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Title: Healthcare for All?
Post by: Mizzkizz7 on April 13, 2018, 07:44:46 pm
Who believes that everyone in the United States should be entitled to healthcare? We are always getting taxed number one. Most still have pot holes in the street in which the city refuse to fill, we have tolls. It's hard trying to make ends meet working even a full time job and trying to pay for healthcare too. You make too much money you can't get help, you don't make enough or nothing you receive aide. But then you have the President trying to put regulations on welfare and work requirements making even the mentally and physically disabled go back to work. I just don't understand. There are people out here that have worked in their past and sincerely need their disability. Everyone isn't trying to beat the system. Canada has free healthcare, and maybe another country. :angry7:
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: hitch0403 on April 13, 2018, 09:00:21 pm
Who believes that everyone in the United States should be entitled to healthcare? We are always getting taxed number one. Most still have pot holes in the street in which the city refuse to fill, we have tolls. It's hard trying to make ends meet working even a full time job and trying to pay for healthcare too. You make too much money you can't get help, you don't make enough or nothing you receive aide. But then you have the President trying to put regulations on welfare and work requirements making even the mentally and physically disabled go back to work. I just don't understand. There are people out here that have worked in their past and sincerely need their disability. Everyone isn't trying to beat the system. Canada has free healthcare, and maybe another country. :angry7:
Jer 10:23  LORD, I know that people’s lives are not their own; it is not for them to direct their steps.
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: ancmetro on April 13, 2018, 11:58:38 pm

    I believe in Universal Health Care for all!
    Rich-poor, healthy-sick.
    Unfortunately, not every city has these programs
    for all. Always go cities where medical services are
    available.
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: ccandpam on April 14, 2018, 04:45:32 am
I think that we all should be entitled to healthcare. Other Countries are entitled. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: mardukblood2009 on April 14, 2018, 05:01:24 am
It should be a universal thing. The reason why it is not in this country is because nobody really cares about one another and that really is the bottom line.
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: darkxtsuna on April 14, 2018, 05:33:01 am
I wish it was like that, too bad it will most likely never happen.
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: bretay on April 14, 2018, 05:35:53 am
i think everyone deserves healthcare..i like that a few countries have free health care...and we have lots of pot holes that need filling in...lol
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: mgint on April 14, 2018, 06:24:08 am
it sounds great but like all programs someone has to pay for it. he government is already 20 trillion in debt and keep spending when will we wake up and get spending under control.
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: michele2042 on April 14, 2018, 11:22:21 am
Along with most others who have responded I believe everyone is entitled to receive healthcare, if not free, then for minimal cost.  So many folks, myself included don't go to the doctor because of outrageous costs.   Pharmaceutical companies and hospitals charge insane amounts for services.   It's no wonder most folks in our country are in less than good health.   
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: countrygirl12 on April 14, 2018, 11:33:16 am
Who believes that everyone in the United States should be entitled to healthcare? We are always getting taxed number one. Most still have pot holes in the street in which the city refuse to fill, we have tolls. It's hard trying to make ends meet working even a full time job and trying to pay for healthcare too. You make too much money you can't get help, you don't make enough or nothing you receive aide. But then you have the President trying to put regulations on welfare and work requirements making even the mentally and physically disabled go back to work. I just don't understand. There are people out here that have worked in their past and sincerely need their disability. Everyone isn't trying to beat the system. Canada has free healthcare, and maybe another country. :angry7:

"Entitled" to health care? NO.  Healthcare should be affordable.  You are not entitled to anything.  And Canada doesn't have free healthcare.  They do pay for it.  But everyone has the same thing.  And you may die waiting on a bed.  It is also prioritized.  Someone has a heart attack they will of course be moved in ahead of you.  There was a younger woman who needed surgery and with universal health care of course yes she gets the surgery.  But she died waiting on a bed.  She never got the surgery.

I am 100% for the work for welfare.  Nobody owes you anything.  You want something get off your butt and WORK for it.  Nobody deserves to have anything just handed to them for free.  We have too many leeches in this country.  I am surrounded by them.  Very few of my neighbors work.  Most of them are drawing a check off the government. 

Work or starve!

And no, I do not have health insurance.  I cannot afford it.  So I do what I can to stay healthy and I do run to the doctor when I stub my toe.
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: countrygirl12 on April 14, 2018, 11:36:28 am
It should be a universal thing. The reason why it is not in this country is because nobody really cares about one another and that really is the bottom line.

lol.  No the bottom line is there are enough people with brains in their heads to know that this is not a good thing.

Universal health care is NOT free.   Somebody has to pay for it.   I know a woman who lives in a country where they have the "free universal healthcare" and they take HALF her paycheck to pay for the "free" healthcare.  The more you make the more you contribute to the free healthcare.  Deadbeats of course continue to get everything for free.

I am over the people who won't work.  Maybe they need to start euthanizing the people who refuse to work.  They are not needed.
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: countrygirl12 on April 14, 2018, 11:41:30 am
Along with most others who have responded I believe everyone is entitled to receive healthcare, if not free, then for minimal cost.  So many folks, myself included don't go to the doctor because of outrageous costs.   Pharmaceutical companies and hospitals charge insane amounts for services.   It's no wonder most folks in our country are in less than good health.   

That is the problem with this country.  You are not entitled to anything.  Yes, everyone should be able to get healthcare.  And at an affordable cost.  It should not cost several hundred thousand dollars for a surgery needed to keep you alive.

If healthcare is free then the doctors are hospital staff are going to have to work for free.  The money won't just fall from the sky to pay their salary.  If they are being paid $10 to $12 dollars an hour they are not going to go to school to get the education needed to be a doctor.  DO you really want to go to a doctor that went to school to become a doctor in the middle east?  That's all you will have is a bunch of foreigners as doctors.  That is about all we have now.

And the insurance companies are a huge part of why medications and doctor visits are so insanely high.
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: NRAJOE on April 14, 2018, 11:45:17 am
Should be healthcare for all through taxes like Canada...not that mess Obama and the Dummycrats thought up... :silly: :P
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: Mizzkizz7 on April 14, 2018, 06:18:15 pm
Who believes that everyone in the United States should be entitled to healthcare? We are always getting taxed number one. Most still have pot holes in the street in which the city refuse to fill, we have tolls. It's hard trying to make ends meet working even a full time job and trying to pay for healthcare too. You make too much money you can't get help, you don't make enough or nothing you receive aide. But then you have the President trying to put regulations on welfare and work requirements making even the mentally and physically disabled go back to work. I just don't understand. There are people out here that have worked in their past and sincerely need their disability. Everyone isn't trying to beat the system. Canada has free healthcare, and maybe another country. :angry7:

"Entitled" to health care? NO.  Healthcare should be affordable.  You are not entitled to anything.  And Canada doesn't have free healthcare.  They do pay for it.  But everyone has the same thing.  And you may die waiting on a bed.  It is also prioritized.  Someone has a heart attack they will of course be moved in ahead of you.  There was a younger woman who needed surgery and with universal health care of course yes she gets the surgery.  But she died waiting on a bed.  She never got the surgery.

I am 100% for the work for welfare.  Nobody owes you anything.  You want something get off your butt and WORK for it.  Nobody deserves to have anything just handed to them for free.  We have too many leeches in this country.  I am surrounded by them.  Very few of my neighbors work.  Most of them are drawing a check off the government. 

Work or starve!

And no, I do not have health insurance.  I cannot afford it.  So I do what I can to stay healthy and I do run to the doctor when I stub my toe.   


Affordable healthcare is what I should have said. Your neighbors who you say don't work maybe have a situation that you know nothing about, and therefore you are judging. Disability is real and I don't feel they should be forced to work especially if they have worked most of their lives and is drawing a check that they earned.   :neutral:
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: paints on April 14, 2018, 07:32:39 pm
Health care for all should be a given.  Nobody should die because they can't afford the medication they need. 
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: Mizzkizz7 on April 14, 2018, 08:03:40 pm
Health care for all should be a given.  Nobody should die because they can't afford the medication they need.
   Thank you.  That's all I was trying to say. ;)
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: snuggleycutejc on April 14, 2018, 08:55:30 pm
I do think healthcare should be for us, USA but free.
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: nmbrown863 on April 14, 2018, 09:08:29 pm
I wish we could all have free or low cost healthcare. It will probably never happen though.
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: freedavis on April 14, 2018, 09:21:40 pm
I think all should have healthcare and think at Lowe cost. Obama care was the start and should finish
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: dreamyxo on April 14, 2018, 10:21:06 pm
Yes we should.  Taxes are wasted everyday.  Cut the fat and corruption.  Big pharma wanted to keep people sick and addicted because it's more money in their pockets.
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: hawkeye3210 on April 15, 2018, 09:09:19 am
No one is "entitled" to anothers service. There's also no such thing as "free" healthcare.
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: monnee on April 15, 2018, 03:09:48 pm
Yes, every American who pays taxes should have healthcare.
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: Chelseaagrace on April 15, 2018, 03:53:15 pm
I’m happy with my healthcare at the moment
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: aflyingmonkey on April 15, 2018, 05:16:15 pm

If you're disabled, you wouldn't be forced to work.... only the abled-bodied who can work who don't would get the work or volunteer requirement. This has been in operation in several states long before President Trump.
If you're disabled, you already get free healthcare, right?

I don't see a problem with everyone pitching in, even if all it is is doing some sort of volunteering for the community. 

Almost half of the population of the USA don't pay taxes.   In California, 5600 taxpayers pay for over 80% of all the taxes.... that does not sound fair at all... especially when the population of California is 39 million people.

I don't see a problem with healthcare, most jobs provide it, if you're poor it's free, if you're working poor... under $1300 a month for a single it's free.... at least it is that way in California.  Don't like healthcare in your state, change states.  Don't like the healthcare in the USA change countries to one you like.

No one in America is dying on the street due to lack of healthcare.... most clinics have sliding scale pay systems if the government doesn't already provide it.   Look up free clinics on the net, there is a web site that lists the directory, it's massive.
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: Tresbn00 on April 19, 2018, 08:28:49 am
And I want to live in a world where Unicorns eat rainbows and poop butterflies. Nothing in life is free, there is a cost for everything, someone has to pay for healthcare. I think that you should not have to pay more for health care if you work and earn more money. That is like charging someone, who is larger, more money for clothes because more material is needed. There has to be a happy median but this, like Unicorns eating rainbows, will not occur in a white, male, higher income, two party (both political and social), system. The people with the power to make things happen already have their benefits paid for and do not care about anything other than self service in the form of donations from corporate America-regardless of their party affiliation. Insurance companies will pay very little for prescriptions if anything at all, for life threatening maladies. For example,I have a deep veinous thrombosis (leg clot form a bad foot injury that does not go away with coumadin/warfarin) and Xarelto samples worked for three weeks till I ran out. A prescription for Xarelto was $650 and cost prohibitive. The odds of the clot traveling to my heart are high. No magical sliding scale. I am looking at dropping my $800/month health insurance and paying for ailments as they come up.
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: Sawman214 on April 19, 2018, 09:02:21 am
whenever government mandates something, it will be bad.   just stop trying to get everyone else to pay for you,  and stop bringing more people in that don't contribute.   stop giving money to terrorist countries,  This is also why Trump is in the top 5 presidents of all time
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: ghunter on April 19, 2018, 09:51:58 am
Yes, Yes I do think it should be.  Why not?  It can be done.
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: alice44 on April 19, 2018, 10:05:10 am
I agree that healthcare should be available to everyone.  But there are a lot of people who currently take advantage of the disability system.  Maybe they wouldn't if healthcare was available to everyone. ???
Title: Re: Healthcare for All?
Post by: demaina on April 19, 2018, 11:21:41 am
There should be in my opinion.  The fact that there are places like Saint Judes that help families pay for cancer treatments for their kids shows that it's possible to cover medical procedures from outside sources.  I don't know how much would be needed, but hopefully it can be figured out.