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I think it will help weed out the ones who are abusing the system but I feel terrible for the ones that truly need it. I know a lady who is old retired and is disabled. she says that she only got 30 dollars this month. with her being on a really strict budget she has only eaten one meal a day for quite a while well plus a small snack she says she just will eat one meal a day and just half of that and save the other half for tomorrow. she doesn't have any family to help her out.
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Like most things, it's the ones that abuse the system that makes it harder on those who really need it. I personally know people who are able to work but have it too good by getting government handouts to go to work. It's not "profitable" to them.
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I feel the same as you, I feel bad for those that need it. I heard there was another cut coming.
I think it will help weed out the ones who are abusing the system but I feel terrible for the ones that truly need it. I know a lady who is old retired and is disabled. she says that she only got 30 dollars this month. with her being on a really strict budget she has only eaten one meal a day for quite a while well plus a small snack she says she just will eat one meal a day and just half of that and save the other half for tomorrow. she doesn't have any family to help her out.
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I also hate for the ones that truly need it like my daughter and io know several who doesn't need it
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I have to agree with everyone. There are the many who abuse the system and hurt it for the ones who really need it. My heart goes out to the elderly who only live on social security. After they pay their Medicare and supplemental insurance, most times there isn't a lot left. Most elderly need meds, and the cost of prescriptions can be high. I know a lot of seniors who only take half their meds and eat once a day because they can't afford more. With bills like food and heating there's not a lot left. The only thing these people did wrong was get old. I can't believe this country with all it's money can't help seniors out better.
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Food Stamps for those in need,,, ( really needy) is great. But then you get those people who abuse the system and makes its bad for the other families. We were at the store awhile back and standing in line to check out . Couple with 4 kids in front of us with 2-carts of food,,, or should i say "Junk Food". I never seen any meat or vegetables or milk. All we seen was chips, cookies, candy, soda, all junk in them carts.
Then we noticed that : the Dad had an IPhone,,,,, The Mom had an I Phone,,,,,, and the 2-oldest Kids had IPhones !!!!!!!!!!!!
Please tell me what was wrong with that Picture ????? Am I wrong to think something was wrong with that Picture ????
I can't afford an IPhone,,,,,,, and I qualify to get food stamps if I would do it. ( I lost my job because they closed the store I worked at ) I'm on unemployment right
now. It really erks me to see people like this abusing the food stamp program :(
OK I have griped enough LOL
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The systems messed up an it should get fixed they should just go out an see whose abusing it, yea I know it's goin take forever but people really need it an they cutting the wrong people short
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well I have a child and my went down to 31 not good :-\ :-\ :BangHead: :BangHead:
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I think it sucks! :BangHead:
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I don't know much about it but I think in general a lot of people live beyond their means. You have to really look at what's a want and what's a need and plan your expenses accordingly. I agree the ones who abuse the system must be punished hopefully not at the expense of those who really need the assistance. I hope those who really need the assistance can find a way to make it work and not suffer too much.
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I think it will help weed out the ones who are abusing the system but I feel terrible for the ones that truly need it. I know a lady who is old retired and is disabled. she says that she only got 30 dollars this month. with her being on a really strict budget she has only eaten one meal a day for quite a while well plus a small snack she says she just will eat one meal a day and just half of that and save the other half for tomorrow. she doesn't have any family to help her out.
I'm sure the Tea Party types who were gung-ho for this reduction never missed a meal in their lives.
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don't know where you live but maybe she could go to a food bank or meals on wheels.Churches might come through more with donations. I can't believe the price of food lately some things you need like a gallon of milk is 4.00 or more in some stores.My son works at mcdonalds and a gal who works there with 3kids gets food stamps she doesn't make enough don't know about the father of the kids.
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You know the history of the foodstamp programs have been filled with graft and corruption from the first days and I honestly feel that the program should be taken away from the government and turned over to the local churchs and food banks. There is just something wrong when an able bodied male is selling a state food stamp card on craigs list.
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The food stamp program is so filled with abuse and corruption that it can well do with some reduction in funding. MAYBE they will start actually monitoring the abuses to eliminate the bad guys and properly support those that are truly deserving of the help. I know locally that there is no excuse for anyone going hungry regardless of the state of the food stamp program. There are food banks and other non-government resources for those that need it.
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Yes but in the meantime a family of 4 takes a one hundred dollar cut here. Get them jobs please. :sad1:
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Something worth a read on the topic.
Crisis Accelerates: Food Banks Running Out of Food
Food pantry organizers “unable to plug the hole”
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
November 4, 2013
The head of the Pennsylvania’s largest food bank has warned that demand for groceries following a $5 billion dollar cut in the food stamp program cannot be met.
Joe Arthur of the Central Pennsylvania Food Bank “says the donor network for the food banks is already stretched too thin to quickly expand,” according to an Associated Press report.
From November 1st, $5 billion was wiped off the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) as a result of a planned stimulus withdrawal. Almost 50 million Americans who are supported by the program face an average loss of $36 dollars a month, which is a significant amount for those living near the poverty line.
Food pantry organizers will be “unable to plug the hole being left by a reduction in federal funding for food stamps,” which will leave families of four in Pennsylvania facing the prospect of 20 fewer meals per month, according to Arthur.
The Association of Arizona Food Banks sounds a similar warning, noting that the 5 per cent cut, although appearing minor on the surface, equates to about half a week’s budget for someone whose primary source of food is SNAP.
Spokesman Brian Simpson illustrated how the massive surge in demand for food was linked to the struggling economy.
Before the 2007 recession, the five food banks in his association were handing out an average of 69,000 emergency food boxes per month. Last month, 108,300 boxes were handed out, an increase of around 80 per cent.
The true impact of the cut will really be felt in the final week of November, when food stamp recipients will begin to run out of benefits.
According to Margaret Purvis, the CEO of the largest food bank in America, members of her Food Bank for New York City organization, are“panicking” over the decrease in benefits, fearing a rush of hungry Americans.
“We’re telling everyone to make sure that you are prepared for longer lines,” Purvis told NBC News.
Her comments were echoed by Jim Weill, president of the Food Research and Action Center, who stated, “It’s going to send people into a charitable system that’s already overwhelmed and screaming for help itself.”
Purvis also invoked the threat of riots caused by millions of Americans going hungry when she told Salon.com, “If you look across the world, riots always begin typically the same way: when people cannot afford to eat food.”
This has prompted some to speculate that the Department of Homeland Security is gearing up for potential unrest with its recent hiring of security guards to protect government buildings in New York, as well as the purchase of half a million dollars worth of fully automatic pepper spray launchers and projectiles that are designed to be used during riot control situations.
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I eat oatmeal only for dinner. Cup of Noodles for breakfast. Fruit pears in light syrup for breakfast. Sometimes meat if I find it 50% off. I do check expiration dates. I could use the full amount I used to get! Thought Obamacare was messed up only. Didn't think the US gov't could mess up more! :thumbsup: :peace: :dontknow:
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I agree with most people. There are a lot of people that abuse it. I have a friend though that has been out of work for a long time, and was laid off from her last job. She has been looking for months for different types of work and she gets food stamps but they lowered the amount. I tried to get it only for a couple of months, just to help me out until I find a job, or at least get on my feet and I didn't qualify. So I buy my own food, that's fine...I'm not mad but then I hear about people who don't work and abuse the system. :BangHead:
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I think it is really messed up for the people who really need it, I was getting $35 a month and it went down to $20 what are they thinking I really couldn't get much with $35 now it's $20 but I do have a family member that helps me Thank Goodness
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I think that there were a lot of people abusing the program(s) and they ruined it for the people that truly needed it. A few years ago I was alking into a grocery store and a gentleman asked me if I wanted to buy his food stamps for half price. Did a great job of selling me on the benefits of being able to buy twice as much merchandise. I was intrigued and he said that he had bought extra from people within the neighbor hood at an even lower price so he was able to make a bigger profit. This person indicated that he could use the cash for cigarettes and alcohol-something the food stamps weren't able to be used for. He also cursed the system for this reason! Pretty sad. I have also heard about people, in 15 states, complaining about having to take drug tests prior to getting public assistance. What?!? I have to take a drug test to get a job so that I can pay my way and there are people that be little the system because they have to take a drug test to get free aid? Seems a little off balance to me.
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it was a small decrease in funds....budget, budget, budget.
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I wish only the one who needs it will get it the rest should work and just don't take advantage of it.
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As a disabled person who uses foodstamps in order to eat because I dont make enough to afford food I am not thrilled. I am have worked my *bleep* all my life.But that doesnt mean people want to hire me and so there are times were it gets a little tough. especially now that I am trying to go back to school to make things better
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@premar16, @Beckys0528 and everyone else in this thread who have experienced benefit cuts, I am so sorry for what you're going through. I have no idea how you keep your spirits up in the face of all the hardships you had to go through to need benefits, plus all the enduring hardships. You're all in my thoughts.
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It would be better to have people work for their food stamps.
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It''s not actually a cut in the food stamps, it is that a program passed in 2009 has reached it's end. It does stink that many who need it have seen their benefits drop and some stop, but maybe those who utilize it will shop a little smarter with coupons and deals.Last week I was able to score 12 boxes of cereal and 2 gallons of mile for a total of $8.50. It just takes a little bit of time, but you can make a dollar stretch.
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I agree; the elderly should be better taken care of and so should veterans. They put their lives on the line for our country and I strongly feel they should be taken care of when they make it home, many have a HARD time just getting their benefits, but that's another topic.
I have to agree with everyone. There are the many who abuse the system and hurt it for the ones who really need it. My heart goes out to the elderly who only live on social security. After they pay their Medicare and supplemental insurance, most times there isn't a lot left. Most elderly need meds, and the cost of prescriptions can be high. I know a lot of seniors who only take half their meds and eat once a day because they can't afford more. With bills like food and heating there's not a lot left. The only thing these people did wrong was get old. I can't believe this country with all it's money can't help seniors out better.
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I strongly agree! Many are living way beyond their means or aren't willing to sacrifice now to have more in the future.
I don't know much about it but I think in general a lot of people live beyond their means. You have to really look at what's a want and what's a need and plan your expenses accordingly. I agree the ones who abuse the system must be punished hopefully not at the expense of those who really need the assistance. I hope those who really need the assistance can find a way to make it work and not suffer too much.
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When I heard that people might have to start taking drug tests to get stamps I was like ok....what's the problem with that? Also, some states have reportedly started making it so that people can't buy sweets and soda with food stamps, and although I understand how they feel like their rights might be being toyed with they are really doing them a favor if they enforce this.
I think that there were a lot of people abusing the program(s) and they ruined it for the people that truly needed it. A few years ago I was alking into a grocery store and a gentleman asked me if I wanted to buy his food stamps for half price. Did a great job of selling me on the benefits of being able to buy twice as much merchandise. I was intrigued and he said that he had bought extra from people within the neighbor hood at an even lower price so he was able to make a bigger profit. This person indicated that he could use the cash for cigarettes and alcohol-something the food stamps weren't able to be used for. He also cursed the system for this reason! Pretty sad. I have also heard about people, in 15 states, complaining about having to take drug tests prior to getting public assistance. What?!? I have to take a drug test to get a job so that I can pay my way and there are people that be little the system because they have to take a drug test to get free aid? Seems a little off balance to me.
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I definitely understand! But things will get better :)
As a disabled person who uses foodstamps in order to eat because I dont make enough to afford food I am not thrilled. I am have worked my *bleep* all my life.But that doesnt mean people want to hire me and so there are times were it gets a little tough. especially now that I am trying to go back to school to make things better
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its bad for ppl who really need it. the government always makes these changes and were the last one to know. :BangHead:
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I agree with most people I feel bad to those who need it but am happy to weed out the ones who take advantage of it !! I mean we are in a huge budget crisis we cant pay for those who dont need it or are abusing it !!! Yet we should help those who need it !!!
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that is sooooo sad :'( I belive in weed them out to iam on food stamps I was getting 50 nomoney iam on my own w 30 I cant worl I have a little girl on ssi she 599 and her father does not help much whith money :-\ it hard when they put the food stamps down :'( :'(
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While I agree there are too many people abusing the system, I don't think this will change anything. Unfortunately, when LAZY people get things for free - THEY TEND TO FORGET WHAT HARD WORK IS AND HOW MUCH MORE THEY COULD HAVE!!!!!!
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The 1st thing we need to do is send all the illegal back to there on country. They do not pay taxes like the rest of us.
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I know it is hard to make a go of it on our ss, but am not on food stamps. Hubby works prt-time to supplement us. We also make sure my father who gets very little ss since he was self-employed most of his time as a farmer never stints on his meds and food. so it is hard. We also have a small house that we are fixing up. Drive and older car, We don't need a lot of material things. I will not go into debt just to have a new car, newer house. So the way i look at it, we worked hoard for our social security and deserve it. But there are so many abusers out there that need to be cut off. They are able to work and should have to live on the same amount as a working person drawing min. wage. And i do not think they should be getting all the junk food when they could eat better and cheaper.
Budget, budget and get rid of their i phones. and computers fbecause it cost for internet.
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Food Stamps for those in need,,, ( really needy) is great. But then you get those people who abuse the system and makes its bad for the other families. We were at the store awhile back and standing in line to check out . Couple with 4 kids in front of us with 2-carts of food,,, or should i say "Junk Food". I never seen any meat or vegetables or milk. All we seen was chips, cookies, candy, soda, all junk in them carts.
Then we noticed that : the Dad had an IPhone,,,,, The Mom had an I Phone,,,,,, and the 2-oldest Kids had IPhones !!!!!!!!!!!!
Please tell me what was wrong with that Picture ????? Am I wrong to think something was wrong with that Picture ????
I can't afford an IPhone,,,,,,, and I qualify to get food stamps if I would do it. ( I lost my job because they closed the store I worked at ) I'm on unemployment right
now. It really erks me to see people like this abusing the food stamp program :(
OK I have griped enough LOL
I've seen similar situations. They need to revise the rules, so that junk food of any kind can't be purchased with food stamps. And they can go through the records and cut back everyone that has been buying junk food instead of real, healthy food. That would cut their budget down by a lot, and hopefully discourage some of the abusers.
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While people have abused the system and it is hard to know who needs them, I think this is rotten to the core. The government can afford to feed their children, but people who cannot afford it needs more sympathy. I know this: before President Obama came along, the most one person could get was $149 and it was raised to $200. It is not right. The fact is that the government doesn't care. My heart goes out to the lady who only gets $30 and is eating one meal a day and a snack. She is the epitome of why this program is necessary. :o :o :o :wave:
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I think we should turn off the utilities to the white house.
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It's sad for those who need it but what about programs that give food away? Can't she get some cans from that?
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It is too bad that a big majority on the food stamps really need them and so what do they do the last week of the month? Just not eat? It is the children and the elderly who get the shaft when they decide to lower it. I think they need to prove every 3 months that they still need it. They are also very strict in my state on what you can and cannot get with food stamps. You cannot pay for junk food, sodas, most pre-made foods, no candy etc. In our area one of the things that is making it hard it so many companies now are having you work part time, so you get no benefits and low wages. I think we should drop the percentage of money we are sending to other countries. I think we should allow line item veto so that so much waste does not get through just to make a Senator look like he is helping his state. All while he is saying the budget needs lowered.
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It is unfair to the ones who need them. But I sympathize with the people who need them. If it isn't one thing, it's another. :bad: :bad: :bad:
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I'm all for helping anyone in need. There are many out there that are trying their best and really need help. But like everything else there are many who take advantage of the system and take when they are not really in need and could get a job if they really wanted to work. So I feel bad for those who really need it.
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It's just going back to where it was before it was raised. If they would clamp down on the cheaters there would be enough for the ones that really need it.
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The food stamp program certainly does fulfill a purpose for most. I've been there. It makes me disheartened when I see people utilizing there food stamps to get other benefits...the example of the guy with an iPhone is a prime example. What about driving in neighborhoods with government subsidizing and there are direct tv and dish network satellites on the roofs. I'm not going to whine but come on - we have free tv through an antenna. I do our families laundry by hand rather go to a laundromat - gave up my vehicle for goodness sakes to save money. I think we live in a selfish world and those than abuse the system seem to have made a career out of it.
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Wow, so many thoughts...
Yes, the 2009 incentive expired and that cut all our SNAP benefits.
I don't know about other states, but NM is reorganizing things and going paperless. Will that mean more cuts? Not sure. We'll be able to apply online - that's good.
I'm on SNAP, it's my only source of groceries. I do use coupons, but I'm trying to eat healthy and natural so it's of limited help since most coupons are for unhealthy processed, name-brand foods.
I would gladly take a drug test to qualify, but I don't have a car. It would also cost them a lot to run such a program and they're already stretched. My local office has become a "satellite" office.
The system is broken. They only consider rent and utilities vs. income. They don't consider car expenses. I live in a small town in a rural county with no mass transit. I did caregiver and distribution work, which necessitated having my own car, but they did't look at that. My car died, that cost me my job. Now I don't have a car or a job.
There is no help to get basic human necessities such as toiletries or essential household paper goods like toilet paper, but as one post pointed out, we can spend our whole allotment on junk food. Yet we can't buy hot deli food, only cold day-old deli food. I guess they think that poor, struggling people don't need a quick, easy, hot meal after a long day of job hunting or jumping through hoops to make ends meet.
They used to require a job search, but they don't consider self-employment. I understand some states are actually helpful to people working to be self-employed, but not NM. I have arthritis, mental health issues and no car so my best bet is using my creative skills and my computer to create my own income, but they don't consider that. They seem to think one size fits all.
Today a computer and internet access is essential. Our phone company has a low-income program for DSL, but only for new users. I found this out by accident. Human Services did not inform me of this or I would have done it. Setting up an online business and freelancing online requires a good, DSL connection, but they don't consider the expense or even inform us of the available assistance. Even job hunting today requires online applications and networking.
I don't know how to fix this, but it's not working right as it is. :angry7: :dontknow:
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I feel the same way. It a lot of people who suffer on this budget cut, I don't know that I agree with this reduction as well. Because there are those who really need it to survive. Hope those who really don't truly need it realize it.
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I think it will help weed out the ones who are abusing the system but I feel terrible for the ones that truly need it. I know a lady who is old retired and is disabled. she says that she only got 30 dollars this month. with her being on a really strict budget she has only eaten one meal a day for quite a while well plus a small snack she says she just will eat one meal a day and just half of that and save the other half for tomorrow. she doesn't have any family to help her out.
well i cannot say that my foodstamps went up im glade just enough so far .
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Its interesting that the government felt comfortable going after food stamps. Welfare has been reformed enough. Helping people eat is basic humanity. AFDC was a nightmare and easily abused because of psych patients who were not being adequately cared for. I don't think anyone really limits themselves to the system. To deal with all the bureaucracy associated with public assistance usually indicates there is some extreme need. The freedom associated with not dealing with the system unless you work in it (like I have) is a luxury no one would really give up without reluctance. I mean get real. Knowing enough as a novice about taxes as an annual trip I hate to go on, but would rather not be in trouble over. That is as close to submitting to the system as I need to be, ever, believe that.
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Wow, so many thoughts...
Yes, the 2009 incentive expired and that cut all our SNAP benefits.
I don't know about other states, but NM is reorganizing things and going paperless. Will that mean more cuts? Not sure. We'll be able to apply online - that's good.
I'm on SNAP, it's my only source of groceries. I do use coupons, but I'm trying to eat healthy and natural so it's of limited help since most coupons are for unhealthy processed, name-brand foods.
I would gladly take a drug test to qualify, but I don't have a car. It would also cost them a lot to run such a program and they're already stretched. My local office has become a "satellite" office.
The system is broken. They only consider rent and utilities vs. income. They don't consider car expenses. I live in a small town in a rural county with no mass transit. I did caregiver and distribution work, which necessitated having my own car, but they did't look at that. My car died, that cost me my job. Now I don't have a car or a job.
There is no help to get basic human necessities such as toiletries or essential household paper goods like toilet paper, but as one post pointed out, we can spend our whole allotment on junk food. Yet we can't buy hot deli food, only cold day-old deli food. I guess they think that poor, struggling people don't need a quick, easy, hot meal after a long day of job hunting or jumping through hoops to make ends meet.
They used to require a job search, but they don't consider self-employment. I understand some states are actually helpful to people working to be self-employed, but not NM. I have arthritis, mental health issues and no car so my best bet is using my creative skills and my computer to create my own income, but they don't consider that. They seem to think one size fits all.
Today a computer and internet access is essential. Our phone company has a low-income program for DSL, but only for new users. I found this out by accident. Human Services did not inform me of this or I would have done it. Setting up an online business and freelancing online requires a good, DSL connection, but they don't consider the expense or even inform us of the available assistance. Even job hunting today requires online applications and networking.
I don't know how to fix this, but it's not working right as it is. :angry7: :dontknow:
I hope you someday return to this thread. I recently came across a service called FreedomPop. Although I've not utilized it - it may be something worth looking into for you. Phone service is offered through safelink - it's a simple feature phone. When in an emergency it's better than nothing though.
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and the cuts just keep coming social security, insurance, taxes, etc I guess the ones in charge have lost their minds . how in the f&%$ do they think we have enough money to do all this they are taking it all away. I have worked hard all my life ten years or so from retirement they took away most of my accrued pernsion and put it in the stock market and we all know how well that's been going!
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The system is very hard to qualify for because I went with my mother who lives on SS and is 80 years old to try and get some help, well she got $16.00 a month food stamps. But all these illegal's get 300 or 400 hundred a month plus free healthcare and they all drive new cars and have Iphones. Makes me sick
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I don't know much about the reduction or really even the program itself -- but I do know a few people who have been on or are even still on it.
The problem is really false people being on it who do not at all new the program, so I do feel bad for the people who really need it and think the reducion is thus a bad idea. Further, with all the wasteful government spending is this really where they need to target for spending cuts.
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Hopefully it does catch the ones that are abusing it but that is really bad for the ones that really need it. It isn't really that much to begin with but every little bit helps. So sorry for the legit members..
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The entire system needs to be overhauled!
Too bad for those people who really need it. I think there are far more people who are abusing it than really need it. There are all kind of ways to earn money. I see mentally disabled adults working in retail and other establishments. It leads me to believe that there are people who just want to be lazy and use the system. ::)
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People can always get food from their local church or food bank.
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I have worked hard all my life ten years or so from retirement they took away most of my accrued pernsion and put it in the stock market and we all know how well that's been going!
The stock market is doing great.
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People should educate themselves a little more before they go blaming everything on the government. The government did not "cut" food stamp benefits. The president Obama that you all hate so much put a bill in place in 2009 that RAISED everyone's benefits. That bill has come to an end and food stamps are going back to NORMAL. Rather than appreciate that there was more to go around for 4 years and be thankful for it, people are complaining and blaming the government? Makes no sense.
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we get Food stamps. We all want to receive but don't want to give any our time back to balance out our community. example: how many volunteer to your nursing home,Hospital to cut the cost. Yes we . do need to educate our self more and be thankful. I am not sure I am making sense. here
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the problem really isn't that snap is back to normal its that food prices are much higher than they were back then
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I have worked hard all my life ten years or so from retirement they took away most of my accrued pernsion and put it in the stock market and we all know how well that's been going!
The stock market is doing great.
I had more in my pension than I have in stock but stock goes up and down not the most perfect system if you are doing that good with the stock markets perhaps you could help me out because I don't have any real idea on how it works
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You are so right the price of food is way up. a 1lb of bacon $4.00 up eggs almost $2.00 a dozen depend on the size. I pray we all be taking care of.
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People keep mentioning that people should work for thier food stamps I don't think they realize that a lot of these people do actually have jobs but with the cost of food the decrease in pay and housing going to crap its getting harder and harder to feed our families.Yes churches can help but they can only help so much
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People keep mentioning that people should work for thier food stamps I don't think they realize that a lot of these people do actually have jobs but with the cost of food the decrease in pay and housing going to crap its getting harder and harder to feed our families.Yes churches can help but they can only help so much
And if the churches had been doing such a great job, food stamps would not have been needed.
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This is what I know ...Everyone I know is working their a**es off welfare or not we are all struggling to make ends meet
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I think it will help weed out the ones who are abusing the system but I feel terrible for the ones that truly need it. I know a lady who is old retired and is disabled. she says that she only got 30 dollars this month. with her being on a really strict budget she has only eaten one meal a day for quite a while well plus a small snack she says she just will eat one meal a day and just half of that and save the other half for tomorrow. she doesn't have any family to help her out.
How will it help weed out the ones abusing the system. They cut everyone drawing by a certain amount. A family of ONE was cut only $11 and a family of 4 was cut around $36. I am not calling you a liar but I kind of doubt what she is saying. I guess I have just seen too many liars lately. I don't believe anybody and their sob stories. I am having a really hard time but yet I manage. Ramen Noodle soup is only 12 cents a package. You can eat that every day for one meal if you have to. Eat peanut butter or cheese sandwiches. People can eat for a lot less. May not be what they want to eat but it is something to eat.
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I don't know much about it but I think in general a lot of people live beyond their means. You have to really look at what's a want and what's a need and plan your expenses accordingly. I agree the ones who abuse the system must be punished hopefully not at the expense of those who really need the assistance. I hope those who really need the assistance can find a way to make it work and not suffer too much.
This wasn't done as a punishment. I don't remember what it was called but there was a bill or something giving extra to the food stamp program voted in a while back that expired. So it went back down to what it was before.
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I wish only the one who needs it will get it the rest should work and just don't take advantage of it.
I wish people would work too. But I am thinking some of the ones you and others think deserve it I would think didn't. I know people who have been out of work for a long time because they can't find the job they want or they are as a exfriend said to me "being picky" about what job they take. I wasn't able to do that. I had to take whatever I could get. If there are fast food jobs available and you are drawing unemployment and food stamps then you should be forced to take the job that is there. Work there til you can find something better instead of being a leach. Yes, it makes me a little angry. lol
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It is too bad that a big majority on the food stamps really need them and so what do they do the last week of the month? Just not eat? It is the children and the elderly who get the shaft when they decide to lower it. I think they need to prove every 3 months that they still need it. They are also very strict in my state on what you can and cannot get with food stamps. You cannot pay for junk food, sodas, most pre-made foods, no candy etc. In our area one of the things that is making it hard it so many companies now are having you work part time, so you get no benefits and low wages. I think we should drop the percentage of money we are sending to other countries. I think we should allow line item veto so that so much waste does not get through just to make a Senator look like he is helping his state. All while he is saying the budget needs lowered.
They didn't just decide to lower it. It was only raised for a certain amount of time and Bush done it not obamer. And you are re-evaluated every 6 months. They wouldn't have time to do everyone every 3 months. I have never heard of EBT cards not paying for junk food. In my area expensive steaks and junk food are the norm. I don't have a problem with say one box of cookies. Idk.
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Food Stamps for those in need,,, ( really needy) is great. But then you get those people who abuse the system and makes its bad for the other families. We were at the store awhile back and standing in line to check out . Couple with 4 kids in front of us with 2-carts of food,,, or should i say "Junk Food". I never seen any meat or vegetables or milk. All we seen was chips, cookies, candy, soda, all junk in them carts.
Then we noticed that : the Dad had an IPhone,,,,, The Mom had an I Phone,,,,,, and the 2-oldest Kids had IPhones !!!!!!!!!!!!
Please tell me what was wrong with that Picture ????? Am I wrong to think something was wrong with that Picture ????
I can't afford an IPhone,,,,,,, and I qualify to get food stamps if I would do it. ( I lost my job because they closed the store I worked at ) I'm on unemployment right
now. It really erks me to see people like this abusing the food stamp program :(
OK I have griped enough LOL
I've seen similar situations. They need to revise the rules, so that junk food of any kind can't be purchased with food stamps. And they can go through the records and cut back everyone that has been buying junk food instead of real, healthy food. That would cut their budget down by a lot, and hopefully discourage some of the abusers.
What is your idea of REAL healthy food? A lot of people want to ban the frozen meals also. If you can get a frozen meal for $1 and you get $30 then that is 30 meals. As opposed to only a couple if you can only buy fresh fruits and veggies.
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People can always get food from their local church or food bank.
This is not so. The church I use to attend and pretty much all the churches in my area do no hand out food to people. Although there is a food bank in the area it is usually nasty expired food that nobody will eat and thus the reason it is at the food pantry.
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People keep mentioning that people should work for thier food stamps I don't think they realize that a lot of these people do actually have jobs but with the cost of food the decrease in pay and housing going to crap its getting harder and harder to feed our families.Yes churches can help but they can only help so much
This is true. A lot of my co workers making min wage getting 25 hours a week get a little help with food stamps.
And if the churches had been doing such a great job, food stamps would not have been needed.
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It's not the place of the churches to provide food for every dead beat who will not work. I know way too many people who have went into a church and told a lie to get money that was used for drugs not food. Thus the reason churches quit helping when people randomly asked. I am not defending the churches or attacking them. It just irritates me when people (most of which don't even believe in God) want to blame the churches for people being hungry and homeless and not putting the blame on the person who will not work. I seen 4 different people outside my workplace Saturday holding various signs about hungry, will work for food, need money anything helps. Yet NONE of the dead beats holding a sign will go into where I work and fill out an application. And yes we are hiring.
This is what I know ...Everyone I know is working their a**es off welfare or not we are all struggling to make ends meet
I know a few people who are working and they struggle. I see more people who are lazy and cry and complain because they are struggling but yet they don't work and get money deposited into a checking account every month. They have fancy phones, satellite tv, go to the movies all the time and even though they cry about struggling manage to have steak every night for supper. To me that ain't struggling. Some of the people who THINK they are having a tough time need to really struggle so they can know what it feels like.
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People keep mentioning that people should work for thier food stamps I don't think they realize that a lot of these people do actually have jobs but with the cost of food the decrease in pay and housing going to crap its getting harder and harder to feed our families.Yes churches can help but they can only help so much
I feel sorry for the people that actually need SNAP. The economy is getting really hard on everyone. People who may make 1 dollar too much can't qualify for help are probably hit the hardest. I know alot of people who need help and can't get it just for that reason; as it was posted it is hard on everyone. I really do believe that there should be a better way to monitor Snap though. There are people I know that abuse the system and then there are those that really need the help can't get it. Sometimes,I think we are all on a slow sinking ship and I pray that there will be enough life rafts to go around. :heart:
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I think it will help weed out the ones who are abusing the system but I feel terrible for the ones that truly need it. I know a lady who is old retired and is disabled. she says that she only got 30 dollars this month. with her being on a really strict budget she has only eaten one meal a day for quite a while well plus a small snack she says she just will eat one meal a day and just half of that and save the other half for tomorrow. she doesn't have any family to help her out.
How will it help weed out the ones abusing the system. They cut everyone drawing by a certain amount. A family of ONE was cut only $11 and a family of 4 was cut around $36. I am not calling you a liar but I kind of doubt what she is saying. I guess I have just seen too many liars lately. I don't believe anybody and their sob stories. I am having a really hard time but yet I manage. Ramen Noodle soup is only 12 cents a package. You can eat that every day for one meal if you have to. Eat peanut butter or cheese sandwiches. People can eat for a lot less. May not be what they want to eat but it is something to eat.
The person that I was referring to is also on a special diet everything is not always cut an dried there are other facts that I did not give but I guess I wrongly assumed that by giving a description of old retired and disabled that most people would be able to put 2+2 together. There is no way that this person would be able to hold a job she doesn't own a computer and at this point in her life she never will and has never owned one.
I don't know about other food banks and churches but my local ones are very low on food and are begging for donations.
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People keep mentioning that people should work for thier food stamps I don't think they realize that a lot of these people do actually have jobs but with the cost of food the decrease in pay and housing going to crap its getting harder and harder to feed our families.Yes churches can help but they can only help so much
I feel sorry for the people that actually need SNAP. The economy is getting really hard on everyone. People who may make 1 dollar too much can't qualify for help are probably hit the hardest. I know alot of people who need help and can't get it just for that reason; as it was posted it is hard on everyone. I really do believe that there should be a better way to monitor Snap though. There are people I know that abuse the system and then there are those that really need the help can't get it. Sometimes,I think we are all on a slow sinking ship and I pray that there will be enough life rafts to go around. :heart:
I hear this a lot. But there has to be a cut off. If you give it to the one who make $1 too much then the person who makes $2 too much will say well then I should get it. I only make $2 too much. If you don't meet the requirements then you don't meet them.
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I think it will help weed out the ones who are abusing the system but I feel terrible for the ones that truly need it. I know a lady who is old retired and is disabled. she says that she only got 30 dollars this month. with her being on a really strict budget she has only eaten one meal a day for quite a while well plus a small snack she says she just will eat one meal a day and just half of that and save the other half for tomorrow. she doesn't have any family to help her out.
How will it help weed out the ones abusing the system. They cut everyone drawing by a certain amount. A family of ONE was cut only $11 and a family of 4 was cut around $36. I am not calling you a liar but I kind of doubt what she is saying. I guess I have just seen too many liars lately. I don't believe anybody and their sob stories. I am having a really hard time but yet I manage. Ramen Noodle soup is only 12 cents a package. You can eat that every day for one meal if you have to. Eat peanut butter or cheese sandwiches. People can eat for a lot less. May not be what they want to eat but it is something to eat.
The person that I was referring to is also on a special diet everything is not always cut an dried there are other facts that I did not give but I guess I wrongly assumed that by giving a description of old retired and disabled that most people would be able to put 2+2 together. There is no way that this person would be able to hold a job she doesn't own a computer and at this point in her life she never will and has never owned one.
I don't know about other food banks and churches but my local ones are very low on food and are begging for donations.
I guess it boils down to we are all having a hard time. Most people who are working are struggling to feed themselves and can't afford to buy food to donate to a food bank that is given to people who are just lazy.
The ones who truly need help usually fall thru the cracks because they will not ask for help. And from what you said there is no way to put two and two together. I guess I have just heard so many lies and seen so much deception I don't believe people any longer. The majority of people you talk to these days will say they are disabled. If you can do whatever you want to (other than work which they don't want to do) then they aren't disabled. Same with eating. If you suggest ramen noodles and peanut butter or cheese most will say 'oh I have a special diet' so they can have a reason to say they can't eat the cheap stuff. I realize some people do have special diets but most do not. I don't want to eat peanut butter and soup beans every meal but if it keeps me from starving then that is what I will eat.
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I think it will help weed out the ones who are abusing the system but I feel terrible for the ones that truly need it. I know a lady who is old retired and is disabled. she says that she only got 30 dollars this month. with her being on a really strict budget she has only eaten one meal a day for quite a while well plus a small snack she says she just will eat one meal a day and just half of that and save the other half for tomorrow. she doesn't have any family to help her out.
How will it help weed out the ones abusing the system. They cut everyone drawing by a certain amount. A family of ONE was cut only $11 and a family of 4 was cut around $36. I am not calling you a liar but I kind of doubt what she is saying. I guess I have just seen too many liars lately. I don't believe anybody and their sob stories. I am having a really hard time but yet I manage. Ramen Noodle soup is only 12 cents a package. You can eat that every day for one meal if you have to. Eat peanut butter or cheese sandwiches. People can eat for a lot less. May not be what they want to eat but it is something to eat.
The person that I was referring to is also on a special diet everything is not always cut an dried there are other facts that I did not give but I guess I wrongly assumed that by giving a description of old retired and disabled that most people would be able to put 2+2 together. There is no way that this person would be able to hold a job she doesn't own a computer and at this point in her life she never will and has never owned one.
I don't know about other food banks and churches but my local ones are very low on food and are begging for donations.
Also, I do not know of any churches in my town that hand out food. They might give $20 to somebody for food. lol. And then pat themselves on the back about how they helped somebody when they have over $100,000 in the bank. I also don't know of any food banks. There is a place to buy cheap mostly expired foods. But they sell it they don't give it away. Things are not getting any better. People can survive with a lot less than they do.
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And if the churches had been doing such a great job, food stamps would not have been needed.
It's not the place of the churches to provide food for every dead beat who will not work. I know way too many people who have went into a church and told a lie to get money that was used for drugs not food. Thus the reason churches quit helping when people randomly asked. I am not defending the churches or attacking them. It just irritates me when people (most of which don't even believe in God) want to blame the churches for people being hungry and homeless and not putting the blame on the person who will not work. I seen 4 different people outside my workplace Saturday holding various signs about hungry, will work for food, need money anything helps. Yet NONE of the dead beats holding a sign will go into where I work and fill out an application. And yes we are hiring.
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What are the churches for, then? Building huge mega-churches and putting satellites in space so they can broadcast around the world??
I never saw where Jesus said anything about that.
I did see where he told Peter, "Feed my sheep."
Churches are supposed to be representatives of God in the world. And if the churches care more about their buildings and their status than they do about people in trouble, then I can't blame people for not believing in God.
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Well for starters, the system is defunct as it is. There are way too many people abusing the system. And what that does is make it worse for the people that truly need it. I see it all the time where I live. I go to the supermarket and see these people with fur coats, diamond rings and food stamps. And these people have at least 4 or 5 kids, so they get money for each of them. I also see the older people, the ones that you can tell don't have anything, they get the short end of the stick. And they get limited stamps and I also have seen the store cashier tell these poor people they are not allowed this or that. But the others, the ones with the furs, get whatever they want. It is very unsettling. I can bet that the people that don't need it will still get way more than those who need it.
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The system is being abused so much by lazy not wanting to work people. Hopefully this will be a good way to get them out of the system and starting working like the rest of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The programs are needed, but not to be abused by those who are too lazy to try to find a job. But it is needed by those who are mentally and physically challenged. I don't think it should be reduced, but the government does what it wants and damn those who are in need. I worked hard all my life so that the lazy ones got paid and bought too expensive clothes and gym shoes so that they can keep up with Joneses. It's rather Ironic really.
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I feel bad for those who really it. But I hope this will weed out the people who are abusing the system. I see people coming out with cart load of food (more than most people in line like crab legs, steaks, etc).
And if the churches had been doing such a great job, food stamps would not have been needed.
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They might give $20 to somebody for food. lol. And then pat themselves on the back about how they helped somebody when they have over $100,000 in the bank.
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That's because the church is also corrupt. :(
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i feel horrible for the ones who truly need it
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I think it will hurt those that really need it; it is unfortunate that the abusers of the program are making it difficult for those who are really in need.
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I just hope it weeds out the bad ones and not the ones that really need it.
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i feel bad for the ones that really need it. my mom received food stamps, she only got 16 dollars a week. since the cutback she gets nothing. for things to be getting better, it really doesnt look like it.
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It's completely absurd. There is no excuse for cutting the funds for this program. The cuts need to be made on the salaries, benefits, and retirements of the government employees (Senate, House, Congress, President, etc.) AND in the way the government is spending funds (wars, funding foreign militias/rebels, bogus aid packages, etc.) This war on the poor needs to end immediately and the coddling of the 1% needs to end immediately. The focus should first and foremost be on the people of its own nation, taking care of its own people and stabilizing the country before it goes about sending money off to others. (A table is only as strong as its legs, and right now the legs of the American table are extraordinarily unstable.)
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How is reducing the amount people receive going to weed out people who abuse the system?
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First, it isn't exactly a reduction. The expansion of the program has expired and it is back to how it was before. I agree though, I think it should weed out a lot of those taking advantage of it. Which I think is much needed.
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It's possible it will weed out those who has never to attempted to work, but sometimes the government go overboard with cutting some people off especially those who are disabled physically and mentally. It is going to be a big problem because there aren't a lot of companies who are not hiring-in fact some companies are closing completely. The balancing act for the program is going to hard on a lot of people.
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Well for starters, the system is defunct as it is. There are way too many people abusing the system. And what that does is make it worse for the people that truly need it. I see it all the time where I live. I go to the supermarket and see these people with fur coats, diamond rings and food stamps. And these people have at least 4 or 5 kids, so they get money for each of them. I also see the older people, the ones that you can tell don't have anything, they get the short end of the stick. And they get limited stamps and I also have seen the store cashier tell these poor people they are not allowed this or that. But the others, the ones with the furs, get whatever they want. It is very unsettling. I can bet that the people that don't need it will still get way more than those who need it.
This is not true. Food stamps will only buy food. Nobody can buy anything else. Fur coat and diamond rings don't make any difference. Although I am doubting this. I have never seen anybody in a fur coat using food stamps. If they have kids they likely get welfare which is cash put on the card to buy what ever they want. Old people can't get that. Just available if you have kids.
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I think it will help weed out the ones who are abusing the system but I feel terrible for the ones that truly need it. I know a lady who is old retired and is disabled. she says that she only got 30 dollars this month. with her being on a really strict budget she has only eaten one meal a day for quite a while well plus a small snack she says she just will eat one meal a day and just half of that and save the other half for tomorrow. she doesn't have any family to help her out.
I think they need to change something like the code of the system and really direct to those people that are wounded. Not people that are stay here and gaining weight. :bad: :bad:
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it is hard to make a choice between food or medicine. or food and car insurance. or food and the electric bill :bad: my boyfriend works construction. since cold weather and the holidays he's only been working 2 0r 3 days a week, but because he actually has a job we are not eligible for govt assistance.
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That's a very sad story! About the reduction I guess it is what it is. There is not much we can do about.
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Messed up for some families that really need it and screw it for some families who over take the food stamp system even though they have enough to buy whatever they need already.
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And if the churches had been doing such a great job, food stamps would not have been needed.
It's not the place of the churches to provide food for every dead beat who will not work. I know way too many people who have went into a church and told a lie to get money that was used for drugs not food. Thus the reason churches quit helping when people randomly asked. I am not defending the churches or attacking them. It just irritates me when people (most of which don't even believe in God) want to blame the churches for people being hungry and homeless and not putting the blame on the person who will not work. I seen 4 different people outside my workplace Saturday holding various signs about hungry, will work for food, need money anything helps. Yet NONE of the dead beats holding a sign will go into where I work and fill out an application. And yes we are hiring.
What are the churches for, then? Building huge mega-churches and putting satellites in space so they can broadcast around the world??
I never saw where Jesus said anything about that.
I did see where he told Peter, "Feed my sheep."
Churches are supposed to be representatives of God in the world. And if the churches care more about their buildings and their status than they do about people in trouble, then I can't blame people for not believing in God.
The Bible also says if a man will not work then neither should he eat. It makes me mad that people want to slam churches and Christians then expect them, many of whom are struggling themselves, to just give them a handout because they want it.
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That scripture was written for a specific circumstance, in a specific time. It wasn't a directive from God.
I slam churches and Christians for not doing their jobs.
What makes you think these people aren't willing to work? And what makes you think that working is going to allow them enough to not need food stamps, or help?
Have you not read about Walmart employees being told by management to sign up for food stamps or Medicaid? Government assistance shouldn't be needed if you're working, but as long as billion dollar companies don't pay a living wage, the government (read taxpayers) continues to subsidize their employees.
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I believe that the dopes that vote this stuff in should have to also live by it. Not get perks after perks after perks. They do not have to be on regular social security, they have their own. They do not have to live on the same health insurance they have "special". Once they leave office they continue to get their salaries. Cut back on unemployment benefits, but do not do anything to actually get more jobs out there that pay livable wages. I have been out off work for a while now, they only want you to work part time, so that they do not have to supply benefits, oh and if you are part time they can also pay you less. I guess they think you are just there for the entertainment. I have had several jobs for 4-8 months where they have me clean up or set up an accounting system, train the employees and then tell me they don't need me anymore. This has been really a bummer situation after having the same job with the same company for over 25 years. They were sold, with the stipulation that the staff was part of the deal, at 6 months we were all let go.
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I think it will help weed out the ones who are abusing the system but I feel terrible for the ones that truly need it. I know a lady who is old retired and is disabled. she says that she only got 30 dollars this month. with her being on a really strict budget she has only eaten one meal a day for quite a while well plus a small snack she says she just will eat one meal a day and just half of that and save the other half for tomorrow. she doesn't have any family to help her out.
I think they need to change something like the code of the system and really direct to those people that are wounded. Not people that are stay here and gaining weight. :bad: :bad:
what does a persons weight have to do with this ...I don't get it...some medications make some people gain weight very easily ???
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I definitely feel terrible for those who are elderly and on a fixed income, however I think all of these programs should be terminated immediately and not offered again until there are fail safes in place to ensure the system abusers are cut off. I think that only people who have contributed to society should be eligible, with those with legitimate disabilities being the exception. Mandatory random drug screens should be conducted as well. In addition there should be restrictions put into place as to what can be bought. People who work for a living can eat just fine using coupons and eating the store brands, so I think only store brands should be allowed to be purchased. There should also be caps put on the price of meat. Filet mignon and crab legs are not a staple when you are on a budget, therefore should not be allowed. Junk food, like ice cream and potato chips are novelty items and should be excluded. A certain portion should of produce should be mandatory monthly. There is nothing wrong with putting restrictions on items purchased, the WIC program does it to all their recipients. I realize not everyone on these types of programs are taking advantage, but far too many are. I am really sick of seeing people receiving assistance living better than taxpayers. I assume I should not run for a public office, as my opinions would probably be too politically incorrect.