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Discussion Boards => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Sawman214 on September 27, 2016, 11:19:15 am
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It mind boggles me when people say they don't care about more taxes. Why would you vote to have less of their own money? Do you not trust yourself more than a politician to spend it? :confused1:
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Remember Taxes pays for debt. What do you want to do.
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It mind boggles me when people say they don't care about more taxes. Why would you vote to have less of their own money? Do you not trust yourself more than a politician to spend it? :confused1:
Reminds me of that video at one of Hillary's campaign stops where she said, "We'll raise taxes on the middle class!," and the idiots in the audience cheered her, LOL. Ill informed much?
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I think that Americans have been desensitized to the words "raise taxes" by every lying, thieving corrupt politician out there, and, they are all liars, thieves and criminals. Does it really matter what they say? If they say that they won't raise taxes they are liars. The majority bow to corporate America and are on corporate payrolls in one manner or another. Kind of humorous to see people saying 'Hillary this' and 'Donald that' as the words 'Romney this...Obama that' and 'Bush this...Clinton that' still ring in our ears. Seriously? They all sell their souls to the highest bidder. I am amazed at anyone who openly commits to supporting either of these candidates and then spend time belittling anyone that would dare think of voting with an open mind...as much as an open mind can exist with propaganda spread by biased news media.
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I really dont know why. both running for president cant stand them. But its a 2 party system.
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The big question is those that really believe that the president can get ALL or really ANY of this stuff done without the 535 members of congress. They can run their mouth a lot but actually getting anything done within the gridlock is a fantasy. While not a fan of Hillary, she is certainly less toxic for our relationships with the rest of the world.
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The big question is those that really believe that the president can get ALL or really ANY of this stuff done without the 535 members of congress. They can run their mouth a lot but actually getting anything done within the gridlock is a fantasy. While not a fan of Hillary, she is certainly less toxic for our relationships with the rest of the world.
How is she less toxic for our relationships with the rest of the world? Russia is the biggest superpower after the US (except maybe for China), and she is openly antagonistic to them. I wouldn't put it past her to start a war with Russia, which would definitely lead to WWIII, and I can guarantee the US would lose this time around.
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NO I don't thing that they know how mto spend my money than I do .We can't trust Hillary Clinton any further than I could throw her.aand you shuden trust her with her giveing the wright time of day even if she looking at the colck
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They do need to raise taxes for all the wealthy getting the tax breaks. It's a problem with the people making the least money pay the most in taxes and millionaires and billionaires often don't pay anything.
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No, I don't trust others to spend my hard earned money; but what are the choices? Everyone does it. Can you tell me one politician that won't? I would gladly give them my vote!
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I do like Hilary's temperament and personality better but my conscience will not allow me to vote for her. Trump it is.. I would much rather have a sexist president than a criminal that will raise my taxes and take my guns away ahahaha
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Remember Taxes pays for debt. What do you want to do.
Balance the budget. Cut Spending.
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It's a problem with the people making the least money pay the most in taxes and millionaires and billionaires often don't pay anything.
That's not even remotely true. The top 1% pays nearly half of all taxes.
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Sometimes I think a lot of you all hear what you want to hear, do you all want a President who pays NO taxes, and make you pay taxes...ha that real smart. No way will I vote for someone who thinks it smart he got away without paying any taxes and he is a millionaire and the rest of us or middle class or lower, now you tell me who is smarter
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I think it's called "The Stockholm Syndrome" .
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I can't figure that out either.
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Sometimes I think a lot of you all hear what you want to hear, do you all want a President who pays NO taxes, and make you pay taxes...ha that real smart. No way will I vote for someone who thinks it smart he got away without paying any taxes and he is a millionaire and the rest of us or middle class or lower, now you tell me who is smarter
Absolutely. I hope he didn't pay any taxes. The tax code is designed to modify ones actions by incentivizing the actions the government wants in the form of a tax break. That's why there are credits for going to college, making energy efficient improvements to your home, health insurance, investing in your retirement, etc. Theres plenty out there for businesses as well. These are things the government wants you to do.
I can't imagine picking a candidate based on the amount taxes they paid.
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Taxes should be a certain percentage same for everyone
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Taxes should be a certain percentage same for everyone
Yes, I agree. The way it is now, the more we earn, the higher percentage they take, so we can never get ahead. With a straight percentage for everyone, with no loophole, there would actually be an incentive to work harder and earn more money. And everyone, rich and poor, would be paying their fair share.
BTW, one of the comments above mentioned that Hillary admitted to wanting to raise the taxes on the middle class. I didn't realize that she actually told the truth for once in her life? (twice actually, because she also admits she wants to take our guns, which is another true statement).
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I would vote for them if they put the taxes to good use.
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Taxes and more taxes...anywhere you go!
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It's a problem with the people making the least money pay the most in taxes and millionaires and billionaires often don't pay anything.
That's not even remotely true. The top 1% pays nearly half of all taxes.
That's true only in theory. There are plenty of loopholes to avoid payment when you reach a certain bracket or they simply choose not to pay like certain candidates.
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It's a problem with the people making the least money pay the most in taxes and millionaires and billionaires often don't pay anything.
That's not even remotely true. The top 1% pays nearly half of all taxes.
That's true only in theory. There are plenty of loopholes to avoid payment when you reach a certain bracket or they simply choose not to pay like certain candidates.
It's not theory. It comes straight from IRS data.
The notion of "loopholes" only exists it in fairy tale land. Most credits/deductions phase out in the middle/lower tax brackets and the "rich" don't get to take advantage of them. They are also subject to additional taxes such as the net investment tax, AMT, and an additional medicare tax.
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Hey bigpar31 once again you are WRONG, there are 2 others running for president, an independent pot smoker and some obscure lady, neither one has a chance but can affect the outcome of the big 2, duh! :highfive: 8)
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Exactly and that coming from a liar who gets paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to give a lame speech and tries to tell us that Trump is out for himself, wake up Hil LIAR y you are not fooling anyone, but those blind idiots that think you will HELP them have better lives, yeah sure ::) ::) ::) 8)
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I sometime think that not fair too. But look at the other way. They take our taxes and pay for something else in need, so I don't even know what to do.
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It's a problem with the people making the least money pay the most in taxes and millionaires and billionaires often don't pay anything.
That's not even remotely true. The top 1% pays nearly half of all taxes.
That's true only in theory. There are plenty of loopholes to avoid payment when you reach a certain bracket or they simply choose not to pay like certain candidates.
It's not theory. It comes straight from IRS data.
The notion of "loopholes" only exists it in fairy tale land. Most credits/deductions phase out in the middle/lower tax brackets and the "rich" don't get to take advantage of them. They are also subject to additional taxes such as the net investment tax, AMT, and an additional medicare tax.
I guess individuals setting up multiple charities and corporations to filter money through is all part of the fairy tale. All the donations for tax write offs is just part of it too I guess. The wealthier are suppose to be paying additional taxes but that doesn't always happen.
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It sucks to even think about raising taxes
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I don't mind taxes being raised cuz that's how our economy works, the way those taxes are being use is what counts like being taxed on how much your income status is, not taxing the middle class & poor while the gushing, throw up rich get the tax breaks!
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It's a problem with the people making the least money pay the most in taxes and millionaires and billionaires often don't pay anything.
That's not even remotely true. The top 1% pays nearly half of all taxes.
That's true only in theory. There are plenty of loopholes to avoid payment when you reach a certain bracket or they simply choose not to pay like certain candidates.
It's not theory. It comes straight from IRS data.
The notion of "loopholes" only exists it in fairy tale land. Most credits/deductions phase out in the middle/lower tax brackets and the "rich" don't get to take advantage of them. They are also subject to additional taxes such as the net investment tax, AMT, and an additional medicare tax.
I guess individuals setting up multiple charities and corporations to filter money through is all part of the fairy tale. All the donations for tax write offs is just part of it too I guess. The wealthier are suppose to be paying additional taxes but that doesn't always happen.
You realize corporations pay taxes, right? The corporation pays 35% in tax and then the shareholder pays an additional 23.8% (20% DIV Rate + 3.8% NIT rate) when it is "filtered" as dividends. That's an effective rate of 50.47%. That's not a loophole. The whole argument that the rich use corporations to avoid taxes is one of the biggest myths out there.
As for donations, making a $1,000 donation to save $396 isn’t a loophole. It’s a net loss of $604.
None of those things allow one to avoid paying tax.
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I would never vote for any of these crooks running.
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this election is crazy!!!!!!!!!!1 ???
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LOL - Only a brain-dead LIBERAL will!!!
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Help! I Still Don't Know Who I Should Vote For This Coming Elections? If anyone feel the same please let me know what you guys think b'c Independent.
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Look, I don't find anything wrong with paying taxes. I care about what the revenue is used for.
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Because they think that having $15/hours they can have a better life. BS.
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Look, I don't find anything wrong with paying taxes. I care about what the revenue is used for.
I happen to completely agree with you. In a nation that has all the services and entitlements that the United States has, it has to be paid for. We all benefit in some way at some time. You don't get something for nothing.
What needs to happen is to re-write the tax code and assure that it is more efficient, balanced, and fair. Then we need to have officials who truly understand the will of the people as far as where the money goes. Sometimes some of us will benefit; sometimes some of us won't.
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I'm willing to pay my fair share of taxes, but I expect everyone else to do the same. And I don't like to have my taxes dollars squandered on the ridiculous.
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Honestly I really don't know who to vote for, taxes or no. Pretty much feel we're screwed with either party this time.