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Before I never used to believe in demons but reading and hearing about what some people do to other people is just demonic and sick. You can claim someone can be mentally ill but I do believe some are really possessed by demons.
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Well if you support the bible then you know they exist.Didnt Jesus expel them from people?Doesnt the influence of the occult exist in music,movies and violence in the world?
Go look at a picture of Adam Lanza before he blew away 26 people a few yrs ago at the school in Ct.The look on his face is a look of evil possession.
I dont rule out someone could be mentally disturbed too from imperfection or maybe a lifelong disease taking drugs.But the bible is clear Satan and rebellious angels <demons>exist and have influenced this world.
You can also read in Genesis right before the flood how angels then were able to materialize human bodies and have sex with all the good-looking woman and they created the Nephilim...giants that were wicked in that day.
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i believe some people are just born to be mean and cruel --its a sad sad thing
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Mental illness, drug induced or just plain horrible human being. Their are some man made drugs like bath salts that can make a person can crazy and do sick things to themselves & others.
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A lot of evil in our world today
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it can be both
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Well if you support the bible then you know they exist.Didnt Jesus expel them from people?Doesnt the influence of the occult exist in music,movies and violence in the world?
Go look at a picture of Adam Lanza before he blew away 26 people a few yrs ago at the school in Ct.The look on his face is a look of evil possession.
I dont rule out someone could be mentally disturbed too from imperfection or maybe a lifelong disease taking drugs.But the bible is clear Satan and rebellious angels <demons>exist and have influenced this world.
You can also read in Genesis right before the flood how angels then were able to materialize human bodies and have sex with all the good-looking woman and they created the Nephilim...giants that were wicked in that day.
Again, file it under "Told you before" but Demons did not have sex with women. They do not have bodies of flesh and do not have the wherewithal to procreate.
But, yes, demons are quite real. Something you see regularly in the bible is the demon possessed killing themselves.(Judas, the herd of pigs, the possessed boy's father told Jesus the demon tries to kill his son by fire & water,etc) So when I see nutjobs end up killing themselves after their atrocity has been committed, I tend to think Demon possession may have been behind it.
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You shall know them by their actions...results.
Crazy things they do to themselves and terrible things to others.
Inferno exists in this world...and some choose that lifestyle.
Unless they repent and change their ways and actions they are doomed.
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Well if you support the bible then you know they exist.Didnt Jesus expel them from people?Doesnt the influence of the occult exist in music,movies and violence in the world?
Go look at a picture of Adam Lanza before he blew away 26 people a few yrs ago at the school in Ct.The look on his face is a look of evil possession.
I dont rule out someone could be mentally disturbed too from imperfection or maybe a lifelong disease taking drugs.But the bible is clear Satan and rebellious angels <demons>exist and have influenced this world.
You can also read in Genesis right before the flood how angels then were able to materialize human bodies and have sex with all the good-looking woman and they created the Nephilim...giants that were wicked in that day.
Again, file it under "Told you before" but Demons did not have sex with women. They do not have bodies of flesh and do not have the wherewithal to procreate.
But, yes, demons are quite real. Something you see regularly in the bible is the demon possessed killing themselves.(Judas, the herd of pigs, the possessed boy's father told Jesus the demon tries to kill his son by fire & water,etc) So when I see nutjobs end up killing themselves after their atrocity has been committed, I tend to think Demon possession may have been behind it.
New International Version
And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling--these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.Jude 1:6
File it under...why did i even bother to tell you.
Nephilim
The Nephilim /ˈnɛfɨˌlɪm/ נָפִיל, Naphíl or Naphil) were offspring of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" before the Deluge according to Genesis 6:4; the name is also used in reference to giants who inhabited Canaan at the time of the Israelite conquest of Canaan according to Numbers 13:33.
<yawn>its pretty cut and dry what happened here.But you keep holding fast to your Babylonish beliefs and dont heed the warning given by God to NOT share in her sins.
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/babylon-the-great/
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Well if you support the bible then you know they exist.Didnt Jesus expel them from people?Doesnt the influence of the occult exist in music,movies and violence in the world?
Go look at a picture of Adam Lanza before he blew away 26 people a few yrs ago at the school in Ct.The look on his face is a look of evil possession.
I dont rule out someone could be mentally disturbed too from imperfection or maybe a lifelong disease taking drugs.But the bible is clear Satan and rebellious angels <demons>exist and have influenced this world.
You can also read in Genesis right before the flood how angels then were able to materialize human bodies and have sex with all the good-looking woman and they created the Nephilim...giants that were wicked in that day.
Again, file it under "Told you before" but Demons did not have sex with women. They do not have bodies of flesh and do not have the wherewithal to procreate.
But, yes, demons are quite real. Something you see regularly in the bible is the demon possessed killing themselves.(Judas, the herd of pigs, the possessed boy's father told Jesus the demon tries to kill his son by fire & water,etc) So when I see nutjobs end up killing themselves after their atrocity has been committed, I tend to think Demon possession may have been behind it.
New International Version
And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling--these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.Jude 1:6
File it under...why did i even bother to tell you.
Nephilim
The Nephilim /ˈnɛfɨˌlɪm/ נָפִיל, Naphíl or Naphil) were offspring of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" before the Deluge according to Genesis 6:4; the name is also used in reference to giants who inhabited Canaan at the time of the Israelite conquest of Canaan according to Numbers 13:33.
<yawn>its pretty cut and dry what happened here.But you keep holding fast to your Babylonish beliefs and dont heed the warning given by God to NOT share in her sins.
https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/babylon-the-great/
And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling--these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.Jude 1:6
Nowhere in this verse does it -even REMOTELY state- that demons took the prerogative of human flesh. You are reading into the text something that clearly wasn't stated. Some angels sided with Satan and for this, God punished them. Saying it's cut & dry is an understatement. to get any other interpretation from that verse would take a herculean effort.
Knowing what we do, "Sons of God" meant the Godly line of Seth, whose offspring were obedient to God, unlike Cain, whose decedents are the "daughters of men". Of course, I too was taught this fairy tale that demons could have sex with women & produce giants, but I actually went beyond what was spoon fed to me by unreputable sources and did a little something called STUDY. I urge you again not to take what the Watchtower tells you as fact. Use some common sense and stop being led by the nose by a known cult.
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When your Babylonish religeon fulfuills Math 24:14 give me a heads up.
And not to mention Psalms 83:18....try using it sometime.God likes to know we know HIS name.
Or obeys Jesus command to commemorate Passover instead of your other babylonish teaching NOT found in bible.
Need i go on?
Actually i will.Your theory JJ on angels NOT taking on fleshly bodies is again proven wrong using bible.Abraham entertained angels that were described as men and Sodomites even inquired to who they were for unnatural purpose.That shows right there that obedient angels <nevertheless>angels were able in that time to take on fleshly bodies.Go read Genesis 19:5 and see the Sodomites wanting to have sex with angels bearing resemblance of men to Lot.
Of course im sure you will come up with some silly Babylonish explanation...LOL!
Even tho just about everyone here could care less of this biblical teaching,you in your own way JJ help the witness come to life.If i can impersonate a Geicho commericial,even a caveman can understand this.I dont think the Sodomites saw spirits...they saw spirits taking on fleshly bodies.
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Mental illness is already not taken seriously enough without people trying to say their possessed with demons. Mental illness is real and craziness like this will further prevent it being taken seriously enough for more widespread diagnosis , treatment and awareness
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demons or evil definitely exists in the world today
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Mental illness is already not taken seriously enough without people trying to say their possessed with demons. Mental illness is real and craziness like this will further prevent it being taken seriously enough for more widespread diagnosis , treatment and awareness
Do u need a reminder?
New International Version
We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.1John 5:19
As i said in an earlier post i am aware man himself thru imperfection and bad habits can contribute as well.But my perception here is many under estimate the power of Satan and rebellious angels.The ol seeing is believing line eh?Well if u support bible then u know Satan and his hordes are real.You cant just believe part of it.Friendship with this world is enmity with God says the bible.With good reason.Cos HE has nothing to do with the garbage that goes on,but yet many blame him too.
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Mental illness is already not taken seriously enough without people trying to say their possessed with demons. Mental illness is real and craziness like this will further prevent it being taken seriously enough for more widespread diagnosis , treatment and awareness
Do u need a reminder?
New International Version
We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.1John 5:19
As i said in an earlier post i am aware man himself thru imperfection and bad habits can contribute as well.But my perception here is many under estimate the power of Satan and rebellious angels.The ol seeing is believing line eh?Well if u support bible then u know Satan and his hordes are real.You cant just believe part of it.Friendship with this world is enmity with God says the bible.With good reason.Cos HE has nothing to do with the garbage that goes on,but yet many blame him too.
Maybe you need a reminder of realities of life . People claiming that everything is because of demons is what has caused people to be killed because of exorcisms being preformed on people that had very real physical and mental conditions that should have been treated by medical professionals and not religion
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I knew a lady who had a little boy, she said he was evil from the time he was born. I saw many things this kid did and yes i believe he was or had a demon. This child loved to see even bugs suffer, I mean sick stuff as in take a fly and pull off it's wings, then watch. Yet times he was nice to be around, creepy feeling even as a little guy.
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Mental illness is already not taken seriously enough without people trying to say their possessed with demons. Mental illness is real and craziness like this will further prevent it being taken seriously enough for more widespread diagnosis , treatment and awareness
Do u need a reminder?
New International Version
We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.1John 5:19
As i said in an earlier post i am aware man himself thru imperfection and bad habits can contribute as well.But my perception here is many under estimate the power of Satan and rebellious angels.The ol seeing is believing line eh?Well if u support bible then u know Satan and his hordes are real.You cant just believe part of it.Friendship with this world is enmity with God says the bible.With good reason.Cos HE has nothing to do with the garbage that goes on,but yet many blame him too.
Maybe you need a reminder of realities of life . People claiming that everything is because of demons is what has caused people to be killed because of exorcisms being preformed on people that had very real physical and mental conditions that should have been treated by medical professionals and not religion
Listen just say if you support bible or not.The scripture is there for reference.All the violence that goes on in this world isnt just manmade!
Rev 12:12 New International Version
Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short."
Let me also say the bible DOESNT support religeons that perform these rituals.They are detestable to GOD!!They originate with Satan,Gods enemy.So you wanna blame the religeons for this learn that Satan is behind that too.The scripture reads,THE WHOLE world is under his influence!Including false religeon!
You know the parable Jesus gave Re trees that give good fruit and others that give rotten fruit?What he meant was examining others the same way.You will know them by their fruit.One EX is how God has made it manifest with all the sexual scandals that have come to light!!When i was a child this was unheard of!!NOW its outta control.You see ads in the newspapers lawyers looking for cases if you were abuse by a priest or bishop!!
Thats REALITY!!
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I believe demon possession happens, and I believe that mental illness could be reason for someone's actions also. The problem is that many times it's not easy to decipher what the individual's issue is.
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Mental illness is already not taken seriously enough without people trying to say their possessed with demons. Mental illness is real and craziness like this will further prevent it being taken seriously enough for more widespread diagnosis , treatment and awareness
Do u need a reminder?
New International Version
We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.1John 5:19
As i said in an earlier post i am aware man himself thru imperfection and bad habits can contribute as well.But my perception here is many under estimate the power of Satan and rebellious angels.The ol seeing is believing line eh?Well if u support bible then u know Satan and his hordes are real.You cant just believe part of it.Friendship with this world is enmity with God says the bible.With good reason.Cos HE has nothing to do with the garbage that goes on,but yet many blame him too.
Maybe you need a reminder of realities of life . People claiming that everything is because of demons is what has caused people to be killed because of exorcisms being preformed on people that had very real physical and mental conditions that should have been treated by medical professionals and not religion
Listen just say if you support bible or not.The scripture is there for reference.All the violence that goes on in this world isnt just manmade!
Rev 12:12 New International Version
Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short."
Let me also say the bible DOESNT support religeons that perform these rituals.They are detestable to GOD!!They originate with Satan,Gods enemy.So you wanna blame the religeons for this learn that Satan is behind that too.The scripture reads,THE WHOLE world is under his influence!Including false religeon!
You know the parable Jesus gave Re trees that give good fruit and others that give rotten fruit?What he meant was examining others the same way.You will know them by their fruit.One EX is how God has made it manifest with all the sexual scandals that have come to light!!When i was a child this was unheard of!!NOW its outta control.You see ads in the newspapers lawyers looking for cases if you were abuse by a priest or bishop!!
Thats REALITY!!
This may be a foreign concept to you but you can be a Christian and still believe in science and facts.
Sexual abuse isn't something new. It's been happening since the beginning of time but it just wasn't reported and if it was it wasn't punished.
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What do science and facts have to with this?LOL!And how are they a foreign concept to me?Is that a dig that i use the bible to illustrate meanings?
I know what xtian means.1 that follows Jesus teachings.We find out about Jesus thru the bible.Do you have another pipeline to him?Cos it seems you wanna dispute what i say from the bible.
Please dont downplay the sexual scandals in the church.I was brought up a catholic and can remember as far back as 50 yrs ago it may have been going on but NO one knew of it and something like gays being married in church was NOT even thought of.
The world has gone mad since 1914 when WW1 began.The generation Jesus spoke of when he answered his disciples when this satanic system would end started in that yr to those that first witnessed it.
Mathew the 24th chaptor if you can pull yourself away from you lab!
And sadly,yes i understand how science helped Satan influence mankind in creating the A-bomb and other weapons to kill 1000s.
Its EZ to see why Jesus told Pontious Pilate his kingdom was NO part of this world and he taught us to pray,"Let your kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven.FACT!!!!!
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Mental illness definitely exist...demons, well, that depends on your faith. I think people with no mental illness (people with sound minds) will be able to resist demonic influences. It's when you're mentally ill that you lose your defense and cannot fight against bad influences.
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Mental illness definitely exist...demons, well, that depends on your faith. I think people with no mental illness (people with sound minds) will be able to resist demonic influences. It's when you're mentally ill that you lose your defense and cannot fight against bad influences.
Adam and Eve were created perfect.There was NO flaw in Gods creation.Yet selfish desires caused them to disobey.While many factors can also contribute to mental impairment,many have been deceived such as A&E!!We all need to be on guard from the devils machinations.And still put up with our imperfection that makes us err too.
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there is a devil
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What do science and facts have to with this?LOL!And how are they a foreign concept to me?Is that a dig that i use the bible to illustrate meanings?
I know what xtian means.1 that follows Jesus teachings.We find out about Jesus thru the bible.Do you have another pipeline to him?Cos it seems you wanna dispute what i say from the bible.
Please dont downplay the sexual scandals in the church.I was brought up a catholic and can remember as far back as 50 yrs ago it may have been going on but NO one knew of it and something like gays being married in church was NOT even thought of.
The world has gone mad since 1914 when WW1 began.The generation Jesus spoke of when he answered his disciples when this satanic system would end started in that yr to those that first witnessed it.
Mathew the 24th chaptor if you can pull yourself away from you lab!
And sadly,yes i understand how science helped Satan influence mankind in creating the A-bomb and other weapons to kill 1000s.
Its EZ to see why Jesus told Pontious Pilate his kingdom was NO part of this world and he taught us to pray,"Let your kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven.FACT!!!!!
It has to do with mental illness is real and you can't blame everything on the devil and demons. You can actually see some mental illnesses show up in brain scans and can be compared to "normal" brains
You're downplaying things not me. Sexual abuse has been going on whether people were openly talking about it or not. You want to believe that it's something current but its not. People just didn't believe that these men in power were capable of molesting and/or raping children or women in their congregations. People knew it was going on but it was either just accepted or too taboo to speak openly about it
50 years ago a lot of things wouldn't have been thought of that are commonplace now. 50 years ago there would be no internet to educate yourself. 50 years ago many churches wouldn't marry interracial couples. 50 years ago I would've had to go to segregated everything .
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I truly believe there are demons walking this earth everyday. I believe they try to tempt us to do evil in a lot of different ways. I often pray for God to remove the demons from my mind and soul when I'm really troubled or upset. Works for me.
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Ladavia...i dont disagree that mental disease exists!!I said in many of my posts that thru imperfection and bad habits one can do harm to themselves.
And im not looking to argue with you but it seems to me you are down-playing the devil.You call yourself a xtian and i have used the bible to point out how Jesus certainly speaks of his existence and what he is capable of doing.
And yes i know sexual situations have gone on forever.Sodom and Gomorahh happened right and that was long ago.I just wanted to point out from the yr 1914 how much more this world has gone mad and the scripture in Rev:12 points it out as well as Jesus in Math 24.
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Mental illness is already not taken seriously enough without people trying to say their possessed with demons. Mental illness is real and craziness like this will further prevent it being taken seriously enough for more widespread diagnosis , treatment and awareness
Do u need a reminder?
New International Version
We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.1John 5:19
As i said in an earlier post i am aware man himself thru imperfection and bad habits can contribute as well.But my perception here is many under estimate the power of Satan and rebellious angels.The ol seeing is believing line eh?Well if u support bible then u know Satan and his hordes are real.You cant just believe part of it.Friendship with this world is enmity with God says the bible.With good reason.Cos HE has nothing to do with the garbage that goes on,but yet many blame him too.
Maybe you need a reminder of realities of life . People claiming that everything is because of demons is what has caused people to be killed because of exorcisms being preformed on people that had very real physical and mental conditions that should have been treated by medical professionals and not religion
Listen just say if you support bible or not.The scripture is there for reference.All the violence that goes on in this world isnt just manmade!
Rev 12:12 New International Version
Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short."
Let me also say the bible DOESNT support religeons that perform these rituals.They are detestable to GOD!!They originate with Satan,Gods enemy.So you wanna blame the religeons for this learn that Satan is behind that too.The scripture reads,THE WHOLE world is under his influence!Including false religeon!
You know the parable Jesus gave Re trees that give good fruit and others that give rotten fruit?What he meant was examining others the same way.You will know them by their fruit.One EX is how God has made it manifest with all the sexual scandals that have come to light!!When i was a child this was unheard of!!NOW its outta control.You see ads in the newspapers lawyers looking for cases if you were abuse by a priest or bishop!!
Thats REALITY!!
He sounds like a psychopath.
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I quoted the wrong posts.
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I knew a lady who had a little boy, she said he was evil from the time he was born. I saw many things this kid did and yes i believe he was or had a demon. This child loved to see even bugs suffer, I mean sick stuff as in take a fly and pull off it's wings, then watch. Yet times he was nice to be around, creepy feeling even as a little guy.
He sounds like a psychopath.
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I believe in both.
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A lot of times people want to hide behind mental illness, but some people are just evil and there's no two ways about it.