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Title: Do YOU believe in MIRACLES ??????
Post by: dbenjamin on March 19, 2013, 04:37:54 am
Your MIRACLE may be taking a longtime but God didn't bring you this far to leave you ..... I believe in MIRACLES and have the patience and the faith to wait on the LORD.
Deliverance is mine says the Lord . Walking the path of rightousness. I'm not perfect ,far from yet all is well in the presence of the Lord.

I'm waiting for my MIRACLE........
:angel11:
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Post by: levettepough on March 19, 2013, 08:01:44 am
Your MIRACLE may be taking a longtime but God didn't bring you this far to leave you ..... I believe in MIRACLES and have the patience and the faith to wait on the LORD.
Deliverance is mine says the Lord . Walking the path of rightousness. I'm not perfect ,far from yet all is well in the presence of the Lord.

I'm waiting for my MIRACLE........
:angel11:
The reason I believe in miracles because I am a miracle
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Post by: Falconer02 on March 19, 2013, 11:09:52 am
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I'm waiting for my MIRACLE........

What "miracle" are you waiting for?
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Post by: nhendrickson on March 19, 2013, 12:03:12 pm
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I'm waiting for my MIRACLE........

What "miracle" are you waiting for?

Probably getting paid to post here although that really isn't a miracle since it happens once you have enough to cash out and you take the proper steps to do so.  So perhaps "miracles" happen when people get off their duffs and actually do something to make something they desire happen?

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Post by: Sciolaro on March 19, 2013, 01:55:26 pm
No.
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Post by: pfeliciano on March 28, 2013, 08:02:30 am
I see miricles everyday of my life.  My life is blessed because I have the Heavenly Father with me at all times.
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Post by: twol on March 28, 2013, 01:52:52 pm
No, I do not believe in miracles
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Post by: LovelyxOdd on March 29, 2013, 12:03:56 pm
I believe in miracles in the non-religious aspect such as something happening that is near impossible. But I don't believe in god so no I don't believe in miracles that are made possible by god.
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Post by: dreamyxo on March 29, 2013, 10:26:24 pm
I believe there are many things we can't explain or won't understand in this world.
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Post by: tzs on March 29, 2013, 11:23:08 pm
OK, my mother is extremely religious and explained to me that through the "miracle of prayer" that she did not have lung cancer. According to the docs at the time, they said that they were only lesions in her lungs. So she went off on her rant saying  " Praise the Lord!!! I don't have cancer, just lesions, and it was because of prayer!!"  She swore up and down that I needed to get religion in my life and that God works in mysterious ways, to which I said "sure Mom.....whatever works for you, but it ain't gonna happen.
 
Two weeks later, a second scan was done, showing that she was in stage 2 cancer. I had nothing to say. So no, I don't believe in miracles, I believe in the real....I put all of my faith in her strength and the docs that are taking care of her now. Her cancer is very real, and no amount of prayer is gonna take it away. I don't want to change her beliefs if it gives her comfort, but my beliefs will remain solid, and the subject of religion and miracles are non-existent in my life. I believe you make your own fate, and it is influenced by your interactions with others in this world, family, friends, co-workers, even complete strangers-Not by belief in miracles.


Reality sucks, deal with it! No hiding behind a lull of faith and miracles.
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Post by: Falconer02 on March 30, 2013, 12:22:08 am
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Reality sucks, deal with it! No hiding behind a lull of faith and miracles.

Agreed, however I will say that people like us must be careful how to tread with the religious when it comes to ailments. I do believe that if them believing in such things does make them feel better or gives them a boost of confidence in their current stuggle, not much harm is coming from it (unless they're giving 10,000$ to a faith healer or something). Sometimes it's more moral to just nod and play along.

Sorry to hear of your mother's predicament though. I truly hope it is treatable and that she recovers from it. Many people do!
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Post by: minervaspirit on March 30, 2013, 12:39:04 am
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Reality sucks, deal with it! No hiding behind a lull of faith and miracles.

... people like us must be careful how to tread with the religious when it comes to ailments. I do believe that if them believing in such things does make them feel better or gives them a boost of confidence in their current stuggle, not much harm is coming from it (unless they're giving 10,000$ to a faith healer or something). Sometimes it's more moral to just nod and play along.

Sorry to hear of your mother's predicament though. I truly hope it is treatable and that she recovers from it. Many people do!

I agree with your advice.  In grad school I researched the relationship between stress and cancer and am convinced that a positive mind set can help your body fight disease.  Has to do with boosting the immune system.  In any event it's important not to take away hope. You can present someone with the realities of the situation but emphasize that each person is unique.  How the individual's illness progresses will be their own unique version of what is "usual" as well.
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Post by: home2013 on March 30, 2013, 09:11:40 am
Not sure if it was considered a miracle or not but it sure was for me. I feel as though I have had one.
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Post by: sammywantsya on March 31, 2013, 07:13:55 am
if people always say negative stuff in their lives... its their own fault for not thinkin postive.. ur life will suck when thinking it that way... haveing miracles and faith dont hurt.. just let them be.. jeeze..
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Post by: tzs on March 31, 2013, 08:45:38 pm
if people always say negative stuff in their lives... its their own fault for not thinkin postive.. ur life will suck when thinking it that way... haveing miracles and faith dont hurt.. just let them be.. jeeze..
  There is a big difference from being negative all the time to being real. Being real about life has its positive moments and it's negative moments. It's a mixture, which gives you a choice, How you take it or handle it is up to you.   Just because my mother has cancer doesn't mean that I am thinking the worst all of the time, I just don't sugar coat the true meaning of things, because that will set you up for a major dissapointment later.(reguardeless of her faith in God in which I totally disagree with).
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Post by: webe4angels on April 01, 2013, 12:43:52 am
I am also waiting for my miracle.

I do believe in miracles.. and that everything happens for a reason.
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Post by: Flackle on April 01, 2013, 11:26:55 am
if people always say negative stuff in their lives... its their own fault for not thinkin postive.. ur life will suck when thinking it that way... haveing miracles and faith dont hurt.. just let them be.. jeeze..

So again, when a theist shares his/her opinion then that's okay and should be encouraged because their opinions are not hurting anyone. When an atheist shares his/her opinion (which is naturally a form a dissent) then they are intentionally harming other people and should stop, right?

Having faith and miracles DOES hurt. It takes place of actual faith in humanity, which is a lot more real and a lot more reliable. Believing in fairy tails is not a substitute for real hope and real achievement.
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Post by: SweetApril74 on April 01, 2013, 11:42:08 am
I do I do.... and It is beautiful thinking about miracles....
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Post by: sammywantsya on April 01, 2013, 12:13:47 pm
look whos trolling the thread now lol xD...
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Post by: queenofnines on April 01, 2013, 01:06:15 pm
Not the invisible friend kind. It's foolish to think an entity can pick and choose the most random of things to perform "miracles" on.
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Post by: gwendolynconrad on April 01, 2013, 02:46:52 pm
Yes I believe in MIRACLES GOD is a miracle worker and I do believe this, just try him and believe. :heart: :heart: :heart:
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Post by: joker365247 on April 01, 2013, 04:13:46 pm
i believe in the every day miracles. waking up next to my beautiful wife every morning, the smiles on the face of my amazing kids, what other miracles could anyone really hope for.
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Post by: nannycoe1 on April 02, 2013, 06:16:46 am
I do believe in miracles! God performs them daily even though we as humans don't realize it.
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Post by: ghunter on April 02, 2013, 06:49:59 am
Quote from Lovelyodd
I believe in miracles in the non-religious aspect such as something happening that is near impossible. But I don't believe in god so no I don't believe in miracles that are made possible by god.
I feel so sorry for you, because you do not beleive in God.  I wonder how do you think this world got here, the trees, birds, the dogs, cats, fishes, just everything in this world.  Do you think MAN made them or what some being from outer space? God is good and he make YOU.
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Post by: queenofnines on April 02, 2013, 10:22:18 am
I feel so sorry for you, because you do not beleive in God.

What's there to feel sorry for? You're sorry that they don't lead a life hampered by mental delusion that wastes time, money and resources? Or you're sorry that they're going to burn in your imaginary monster pit for ever and ever (never mind the fact that our universe in its current form won't even last forever)?

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I wonder how do you think this world got here, the trees, birds, the dogs, cats, fishes, just everything in this world.  Do you think MAN made them or what some being from outer space?[/color]

We no longer live in a time where we have to conjure up our "best guess" as to how things came to be. We have scientific evidence to rely on; we've matured beyond our need for primitive, childish beliefs as to how the world works. Well, at least some of us have.  :P That you feel you have to ask WHO created the universe shows how uneducated and ignorant you are.

WHO created god? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODetOE6cbbc&list=UULhtZqdkjshgq8TqwIjMdCQ&index=1
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Post by: nguzman1 on April 02, 2013, 10:48:13 am
I do believe in miracles they might be rare but possible.
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Post by: joker365247 on April 02, 2013, 11:10:41 am
while i happen believe that god and the devil are nothing more than than constructs of the human imagination, you should not be putting down anyone's beliefs. whether you believe the universe was created by an all powerful omnipotent being or came about as the result of the explosion of a super massive singularity, we should take the time to marvel at the fact that and we are here at all. faith as never is never bad as long as it good and true and you use it to make yourself better, not hurt others.  :peace: :peace:
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Post by: Falconer02 on April 02, 2013, 10:55:39 pm
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you should not be putting down anyone's beliefs.

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faith as never is never bad as long as it good and true and you use it to make yourself better, not hurt others.

Though I partially agree with you, these two statements are why sometimes putting down someone's beliefs is sound judgement and beneficial.
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Post by: NempieBlues on April 03, 2013, 02:36:42 am
Not unless I actually see one with my own eyes.  That hasn't happened yet.
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Post by: camellia0 on April 03, 2013, 04:06:39 am
I believe in miracles. Sometimes what we cant may not happen because it wasn't in God's plan for us.
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Post by: tammypete on April 03, 2013, 06:16:18 am
Yes I believe in miracles!  Through Christ ALL things are possible!!!!
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Post by: msmoneybags48 on April 03, 2013, 08:05:00 am
Yes, I believe in miracles.  If you think positive, positive things will happen.  There are babies that are miracles because, despite the odds, they survived.  Negative thoughts bring negative results.  I still have my faith, regardless. :angel12: :angel11: :angel12:
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Post by: jcribb16 on April 03, 2013, 09:57:13 pm
while i happen believe that god and the devil are nothing more than than constructs of the human imagination, you should not be putting down anyone's beliefs. whether you believe the universe was created by an all powerful omnipotent being or came about as the result of the explosion of a super massive singularity, we should take the time to marvel at the fact that and we are here at all. faith as never is never bad as long as it good and true and you use it to make yourself better, not hurt others.  :peace: :peace:

Thank you for saying this.  :)
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Post by: jcalexis on April 04, 2013, 07:25:48 pm
I believe in miracle. Being in existence is a big miracle.
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Post by: ecollum on April 26, 2013, 09:17:33 pm
I do beleive in miracles.  The Lord works in wonderful ways.
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Post by: levettepough on April 27, 2013, 12:43:06 am
I do beleive in miracles.  The Lord works in wonderful ways.
Yes i so because I am a miracle.
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Post by: twol on April 28, 2013, 10:04:35 am
No, I do not believe in miracles
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Post by: gramev64 on April 29, 2013, 05:47:45 pm
I certainly do believe in miracles, why shouldn't we?  God is the same God who performed healing, raising from the dead, etc.  He is the same, yesterday, today, and forever!
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Post by: Marie6744 on April 29, 2013, 10:23:09 pm
I believe in miracles as one of my friends sons is living proof of miracles as he was in a critical car wreck quite a few years ago and the family was told that he wasn't going to make it and if he did he would be a vegetable.   He proved everyone wrong as he made a complete recovery and is living proof of a true miracle.
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Post by: sammywantsya on April 30, 2013, 01:55:30 am
i also belive... but for people who bash it has problems of thier own.. they need to re evulate themselfs better..
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Post by: Flackle on April 30, 2013, 07:48:07 am
i also belive... but for people who bash it has problems of thier own.. they need to re evulate themselfs better..

[sarcasm]I agree. People who bash religion by disagreeing with it and having a different opinion are simply mentally incompetent, and should re evaluate the way they think so that they too can realize miracles, although having absolutely no scientific evidence nor any convincing studies done to show that supernatural occurrences not only cause miracles but even occur at all, we should still simply blindly believe that miracles happen and base our reality on something we can't prove. Because that makes a lot more sense than basing our reality on things we can prove, like that those crazy mentally insane atheist's do.[/sarcasm]
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Post by: sammywantsya on April 30, 2013, 02:55:32 pm
^^^^ as you can see bashes with the highest extent.. big EGO xD This guy just wont leave it alone there like kids wanting attention saying how better they are...


sad really

and im glad you agree [sarcasmn]
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Post by: 2getherwewin on April 30, 2013, 04:52:43 pm
DO I BELIEVE IN MIRACLES YES I DO WHEN I WAS 16 I WAS HIT BY A TAXI CAB I WAS THRONE ABOUT 20 FT I DID NOT BROKE ANY BONES JUST A FEW SCRATCHES. I'M ALIVE THAT MY MIRACLE
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Post by: am28slone on April 30, 2013, 04:57:32 pm
Yes, I most definitely believe in miracles and I have seen them in action many times. Some have lost faith in God and that miracles don't exist but they do. It is just not fate that Good or bad things happen, things happen for a reason. Miracles happen because people have faith in God. They hang on to the truth. Miracles do not always happen when we want them too, but they come according to God's Will.
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Post by: healthfreedom on April 30, 2013, 08:58:51 pm
Miracles are very possible for those who believe. God can do what is impossible for man. God does work miracles today, despite the denial of people today.
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Post by: Flackle on May 01, 2013, 05:04:56 pm
^^^^ as you can see bashes with the highest extent.. big EGO xD This guy just wont leave it alone there like kids wanting attention saying how better they are...


sad really

and im glad you agree [sarcasmn]

At least I bash ideas, instead of bashing other people with ad hominem attacks.

So let me get this right...

If I was a christian, then I would be fully allowed to express my opinion without question. I would be allowed to say anything, no matter how ridiculous, without being criticized for expressing this opinion (by you).

On the other hand, being an atheist, if I express my opinion then I am an egotistical hater who should be censored because I am obviously mentally unstable.

Please define egotism, we clearly don't have the same definition of the term.
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Post by: melman1 on May 01, 2013, 06:21:48 pm
Though I partially agree with you, these two statements are why sometimes putting down someone's beliefs is sound judgement and beneficial.

Putting someone down simply because they don't believe in the same things you do is not beneficial in any way, shape, or form, and saying something so ridiculous, in my opinion, shows a serious lack of judgement. I don't know whether or not God exists, and I really don't care, but in America everyone has a right to believe the way they want to without being put down because of it. A miracle is defined as a supernatural event. If people who believe in God want to attribute these events to their deity, who does it hurt?   :peace:  :heart:  :icon_rr:  
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Post by: Flackle on May 01, 2013, 07:59:12 pm
Though I partially agree with you, these two statements are why sometimes putting down someone's beliefs is sound judgement and beneficial.

Putting someone down simply because they don't believe in the same things you do is not beneficial in any way, shape, or form, and saying something so ridiculous, in my opinion, shows a serious lack of judgement. I don't know whether or not God exists, and I really don't care, but in America everyone has a right to believe the way they want to without being put down because of it. A miracle is defined as a supernatural event. If people who believe in God want to attribute these events to their deity, who does it hurt?   :peace:  :heart:  :icon_rr:  

Excuse me, but the freedom to speech assumes we also have the freedom to put down other people. You don't have a right not to be offended, and if we want to put down someone because we think what they believe is ridiculous we should have the full right to do so.

Payer can cause plenty of harm, when used in place of real actual science.
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Post by: melman1 on May 02, 2013, 09:06:57 pm
Though I partially agree with you, these two statements are why sometimes putting down someone's beliefs is sound judgement and beneficial.

Putting someone down simply because they don't believe in the same things you do is not beneficial in any way, shape, or form, and saying something so ridiculous, in my opinion, shows a serious lack of judgement. I don't know whether or not God exists, and I really don't care, but in America everyone has a right to believe the way they want to without being put down because of it. A miracle is defined as a supernatural event. If people who believe in God want to attribute these events to their deity, who does it hurt?   :peace:  :heart:  :icon_rr:  

Excuse me, but the freedom to speech assumes we also have the freedom to put down other people. You don't have a right not to be offended, and if we want to put down someone because we think what they believe is ridiculous we should have the full right to do so.

Payer can cause plenty of harm, when used in place of real actual science.

Wow! Now we're rewriting the Bill of Rights? First off, there's an old saying about assuming things, I'm sure you know the one I mean. Secondly, "you don't have the right not to be offended"? Exactly what does that mean, that you would force me to take offense at something that doesn't bother me? Does that really make sense to you?
Prayer never hurt anyone, it's fanaticism that causes all the problems. If your belief in something, whether it's for God or against God, is so blind that you have to attack someone, verbally or otherwise, then in my opinion you're a fanatic and cannot be reasoned with. After reading some of your previous posts, Flackle, I have concluded that having a conversation with you on this subject is useless, so I hope you have a nice life and I wish you all the best.   :peace:  :heart:  :icon_rr:
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Post by: Flackle on May 04, 2013, 01:27:17 pm
Though I partially agree with you, these two statements are why sometimes putting down someone's beliefs is sound judgement and beneficial.

Putting someone down simply because they don't believe in the same things you do is not beneficial in any way, shape, or form, and saying something so ridiculous, in my opinion, shows a serious lack of judgement. I don't know whether or not God exists, and I really don't care, but in America everyone has a right to believe the way they want to without being put down because of it. A miracle is defined as a supernatural event. If people who believe in God want to attribute these events to their deity, who does it hurt?   :peace:  :heart:  :icon_rr:  

Excuse me, but the freedom to speech assumes we also have the freedom to put down other people. You don't have a right not to be offended, and if we want to put down someone because we think what they believe is ridiculous we should have the full right to do so.

Payer can cause plenty of harm, when used in place of real actual science.

Wow! Now we're rewriting the Bill of Rights? First off, there's an old saying about assuming things, I'm sure you know the one I mean. Secondly, "you don't have the right not to be offended"? Exactly what does that mean, that you would force me to take offense at something that doesn't bother me? Does that really make sense to you?
Prayer never hurt anyone, it's fanaticism that causes all the problems. If your belief in something, whether it's for God or against God, is so blind that you have to attack someone, verbally or otherwise, then in my opinion you're a fanatic and cannot be reasoned with. After reading some of your previous posts, Flackle, I have concluded that having a conversation with you on this subject is useless, so I hope you have a nice life and I wish you all the best.   :peace:  :heart:  :icon_rr:


This statement makes absolutely not sense, and in no way can you logically entail this statement from anything I have said. No one can force you to take offense from something, and even if you don't take personal offense from someone doesn't believe in god, you was the one that stated "In America, we have the right to believe what we want too without being put down" which assumes that you have the right to censor others who doesn't believe the same you do, because that's the only way to guarantee you wont be "put down" for your beliefs.

The meaning of the statement "You don't have the right not to be offended" in a nutshell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bwGsOBTlhE

I apologize if my dissenting view makes me a fanatic. Maybe I'll just go sit in a corner and forget about expressing my views on any subject because apparently having an opinion is only okay when you're a centered boring individual who doesn't particularly believe in anything.
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Post by: nhendrickson on May 04, 2013, 02:38:13 pm
I have to agree with Flackle on this one.  In America, we have a right to believe, or not, what we want and to worship, or not, as we choose.  But, with a very few exceptions, there's a right to free speech that lets people freely express views that may be unpopular and may offend someone somewhere.  Not offending people is NOT an exception to the right to free speech.  After, you can choose to ignore someone, respond to them, or engage in name calling out of frustration.  That's your right  :D 
 
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Post by: sammywantsya on May 08, 2013, 07:09:43 pm
should we remind you of what happened with falcon9 lol xD maan these so called bashers and haters are everywhere no wonder kids here dont wanna talk... DAAAMN


sad to keep this burden..  ohhh well its there own fault not ours... haters to the fullest..  also arent we getting out of hand with randomn shyt talking about putting someone down...  you guys are forgetting the ops topic... this clearly says that :) thats why the ego is there so they think we dont know nothing about this shyt.

all honesty fackle who gives a daamn... theres a differnce by giving ur opinion and then putting them down.. i labeled you as a hater and a basher for one reason only you like to stir up nonsense.. if you like to argue and argue to see ur right thats fine but if this person dont wanna argue back who gives u the right to act like u own this topic??? tell me that fackle... your worse then falcon9 man... at least he knows when to shut up. and please dont get all innocent act all on me pal.. you started this i didnt... i didnt mentioned you in this topic so go off your high horse..
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Post by: Flackle on May 08, 2013, 08:27:33 pm
should we remind you of what happened with falcon9 lol xD maan these so called bashers and haters are everywhere no wonder kids here dont wanna talk... DAAAMN


sad to keep this burden..  ohhh well its there own fault not ours... haters to the fullest..  also arent we getting out of hand with randomn shyt talking about putting someone down...  you guys are forgetting the ops topic... this clearly says that :) thats why the ego is there so they think we dont know nothing about this shyt.

all honesty fackle who gives a daamn... theres a differnce by giving ur opinion and then putting them down.. i labeled you as a hater and a basher for one reason only you like to stir up nonsense.. if you like to argue and argue to see ur right thats fine but if this person dont wanna argue back who gives u the right to act like u own this topic??? tell me that fackle... your worse then falcon9 man... at least he knows when to shut up. and please dont get all innocent act all on me pal.. you started this i didnt... i didnt mentioned you in this topic so go off your high horse..

I never force anyone to respond to what I say. It would be physically impossible for me to do that on this forum. Just as everyone has the right to speak their mind, I have the full right to criticize. Sorry. That's the price you pay for freedom. When someone makes a topic, they need to realize they have no control over those who posts. To assume otherwise would mean threads would have absolutely no dissenting viewpoints, and as a result no true discussion. You want to live in a world where we cannot debate ideas? How can we grow without ever being criticized? I don't debate to convince others of my view points (even if it may be a side-effect). I debate to learn. If you don't want to debate, then don't respond to my posts. It's that simple.

This is the debate and discuss forum, isn't it? If so then I respectfully request a post of actual substance.

Why am I not allowed to criticize others on this forum open to debate and discussion?
Why is there suddenly some unwritten rule that says we cannot deviate from the original intent of the forum, even slightly?
Why is it that I am called a hater, yet I don't blatantly use Ad hominems, and use words like "shyt" nor namedrop other forum members.
Why is that I am a hater, when there have been plenty of religious persons debating a frivolously and often times crossing lines much further then I ever have and yet they're just fine?
Why is it that you're defending against my supposed "attacks" when I don't used charged words like "basher", "hater", and "shut up"?
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Post by: sammywantsya on May 08, 2013, 11:34:50 pm
enough said kiddo you started to fight when i have no reason to argue with you... you always have to pick on me for some FN reason maan... so stop with all the bullshyt...

stop playing around... like i said who gives a daamn about you the way you act the way you tolerate with others here are def ridiculous..  id rather have falcon9 back then you... end of story..

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Post by: queensurvey on May 12, 2013, 07:04:02 pm
Yes! I believe in miracles!