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What and who do you think is the cause of the violence at the political rallies? ::)
Are we doomed to a season of political unrest and violence? What a shame. :'(
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At Trump's almost-rally in Chicago, the unrest is the result of good people taking to arms to defend themselves against a despicable man with despicable politics. The idea that he even tried to hold a rally in a city primarily African-American and Latino whilst preaching for the latter to be deported boggles my mind even now.
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Donald Trump is a complete and utter moron. He really needs to bow out of the race lest he become victim of the vitriolic rhetoric that he likes to spew.
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I just don't understand why all this violence is happening - why can't we all just get along??
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At Trump's almost-rally in Chicago, the unrest is the result of good people taking to arms to defend themselves against a despicable man with despicable politics.
I didn't realize that Trump had actually ambushed the guy and was physically attacking him! For in order for "good people" to take up arms to "defend themselves", Trump would have had to have done just as I said. Unfortunately in reality, we had a US citizen that was attacked when holding a legal assembly (legal in the sense that proper permits were obtained) and was making a speech at said assembly. It is very scary if you think that physical violence is a justified response against any speech that some other person finds objectionable. Yet this seems to be the frame of mind of many as evidenced by the riots throughout last few years. The entire purpose of the 1st Amendment was to protect speech that may be controversial and / or outright objectionable to others. It is NOT up to some protestor to "protect" our nation from a candidate that they feel would harm the country from what they have said by inciting physical violence.
By the same token, all of this indicates why I feel that Trump would also not make a good president. Trump too has made comments that would support using physical violence against others that don't agree with him; he has even said that he'd pay for any legal fees if doing said violence would get the person arrested. Also, just as the protestor's goal was to stifle free speech, Trump has also made statements suggesting that he too supports stifling other's free speech by saying he wants to weaken libel laws to make it easier to sue others that make damaging remarks (regardless of whether what was said was indeed true).
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Trumps idea of free speech is shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theater.
Inciting violence is NOT exercising your right to freedom of speech.
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Math 26:52
"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.
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I just hope when he faces hillary in ny it is not violent
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At Trump's almost-rally in Chicago, the unrest is the result of good people taking to arms to defend themselves against a despicable man with despicable politics. The idea that he even tried to hold a rally in a city primarily African-American and Latino whilst preaching for the latter to be deported boggles my mind even now.
Don'cha know? Millions and millions of African-Americans and Hispanics love him. They just love him. Guess that's why BLM and a lot of Hispanics are protesting outside his rallies.
The threats to his family, though, is despicable. I don't know who would do that if they hate Trump so much and it's odd that they threaten family members instead of him.
I think Trump is causing the unrest himself, especially since he offered to pay for the defense of anyone who punches a protester out. Now he says if he isn't the nominee, there's liable to be riots...I think that's more than a thought. I think he's suggesting it to happen. After all, violence at his rallies didn't start until he told his crowds that he'd "punch the guy out."
Through it all, some people are sooooo wrapped up in believing everything this guy says that it's destroying friendships.
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I think Trump is causing the unrest himself, especially since he offered to pay for the defense of anyone who punches a protester out. Now he says if he isn't the nominee, there's liable to be riots...I think that's more than a thought. I think he's suggesting it to happen. After all, violence at his rallies didn't start until he told his crowds that he'd "punch the guy out."
Although I agree that some of his rhetoric does indeed promote violence, I don't think that his comment about riots happening if he doesn't get the nomination is meant to suggest that it should happen, but is more a statement on the nomination process itself.... Basically were he to win the primary elections but the party decided to change the rules at the convention so that he doesn't get nominated by the party, it would be seen as a slap in the face to anyone that voted in the primary (whether they voted for Trump) for it would be the party essentially saying that they won't listen to the base, but rather are going out on their own. It is the same frustration that Bernie Sanders supporters feel when his primary votes are very favorable, but the super-delegates throw their votes towards Clinton instead; it becomes more the party than the party's base that decide for a particular candidate.
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The idea that someone promoting disgusting racist and near-fascist rhetoric should be allowed to speak because "free speech" is an attitude that has poisoned the US for quite some time.
You cannot debate a fascist. You cannot debate someone who refuses to acknowledge your humanity. You can only defend yourself.
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March 21, 2016
Hello everyone out there in Fusion Cash World:
I am not too politically savy. The only thing I remember quite clearly that stands out in my mind about Trump is that he
said in one of his speeches that America needs to either close or guard the boarders more closely.
And then, he talked about deporting the millions of Hispanics who cross over to this country illegally and some of those who have crossed over to this country illegally have had no choice in the matter because there are some Hispanic parents (I heard this on a documentary on tv regarding migration) who have sent their children to cross the border illegally into our country.
From what I understood; the parents hire a coyote and the coyote then leads groups of families that have uncles, aunts, cousins, and, of course, older, as well as, younger siblings, the coyote leads these groups of families into this country.
And, if all goes well for these families illegally crossing the border; they find refuge from their own relatives and friends already in this country, including the children, of course.,
But, the sad part of this whole scenario is that then in some cases, the government will step in, for instance, and (as was the case) for a young Hispanic adult woman who had been raised and educated in this country is now told by the
American government, "Ok, Elena you are not an American citizen and now the American government must deport you
back to Mexico)
And, Elena is now in for the fight of her life just to be able to continue to live in this country without the American government harassing her because of her ethnicity.
It's just a total outrage .....because as Elena pointed out to the American government, "I was a child forced to come to this country by my parents." !
"My parents are dead now." "And, as far as the Mexican government is concerned, I am not welcomed back into their country. since they now consider me a pocha neither white or Hispanic, but I am now a woman without a country
How sad, Trump How sad!
Very sad! And, that's all I have to say!
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The violence at the trump rallies is more about the left trying to stop the inevitable - The next president,,Trump.
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I believe that everyone shall fight for what is right!!!
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I believe that everyone shall fight for what is right!!!
Atom bombs dropped......planes flying into buildings....people beheaded......hmmmmm.....heckuva way to fight for what you think is right!!
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We are becoming like banana republic or central american, things getting bad....
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keep the peace and keep hope alive
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Trump has brought the violence to these rallies himself and the one thing I do NOT approve of is the protests at yesterday's rally. Of course, they're not normal protesters. They now include GANGS along with different races he spoke against, anarchists and unions. Some of those protesters are being paid to protest, but it went too far yesterday. All encouraged by the left wing radicals like George Soros. It's a well known fact that he pumps millions of $$ into the democratic party's candidates every election. His hatred of America and it's freedoms keeps him going strong. He wants a government like Venezuela.
One supporter had his lip ring ripped out and another one had a bloodied head, and a woman was punched in the face. A really big guy was attacked by 2 radicals but he was able to push them away. They CHASED some supporters and when caught, started hammering them.....where were the cops?
Standing on the side in riot gear not doing much of anything. if I were his supporters that were injured, I'd be suing the cops and the city for allowing this to happen.
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people are suppose to have self control.
Something or someone can stimulate our emotions.
it's "easy to blame someone" for causing trouble.
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is gonna be violence is never gunna stop so at the end of the day is going to come to a point where they gunna take guns off the street somehow :) ;) >:(
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To be completely honest I don't even watch the rallies cause it feels like I'm watching a scripted WWE show
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I think that there is an element, known as political agitators, that keeps the violence going....
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When you have a few people calling for bloodshed a few nuts will listen.
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I think that there is an element, known as political agitators, that keeps the violence going....
Many of the protestors are brought in from out of state and paid to "help the cause."
I believe George Soros may be one of the principles in that effort. >:(
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"Trump brought the violence on himself"
I hate the victim blaming. After all it would be horrid to say that the women that Trump (may have) groped brought it on themselves by their fixation on the rich and powerful. Regardless of the rhetoric that people may disagree with, there is no reason for the violence. Yet now we have firebombings in the NC GOP office. This violence is nothing more than a form of silencing opposition -- using scare techniques to abridge someone's free speech.
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And then there are these idiots on YouTube that are using the violence against Trump in order to stir up trouble and just get ratings for themselves. The Drudge report (as well as some other right-wing blogs) have been reporting about a YouTube video from Joey Salads that shows HRC supporters in a black neighborhood vandalizing a car that had Trump bumperstickers and other pro-Trump paraphernalia. According to Salads, this was a social experiment to show what would happen were he to leave this car in a black neighborhood.... Except that it's staged. Not only the car being placed in a supposed black neighborhood, but the "vandalism" as well. Hoax buster Mark Dice does a great job in exposing Salads video as being fake. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDtjVkAZky4)
People like Joey Salads are just stirring up needless trouble, esp. during this election season, by basically making a racist video trying to depict any / all black HRC supporters as being violent. SMH
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The Democrats operatives are the planners of the violence at the rallies...I think
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protesters are usually the ones who provokes violence. In my observation to protests around the world. It doe not mean that if they don't get what they want, they resort to violence to get attention to some media or government entities.
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I hear that the violence is funded by the left to disrupt the elections on the right....