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Where will you spend your eternity?
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decomposing in the earth, just like everyone else.
Where will you spend your eternity?
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While my outer body will decompose in the earth, my soul will spend eternity in Heaven with my Lord.:)
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While my outer body will decompose in the earth, my soul will spend eternity in Heaven with my Lord.:)
That's an unfounded religious belief which lacks any evidence whatsoever, (which makes it a self-deception). It's unfounded because is rests upon religious "faith", which is itself, unfounded, (lacks supporting evidence of what such "faith" is in). Such a "faith" is blind due to that lack of substantiation and blindness is a leading cause of stumbling around in the darkness.
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While my outer body will decompose in the earth, my soul will spend eternity in Heaven with my Lord.:)
That's an unfounded religious belief which lacks any evidence whatsoever, (which makes it a self-deception). It's unfounded because is rests upon religious "faith", which is itself, unfounded, (lacks supporting evidence of what such "faith" is in). Such a "faith" is blind due to that lack of substantiation and blindness is a leading cause of stumbling around in the darkness.
Yes, I know that's what it seems to dis-believers. :)
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While my outer body will decompose in the earth, my soul will spend eternity in Heaven with my Lord.:)
That's an unfounded religious belief which lacks any evidence whatsoever, (which makes it a self-deception). It's unfounded because is rests upon religious "faith", which is itself, unfounded, (lacks supporting evidence of what such "faith" is in). Such a "faith" is blind due to that lack of substantiation and blindness is a leading cause of stumbling around in the darkness.
Yes, I know that's what it seems to dis-believers. :)
No, it is that way to rational thinking and logical reasoning however, doubtless it is fine by irrationality and illogical non-reasoning.
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While my outer body will decompose in the earth, my soul will spend eternity in Heaven with my Lord.:)
That's an unfounded religious belief which lacks any evidence whatsoever, (which makes it a self-deception). It's unfounded because is rests upon religious "faith", which is itself, unfounded, (lacks supporting evidence of what such "faith" is in). Such a "faith" is blind due to that lack of substantiation and blindness is a leading cause of stumbling around in the darkness.
Yes, I know that's what it seems to dis-believers. :)
No, it is that way to rational thinking and logical reasoning however, doubtless it is fine by irrationality and illogical non-reasoning.
It's to each person's personal preference and choice how they come to their decisions. :)
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It's to each person's personal preference and choice how they come to their decisions. :)
It sure is. Some will arrive at their decisions using irrational processes to arrive at unreasonable decisions, (religious adherents), while others will choose to be more rational and use logical reasoning to arrive at reasonable decisions.
So, if someone is hungry and decides upon methods to obtain food; this is a rational decision-making process which is beneficial to the hungry person. On the other hand, if someone else is hungry and they 'decide' to perform some magical intercessory ritual while rolling down a grassy hill into a pond; that's not a rational decision-making process. Choice is one thing; nutbag is another.
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It's to each person's personal preference and choice how they come to their decisions. :)
It sure is. Some will arrive at their decisions using irrational processes to arrive at unreasonable decisions, (religious adherents), while others will choose to be more rational and use logical reasoning to arrive at reasonable decisions.
So, if someone is hungry and decides upon methods to obtain food; this is a rational decision-making process which is beneficial to the hungry person. On the other hand, if someone else is hungry and they 'decide' to perform some magical intercessory ritual while rolling down a grassy hill into a pond; that's not a rational decision-making process. Choice is one thing; nutbag is another.
Don't forget there will also be those hungry few, who refuse to work for their food, and will steal food, steal money, or whatever it takes to feed themselves. That's certainly not a rational thing to do and is not magical intercessory rituals either!
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Don't forget there will also be those hungry few, who refuse to work for their food, and will steal food, steal money, or whatever it takes to feed themselves. That's certainly not a rational thing to do and is not magical intercessory rituals either!
Some people will toss whatever amount of rationality they had out the door once they're hungry enough. Religions count on this trait.
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Don't forget there will also be those hungry few, who refuse to work for their food, and will steal food, steal money, or whatever it takes to feed themselves. That's certainly not a rational thing to do and is not magical intercessory rituals either!
Some people will toss whatever amount of rationality they had out the door once they're hungry enough. Religions count on this trait.
Maybe some religions do, but I don't, and my religious faith, or sect, doesn't either. Thank goodness there are many churches out there who have benevolent funds, food pantries, clothes, etc., in which to offer help to those who need it and/or ask for it.
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Don't forget there will also be those hungry few, who refuse to work for their food, and will steal food, steal money, or whatever it takes to feed themselves. That's certainly not a rational thing to do and is not magical intercessory rituals either!
Some people will toss whatever amount of rationality they had out the door once they're hungry enough. Religions count on this trait.
Maybe some religions do, but I don't, and my religious faith, or sect, doesn't either. Thank goodness there are many churches out there who have benevolent funds, food pantries, clothes, etc., in which to offer help to those who need it and/or ask for it.
That's precisely what I meant about some religions counting on it so that they can feed and proselytize at the same time. How much food would a starving 'satanist' get if they refused the religious propaganda portion of the xtian "benevolence" and thanked the xtians in the name of "satan"?
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Don't forget there will also be those hungry few, who refuse to work for their food, and will steal food, steal money, or whatever it takes to feed themselves. That's certainly not a rational thing to do and is not magical intercessory rituals either!
Some people will toss whatever amount of rationality they had out the door once they're hungry enough. Religions count on this trait.
Maybe some religions do, but I don't, and my religious faith, or sect, doesn't either. Thank goodness there are many churches out there who have benevolent funds, food pantries, clothes, etc., in which to offer help to those who need it and/or ask for it.
That's precisely what I meant about some religions counting on it so that they can feed and proselytize at the same time. How much food would a starving 'satanist' get if they refused the religious propaganda portion of the xtian "benevolence" and thanked the xtians in the name of "satan"?
All I can really say to that is that as long as a needy person is being given what he/she needs, that is the most important thing taking place. Most churches with those type of programs don't proselytize when giving or offering to needy people. They just do it, and if anyone is crying, depressed, or scared, then they are asked how can they help them.
Many will provide shelter or a place to go for shelter or protection. If someone asks for prayer, then yes, they will be prayed over. All the people representing the church are trying to do is share their compassion and whatever the people need, at that moment in their lives, to help them through a rough spot, so they can continue on their way.
It doesn't matter, either, what color, gender, lifestyle, religion/no religion, anyone is who needs help - they will receive the help they need. Now, realize, I'm speaking of most churches who provide these type of things. Some churches don't do any of that, and I am sure there are some who will definitely push their "salvation plan" on them - I can't speak for all. But most of the ones I know of, or have worked with, or have seen, honestly show compassion and care for the needy when they need it, with no questions asked, nor any thing pushed on them.
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Most churches with those type of programs don't proselytize when giving or offering to needy people.
That contention is not reflected by evidentiary data to the contrary.
I am sure there are some who will definitely push their "salvation plan" on them - I can't speak for all.
"Some", in that context, is like calling the subtropical storm "Sandy" a little gust. Both are vast understatements.
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Where will you spend your eternity?
I wouldn't know since no human has had such an experience. Saying one does know w/o any proofs at all is laughably arrogant. But if you want me to speculate...I'd say...Valhalla? That'd be awesome!
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Where will you spend your eternity?
I wouldn't know since no human has had such an experience. Saying one does know w/o any proofs at all is laughably arrogant. But if you want me to speculate...I'd say...Valhalla? That'd be awesome!
One thing we all know by observance is the physical body going into the ground. You would enjoy Valhalla, aye?
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Where will you spend your eternity?
I wouldn't know since no human has had such an experience. Saying one does know w/o any proofs at all is laughably arrogant. But if you want me to speculate...I'd say...Valhalla? That'd be awesome!
One thing we all know by observance is the physical body going into the ground.
Cremated ashes scattered at sea in a "viking" funeral would contradict that "observance".
You would enjoy Valhalla, aye?
Maybe he forgot about the "Valkeries", (or, is looking forward to them)?
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"I" won't spend it anywhere since "I" am my brain, and my brain will no longer function.
I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. - Mark Twain
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"I" won't spend it anywhere since "I" am my brain, and my brain will no longer function.
I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it. - Mark Twain
Where will you spend your eternity?
You are making a big mistake. How do you live from day to day the breath you take where it comes from? when you lay down to sleep how do you know you will rise again, and it you don't what you think happen to you?
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How do you live from day to day the breath you take where it comes from?
Oxygen molecules in the air.
when you lay down to sleep how do you know you will rise again, and it you don't what you think happen to you?
I don't know that I will. I could be murdered in my sleep (but that's highly unlikely). I could die from some freak object hitting my house (also highly unlikely). Or I could die from natural causes; but that's probably the most unlikely of all, given my age and that there are usually symptoms that can be caught leading up to whatever would ail me. Statistically speaking, I have a near 100 percent chance of rising again for the next 30 years or more.
If I were to die in my sleep, I would never be aware of it. My body would remain in the bed until discovered by my unfortunate husband, who would begin the proceedings to cremate my remains. What I call "I" would be permanently shut off, for "I" is contained entirely in the brain. "I" would be in the exact same state as I was prior to my birth. "I" won't exist.
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Eze 18 :4......the soul that sins dies
Nothing separate about it....God told Adam at death back to dust
Non-existence
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That's not necessarily true, troll. It's just that there's no proof to say otherwise. After all, we are getting paid to show that you're wrong constantly. Thanks for that! Hahaha! ;)
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[-abysmal lack of the courage of his convictions-]
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(http://i.imgur.com/O29dt.jpg)
If people of the past never "wasted the short time they have here" on issues that mattered, our world would be very different, and not for the better. THINK before you post cutesy retorts, because they only make you look like an ignorant idiot.
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the devil is very real... and god is watching you... and its pointless to debate it with a blind, non-believer...but if you die and your not saved what will you say then? its too late... if you read the bible and understood it, you would appreciate the scripture and the story, and its value and morals...and you will be happier... its sad when people are not willing to grow spiritually...and not willing to gain wisdom from the bible. its story is too much to say its not real if you actually sat down and read it
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the devil is very real...
If so, there would be unambiguous evidence to support that superstitious religious contention. Got any that isn't faith-based 'biblical'?
...and god is watching you...
If so, there would be unambiguous evidence to support that superstitious religious contention. Got any that isn't faith-based 'biblical'?
...and its pointless to debate it with a blind, non-believer...
Faith-blinded 'believers' like you don't "debate"; they just make illogical assertions about those who aren't blinded by faith and get refuted.
...but if you die and your not saved what will you say then? its too late...
The religious concept of being "saved" has no factual basis because it's a religious superstition based upon specious belief/blind faith instead.
...its sad when people are not willing to grow spiritually...and not willing to gain wisdom from the bible.
Those are two mutually-exclusive contentions and the latter contains an unsubstantiated religious opinion.
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Pushing something on other make no sense at all, We all created with choices we must see the need for something in order to accepted it, That is why God created us and give us a choice between right and wrong heave or hell it/s very clear,
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Pushing something on other make no sense at all, We all created with choices we must see the need for something in order to accepted it, That is why God created us and give us a choice between right and wrong heave or hell it/s very clear ...
Both of those religiously-based assumptions constitute "pushing something", (evangelizing), and are faith-based beliefs which others choose not to hold, (and not because some hypothetical supernatural entity "gave" that choice).
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im going to find out...in the groovy kingdom of heaven...and if your a non-believer i feel sorry for you :bootyshake:
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im going to find out...in the groovy kingdom of heaven...and if your a non-believer i feel sorry for you :bootyshake:
That's your superstitious belief and one which has no evidentiary basis, (which means it's irrational however, nothing says you can't hold irrational and illogical superstitious 'beliefs' - just as nothing says that those ought to be unopposed).
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Matthew 5: 44-45 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that cures you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you,and presecute you; That ye may be the children of your father which is in heaven; for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good,and sendeth rain on the just and the unjust.
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"... despitefully use you,and presecute you ..."
Posting rational views which dissent from superstitious religious beliefs does not constitute 'persecution', despite faux-martyr claims to the opposite.
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There nothing in this world that is not by faith base. Think about this, it take faith to say what you are saying. Because that is your understanding, so that is how you believe. What do you call that?
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the devil is very real... and god is watching you... and its pointless to debate it with a blind, non-believer...but if you die and your not saved what will you say then? its too late... iits sad when people are not willing to grow spiritually...and not willing to gain wisdom from the bible. its story is too much to say its not real if you actually sat down and read it
Pascal's wager. If you were that adamant on getting to a good afterlife, I suggest you start studying the other thousands of "true" belief systems. If you're going to say you know your belief system is the one true belief system, then you'll have to prove it by surpassing basic skepticism. But since you say it's pointless to debate, you are the picture-perfect example of ignorance and arrogance-- a major reason your belief system is slowly disappearing.
f you read the bible and understood it, you would appreciate the scripture and the story, and its value and morals...and you will be happier...
Sorry, but I don't respect people who value slavery, genocide, or the barbaric treatment of women. Perhaps you should read it with an open mind rather than skipping to all the sugary parts.
its sad when people are not willing to grow spiritually...and not willing to gain wisdom from the bible. its story is too much to say its not real if you actually sat down and read it
im going to find out...in the groovy kingdom of heaven...and if your a non-believer i feel sorry for you
It is very obvious you haven't. However I do hope you enjoy your "groovy" fantasy if it exists.
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I am a little confused by this whole thread. The thread was entitled "Bible" and then asked "Where will you spend eternity?"
Is this post not asking where the Bible will spend eternity?
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Is this post not asking where the Bible will spend eternity?
That's a good point...
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In heaven watching nonbelivers running from the devil wishing they were with us. :angel11:
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In heaven watching nonbelivers running from the devil wishing they were with us.
Though it's obviously based upon fiction and superstition, your malicious and arrogant behavior is noted.
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The bible stay by my side all day and everyday but sometimes in my head because anybody that stay with the lord is famous and you will never know what might happen if you dont keep the word close to you .
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If there's a heaven I'll go there, if there isn't I'll just rot, if reincarnation is real, I hope to be an NFL Quarterback.
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There nothing in this world that is not by faith base. Think about this, it take faith to say what you are saying. Because that is your understanding, so that is how you believe. What do you call that?
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The bible stay by my side all day and everyday but sometimes in my head because anybody that stay with the lord is famous and you will never know what might happen if you dont keep the word close to you .
You wouldn't have a door stop handy if you didn't keep it around all the time? :D
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I will spend eternity in heaven with Jesus Christ because I accepted him as my savior and Lord. I hope everyone who reads my response have done the same.