FC Community

Discussion Boards => Off-Topic => Topic started by: ktheodos on September 08, 2016, 09:44:12 am

Title: Kaepernick
Post by: ktheodos on September 08, 2016, 09:44:12 am
Thoughts about his decision to not stand for national anthem?
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: bremer51 on September 08, 2016, 11:27:55 am
I don't like it, but he has the right to stand or not.
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: Tresbn00 on September 09, 2016, 06:39:52 pm
I thought that Kaepernick was a fine athlete about two years ago but found that he began to rely on his running game more then passing performance. Since this began happening Kaepernick fell into somewhat of a "b" list of athletes attached to a heavy contract that no one wanted to absorb. His decline deepened until he was about to be let go/traded which, suspiciously, coincides with his new found social consciousness. I certainly agree that he has the right to stand or not but there is a time and a place for making political statements and I do not believe nationally televised football games are either. Where was he when Ferguson broke lose? He is said to have given one million dollars to better the cause which represents less than one percent of his income. Sadly he is one of two reasons that I will be watching scores rather then games because I also have the right not to support sponsors of this activity.
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: dancer139 on September 09, 2016, 07:13:37 pm
he is an idiot,  sit or stand I don't care about him.  But I don't think a football game is the place to try and make a statement.  Your there to play a game,,,,,,  not show that your an A$$.
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: Segun15 on September 09, 2016, 08:05:01 pm
i think he was being disrespectful. but his choice
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: JediJohnnie on September 16, 2016, 01:28:10 am
I think it's disrespectful. You should respect the people that fought and died for this country by respecting our National Anthem.
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: mgint on September 17, 2016, 06:11:09 am
dont like what he does but he has the right to do it.
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: alina6 on September 17, 2016, 07:42:03 pm
I think we have an issue in this country, unfortunately I don't think disrespecting the flag helps. I especially did not like the American soccer player who was representing our country not standing for the anthem. If you don't respect this country then don't represent us to the world.
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: tfw6693 on September 18, 2016, 06:20:56 am
Pathetic.

He is being paid 26 million to play. Not to protest.

If he wants to do that, let him do it on his own time.

I quit watching football because of this.

Oldfriend
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: mrrangerrick on September 18, 2016, 11:31:24 am
He has the right not to stand, but I don't think it's doing much. I mean, people are saying he's a catalyst, but I he's protesting in the wrong way. He's protesting cops...not the nation.
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: monnee on September 18, 2016, 02:20:04 pm
The niners should have traded him.  Now he's the highest paid second string quarterback in the nfl.
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: plennis on September 18, 2016, 05:13:36 pm
He is starting conversations, which was the whole point of his protest.  He was also doing the protesting for  several games before the media got a hold of it.  If you want to make a point where better.  I don't agree with his methods, but he has every right to do it.  We are talking about him which is what he wanted, so some people will actually look into what he is protesting, so he has succeeded in furthering his point.     
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: NicoleFusion on September 18, 2016, 06:38:01 pm
I believe in free speech, but also believe that you are not free from people's reactions to what you do or say. So good on him for standing up for what he believes in, and good on the people who disagree. That's dialogue, and I much prefer this to sound bites. For myself, I would have trouble making the statement he's making. When is it going to be good enough for him to show patriotism again? He almost seems to say that the disenfranchised don't have a stake in our patriotic ideals, and I don't believe that. I think those who want to fight for democracy are lucky to be American. And I also see that there's some hypocrisy in taking millions to play football, but saying that inequity bothers you. Sorry, but having athletic skills does nothing to better anyone else but yourself. Put your money where your mouth is.
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: autumnsparklemom on September 19, 2016, 09:02:40 am
Think he is being disrespectful.
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: dancer139 on September 19, 2016, 10:09:33 am
he is an idiot and needs thrown off the NFL.   Take your stupid cause off the football field
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: ghunter on September 19, 2016, 12:24:19 pm
Dancer139 you are the idiot, just because you believe in one thing and him another.  He have rights just like you.  No one say any thing when children are told not to said the pledge of alliance to the flag, what the difference???   Flag..National Anthem it's all the same, but because he chose not to sing or stand to a song that means nothing to him and people of color you call him an idiot..come on.
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: JediJohnnie on September 19, 2016, 12:55:44 pm
The sad thing is, in the NBA they'll fine or suspend you for not respecting the national anthem. The NFL is so PC word is the Cheerleaders will be wearing Burkas next year.
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: hawkeye3210 on September 19, 2016, 01:31:35 pm
He is starting conversations, which was the whole point of his protest.  He was also doing the protesting for  several games before the media got a hold of it.  If you want to make a point where better.  I don't agree with his methods, but he has every right to do it.  We are talking about him which is what he wanted, so some people will actually look into what he is protesting, so he has succeeded in furthering his point.     

He really hasn't succeeded at anything. The conversations have been about standing for flag, not what he is protesting. It's also not like the issues he was protesting weren't getting any attention before this protest. Now, the media has essentially moved on.
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: hitch0403 on September 19, 2016, 01:55:24 pm
The sad thing is, in the NBA they'll fine or suspend you for not respecting the national anthem. The NFL is so PC word is the Cheerleaders will be wearing Burkas next year.

Yeah the NBA is way ahead of them all.....the players can just go out and rape someone and settle a civil suit!

Just another sign of the "last days"how crazy this world would become.
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: vickysue on September 19, 2016, 02:01:19 pm
I find it disrespectful.  There are a lot of other ways he could do things to help out the so called injustice of the colored, but not disrespecting our country. I say put his money  where his mouth is and do something helpful. White people adopted  him and he is not showing  kindness to them. This is a  football player who could be out  helping and encourging the people to do better,  but he is not. I won't watch a football game if he or any other players are not respecting our country.
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: hitch0403 on September 19, 2016, 02:29:23 pm
How do any of you know he hasnt donated to the poor?Or what kind of person he is?Not that i know but all this based on NOT bowing to an idol!!

Ill bet some of you worshipped Bill Cosby and i am sure he would stand for the NA!!!The piece of garbage it looks like he is!!

The parable in the bible at Luke Chaptor 10 is of Jesus giving a parable about a Good Samaritan.Prejudice and nationalism isnt required for it to reach the heart!

BTW I am a Bears fan!!
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: surveypro2016 on September 19, 2016, 02:39:19 pm
Everyone in this country has a right to do and say what they want however you need to be ready to accept the consequences of your actions. He is allegedly taking a stand (no pun intended) for something he believes in. Either that or he needed some more attention via the media which he is getting.
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: JediJohnnie on September 20, 2016, 01:36:20 am
How do any of you know he hasnt donated to the poor?Or what kind of person he is?Not that i know but all this based on NOT bowing to an idol!!

Ill bet some of you worshipped Bill Cosby and i am sure he would stand for the NA!!!The piece of garbage it looks like he is!!

The parable in the bible at Luke Chaptor 10 is of Jesus giving a parable about a Good Samaritan.Prejudice and nationalism isnt required for it to reach the heart!

BTW I am a Bears fan!!

Standing respectfully for the National Anthem isn't "Bowing before idols". It shows respect for the country. I hope you're never in front of a judge and need to explain to him how you won't rise when he comes in, because you'd be bowing to idols!
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: hitch0403 on September 20, 2016, 09:07:09 am
Satan told Jesus for an act of worship i will give you all these kingdoms <earthly>......all flags represent world.My kingdom is no part of this world said Jesus.Jesus never disputed they belonged to Satan.

The father must be worshipped with spirit and truth said.A judge must represent righteousness and truth.You would bbe standing before Jehovah.If the judges laws compromise Gods truths with no disrespect as the apostles did we must obey God as ruler.

The world did not give us life.Jehovah is only source of that and that is why there should be no other gods before him.

Rev 4:11
Title: Re: Kaepernick
Post by: linderlizzie on September 20, 2016, 10:40:30 am
Over the past few weeks a handful of NFL players have refused to stand during the playing of America’s national anthem. Fans have been outraged that the NFL sits idly by while its employees disrespect this great nation.  :'(

Some proponents of this protest by players have cited the First Amendment as a justification for these actions. While the First Amendment prevents government from abridging freedom of speech, it does not prevent the NFL from having a code of conduct that requires its employees to stand at attention during the playing of the national anthem.  :star:

The National Football League has many standards when it comes to player conduct. Players are only allowed to wear gear during interviews and games that are authorized by the NFL. Violation of the gear standards can bring hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines. Eonline.com provided what they called 14 "ridiculous" examples of players being fined for violating NFL policy.

Congress has established standards for participation in the National Anthem. The NFL has fostered an environment that allows blatant disrespect for our anthem, flag and nation. 36 U.S. Code 301 says, "all other persons present should face the flag and stand at attention with their right hand over the heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart..."

How embarrassing will it be if dozens of professional athletes begin to sit on the bench while the national anthem is performed? Imagine the disrespect for America that will follow if the NFL continues to allow this.  >:(

Take Action

Urge the NFL to respect 36 U.S. Code 301 and fine each player that refuses to stand during the national anthem.