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Amos 9 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Amos+9&version=KJV): "9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth."
But Jesus said, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a grain of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit."
I'm missing the memorial service of Jimmy Spencer today ... he was a good guy, but I don't attend 'gatherings in the name of death' ... like I told an Elder-of-the-Church, it's "against my religion."
You could say "I believe that Jimmy Spencer is as dead as Jesus is"---i.e. "the Spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak." Even though the flesh is quickened by the Spirit, the flesh will still hold to the patterns you feed it. The church holds some beliefs that I believe are anti-Heaven. As 'things you hold true on Earth will be held true in the Here-after,' I can't believe he's resting ...
And celebrating death-days more than birthdays ... not a pattern I want to show-approval-of-by-joining-in.... Jesus was about life, so I would approve of celebrating Jimmy's birthday!
That Jimmy Spencer-stuff was off-topic ... I WANTED to say something about what the prophecy's difference from Jesus' words shows something about the difference between people and A People (a nation). People are the husks & stems etc. that fall off of the harvested wheat (and go on to fertilize the future), Nations are the 'whole grains' that humans refine into fuel for other humans. ('Humans'---beings brought out of the very-same ground from which the wheat draws nourishment :dontknow: )
I guess what I wanted to say was that--for me--Jimmy Spencer is 'just like Christ' (which is the way Our Father sees us), and thus "remembering what Jimmy was like as an individual in life" is taking our eyes off Christ (like Peter, falling in the water when he took his eyes off Our Lord).
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Amos 9 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Amos+9&version=KJV): "9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth."
But Jesus said, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a grain of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit."
I'm missing the memorial service of Jimmy Spencer today ... he was a good guy, but I don't attend 'gatherings in the name of death' ... like I told an Elder-of-the-Church, it's "against my religion."
You could say "I believe that Jimmy Spencer is as dead as Jesus is"---i.e. "the Spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak." Even though the flesh is quickened by the Spirit, the flesh will still hold to the patterns you feed it. The church holds some beliefs that I believe are anti-Heaven. As 'things you hold true on Earth will be held true in the Here-after,' I can't believe he's resting ...
And celebrating death-days more than birthdays ... not a pattern I want to show-approval-of-by-joining-in.... Jesus was about life, so I would approve of celebrating Jimmy's birthday!
That Jimmy Spencer-stuff was off-topic ... I WANTED to say something about what the prophecy's difference from Jesus' words shows something about the difference between people and A People (a nation). People are the husks & stems etc. that fall off of the harvested wheat (and go on to fertilize the future), Nations are the 'whole grains' that humans refine into fuel for other humans. ('Humans'---beings brought out of the very-same ground from which the wheat draws nourishment :dontknow: )
I guess what I wanted to say was that--for me--Jimmy Spencer is 'just like Christ' (which is the way Our Father sees us), and thus "remembering what Jimmy was like as an individual in life" is taking our eyes off Christ (like Peter, falling in the water when he took his eyes off Our Lord).