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Discussion Boards => Off-Topic => Topic started by: potluck6 on December 13, 2018, 03:33:17 pm
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Trump wants his wall .has threatened to shut the government down. Democrats are standing firm. there is a immigrant problem but not as bad as he makes out. Some are just fleeing a terrible situation with their kids . In hopes of a better life.
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now
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He is an idiot plain and simple in my blood. Let him foot the bill for the wall with his own money if he really thinks we need one
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The wall completion was estimated to cost twelve billion dollars by a presidential hopeful during the two thousand and sixteen presidential campaign. In February the Department of Homeland Security put the cost at twenty one point six billion dollars which is considered to be an under estimate of true cost due to inadequate details on the physical structure, omission of details related to the legal fees required to seize the land on which the wall would sit. The presidential hopeful boasted that the cost of the wall would be paid by Mexico which does not appear to be the case. Even if transmittals from the states back to Mexico were taxed the large companies (WesternUnion/MoneyGram for example) would be damaged with the cost having to be imposed on all people sending/receiving money (average consumer is at a sub poverty level). If Mexico does not pay for the wall the average citizen would have to pay one hundred and twenty dollars at the lowest estimate but more realistic higher estimates would pt the average bill at five hundred and forty dollars per US citizen.The proposed wall plans, regardless of cost, are aimed at being thirty feet above ground and six feet under. Water tables along the walls proposed path are as far down as seventy five feet. Tunnels have been found as deep as seventy feet. Current plans would be ineffective against tunnels. The wall currently covers seven hundred miles of the nearly two thousand mile long border and was started approximately ten years ago.
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No its a waste of money.
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Truly a waste of money along with other ways the money gets wasted and can be put to better use.
<sigh>
Funny how the answer is right there before our eyes and many dont see it.
Let your kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven.
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I don't really think is need it. Let me clarify to you all, I am a US citizen of an Hispanic mom and American Dad, was born in the US and grew up in Latin America after my parents divorce. I don't approve of the way some of these immigrants get here Illegally, but the problem is not only Latin America, there are people from Africa and Asia that also come in Illegal on boats and no wall is going to stop them from coming to the US illegally.
The wall is not the problem, I do not think the us the US Citizens have to spend all that $$ on something that is not going to work.
Also, as a Contractor for the Government, if the Government shuts down I WILL NOT BE paid or reimburse for the day I loose.
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Absolutely not.
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I believe we do. There are 23 million illegal immigrants that are drawing aid in our country. Preventing more illegals from coming would save spending that kind of money on aid that belongs to American citizens.
I think that people that come to America should do it the legal way. They are breaking the law and we need to protect our country from those who mean us harm and from diseases that they are bringing here.
I probably am in the minority, but I think Trump is doing a great job and I totally support his concern and desire for a border wall.
As to the shutting down of the government, I don't feel that's much of a problem to most people. My apologies to lywb2168.
Please remember not to bash my opinions. :'( Just state your case, as I did.
I assume the person who posted this question disagrees since he called it a "trump wall."
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A border wall is necessary. People who jump our border are not going to be good citizens, but just looking for free assistance.
If they are sincere about wanting to live here, and contribute they can prove it by obeying our law right off the bat, and come in the legal port of entry
:rose:
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the only wall we need is a wall that will protect us from TRUMP
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build that that wall along with machine guns.. :highfive:
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We need better border security, but not a multi billion dollar wall.
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build that that wall along with machine guns.. :highfive:
Is this what u meant when u said in another topic we seem to be missing the real meaning to Xmas?
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I believe we do. There are 23 million illegal immigrants that are drawing aid in our country. Preventing more illegals from coming would save spending that kind of money on aid that belongs to American citizens.
I think that people that come to America should do it the legal way. They are breaking the law and we need to protect our country from those who mean us harm and from diseases that they are bringing here.
I probably am in the minority, but I think Trump is doing a great job and I totally support his concern and desire for a border wall.
As to the shutting down of the government, I don't feel that's much of a problem to most people. My apologies to lywb2168.
Please remember not to bash my opinions. :'( Just state your case, as I did.
I assume the person who posted this question disagrees since he called it a "trump wall."
For your sake i hope when u get to heaven its segregated
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A border wall is necessary. People who jump our border are not going to be good citizens, but just looking for free assistance.
If they are sincere about wanting to live here, and contribute they can prove it by obeying our law right off the bat, and come in the legal port of entry
:rose:
I agree 100% and i think people who don' t should be double taxed to support people who are breaking the law, for a better life ??? starting out teaching your kids its ok to break the law, humbug apply and do the right thing.
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LOL, I don't think we need a Trump! Too funny that I can watch a Trump blimp flying all over the place. I take that as ridicule not honor
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I believe we need a better system not a wall Trump is an idiot has been from day one and it’s just getting worse I do not fault people for trying to better their lives it’s not my place to judge them I do not know their story or what they were going through and why they are coming here I do know that the USA is the best country in the world why wouldn’t people want to come here at any lengths? I think building a wall would be a waste of money they already dig tunnels under the ground to get here so what’s the wall gonna do?
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"Do this, or else!" sounds the the words of a dictator, not an elected public servant.
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::) If not a wall, just send more troops.
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I would agree there is an immigration problem certainly but I feel like a physical wall is not the best answer. We could probably do more with laws that make sense & are actually enforced than with blocks and bars.
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build that that wall along with machine guns.. :highfive:
Is this what u meant when u said in another topic we seem to be missing the real meaning to Xmas?
Whats illegal people coming into the country got to do with Christmas (not Xmas by the way) ::)
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build that that wall along with machine guns.. :highfive:
Is this what u meant when u said in another topic we seem to be missing the real meaning to Xmas?
Whats illegal people coming into the country got to do with Christmas (not Xmas by the way) ::)
<sigh>I have to explain that?Duh you did say machine gun <i think>Unless you were referencing it as a toy then i guess it goes along with 12/25......any prob with dates as numbers?