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Title: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: ladyrandal on October 12, 2007, 10:51:48 pm
I haven't visited the FC site for a couple of weeks since I cashed out last month. I've checked my account today and my offer completion/referral bonus was denied. I don't know how it happens, I think my step-daughter signed up on my computer. I sent her the referral link but I didn't know that she would go here and use my computer to sign up offers. She lives just one block away from our house.

Is this gonna affect my payment? I have a pending cashout of $92.40.


Pls help.


Thanks!
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: tmbowles on October 12, 2007, 10:58:58 pm
I referred three people where I work and all of their referrals were denied as well.  They said it was because the referral was from the same IP address.   :sad1:
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: Administrator on October 13, 2007, 10:07:10 am
I referred three people where I work and all of their referrals were denied as well.  They said it was because the referral was from the same IP address.   :sad1:
Yeah -- you have to sign up on a personally owned and operated computer to be a valid user.  They signed up on company computers and/or on company internet access.
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: Redsoxfan01918 on October 13, 2007, 02:28:55 pm
edited -Administrator
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: wbibro on October 13, 2007, 07:45:23 pm
Yes, I have over a hundred referrals and now a majority of the referral bonuses I see have suddenly and arbitrarily been denied without explanation.  ...and please don't give me the same ip address story (the odds of this many random referrals gained through banners on my extensive network of web sites (complete strangers) are slim.)

You arbitraily reduced my pending cashout in half.  What gives???  Please advise. 

Now if your referral qualification terms have significantly changed then please state the changes.

I've been with FusionCash for years and it is in the top 5 recommended sites on all of my sites (has been one of my favorite sites to recommend.)  This really is no way to treat a long-term loyal member and rather significant (and steadily growing) referral source.

It almost (stressing the word "almost") looks to me as if you threw darts at a spreadsheet and those referrals/offers unlucky enough to be stuck were sumarily denied.

Now what exactly are you meaning by my referral bonuses and referral offer completions being "denied" (reversed all of a sudden from their previous "approved" status) - Is there a particular reason in my case? (yes I filled out a support ticket.)

Please don't tell me that I am all of a sudden wasting my time top billing FusionCash banners and links on my sites (valuable pixel space.)  Have referrals become a "toss up" deal with FusionCash now?
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: wbibro on October 13, 2007, 11:49:31 pm
Ok, I just received a reply to my support ticket.  I would have replied there but the system does not appear to provide for a means of reply.

Here is what they said:

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Several of the users you referred us were not eligible for membership at FusionCash. This can be due to several reasons: many of your referrals were from out of the country, and one of our requirements is that users be from the U.S. Several others entered false information, such as "asksadfksdkj" for their name or location. In order to be able to pay our users such as yourself for the legitimate referrals that they bring to our site, we sometimes have to deny illegitimate referral bonuses. We apologize for the inconvenience. The reason this was done retroactively is because we cannot have a computer system do it, we have a person do it for reasons of accuracy and therefore there is usually a delay.

Yes, I will agree that ineligible or fraudulent signups should not be credited but the sheer numbers of denials I am looking at statistically or percentage wise on my account show more than the expected occasional fraudulent or ineligible signup.

All I'm doing to promote FusionCash is to develop informative web sites (currently 11 or so) that list incentive sites with banners, links, reviews, and a bit of honest advice.  I then optimize and heavily promote those sites to search engines and indices - nothing out of the ordinary or dishonest.

About the out-of-the-country argument...  Wouldn't your script automatically check the registrant's ip address for obvious red flags such as them using a proxy server or out-of-country ISP node?  (as is customary in the industry)

It appears as though I lost about 6 out of 10 of my new referrals.

The explanation does not seem to add up as logical to me but what else can I do?

Sit here and take it and try and keep a closer eye on the future situation and decide for myself whether or not I wish to hold and recommend FusionCash in such high regards and in such prominence on my sites.   :dontknow:

-- case closed --
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: aianicorp on October 14, 2007, 05:05:49 pm
It Happen to me too! I work in a large company and I told them about fusioncash!
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: Administrator on October 14, 2007, 06:03:49 pm
Ok, I just received a reply to my support ticket.  I would have replied there but the system does not appear to provide for a means of reply.

Here is what they said:

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Several of the users you referred us were not eligible for membership at FusionCash. This can be due to several reasons: many of your referrals were from out of the country, and one of our requirements is that users be from the U.S. Several others entered false information, such as "asksadfksdkj" for their name or location. In order to be able to pay our users such as yourself for the legitimate referrals that they bring to our site, we sometimes have to deny illegitimate referral bonuses. We apologize for the inconvenience. The reason this was done retroactively is because we cannot have a computer system do it, we have a person do it for reasons of accuracy and therefore there is usually a delay.

Yes, I will agree that ineligible or fraudulent signups should not be credited but the sheer numbers of denials I am looking at statistically or percentage wise on my account show more than the expected occasional fraudulent or ineligible signup.

All I'm doing to promote FusionCash is to develop informative web sites (currently 11 or so) that list incentive sites with banners, links, reviews, and a bit of honest advice.  I then optimize and heavily promote those sites to search engines and indices - nothing out of the ordinary or dishonest.

About the out-of-the-country argument...  Wouldn't your script automatically check the registrant's ip address for obvious red flags such as them using a proxy server or out-of-country ISP node?  (as is customary in the industry)
This was implemented after you referred those users.

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It appears as though I lost about 6 out of 10 of my new referrals.

The explanation does not seem to add up as logical to me but what else can I do?

Sit here and take it and try and keep a closer eye on the future situation and decide for myself whether or not I wish to hold and recommend FusionCash in such high regards and in such prominence on my sites.   :dontknow:

-- case closed --
I'm sorry that you feel that way.  I can see the list of referrals, and the ones that were revoked had blaringly obviously fake information or out of country access.  I agree that the percentage is high, but it seems to have been skewed by one user who signed up what appears to be 7 times; all of those were revoked.  Again, we strive for accuracy and honesty and I believe we have credited you for all of the legitimate referrals you generated.
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: ramdhanie on October 14, 2007, 06:07:05 pm
hmm...
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: wbibro on October 15, 2007, 06:57:11 pm
Ok, I just received a reply to my support ticket.  I would have replied there but the system does not appear to provide for a means of reply.

Here is what they said:

Quote
Several of the users you referred us were not eligible for membership at FusionCash. This can be due to several reasons: many of your referrals were from out of the country, and one of our requirements is that users be from the U.S. Several others entered false information, such as "asksadfksdkj" for their name or location. In order to be able to pay our users such as yourself for the legitimate referrals that they bring to our site, we sometimes have to deny illegitimate referral bonuses. We apologize for the inconvenience. The reason this was done retroactively is because we cannot have a computer system do it, we have a person do it for reasons of accuracy and therefore there is usually a delay.

Yes, I will agree that ineligible or fraudulent signups should not be credited but the sheer numbers of denials I am looking at statistically or percentage wise on my account show more than the expected occasional fraudulent or ineligible signup.

All I'm doing to promote FusionCash is to develop informative web sites (currently 11 or so) that list incentive sites with banners, links, reviews, and a bit of honest advice.  I then optimize and heavily promote those sites to search engines and indices - nothing out of the ordinary or dishonest.

About the out-of-the-country argument...  Wouldn't your script automatically check the registrant's ip address for obvious red flags such as them using a proxy server or out-of-country ISP node?  (as is customary in the industry)
This was implemented after you referred those users.

Quote
It appears as though I lost about 6 out of 10 of my new referrals.

The explanation does not seem to add up as logical to me but what else can I do?

Sit here and take it and try and keep a closer eye on the future situation and decide for myself whether or not I wish to hold and recommend FusionCash in such high regards and in such prominence on my sites.   :dontknow:

-- case closed --
I'm sorry that you feel that way.  I can see the list of referrals, and the ones that were revoked had blaringly obviously fake information or out of country access.  I agree that the percentage is high, but it seems to have been skewed by one user who signed up what appears to be 7 times; all of those were revoked.  Again, we strive for accuracy and honesty and I believe we have credited you for all of the legitimate referrals you generated.

Ok, I'll have to take your word for it and I am making peace with it...  ...and I'll let the issue die.

Now, looking forward...  My $43 something cashout (above threshhold when I cashed out) has fallen to $20 something bucks (below threshold becuase of the sudden unexpected numerous denials) - will this cashout still fly (approve and get paid) or should I be dreading another disappointment?  If it's not going to approve through normal channels can you please step in and push it through for me...  ...for old time's sake (now I'm pushing it...   :bootyshake:  :notworthy: )  Have a nice day  ;)
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: ramdhanie on October 15, 2007, 09:13:10 pm
hmm.. and the drama goes on.. days of our lives...
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: Administrator on October 16, 2007, 03:25:16 am
will this cashout still fly (approve and get paid) or should I be dreading another disappointment?  If it's not going to approve through normal channels can you please step in and push it through for me...  ...for old time's sake (now I'm pushing it...   :bootyshake:  :notworthy: )  Have a nice day  ;)
Yes, we already decided to make an exception in your case because of the retroactive denials.
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: ajadedego on October 16, 2007, 05:27:07 am
SAME THING HAPPEND TO ME YESTERDAY AND SAME STORY!!!!!! I KNOW ITS NOT THE CASE, and they said my friend will not be able to cash out, yet shes pendng and fine so far lol.  Funny, its really funny we bring them money, but then they take the referal money away from us! its not fair, i wish there was a number to call, because if my friend does get her check, im gonna be pissed and would love to here as why it was deined still.........
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: boobalou on October 16, 2007, 07:13:03 am
wow...... how are yall goin to talk crap to people who give you money???????  :o  :dontknow:
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: tmbowles on October 16, 2007, 07:18:15 am
I was thinking the same thing.  Yeah, it kind of sucked that three of my referrals were denied but oh well.  It's not like I'm not making money on here. 
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: wbibro on October 16, 2007, 09:57:26 am
will this cashout still fly (approve and get paid) or should I be dreading another disappointment?  If it's not going to approve through normal channels can you please step in and push it through for me...  ...for old time's sake (now I'm pushing it...   :bootyshake:  :notworthy: )  Have a nice day  ;)
Yes, we already decided to make an exception in your case because of the retroactive denials.

Thank you very much sir.

I'm launching two new referral sites with high hopes later this week.  I'll continue to promote FusionCash as among the cream of the crop of the incentive sites.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: justinkingsmusic on October 16, 2007, 10:57:43 pm
As long as you don't sign up on your computer you will still get referral bonuses...... :- :BangHead:
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: Madd4Money on October 17, 2007, 12:17:45 am
As long as you don't sign up on your computer you will still get referral bonuses...... :- :BangHead:

I think he means as long as THEY don't sign up on YOUR computer.   :wave:  Also, they must enter truthful information.  Fraudulent information entered by a referral is also a way for you to be denied your referral bonus.   :dog:
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: brandonroy on October 17, 2007, 12:53:10 am
Erm. I hope this doesnt happen to me this month. I have $83 from referrals from this month and all of the names look like different people to me.
I'll be extremely upset thinking im getting over 100 bucks then only get like 50 or 60 bucks
Title: Re: Referral Bonus Denied?
Post by: cheff1983 on October 17, 2007, 04:59:09 am
yeah im up to about 60 dollars in referrals this month. it would be a shame to not get all that.