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Title: pray for Falcon9
Post by: dmahoney on October 20, 2012, 05:32:23 pm
I am hoping to start a prayer chain for falcon9. I know he will hate this and I am truley sorry for that, but he seems to be filled with hatred and I for one am praying for him.  :angel11:
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 20, 2012, 05:40:29 pm
This constitutes a calling-out thread, especially when these xtians are aware that I find their religious beliefs to be offensive and their assumptions to be unfounded.

I am hoping to start a prayer chain for falcon9. I know he will hate this and I am truley sorry for that, but he seems to be filled with hatred and I for one am praying for him.  :angel11:
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: katie322 on October 20, 2012, 05:49:24 pm
Honestly, I think your post is unnecessary. If falcon9 wanted prayers i'm sure he/she would have stated so.  :dontknow:
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 20, 2012, 05:57:30 pm
Honestly, I think your post is unnecessary. If falcon9 wanted prayers i'm sure he/she would have stated so.  :dontknow:

Not only was her post unnecessary, she's well-aware of my position concerning "prayer" and her post was therefore intentionally-offensive.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: Falconer02 on October 20, 2012, 06:07:33 pm
I highly agree- Falcon9 deserves a prayer. Let us all now pray to Ninkasi so Falcon9 may be blessed by our goddess.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 20, 2012, 06:09:52 pm
I highly agree- Falcon9 deserves a prayer. Let us all now pray to Ninkasi so Falcon9 may be blessed by our goddess.

"Mmmm ... beer?"
- H. Simpson
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: hitch0403 on October 20, 2012, 06:17:06 pm
Jesus did say to love your enemies,but i think in Falcons case we can make an exception!!
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: potluck6 on October 20, 2012, 06:38:00 pm
Glad he is ok usually when you see a pray for post it's because someone was hurt or sick.Was just interrupted by two Mormons at the door my husband said did they ask you to vote for Mitt, but anyway ok won't pray for falcon9.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 20, 2012, 06:40:11 pm
Glad he is ok usually when you see a pray for post it's because someone was hurt or sick.Was just interrupted by two Mormons at the door my husband said did they ask you to vote for Mitt, but anyway ok won't pray for falcon9.

I never solicit magical intercessory rituals, (what the religious zealots call "prayer"), because they're based upon superstitious beliefs I don't hold.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: fc2 on October 20, 2012, 07:53:24 pm
I am hoping to start a prayer chain for falcon9. I know he will hate this and I am truley sorry for that, but he seems to be filled with hatred and I for one am praying for him.  :angel11:

Halleleujah  :thumbsup:I say it's high time you volunteered to pray for f9  :wave:. It's been a long time coming and I'm happy to see a neighboring believer of Jesus and God intercede for falcom9  :angel11:. I guess this has always been a SILENT PRAYER as well for falcon9's spiritual sake too, but I didn't have the courage and bravery to create a thread especially for f9. I for one am certain in this life or the next life The Good Lord will reach out and rescue falcon9. Bless and thank God's many Names  :notworthy:. Toldjuh God was gonna get you sooner or later f9  :thumbsup: :heart: Now that you've entered PrayerVille and have others supplicating for you falcon9 everything's gonna be alright. The rest is up to you now ofcourse to recongnize and realize the unseen existence of God Almighty  ;)
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 20, 2012, 08:00:46 pm
These are unsolicited and unappreciated attempts at magical intercession which I find both contemptible and offensive.  This position is generally known by most of the religious adherents who've been aware of it for some time.  Therefore, these types of posts are direct trolling intended to "call-out" an FC member by 'nym.

I'm happy to see a neighboring believer of Jesus and God interced for falcom9  I guess this has always been a SILENT PRAYER as well for falcon9's spiritual sake too, but I diden't have the courage and bravery to create a thread especially for f9.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: ajami on October 20, 2012, 08:06:53 pm
Sorry but falcon needs a miracle not a prayer.  He will never ever change his ways.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: fc2 on October 20, 2012, 08:09:27 pm
You can hide behind all of these historic writers' quotes(and I'm sure its all entertaining to you), but surrendering to God is gonna be the best feeling you've experienced someday. Am happy for you f9 :) Welcome to the wonderful world of Heavenly Father and His love for you  :thumbsup: Personally, I like to hide behind God and under His wings.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 20, 2012, 08:10:34 pm
Sorry but falcon needs a miracle not a prayer.  He will never ever change his ways.

Thanks for the pretentiously-sanctimonious religious opinion.  Since it's steeped in blind faith, rather than a factual basis, it renders itself meaningless.  My "ways" are those of logical reasoning, not unchanging blind religious "faith".
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 20, 2012, 08:12:28 pm
...but surrendering to God is gonna be the best feeling you've experienced someday. Am happy for you f9 :) Welcome to the wonderful world of Heavenly Father and His love for you  :thumbsup: Personally, I like to hide behind God and under His wings.

Your self-righteous blind faith-based crap is offensive.  It is rejected as sanctimonious superstitious nonsense. This reply returns such under the auspices of the "golden rule."
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: Falconer02 on October 20, 2012, 08:13:00 pm
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You can hide behind all of these historic writers' quotes(and I'm sure its all entertaining to you), but surrendering to Cthulhu is gonna be the best feeling you've experienced someday. Am happy for you f9  Welcome to the wonderful world of blood rituals and His willful destruction of you   Personally, I like to hide behind Cthulhu and under His tentacles.

This is how creepy you sound to any freethinker reading your post.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 20, 2012, 08:17:15 pm
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You can hide behind all of these historic writers' quotes(and I'm sure its all entertaining to you), but surrendering to Cthulhu is gonna be the best feeling you've experienced someday. Am happy for you f9  Welcome to the wonderful world of blood rituals and His willful destruction of you   Personally, I like to hide behind Cthulhu and under His tentacles.

This is how creepy you sound to any freethinker reading your post.

Oh, it's much creepier and more insidious than that; these faith-blinded religious adherents aren't even aware how their self-inflicted blindness affects their (mis)perceptions, even as they tappity-tap in the darkness with their red-tipped canes of irrationality.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: lbryanwf on October 20, 2012, 08:17:39 pm
I really don't think falcon 9 cares one way or another. It's his habit to be a contrarian and pontificate about anything and everything. If indeed you are seriously "offended", falcon9, (I doubt it) then I guess the shoe is on the other foot. However, I think your script is that you have a duty to offend rather than be offended.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 20, 2012, 08:31:31 pm
I really don't think falcon 9 cares one way or another.

It's a mixed reaction.  On the one hand, such 'magical intercessory rituals', (what the faith-blinded call "prayer"), have no evidence of being effective and are therefore moot.  On the other hand, those who are pushing unsolicited intercessory rituals onto someone who finds them offensive are directly trolling/"calling-out by 'nym" in violation of known FC posting policies.  While I'm curious as to why the instigators have not been banned by the moderators, (as some had previously been banned for the same violation), this is a moderator decision and not mine.

It's his habit to be a contrarian ...

That's a mis-characterization, (i.e., lie), since refuting specious religious nonsense is not a "habit"; it's an intentional decision to oppose non-reasoning with reasoning.

and pontificate about anything and everything.

False.  While I've commented/remarked/refuted/contended/opposed/challenged on a number of subjects, these do not include the exagerated "anything and everything".  Such an exageration is generally deemed as a lie.

If indeed you are seriously "offended", falcon9, (I doubt it) then I guess the shoe is on the other foot. However, I think your script is that you have a duty to offend rather than be offended.

Wrong again, xtian.  Reasoning is not your forte; you religious adherents were INITIALLY offensive, (the offensive posts were started by xtians before being responded to by non-xtians).  The actual sequence of events being; xtians offend and insult non-xtians by making pretentious religious claims, non-xtians challenge those specious religious claims, xtians who made those claims failed to substantiate them and become 'offended' and claim faux martyrdom 'offense' at even having their blind faith challenged, xtians pseudo-martyrs then try to obscure this sequence of events to avoid responsibility for being the instigators.  This pretty much summarizes the entire xtian religion.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: fc2 on October 20, 2012, 08:58:48 pm
...but surrendering to God is gonna be the best feeling you've experienced someday. Am happy for you f9 :) Welcome to the wonderful world of Heavenly Father and His love for you  :thumbsup: Personally, I like to hide behind God and under His wings.

Your self-righteous blind faith-based crap is offensive.  It is rejected as sanctimonious superstitious nonsense. This reply returns such under the auspices of the "golden rule."

Your repetitive replies are broken records  ;). "Get some new material champ", Ritchie Tozier of the Stephen King tv movie IT
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 20, 2012, 10:16:34 pm
Your repetitive replies are broken records  ;). "Get some new material champ", Ritchie Tozier of the Stephen King tv movie IT

The repetitive religious propagandizing employed by you religious zealots had exceeded tedious some time ago.  Given that, to expect "new material" in response to old material is unreasonable, (and yet, typical of teh irrationality of religious zealots).
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: Gerianne on October 21, 2012, 06:37:07 am
if Falcon9 doesn't like religious posts, why doesn't he/ she just avoid them???
You don't have to respond, you, know.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: Flackle on October 21, 2012, 06:48:25 am
if Falcon9 doesn't like religious posts, why doesn't he/ she just avoid them???
You don't have to respond, you, know.


As usual this is a weak argument. We don't avoid them because just like those posting religious nonsense, we have an opinion. And just like those who post religious nonsense, we have not only a right but the permission of the owner of this forum to express that opinion. I have seen countless times where a thread started by an atheist is subject to post by a non-atheist. It's not that we HATE religious post in particular, in fact I am personally enthralled when someone post religious nonsense. It's that we have an opinion too, and if those who wish to stop us from posting would just stop to look beyond their own opinions to realize their not the only kinds of people out there they would stop hating on those expressing their dissent of religion and instead focus on defending their own opinions.

This is (or at least ideally should) be a free country. If non-atheist do not want other to disagree with them, then they too should not post to begin with. Ignoring what you disagree with is probably the weakest possible response.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: Optiwoman on October 21, 2012, 06:58:59 am
I honestly don't think you are sorry at all.   This seems to be an intentionally inflamatory post since you know falcon's possition and posted it anyway.
The bible may say to spread the word, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't say go out and beat people over the head with it.  Of course it also says both an eye for an eye, and turn the other cheek - so I guess it's hard to know what you are supposed to do.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: surveysmillenium on October 21, 2012, 07:46:29 am
I couldn't resist reading this thread. I was born into a Catholic family, but my parents were not very devoted to mass. I'm grateful I didn't have religion shoved down my throat, or I would not have the awesome relationship I have with the Father in heaven. Fast forward to the 21st century and I married a great guy, but his family is a part of what I consider to be a very unhealthy religious cult by the name of church of christ. I drank the kool aid and converted because I wanted to make him happy and I believed the propaganda about hell. I left after 2 years and I'm very glad I did. I was disfellowshipped by his family, and it became very clear to me that fanatical christians have absolutely no clue what loving your neighbor is all about. I don't consider myself a christian, and with utmost respect, I firmly believe if Jesus had a press conference he would say he is not christian. Now, I still believe in the Holy Trinity and that is my prerogative, but atheists have the constitutional right to believe in nothing. Telling someone you are praying for them so they can see the "light" when he/she has absolutely no interest in religion is offensive. Christians how would you feel if a Buddhist, one of the most peaceful and tolerant people btw, told you they are praying for you because you are desperately lost and in need of some "real" religion? A Buddhist would not do that so that is an entirely hypothetical situation, but the feeling it should evoke is one of indignation. What is interesting is that Christians have murdered innocent people in the name of religion in a desperate attempt to "save" souls. In the end, we do live in a wonderful country, and members of this board need not fear for their lives due to being atheist. I think the respectful position is to politely disagree with those who are trying to convert and move on, but the member who is the focus of the prayers has an inalienable right to be an unbeliever.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: madeara on October 21, 2012, 07:53:12 am
What a great idea.  I will pray for him as well.  Have a great day!
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: SherylsShado on October 21, 2012, 09:03:25 am
   Another call-out thread from those who enjoy making a spectacle of themselves while requesting unwanted "prayer" for "others"?   ::)
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: bowrunner on October 21, 2012, 09:30:30 am
I no longer read his posts as they are usually hateful so I'm not interested.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: brum7814 on October 21, 2012, 10:01:14 am
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Search: What on earth are you doing Spirit?

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Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: hitch0403 on October 21, 2012, 10:13:16 am
Jesus said when the Pharisses prayed in public to be seen they got their reward in full that way.

Its the same with the Falcons.When they post garbage and repetitive posts about xtians,bible,God etc they are getting their rewards in full the same way as the Pharisses.They think they will get a hearing for all their negative postings in their own minds.Their brains fester in the debauched state of mind more so with each post they write and thats how they want it.

The more they do so the sadder state of mind for each as it grows and grows like a cancer till its un-operable.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: raven1114 on October 21, 2012, 11:13:00 am
Unwanted prayers are not only offensive but they also go against some people beliefs. Also to publicly post that you are praying for someone whom has repeatedly stated they do not want them is nothing more than you simply trying to be a show off.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: dmahoney on October 21, 2012, 11:24:33 am
I appreciate all comments.  I did not know it was against the rules to mention a member by name, as I have seen it done on here numerouse times. My prayers for Falcon are not that he find religion, because I feel that will never happen. My hope is that he will lighten up and give eveyone on here a chance and not be so mean. I am not trying to shove religion down anyones throat as I truely believe we all have a right to our own beliefs. I also believe we also have a right to be treated with respect and that is where he lacks in treating people with his comments. I have nothing against him personally as I do not know him, I just dont agree with his method of disrespect in his posts on every subject. Im sorry if I offended anyone, but these are my opinions.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 21, 2012, 12:16:27 pm
I no longer read his posts as they are usually hateful so I'm not interested.

Yet, you still gossip about someone whose posts you're not reading to interject a specious opinion.  That's not ignoring, it's ignorant.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 21, 2012, 12:19:55 pm
What really happens to jw cultists who proselytize?

When they post garbage and repetitive posts about xtians,bible,God etc they are getting their rewards in full the same way as the Pharisses.They think they will get a hearing for all their negative postings in their own minds.Their brains fester in the debauched state of mind more so with each post they write and thats how they want it.

The more they do so the sadder state of mind for each as it grows and grows like a cancer till its un-operable.

I see, so nothing can be done unless the jw cultist is able to break free from the blind faith mind control of that belief system.  It can be done but, it would take a willingness and courage to question such superstitious beliefs to do so.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 21, 2012, 12:22:18 pm
I did not know it was against the rules to mention a member by name, as I have seen it done on here numerouse times.

It isn't just a "mention", a calling-out thread is one in which a specific FC member is named and flamed and that's what you've been reported for doing since it violates FC posting policy.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 21, 2012, 12:24:34 pm
Unwanted prayers are not only offensive but they also go against some people beliefs. Also to publicly post that you are praying for someone whom has repeatedly stated they do not want them is nothing more than you simply trying to be a show off.

That's precisely it; thanks "raven".  Though in this instance, posting such in a calling out thread is intended to goad/agitate/troll/flame the one named and that's against FC posting policies.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 21, 2012, 12:27:49 pm
   Another call-out thread from those who enjoy making a spectacle of themselves while requesting unwanted "prayer" for "others"?   ::)

Yes, another - some do not learn, even when it's happened before.  Now, under the "golden rule", a 'request' for, say a voudoun ritual on behalf of the persons who are 'praying against me' would be permissible.  I'll let them wonder whether or not they're 'golden'.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: momoney555 on October 21, 2012, 12:52:01 pm
Falcon 9 is indeed entitled to his opinion.  It is not his beliefs that bother me as much as the hateful tone of his posts.  He seems to feel that he is somehow being personally attacked by harmless, unassuming Christians who post with no intention of even talking to him, and he has to immediately strike back, thereby drawing them into some sort of sick argument which was never the intention of their post, but was the intention of his.  I placed him on ignore months ago after he attempted to draw me into one of his sick arguments when I started a post just out of curiosity about other people who had experienced miraculous answers to prayer.  I see him as a sorrowful little person who has decided that he is going to relentlessly box with GOD.  Someone needs to tell him that his arms are far too short for that.  It certainly wont hurt to pray for him.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: BlackSheepNY on October 21, 2012, 01:02:32 pm
Of course, all of this could just be a big joke.  Did you ever hear this song?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFJu8DCH_b0
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 21, 2012, 01:03:04 pm
Falcon 9 is indeed entitled to his opinion.  It is not his beliefs that bother me as much as the hateful tone of his posts. 

Reasoned conclusions of disbelief which do not require 'faith' are not religious"beliefs", nor are they "hateful".
 
He seems to feel that he is somehow being personally attacked by harmless, unassuming Christians who post with no intention of even talking to him ...

That's so manifestly false, (evidence to teh contrary exists in various threads and forums, including this thread), that the only possible conclusion is that you intended to lie about it and did.  This thread, which you are posting in, contains several "attacks" by different xtians, (and some replies which are not attacks, by non-xtians plus one xtian).

I placed him on ignore months ago ...

Yet, here you are, gossiping about someone you're not ignoring.

It certainly wont hurt to pray for him.

It's an unsolicited and unwanted magical intercessory ritual and as such, is intentional offensive.  Such offensive intercessory 'magic' will not "help" either but, that's not the point since the manifest intention of the OP was to be offensive, despite denying it.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: Ronnis25 on October 21, 2012, 01:29:14 pm

I pray everyday for sinners.  But to create a post to anger him is giving the devil a hand in cursing our God.  I will pray for him.  However we should be more like Jesus and love him/her not shame him/her.  Sorry some say it is a her and some say him, so I was covering all bases.
God Bless All
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: vp44 on October 21, 2012, 01:31:17 pm
Unwanted prayers are not only offensive but they also go against some people beliefs. Also to publicly post that you are praying for someone whom has repeatedly stated they do not want them is nothing more than you simply trying to be a show off.
You pray for all if this is in you. Whether they want it or not, its still your prayers.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: vickysue on October 21, 2012, 01:32:00 pm
At times he can be very offensive, and does not care who he offends as long as it makes him feel like a big boy,  and we are not suppose to offend him. Sounds like a little boy using grown up words just to make himself feel better.  
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 21, 2012, 01:52:11 pm
Unwanted prayers are not only offensive but they also go against some people beliefs. Also to publicly post that you are praying for someone whom has repeatedly stated they do not want them is nothing more than you simply trying to be a show off.


You pray for all if this is in you. Whether they want it or not, its still your prayers.

Both she, another xtian and I have just stated that such is offensive and I'll add that it's sanctimonious and self-righteous to insist on being offensive in this way.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: pattersondebra on October 21, 2012, 01:55:31 pm
WOW! With all those fighting cancer or dealing with a loss of a loved one, I have a hard time reading a request for a prayer for something so rediculous. I for one am busy praying for those who seriously need them.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 21, 2012, 01:56:29 pm
At times he can be very offensive, and does not care who he offends as long as it makes him feel like a big boy,  and we are not suppose to offend him. Sounds like a little boy using grown up words just to make himself feel better.  

Sounds like you're someone who has no ability to reason whatsoever because you've just demonstrated that inability once again.  The 'offense', in simple terms for simpletons, is that this trhead was posted by a supposed xtian as a "calling out" thread specifically to troll a specific member of FC by 'nym.  Other band-wagoneers such as yourself then jumped in to help flame, (while a few posted in opposition to this calling out thread).  Your petty and childish misinterpretations are specious opinion without basis; just like your religious belief system.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 21, 2012, 02:00:19 pm
I will pray for him.  

Others, (including me), have already stated that doing so is offensive therefore, your intent is to be offensive.  Under the auspices of the "golden rule", I'd be permitted to return such an offense.  Feel free to speculate on the form that may or may not take.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: JediJohnnie on October 21, 2012, 02:03:03 pm
Matt 5:43-44

“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’  But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven."

The Lord couldn't make it any clearer than that,friends.
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: falcon9 on October 21, 2012, 02:18:24 pm
'Thanks' for adding your offensive bible-thumping to a calling-out thread begun by another xtian.  It helps to substantiate the intent in trolling a specific member of FC by 'nym.

Matt 5:43-44
Title: Re: pray for Falcon9
Post by: Administrator on October 21, 2012, 04:02:20 pm
Callout threads are not permitted