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Title: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: de3ik on August 05, 2012, 05:56:58 pm
I was wondering which candidate the fusion cash members thought would....

1. Be the best President overall?

2. Do the best job in restoring the economy? Keep in mind that Obama is touting his plan vs Romney at his website here: barackobama.com/plans (Does anyone here have an opinion of how their plans would affect the economy?)

3. If you believe Romney will win do you think he will be a two term president?

I for one and still not sure who will win the race. It seems pretty close to me and it wouldn't surprise me if it went either way at this point. Also was there an article on USA Today as recently as July 23rd saying that Ron Paul hadn't stepped down from the race and still wouldn't endorse Mitt Romney. Did anyone think he would really win the presidency, revitalize the economy or get two terms?  ??? Paul had plenty of supporters, but it seemed like once Romney picked up steam that it was his down to him and Obama from the get go.

I'm looking forward to your answers. ;)

Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: Mykat on August 06, 2012, 07:13:15 pm
I think Ron Paul would have been the best choice because he really does understand the Constitution and believes it should be followed.  He is a man of principle who has had the same message for 40 years and has not wavered from it.

But many people today seem to prefer a "free ride" paid for by Uncle Sam.  I think they will realize all to late that their  "free ride" wasn't so free after all. Jmho.
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: sigmapi1501 on August 06, 2012, 08:57:25 pm
I think Ron Paul would have been the best choice because he really does understand the Constitution and believes it should be followed.  He is a man of principle who has had the same message for 40 years and has not wavered from it.

But many people today seem to prefer a "free ride" paid for by Uncle Sam.  I think they will realize all to late that their  "free ride" wasn't so free after all. Jmho.

Yep, that same racist message for 40 years.
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: ajami on August 06, 2012, 09:15:33 pm
If I had to choose I would go with Obama but neither candidate would make a good president.
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: kords21 on August 07, 2012, 09:50:19 pm
I think Ron Paul would have been the best choice because he really does understand the Constitution and believes it should be followed.  He is a man of principle who has had the same message for 40 years and has not wavered from it.

But many people today seem to prefer a "free ride" paid for by Uncle Sam.  I think they will realize all to late that their  "free ride" wasn't so free after all. Jmho.

Yep, that same racist message for 40 years.

I too think that Ron Paul is the only guy running that truly understands what this country needs to get back on track. As for the "racist message" you refer to, how is it racist to be the only guy who wants to end the war on drugs that affects minorities way more than whites? How is he racist when he treated a mixed couple when others wouldn't? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rv0Z5SNrF4). I know you're referring to the newsletters which admittedly he should have been a lot more careful in overseeing but he didn't write those passages that have been used to demonize him. Go ahead and vote for Romney or Obama cause they're so good and upstanding and so honest. Vote for whoever you feel is best and I'll feel for whoever I feel is best even if I have to write in Paul, but I'm not voting for "the lesser of 2 evils".
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: work778 on August 10, 2012, 01:02:25 pm
Ron Paul  ;D
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: vp44 on August 29, 2012, 02:33:34 pm
God, but since I would have to choose someone who is on this earth right now OBAMA! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: falcon9 on August 29, 2012, 11:18:34 pm
God, but since I would have to choose someone who is on this earth right now OBAMA! :thumbsup:

Plus, candidates must actually exist and be U.S. citizens, which disqualifies any supernatural hypotheticals.
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: tinajacksonville on August 30, 2012, 09:48:19 am
Do they ever think about how their plans will affect the economy? I believe that the candidates look at they have good ideas but never ask themselves if the ideas will be the solution to the problems.
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: plennis on August 30, 2012, 09:50:46 am
I am going for Obama.  Ron Paul has tried numerous times  but cannot even get his own party nomination, so he really doesn't stand any chance.   
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: ghunter on August 30, 2012, 10:20:05 am
I think Obama would be the best choice.  Every president need two terms to get things going.
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: healthfreedom on August 30, 2012, 06:26:30 pm
Obama's plan for America is a miserable failure. So, we have to give a new person, Mitt Romney a chance. Hopefully if he wins, he will keep his promises to the american people.
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: froggylover79 on August 30, 2012, 06:47:08 pm
I think Obama will win...Our 6yr old wrote a book report & letter to him back in Novemeber of last year and to our surprise President Obama responded and invited him to the White House. We are so proud of him. There's my Vote.
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: elandry on August 30, 2012, 10:11:57 pm
Hmmm.

choice number 1: a rather lackluster governor of Massachusetts that has a rather solidly conservative voting record (barring his temporary insanity of mandatory health insurance in Mass.). A proven successful businessman, both before and after Bain Capital. A Young, healthy conservative vice president who is fiscally conservative, serves on the house budget committee, and actually reads legislation before voting. While good old Mitt may waffle (just as Clinton did, and quite a few other presidents and governors) at least he waffles consistently. And he supports our allies. He didn't tell Israel to wait until after the election to defend themselves. Nor did he tell the EEC not to dump Greece before our election because it would cause problems.  And if anyone read his history at Bain, he didn't kill that lady with cancer either. Quite the opposite-- he kept that company alive longer than it would have been without him.

Choice number 2: A man who in this Bio for his 1991 book Journeys in Black and white directly states he was born in Kenya--and he kept that bio for15 years. He also, according to friends from Harvard, led everyone to believe he had been born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia (is Hawaii in Indonesia?). Whose long form birth certificate states the hospital in which he was born-- which didn't exist until 1978. Who apparently made his way through college getting foreign aid. Who is a self confessed former drug dealer and drug user in his book Dreams from my Father.Whose blood brother is a poverty stricken African drug addict, and homeless.. Whose pastor of 20 years is a known black supremacist, with ties to black supremacy and radical Muslim groups.. Whose only business experience is running radical political groups. Who quotes the Communist Manifesto. Who told American business people, like myself and my other half, we didn't build our businesses-- the government did. Who supposedly attended Columbia with quite a few prominent Poly-sci majors (as he said he was)-- but none remember him--400 people in his major were surveyed, and even as large as Columbia is, in his field of study he should have been remembered for something.. whose stimulus policies have raised the federal debt to just under 16 TRILLION dollars in less than 4 years. Who sent the bust of Winston Churchill back to England-- this was property of the American people. Who has repeatedly abrogated his oath of office, and circumvented congress-- thereby circumventing the will of the American people-- by profligate use of the executive order system-- most recently directing the implementation of a revised and WEAKENED 'DREAM" act for illegal aliens-- an act that was VETOED by congress. Whose appointments to the Supreme court advocate bringing our national and federal laws in alignment with the world court and other foreign powers-- several recent Supreme court rulings addressed World court law. A Vice president who is afflicted with foot in mouth disease, not in the best of health, and given to making inflammatory remarks at inopportune times-- who also has a bad voting record. It should be noted that the current occupier of the oval office also has taken credit for things that happened when he wasn't even IN ANY political office or he voted AGAINST, and has consistently voted for increase in government power, decrease of state's rights, and increases in entitlements that are not sustainable in the current economy. Of course, now that over 50% of Americans live in below 150% of the federal poverty level, over 55% of American receive government subsidies for housing, food and medical care, and a special commission has been formed to further the higher education of minorities-- which is discrimination under the constitution-- and last year alone non-American citizens collected federal income tax refunds totaling over 7 BILLION dollars-- ooops, I almost forgot the impending second bailout of General Motors, or cities going bankrupt due to inability to fund government pensions, or the unemployment rate that does not include those no longer receiving unemployment or those under employed or out of work more than a year (the ACTUAL unemployment rate is over 15%, not including the millions of new undocumented workers entering the system)--we have a big problem.

Currently, 47% of Americans owe no federal tax, and an addition 10% get back MORE than they pay-- the top 1% of Americans earn 21.1 percent of income as of 2009, and pay 21.6 percent of all taxes. This being the case, when one does the very complicated math, approximately 20% of people are supporting eveyone else. This is NOT sustainable, especially with the increasing geopolitical and macroeconomic conditions. TANSTAAFL-- There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch-- and the "free" lunch all of his supporters are currently enjoying won't be available much longer.


Given these facts--- the question then becomes will the American people continue to vote themselves free lunch? and what will they do when the lunch isn't there anymore?

Don't rely on the mainstream media, or the nutball fringe media, or the free loaders to choose our next Idiot In Charge-- READ, READ, AND READ SOME MORE.

Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: falcon9 on August 30, 2012, 10:53:46 pm
What are your specific, (not generalized), sources?  A refutation derives from this source:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_birthplace_controversy

Hmmm.

choice number 1: a rather lackluster governor of Massachusetts that has a rather solidly conservative voting record (barring his temporary insanity of mandatory health insurance in Mass.). A proven successful businessman, both before and after Bain Capital. A Young, healthy conservative vice president who is fiscally conservative, serves on the house budget committee, and actually reads legislation before voting. While good old Mitt may waffle (just as Clinton did, and quite a few other presidents and governors) at least he waffles consistently. And he supports our allies. He didn't tell Israel to wait until after the election to defend themselves. Nor did he tell the EEC not to dump Greece before our election because it would cause problems.  And if anyone read his history at Bain, he didn't kill that lady with cancer either. Quite the opposite-- he kept that company alive longer than it would have been without him.

Choice number 2: A man who in this Bio for his 1991 book Journeys in Black and white directly states he was born in Kenya--and he kept that bio for15 years. He also, according to friends from Harvard, led everyone to believe he had been born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia (is Hawaii in Indonesia?). Whose long form birth certificate states the hospital in which he was born-- which didn't exist until 1978. Who apparently made his way through college getting foreign aid. Who is a self confessed former drug dealer and drug user in his book Dreams from my Father.Whose blood brother is a poverty stricken African drug addict, and homeless.. Whose pastor of 20 years is a known black supremacist, with ties to black supremacy and radical Muslim groups.. Whose only business experience is running radical political groups. Who quotes the Communist Manifesto. Who told American business people, like myself and my other half, we didn't build our businesses-- the government did. Who supposedly attended Columbia with quite a few prominent Poly-sci majors (as he said he was)-- but none remember him--400 people in his major were surveyed, and even as large as Columbia is, in his field of study he should have been remembered for something.. whose stimulus policies have raised the federal debt to just under 16 TRILLION dollars in less than 4 years. Who sent the bust of Winston Churchill back to England-- this was property of the American people. Who has repeatedly abrogated his oath of office, and circumvented congress-- thereby circumventing the will of the American people-- by profligate use of the executive order system-- most recently directing the implementation of a revised and WEAKENED 'DREAM" act for illegal aliens-- an act that was VETOED by congress. Whose appointments to the Supreme court advocate bringing our national and federal laws in alignment with the world court and other foreign powers-- several recent Supreme court rulings addressed World court law. A Vice president who is afflicted with foot in mouth disease, not in the best of health, and given to making inflammatory remarks at inopportune times-- who also has a bad voting record. It should be noted that the current occupier of the oval office also has taken credit for things that happened when he wasn't even IN ANY political office or he voted AGAINST, and has consistently voted for increase in government power, decrease of state's rights, and increases in entitlements that are not sustainable in the current economy. Of course, now that over 50% of Americans live in below 150% of the federal poverty level, over 55% of American receive government subsidies for housing, food and medical care, and a special commission has been formed to further the higher education of minorities-- which is discrimination under the constitution-- and last year alone non-American citizens collected federal income tax refunds totaling over 7 BILLION dollars-- ooops, I almost forgot the impending second bailout of General Motors, or cities going bankrupt due to inability to fund government pensions, or the unemployment rate that does not include those no longer receiving unemployment or those under employed or out of work more than a year (the ACTUAL unemployment rate is over 15%, not including the millions of new undocumented workers entering the system)--we have a big problem.

Currently, 47% of Americans owe no federal tax, and an addition 10% get back MORE than they pay-- the top 1% of Americans earn 21.1 percent of income as of 2009, and pay 21.6 percent of all taxes. This being the case, when one does the very complicated math, approximately 20% of people are supporting eveyone else. This is NOT sustainable, especially with the increasing geopolitical and macroeconomic conditions. TANSTAAFL-- There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch-- and the "free" lunch all of his supporters are currently enjoying won't be available much longer.


Given these facts--- the question then becomes will the American people continue to vote themselves free lunch? and what will they do when the lunch isn't there anymore?

Don't rely on the mainstream media, or the nutball fringe media, or the free loaders to choose our next Idiot In Charge-- READ, READ, AND READ SOME MORE.


Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: kamarae897 on August 31, 2012, 11:40:30 am
YOU PEOPLE ARE NUTS OBAMA. In the beginning I liked Obama. He had turned out to be a no good #@##. Obama is not for the people he promotes racial hatred. He has an agenda which he is following and it doesn't benefit the people only a select few. He is putting the economy in dire straits. I did my own research a few weeks ago and do you know that he had added to the deficit more that double in his nearly four years than Clinton and Bush did in their combined 16 years. You can say its the war but we've been at was since the twin towers fell. The truth is Obama is a fraud he is not an American citizen he professes to be christian. He is Muslim he has said it on the air if you don't believe me find it on YouTube. Another thing he has said on air was the the Russian president "I can do more for you when I am re elected" also on YouTube. His own grandmother said he was born in Kenya. The constitution states that to be president both parents must be citizens. Even if Obama could prove he is a citizen there is proof his father was not. (look it up). On the racist issue someone commented how can he (Ron Paul) be racist. The definition of racist is not liking another race it doesn't matter what color you are to be racist. People assume that being a racist means your white and don't like another race. I am racist and I am not afraid to admit it. But what I am racist against is racism. For example where I live recently they announced a black families weekend. Which is fine to be proud of who you are and celebrate it. But if the city were to announce a white families weekend what do you think would happen or if a scholarship was for whites only. Whites are often claimed to be racist but it is the races that are racist. There are scholarships for just males or females some for just Hispanic and some for just blacks (THIS IS RACIST). Well Ill get off my high horse now. VOTE FOR ROMNEY!!!!!
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: elandry on September 01, 2012, 03:32:57 am
What are your specific, (not generalized), sources?  A refutation derives from this source:

 For the record, I agree with the balanced refutations. I think most of the fuss,l even if it is true, is way overdue and uncorrectable. Some pages--with a caveat. I personally do not believe he was born in Kenya, or Indonesia-- though I do note his parents were not legally married, according to the wiki entry on Obama Sr.-- who abandoned a pregnant wife and toddler in Kenya.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/05/17/Obama-pamphlet-in-use-2007
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/the_bribe_to_silence_wright_io9jneobl3fUF0cb7LpcNM
http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/media-chuckles-at-bio-on-obamas-kenya-birth/

“My parents shared not only an improbable love,” said Obama famously in his 2004 Democratic Convention keynote, “they shared an abiding faith in the possibilities of this nation.” This concept of multicultural romance shaped his persona and his campaigns.

According to his own books, he saw little of his father, his parents lived apart, and they divorced (though not legally married) when he was 2.

99% of what is said about him is exaggerated or out of context, but his own autobiographies speak for himself-- and they make for disturbing reading.

 I find it curious that a "clerical error" in an author's bio would remain for over a decade-- Authors are notorious for correcting such things, especially when continuing to write. I also find it interesting that he characterized himself as an "indifferent student" at Occidental, yet still got scholarships to Columbia and Harvard. When I got my scholarship to Harvard, I was to 3% in the SATs (life, however, intervened). His college transcripts would no doubt be interesting. He also had a relationship with Frank Marshall Davis, a card carrying U.S. Communist.  If nothing else, he seems to have odd tastes in friends and organizations to work for. While no politician is by any means pristine (politics rarely attracts honorable, or honest, men) his taste in associates is at the least questionable, as are his policies. Many people believe that all his wild oats sowing in college-- drug use, drug dealing, going to Marxist and communist meetings, associating with black supremacists (I'm sorry, but his 20 year  preacher  said G-d DAMN America  I'm annoyed) were just being a rebellious angry young man-- I don't buy it.I have read everything he wrote-- I did as soon as he declared his candidacy. I also examined his voting record in his time in the senate-- which was quite thin. I do not believe the REAL Mr. Obama has changed his proverbial spots. He still has odd associates, and he is still very much in favor of pervasive government-- check out his story of the life of "Julia"      http://www.barackobama.com/life-of-julia/

Everything Julia would receive through the benevolence of Obama and the all powerful government is already available in a free market, capitalist meritocracy. The reason these benefits are in danger now is Because our current level of entitlements is unsustainable.

Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: vickysue on September 01, 2012, 01:59:32 pm
I think Mitt Romney will. Obama has not really done much for this country but put us so in debt, that it will take mircle to get us out of it. He has given so much to other countries and not done much to support our country. Except extended the entitilements to 45 million people.and i am not talking about the seniors who worked and paid for their benifits. They did not get a cost of living for 2 years and now they got a small one (voting time) But their cost of Medicare went up and lost some medical services. Their medicare comes right out of their check. What does those on welfare pay? Just give me, give me.  Now Obama is going to take millions out of Medicare to pay for his pet project Health care. It is wrong wrong. (congress got a pay raise though. I hope he loses big time.       
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: monnee on September 01, 2012, 02:10:59 pm
The peoples choice on election day!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: sigmapi1501 on September 02, 2012, 12:36:18 am
YOU PEOPLE ARE NUTS OBAMA. In the beginning I liked Obama. He had turned out to be a no good #@##. Obama is not for the people he promotes racial hatred. He has an agenda which he is following and it doesn't benefit the people only a select few. He is putting the economy in dire straits. I did my own research a few weeks ago and do you know that he had added to the deficit more that double in his nearly four years than Clinton and Bush did in their combined 16 years. You can say its the war but we've been at was since the twin towers fell. The truth is Obama is a fraud he is not an American citizen he professes to be christian. He is Muslim he has said it on the air if you don't believe me find it on YouTube. Another thing he has said on air was the the Russian president "I can do more for you when I am re elected" also on YouTube. His own grandmother said he was born in Kenya. The constitution states that to be president both parents must be citizens. Even if Obama could prove he is a citizen there is proof his father was not. (look it up). On the racist issue someone commented how can he (Ron Paul) be racist. The definition of racist is not liking another race it doesn't matter what color you are to be racist. People assume that being a racist means your white and don't like another race. I am racist and I am not afraid to admit it. But what I am racist against is racism. For example where I live recently they announced a black families weekend. Which is fine to be proud of who you are and celebrate it. But if the city were to announce a white families weekend what do you think would happen or if a scholarship was for whites only. Whites are often claimed to be racist but it is the races that are racist. There are scholarships for just males or females some for just Hispanic and some for just blacks (THIS IS RACIST). Well Ill get off my high horse now. VOTE FOR ROMNEY!!!!!

Man you nailed all the Talking points! Nice you get a fox news A+
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: de3ik on September 02, 2012, 04:55:24 am
Did anyone see Romney's speech at the RNC? Does anyone here think he spoke well or that he failed to get his point across? And does anyone here think he gained anymore ground on Obama? I don't know, but at this point I'm really starting to think well be calling Mitt, President Romney on election night. Does anyone else think he's positioned to win now. Something in me is really feeling like Obama has lost more ground since the RNC, despite the Eastwood gaffe. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this.
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: heroftimes on September 03, 2012, 06:06:11 am
I don't think the 1% and the corporations need any more government assistance than we, the taxpayers, already give them.  Unfortunately, both parties are practically slaves to lobbyists, so in the end it won't matter.  Until we get a party that has the *bleep* to stand up to all the corporate money in the system, nothing will change and this country will continue to spiral into the uncontrollable tailspin that it's already in.  It's so sad that the only choice we have is a lesser of two evils scenario.  I feel obama is the lesser of the two evils and hope that with his second term he can stop worrying about getting re-elected and try to fix things.  I think Romney will hand whats left of this country over to Wall Street, hell, he's practically made it clear that he plans on doing this.
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: BJohnsonPP on September 03, 2012, 07:24:11 am
Obama's plan for America is a miserable failure. So, we have to give a new person, Mitt Romney a chance. Hopefully if he wins, he will keep his promises to the american people.

Really? Romney is proposing the same plans that got us into the mess in the first place. I'll choose a slow recovery over what we're recovering from any day. I really don't understand what world people live when when they make statements like this. Romney's biggest accomplishment is Romneycare and instead of running on it he runs away from simply because his party tells him to. That doesn't sound like someone that will keep his promises, it sounds like someone who will say anything to win and shrink in the face of pressure from his party. No thank you.

Obama is certainly not perfect but I can rattle off a list of promises that he's actually kept and point out how often he's pis.sed his own party off. I can't say the same for Romney.
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: BlackSheepNY on September 03, 2012, 12:02:58 pm
Well, Ron Paul STILL has plenty of supporters and I think it was pretty skanky of the GOP to change the way the game is played (and don't kid yourself, it's a game, alright!) in the middle of an election term.  If they wanted to play fair, they would have stated those plans and waited 'til AFTER the election.  If I were Ron Paul, I'd be pissed off, too.

Since we're stuck with a two-party system and Romney is the GOP's nominee, I will vote for Romney.  Not because he's the best choice but, because he's the lesser of two evils.  Besides that, what other choice do we have?

Obama has a LOT to prove.  In 4 years, he's run this country into the ground.  Give him another 4 years and you can kiss ALL that is THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA GOODBYE.  His goal is SOCIALISM and that just doesn't fit in with my Founding Father's principles, nor mine.  Think about it.  Obama's had 4 years and we still don't even have a budget, let alone more jobs, etc.  The only thing he's good for is playing golf, and golf doesn't interest me.  At least Romney's got a 5 point plan.

Obama keeps touting he's got a plan - but if it's like the Healthcare plan - "you gotta pass it before you know what's in it!," he can fuggedaboudit.  This joker has by-passed Congress on so many issues via his Executive Orders.  Czars????  Are you kidding me?  What is this, the USSR???

He's got no plans that will better the country and the state we're in.  His entire campaign is about smearing the other guy.  Why?  Because he's got NOTHING ELSE TO RUN ON.  He's got a lot of flash and talk, but he can't walk the walk.  Four years was enough for me (and I didn't vote for him).  I'm waiting for the day when they rush the WH and drag him out in cuffs, kicking and screaming! 
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: BJohnsonPP on September 03, 2012, 12:24:50 pm
BlackSheep, I was going to respond to your comment then I saw this:

Czars????  Are you kidding me?  What is this, the USSR???

This shows me that you just regurgitate nonsense you hear with zero knowledge of what you're talking about. A czar is just an advisor. You clearly think Obama started the appointment of czars  ::) .  It's not even an offical title. Czars started with FDR and every President, Republican and Democrat, has had them since.

I can see how your brain works:
See the name Obama: loading buzzwords... Socialism, Communism... loading... loading...
loading historical knowledge... searching... searching... file not found.
loading current knowledge... searching... searching.... Error.
Hear the word czar: loading reaction... Sounds Russian... OMG!

 ::) :BangHead:
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: BlackSheepNY on September 03, 2012, 07:50:55 pm
Hey, BJ, don't get me wrong because my daughter-in-law's RUSSIAN but, yeah, "CZAR" is certainly a keyword.  Your President (because he ain't MINE!) wanted to "fundamentally change" the U.S.  He's well on his way, and if we dare give him another term, me and you won't be having conversations like these anymore.  :P
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: heroftimes on September 04, 2012, 05:43:00 am
Hey, BJ, don't get me wrong because my daughter-in-law's RUSSIAN but, yeah, "CZAR" is certainly a keyword.  Your President (because he ain't MINE!) wanted to "fundamentally change" the U.S.  He's well on his way, and if we dare give him another term, me and you won't be having conversations like these anymore.  :P

Yes, Great Leader Obama will take away all you're rights to free speech if he's elected.  Do you really believe these ignorant statements you write?
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: BJohnsonPP on September 04, 2012, 06:12:12 am
Hey, BJ, don't get me wrong because my daughter-in-law's RUSSIAN but, yeah, "CZAR" is certainly a keyword. 

If you actually understand how the word is used in politics/journalism, which you clearly don't (which you noticeably didn't address), then no, it's not a key word at all. It's pretty meaningless term. It's used as a shortcut instead of using the full title of an advisors position. Kind of like Obamacare and Romneycare are short for the "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" and "Massachusetts Health Care Insurance Reform" respectively.

So, if you clearly don't know what you're talking about, why is it that you keep talking?

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Your President (because he ain't MINE!) wanted to "fundamentally change" the U.S.  He's well on his way, and if we dare give him another term, me and you won't be having conversations like these anymore.  :P

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt"
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: batmobile on September 04, 2012, 06:22:24 am
 :-X  :bs: actually the president is just a figure head congress makes most of the decisions plus government and congress so crooked it doesnt really matter at this rate i could be the next president and things wont be the way people expect. these guys make promises they cant keep and sweep everything  under the rug every time. nothing will change that much. it may just get worse... :-[ but lets pray maybe ill be surprised this time
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: tinajacksonville on September 04, 2012, 04:17:03 pm
Congress may make most of the decision if the President lets them but The president does have the right to veto and refuse to sign anything that congress tries to pass. Congress needs to be put back in their place like when Reagan was in office. Reagan would VETO if he felt it was not advantageous for the american people. He would not allow congress to do anything that would hurt the american people. 
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: mjacobs5 on September 05, 2012, 03:18:53 am
I don't think either candidate is the best choice! Where is Ross Perot when you need him???? :crybaby2:
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: kamarae897 on September 06, 2012, 06:52:59 am
BlackSheep, I was going to respond to your comment then I saw this:

Czars????  Are you kidding me?  What is this, the USSR???


This shows me that you just regurgitate nonsense you hear with zero knowledge of what you're talking about. A czar is just an advisor. You clearly think Obama started the appointment of czars  ::) .  It's not even an offical title. Czars started with FDR and every President, Republican and Democrat, has had them since.

I can see how your brain works:
See the name Obama: loading buzzwords... Socialism, Communism... loading... loading...
loading historical knowledge... searching... searching... file not found.
loading current knowledge... searching... searching.... Error.
Hear the word czar: loading reaction... Sounds Russian... OMG!

 ::) :BangHead:
Socialism is just what the people are going to get if Obama wins the election. VOTE FOR ROMNEY
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: kamarae897 on September 09, 2012, 01:21:33 pm
Impeach Obama and throw his a$$ in prison for treason.
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: sigmapi1501 on September 09, 2012, 07:54:53 pm
Impeach Obama and throw his a$$ in prison for treason.

Please tell us ONE thing that would warrant treason!  Go ahead, ONE!
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: sigmapi1501 on September 09, 2012, 07:59:27 pm
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Socialism is just what the people are going to get if Obama wins the election. VOTE FOR ROMNEY

You don't like Socialism?   So next time your house is on fire, you don't want that firefighters that everyone chips in to pay to put that fire out?   If there is a break in or trouble you do not want the police officers that everyone chips in to pay for to handle the situation?   All those kids that go to school fer their fancy book learnin'... stop that too?  You would like to travel out of state, wanna use that interstate that we all chipped in to build?

Socialism is not what your good ole boys on the talkin' tv box would have you believe... It's not just them blacks gettin all yer money.   Pooling our resources for the common good actually creates a common good.

PWNED
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: BJohnsonPP on September 11, 2012, 06:14:43 am
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Socialism is just what the people are going to get if Obama wins the election. VOTE FOR ROMNEY

You don't like Socialism?   So next time your house is on fire, you don't want that firefighters that everyone chips in to pay to put that fire out?   If there is a break in or trouble you do not want the police officers that everyone chips in to pay for to handle the situation?   All those kids that go to school fer their fancy book learnin'... stop that too?  You would like to travel out of state, wanna use that interstate that we all chipped in to build?

Socialism is not what your good ole boys on the talkin' tv box would have you believe... It's not just them blacks gettin all yer money.   Pooling our resources for the common good actually creates a common good.

PWNED

This
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: kamarae897 on September 11, 2012, 03:09:15 pm
Impeach Obama and throw his a$$ in prison for treason.
Treason:A betrayal of trust or confidence. (http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/treason) Obama is NOT an American. He admits it himself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edyJ4oS8kz0&feature=related
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: falcon9 on September 11, 2012, 03:12:17 pm
Seriously?  An edited "youtube" video is presented as factual?

Impeach Obama and throw his a$$ in prison for treason.
Treason:A betrayal of trust or confidence. (http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/treason) Obama is NOT an American. He admits it himself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edyJ4oS8kz0&feature=related
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Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: kamarae897 on September 11, 2012, 03:28:15 pm
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Socialism is just what the people are going to get if Obama wins the election. VOTE FOR ROMNEY
You don't like Socialism?   So next time your house is on fire, you don't want that firefighters that everyone chips in to pay to put that fire out?   If there is a break in or trouble you do not want the police officers that everyone chips in to pay for to handle the situation?   All those kids that go to school fer their fancy book learnin'... stop that too?  You would like to travel out of state, wanna use that interstate that we all chipped in to build?

Socialism is not what your good ole boys on the talkin' tv box would have you believe... It's not just them blacks gettin all yer money.   Pooling our resources for the common good actually creates a common good.

PWNED

This
Socialism: Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy. http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/socialism

Do you really want the government to control every aspect of your life? Police, firefighters and school services have nothing to do with socialism those are tax dollars. Before you make stupid statements look at the facts.
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: vp44 on September 11, 2012, 04:10:27 pm
Obama cause I think he is a person some dont think he can do his job but when you have Republicans and Democrats fighting each other. What better choice. Plus I love my women rights.
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: BJohnsonPP on September 11, 2012, 04:11:48 pm
Socialism: Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy. http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/socialism

Do you really want the government to control every aspect of your life?

Who said anything about government controlling every aspect of anyone's life?

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Police, firefighters and school services have nothing to do with socialism those are tax dollars.

Where's the facepalm smiley? Where do you think socialist nations get their money from?

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Before you make stupid statements look at the facts.

You post a clearly (and horribly) edited video of the president and have the nerve to talk to anyone about stupid statements and facts? I'd say "physician, heal thyself" but physicians have educations. While you're sifting through dictionaries though, look up the word "irony".
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: vp44 on September 11, 2012, 04:32:53 pm
Amen! :heart:
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: sigmapi1501 on September 12, 2012, 03:17:06 am
WOW, just wow.  How has she not died from forgetting to breathe?
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: heroftimes on September 12, 2012, 06:26:22 am
This is a joke right?  I mean, it got a chuckle out of me, then I laughed out loud literally knowing that some someone watched this and thought "Welp, there's the concrete evidence!"

Impeach Obama and throw his a$$ in prison for treason.
Treason:A betrayal of trust or confidence. (http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/treason) Obama is NOT an American. He admits it himself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edyJ4oS8kz0&feature=related
Title: Re: Which presidential candidate do you think will make the best choice?
Post by: hitch0403 on September 12, 2012, 01:57:58 pm
I dont support politicians...but if the health law thru Obama helps my family out i will say thanx to him.