad that so many in society buy into the craziness. Why can't books, movies, games, etc. just be for entertainment. I don't see why there has to be such an uproar when these things should be fun.
As a huge fan of the Harry Potter series, I feel sorry for those who haven't read it. It is the story of good vs. evil, of choosing your own destiny regardless of what was "prophesied" for you, and learning from your mistakes. These are all lessons that much of humanity still need to learn.
But like amyrouse, I am a huge Harry Potter fan so maybe that is why I can't understand what all the hooplah (sp?) is about. They really are wonderful stories!
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I too am a fan of the Harry Potter Series and it's a shame that they make such a big deal about this, open your mind a little bit geesh!!
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I am a devout Christian and a huge fan of the Harry Potter series. I take for what it is worth. A fantasy which in no way whatsoever reflects in even the slightest way in the reality of life. I enjoy cleverness and creativity. Kudos to J.K.!
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I agree with PHX, Harry Potter is just a creative story. Kids don't get a chance to be creative any more. I think they're just entertainment, just like so many other media out there. My 9 year old son is listening to the books on cd right now and loves them. He struggles with reading so anything that he actually is interested in is a great motivator.
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As a Christian I don't really have much problems with Harry Potter.Magic and such has been a staple of fiction forever.I'm not sure I could be considered a huge fan,but I enjoy the movies,thought I haven't read the books.
If there is an area of concern to me,it would be that the films (apart from maybe the first one) are fairly dark and intense for the under 12 crowd that they've been marketed to.But that's for individual parents to decide.
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Magic and such has been a staple of fiction forever.
Indeed, what with Moses allegedly parting the Red Sea, that whole water-into-wine magic trick and "manna" from the skies; magic has been an aspect of nearly every religion throughout history.
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It seems everyone here is in agreement that Harry Potter doesn't deserve to be burned, based on the fact that books can't hurt people on their own. I like it.
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Magic and such has been a staple of fiction forever.
Indeed, what with Moses allegedly parting the Red Sea, that whole water-into-wine magic trick and "manna" from the skies; magic has been an aspect of nearly every religion throughout history.
You're confusing magic with the works of God.I find it somewhat amusing that Atheists attempt to equate Christian beliefs with magic.We believe God created the universe.What do Atheists believe? For no rhyme or reason,the universe just suddenly "appeared"........like magic. ;D
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You're confusing magic with the works of God.I find it somewhat amusing that Atheists attempt to equate Christian beliefs with magic.
If you believe that a work of god is equal to a person working with supernatural agencies, that is defined as magic. If you cannot back up your magical/mythical claims, you are a *bleep* of deception. That is another major trait of magic. As usual, you are completely incorrect.
We believe God created the universe.What do Atheists believe? For no rhyme or reason,the universe just suddenly "appeared"........like magic.
Post proof of your claims about the universe and-- OH WAIT! You can't. Darn, dude! Open a science book! You're a millenia behind on your research!
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Magic and such has been a staple of fiction forever.
Indeed, what with Moses allegedly parting the Red Sea, that whole water-into-wine magic trick and "manna" from the skies; magic has been an aspect of nearly every religion throughout history.
You're confusing magic with the works of God.
No, that would be the xtians doing so, (and the pagans before them). Rephrasing 'magic' as "the works of god" does not change the meaning of the term. A rose by any other name ...
I find it somewhat amusing that Atheists attempt to equate Christian beliefs with magic.
I find it amusing that some xtians are so unfamilar with the ability to reason. Those vague "Works of god" fall under the standard consensual definition of magic, whether or not you agree they do. If you want to redefine words, start your own language.
We believe God created the universe.
Since such a 'belief' lacks any evidence whatsoever, why is this relevant to a xtian belief in the magical works of a xtian god?
What do Atheists believe?
You continue to miss the point previously made; atheists don't "believe", they challenge the unsupported belief-claims put forward as opinions by others.
For no rhyme or reason,the universe just suddenly "appeared"........like magic. ;D
If this were not merely a flippant question, you could go look up emergent property theories, (although I doubt it).
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I dont think Harry Potter has any religious anything its just a movie about a world that is extremely different and interesting. There are lots of movies and books that are about witchcraft and stuff that are made to go in that direction and they dont fly or use wands or have dragons or any such thing. There is a big difference between fantasy and witchcraft.