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Title: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: countrygirl12 on July 07, 2015, 10:04:14 am
I got a breaking news alert where the statements he made several years ago, the ones he was fighting to keep a secret, were finally made to be released.  He admitted he traded sex for drugs.  Still not sure he raped any one.  I think it's like he said...he traded drugs (that they wanted) for sex.  At any rate, I am going to trash the dvds I have of the Cosby Show.  Actually I was wondering if I took them back to Walmart if I can get my money back???  They sold the trash.  Let them deal with it.
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: Nancy5 on July 07, 2015, 10:20:12 am
I saw that on the news today.  He admitted getting the drugs but did not admit to any rapes.  I wonder how long before he finally admittes what he did.
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: countrygirl12 on July 07, 2015, 10:26:47 am
Idk Nancy.  The more I think about it since it was a sedative I don't think that is usually something that is abused.  His saying it that way makes it sound like the women wanted to have sex in exchange for the drugs.  I have previously said I didn't believe it because why would so many women not say anything.  But if they all thought they were the only one and nobody told anyone (which I find hard to believe)  then maybe after one admitted it then the others did too.

Wonder if Walmart would give me my money back on these DVDs?  Everyone should mail them to his house.

As for admitting anything - If he did drug the women and rape them he is not going to admit it.  Although it wouldn't matter because the statute of limitations is up so I don't think he can go to jail now.  And I doubt they could get money now.  It would just be letting the people know the truth.  And when you are in the public eye and the public made you rich then people have a right to know the truth.
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: Nancy5 on July 07, 2015, 10:37:41 am
Have to agree with you countrygirl.  I highly doubt any of the women can get any money out of him anymore.  But...his 'status' as a star has to be hurting.
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: gaylasue on July 07, 2015, 12:24:09 pm
I have said since the beginning of this on-going saga that he is guilty of drugging and raping the women that are coming forward.  Too much consistency in their recollection of the incidents.
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: BATISTAGIRL663 on July 07, 2015, 01:00:55 pm
this is just a bad situation all around --in hollywood drugs and sex are going on all over --i just feel bad for all involved
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: sweetmom75 on July 07, 2015, 01:10:25 pm
I used to admire him but now I feel sad that he is one of them.
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: vg7405 on July 07, 2015, 02:27:10 pm
As far as I am concerned, whether the women wanted the drugs or not is irrelevant. He DRUGGED them in order to have sex, which means that they were unable to provide consent...which in my opinion constitutes rape.

And while we are returning Cosby Show DVDs, we should pitch cases of Jell-O at him.  >:(
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: mardukblood2009 on July 07, 2015, 05:26:51 pm
I am so sick and tired of hearing about this. This is another reason I don't watch tv unless I am forced to, say at a truck stop or something. >:(
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: hitch0403 on July 07, 2015, 06:12:08 pm
My gut because so many woman came out was something smelled here.

RE what happens and all the statue of limitations stuff,he will have to live with his conscience and stand before God like all of us.

I was never really a big fan anyway of his so i have nothing to return and i didnt watch his tv show either.
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: jmc1070 on July 07, 2015, 06:21:29 pm
Concerning the dads and walmart, you can't return them if the outer wrapping is missing. Not allowed to accept them back due to federal copyright laws and pirating.
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: countrygirl12 on July 08, 2015, 08:54:23 am
Nancy- I am sure it is.  I am throwing away the dvds of the Cosby Show.  I don't want them.  And BET has dropped reruns of the show as well as Bounce.

Gaylasue- I remember that from our previous discussions.  :)

VG7405- I had forgotten about the Jello.  I understand what you are saying.  I was meaning if they knowingly traded drugs for sex.  I will have sex with you if you give me drugs.  A lot of women do that.  I also take into consideration they were a Playboy.  They were posing nude and I am sure having sex to get ahead.  It's how it works.  They used him to get ahead.  I have no use for him knowing he done what he did.  But I don't have any use for the women either because I think they had sex to get ahead and then are crying rape later.  Without having ALL the details, which we will never have, it's really hard to say for sure.  I know the one he paid her money every month for a long time.  That's not called rape.  It's called prostitution.

Mardukblood2009- I don't usually watch the news.  I got a breaking news alert and read it.

Hitch0403- I somehow doubt he is being bothered mentally.  And yes, he has to stand before God.  But the difference is God will forgive him if he asks.  And it is forgotten.  People can't seem to do that.

JMC1070- I kind of figured they wouldn't want to take them back but sometimes they will in certain cases. And I have bought DVDs that I opened and wouldn't play and I took it back and exchanged it for another one and it was no problem.  It will most likely just go in the trash.  I haven't taken the time to hunt it out yet.  I think I only have one set.  As for pirating - I don't know how to do that.  The dvds have a copy protection on them.  I have no idea how to remove or get around those.  Don't really care to learn. lol
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: devideddi on July 08, 2015, 10:39:45 am
they should put him in jail
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: aflyingmonkey on July 08, 2015, 11:04:48 am
I read that Walt Disney World removed his statue already from their Hollywood Studios
He's condemned already by public opinion, whether it turns out he is guilty or not.   The entire situation is so creepy... the man is worth 400 million & yet he still felt he needed to drug & rape women (allegedly), so crazy.   
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: countrygirl12 on July 08, 2015, 11:27:19 am
I read that Walt Disney World removed his statue already from their Hollywood Studios
He's condemned already by public opinion, whether it turns out he is guilty or not.   The entire situation is so creepy... the man is worth 400 million & yet he still felt he needed to drug & rape women (allegedly), so crazy.   

He admitted with his own mouth and they have it on tape that he traded sex for drugs.  Whether it was rape or consensual is yet to be determined.  But even if it was he was married and was giving young girls drugs in exchange for sex.  So even if it was not rape he done something really bad and it destroys the nice family man, protector of all, image people had.  But I have heard that some of his comedy routines were pretty raunchy.  Idk.  I never heard any of them.
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: dogsleash on July 08, 2015, 11:27:51 am
I believe bill should pay for what he has done and his wife needs to step away from his side and realize he is not the kind hatred man we all believed that he was. With that said I will not stop watching the Cosby show. It was a part of my life when I was a kid.
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: hitch0403 on July 08, 2015, 02:01:24 pm
You dont just ask God for forgivness and its granted.God sees the heart condition of us all.IOW you arent going to fool HIM!!

Yes if we are truly repentant forgivness is granted on the sacrifice Jesus made with HIS life.If its just lip service its NOT the same!!
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: sherryfan on July 08, 2015, 03:36:53 pm
they should put him in jail

At this age, I think he doesn't even care about going to jail, but is it really ashamed.
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: sherryinutah on July 09, 2015, 01:12:49 am
My perception was that he use the drugs to persuade young women to have sex with him.  He drugged them without their permission; which is considered NON consentual. 

From my point of view....that makes him a predator.    :heart:
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: countrygirl12 on July 09, 2015, 06:09:36 am
You dont just ask God for forgivness and its granted.God sees the heart condition of us all.IOW you arent going to fool HIM!!

Yes if we are truly repentant forgivness is granted on the sacrifice Jesus made with HIS life.If its just lip service its NOT the same!!

It IS that simple.  I wouldn't think people would ask for forgiveness if they didn't mean it. 
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: countrygirl12 on July 09, 2015, 06:13:34 am
they should put him in jail

At this age, I think he doesn't even care about going to jail, but is it really ashamed.

Yes he cares about going to jail.  If he had to go to a real jail and spend the rest of his life.  Not the resort that celebrities go to.  But like we previously said the stat of limitations is up so I don't think he can be punished for anything.  Just be outted for what he really is.

 
My perception was that he use the drugs to persuade young women to have sex with him.  He drugged them without their permission; which is considered NON consentual. 

From my point of view....that makes him a predator.    :heart:

If he drugged them without their knowledge yes.  But if it was a trade off -  (I want drugs, you have them, I can't pay money for them, yeah I will have sex for the trade) then it is not rape.  We will never know the truth because neither side will tell the entire whole truth. Only God knows.  Well, they know - but I don't think "they" being either side will ever tell the entire whole truth.
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: hitch0403 on July 09, 2015, 10:42:10 am
You dont just ask God for forgivness and its granted.God sees the heart condition of us all.IOW you arent going to fool HIM!!

Yes if we are truly repentant forgivness is granted on the sacrifice Jesus made with HIS life.If its just lip service its NOT the same!!

It IS that simple.  I wouldn't think people would ask for forgiveness if they didn't mean it. 

No deception in this world???Are you kidding me?
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: hitch0403 on July 09, 2015, 10:52:38 am
The Boston bomber said he was sorry to the victims familys in court recently.I am not in a position to see his heart and know if he really was.But clearly what they did He deserves to be punished and be put to death.

If the good Lord sees in his heart he was truly sorry for that act of terrorism...it is only HE that can decide that!
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: countrygirl12 on July 10, 2015, 11:52:17 am
You dont just ask God for forgivness and its granted.God sees the heart condition of us all.IOW you arent going to fool HIM!!

Yes if we are truly repentant forgivness is granted on the sacrifice Jesus made with HIS life.If its just lip service its NOT the same!!

It IS that simple.  I wouldn't think people would ask for forgiveness if they didn't mean it. 

No deception in this world???Are you kidding me?

What does this mean?
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: countrygirl12 on July 10, 2015, 12:00:34 pm
The Boston bomber said he was sorry to the victims familys in court recently.I am not in a position to see his heart and know if he really was.But clearly what they did He deserves to be punished and be put to death.

If the good Lord sees in his heart he was truly sorry for that act of terrorism...it is only HE that can decide that!

Saying you are sorry to the victim of your crime and crying in hopes of the court being lenient  or even asking the victim to forgive you to show is not the same thing as praying to God and asking for forgiveness.  He can ask forgiveness from the victim and still not be forgiven by God because he didn't ask God.  That is assuming he even knows God.  I wouldn't think a person who is a Christian would not something like that to start with.

Having said that, I read something online a while back about where so many people are confronting bullies from their childhood.  Or where a bully contacts their victim and says "oh sorry for how I treated you" and all is suppose to be good.  The author of the article said if that happens then it is on the victim and it's their problem if they refuse to accept the apology.  I disagree.  I don't hold any grudges against the people who bullied me in school but no we can't be friends today.  Want nothing to do with any of them.  Although if the apology were sincere it would mean something.  I recently was at a restaurant and I guy I didn't think I knew called me by name.  He talked to me a few minutes and said I want to tell you something.  He apologized for some things he done 20 years or so ago.  I had forgotten about it.  But you could tell he really meant it.  It wasn't just so he could feel better.  There is a difference.
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: countrygirl12 on July 10, 2015, 12:02:29 pm
I would also think if he were really sorry for anything then he would not still be denying all wrong doing.  He also fought really hard to keep the tapes secret where he admitted he had exchanged drugs for sex.  And like I said before even if they wanted to give him sex favors in exchange for the drugs in my opinion he is still scum.
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: hitch0403 on July 10, 2015, 11:16:29 pm
what i meant with deception is you cant trust some.Some might say please forgive me for my mistake and they really dont mean it.The world is full of many.

I know how i feel if i accuse someone of something and i am wrong.I also realize there are many today that cant admit when they are or just dont care even if they are knowingly wrong.

Again i have my opinion of Cosby.But do i really know what happened?NO i dont.The good Lord does and also the Lord knows if hes truly repentant if he is guilty.

It sells copy in this world.The human being is attracted to news thats *bleep*!!
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: dizzybird on July 11, 2015, 11:44:41 am
This just gets worse every day. So many respected public figures are being exposed for having seriously shady pasts that it makes me wonder about all of them!
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: countrygirl12 on July 12, 2015, 05:12:01 am
what i meant with deception is you cant trust some.Some might say please forgive me for my mistake and they really dont mean it.The world is full of many.

I know how i feel if i accuse someone of something and i am wrong.I also realize there are many today that cant admit when they are or just dont care even if they are knowingly wrong.

Again i have my opinion of Cosby.But do i really know what happened?NO i dont.The good Lord does and also the Lord knows if hes truly repentant if he is guilty.

It sells copy in this world.The human being is attracted to news thats *bleep*!!

I get what you are saying.  What I was saying was if he asked GOD to forgive him then He will. Even if people do not.  And you are right bs sells.  And the media is probably 98% of the problems in this country.  But as long as people flock to it then it won't change.
Title: Re: Bill Cosby - New development
Post by: countrygirl12 on July 12, 2015, 05:13:13 am
This just gets worse every day. So many respected public figures are being exposed for having seriously shady pasts that it makes me wonder about all of them!

Don't know anybody that gets to the top by being a good person.  I don't really respect any of them.  And you never really know anyone anyway.  You just don't.