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A prison inmate on death row was asked his last wish before he would be electrocuted in the chair,he asked for a pen and paper, then wrote ;
Dear mom, if the the law was fair today you would be here seated next to me waiting to be electrocuted in the electric chair, but since the law is blind, I have been convicted for the crimes we committed together.
Mom remember how it started, do you remember when I was 3 years old when I stole my brothers sweets? You didn’t correct me, remember very well when I was five the day I stole my neighbors toys and hid it at home, you said nothing, mum remember when I was 12 when I hid my cousins ball in the garage, when he had come to play with us at home and you said you didn’t see it, yet you did.
Do you remember the day I was expelled from school at 15 years? Dad wanted to punish me but you refused and that very day you had a bitter argument with dad because you were defending me. You said I was still young, you said the teachers where wrong to say that I was not attending class.
You defended me, you said I was right yet you knew I was wrong. Mum remember very well, you saw me steal our neighbors bicycle when I was 17, but you didn’t report I sold it, but, you were silent mum? You loved me so much, yes, you loved me but you didn’t correct me, instead you spoiled me. That is how it started and it graduated slowly until today when I will be executed for bank robbery and murder.
I was very young, I just needed your guidance mom. By the time you will be reading this I will be gone.
Yours truly, your loving son.
To all parents out there the Bible says, Proverbs 13:24
Those who spare the rod of discipline hate their children.Those who love their children care enough to discipline them...
love your children don’t forget to discipline them..
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Hmmm. Can look at this in a lot of ways. Yes, parents need to teach their kids that things are wrong and need to realize their brats are not angels.
At the same time this person has robbed a bank and killed someone and blames his mother instead of accepting responsibility for his actions. Not to mention unless he done this when he was 18 his mother is likely already dead because he would sit on death row for 35-40 years.
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Hmmm. Can look at this in a lot of ways. Yes, parents need to teach their kids that things are wrong and need to realize their brats are not angels.
At the same time this person has robbed a bank and killed someone and blames his mother instead of accepting responsibility for his actions. Not to mention unless he done this when he was 18 his mother is likely already dead because he would sit on death row for 35-40 years.
Interesting perspective....powerful statement nonetheless...gives me a lot to think about...
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Hmmm. Can look at this in a lot of ways. Yes, parents need to teach their kids that things are wrong and need to realize their brats are not angels.
At the same time this person has robbed a bank and killed someone and blames his mother instead of accepting responsibility for his actions. Not to mention unless he done this when he was 18 his mother is likely already dead because he would sit on death row for 35-40 years.
I think what he is just trying to say is, a child needs to learn right from wrong in their younger years , and that is starting from Mom & Dad....I would blame the parents. That's why some kids these days are the way they are, some parents would rather be doing their own thing than dealing with their kids, I see it often
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Its such a shame because these days kids are not supposed to be spanked. Kids need a swat on the butt when their attention is needed. It scares me that so many kids are not disciplined when they misbehave.
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Im sorry that inmate was a very selfish person.God gave us all freedom of choice.Yes disciplining is important when a child is growing up.But a parent having patience is not a crime either.
God was very patient and forgiving in Moses day against Pharoah.Sadly for him and his army they learned the hardway like this inmate did.
I have heard children blame their parents for them being born.Think about how selfish that attitude is.
Again using the bible if God destroyed A&E right after they sinned there would be NOOOOOOOOOOO human race.A concept that makes those that think when you die you go to heaven a farce.God warned them of consequence if they ate from a certain tree and they werent deprived of anything.Selfish thought made A&E sin and die.Just like the inmates desire to committ crimes and now he has to die.
We have a conscience instilled in us.Too many many harden it with a selfish desire that you think about and then it goes to the heart where u committ the sin......then its too late.
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Nothing can take the place of a good upbringing. I'm thankful I had Christian parents that raised me. I was taught right from wrong beginning at a very young age. My parents gave out the appropriate discipline but they also had an over-abundant amount of love and support for me as I grew up. I raised my daughter the same way. She turned out wonderful. We are now instilling those values on my young grandson.
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Yes a proper upbringing is important. A parent or parents should teach their child right from wrong and punish appropriately . However when they reach adulthood they make their own decisions and should be able to decipher between right and wrong.
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An excellent post. Thanks for taking the time to write it. I hope every parent with children reads it! :angel11: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Hmmm. Can look at this in a lot of ways. Yes, parents need to teach their kids that things are wrong and need to realize their brats are not angels.
At the same time this person has robbed a bank and killed someone and blames his mother instead of accepting responsibility for his actions. Not to mention unless he done this when he was 18 his mother is likely already dead because he would sit on death row for 35-40 years.
I think what he is just trying to say is, a child needs to learn right from wrong in their younger years , and that is starting from Mom & Dad....I would blame the parents. That's why some kids these days are the way they are, some parents would rather be doing their own thing than dealing with their kids, I see it often
I totally agree with that. Kids are brats because parents raise them to believe the world revolves around them and no one can tell them no. And if they do something the parents are either not MY child or excuse the behavior. But at some point no matter what your parents let you get away with you have to grow up and accept responsibility. And even if you are raised to be a brat you have to know that MURDER is wrong. :(
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It’s a hard world we live in children do need to be disciplined and there is a difference between discipline your children and abusing them
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His mom didnt rob the bank or committ murder.
Each one is tried out by their own desire,when the desire becomes fertile it becomes a sin.The penalty of sin is death in this case.And yet prideful to the end he was that he couldnt accept the full responsibilty of his actions.
This type of person will not gain Gods kingdom im sure after God sees what his heart really is like,and in this case NO remorse till the end that he had to blame his mom for what he was.
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Yes you need to discipline your kids, but people also have to take responsibility for their actions as well!
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Discipline is many forms not just spanking as many of you have stated.
Clearly thought process for punishments is very small for some.
My kids are teenagers and I have never wanted to hurt them physically as a form of punishment.
Think of it logically as I have always taught my kids- No one is ever allowed to physically hurt you in any way shape or form.
This is taught in kindergarten very simple and easy to understand!
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Don't have any children yet. I think my girlfriend wants some one day but we're just mid twenties.
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I is very important that you discipline your children and let them know that there are limits and you shouldn't go beyond that limit.
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My 3yr old grandson is hard to deal with sometimes. I askedcmynson if he spanks him,he said no. He said they have but didn't do any good. I remember getting spanked by my dad. Think because of it I didn like him to much anymore. He didn't do it often. Don't remember spanking my own kids.
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Gauging the success of my children: Daughter received one 'B' (online gym class) and all A's, all the way through her graduation with a full ride at one of the top three engineering schools in the country (magna *bleep* laude), High School Valedictorian, Tennis captain, Soccer captain, Deca president, School Council President, marching band Abassador, first chair in the State orchestra/band with an invite to play for the city symphony, first place(with her team) for new substance development at the Komstanz International Materials conference, Fluent at a post graduate level in the Chinese language and currently designing missile defense systems for the government; Son maintained a three point eight cumulative at a prestigious private school, multiple D1 and D2 college scholarship offers for his excellence in Lacrosse, currently sitting with straight A's, also fluent in Chinese, on track to finish a double major in international business finance and economics, invited to serve a second internship with the largest bank in the world; both kids contribute a percentage of their income and time to charity...I would say that Love, patience, devotion, guidance, direction, attention, fair treatment seemed to have worked fine for my family much more than physical discipline. Sparing discipline was not a form of hatred (wherever that misquote came from). They have been taught to feel compassion and empathy for those that are less fortunate. I am quite certain that they would communicate a need for money rather than feeling compelled to rob a bank and feel, strongly, that (due to a deep respect for all things living-instilled by me) the taking of a life would only happen if there life was at stake. I can say that, without a doubt, blame would never be thrown on me/my wife if they were to encounter shortcomings.
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Tresbn00- It is NOT misquote. It is in the Bible. You do what works for you. But there is nothing wrong with spanking kids. Too many parents are all "oh not my kid" and that is the ones who end up like the one in this made up story. BTW, it is not real.
Point is you can be all "not my kid" and they can get away with stuff as a child but the crimes will get more and more and eventually they will either end up shot when they break in to someone's home, or they commit a heinous crime like this one and end up in jail for the rest of their life or on death row. And it is their fault but the parents do play a part in why their kid turned out to be a pathetic monster. And most likely the parent will still defend their actions.
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While a parent bringing their child up the right way is supported by God there are examples where freedom of choice takes over too.
Moses......the boy who was raised in luxury in Egypt by the daughter of Pharaoh—yet never forgot that he was an Israelite?He had wisdom.The beginning of wisdom is the fear of God.
He could have chose the worldly way of the Egyptians,instead he loved God and obeyed him and became a great prophet and wrote many of the books of the bible.
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Thanks for the feedback. I tend to look for exact quotes and cited resources.I have checked three resources but none are able to identify the word "hatred" in the bible. What would appear to be the most relevant source, christianbiblereference.org, cites the use of the word "hate" seventy one times in the old testament/sixteen times in the new testament of the King James Version; eighty times in the old testament/thirteen times in the new testament of the New American Standard Version-1995 ed; sixty three times in the old testament/seventeen times in the new testament of the New International version and seventy six times in the old testament, eighteen times in the new testament of the New Revised Standard Version of the bible. I stick by my copy of the King James version. Perhaps I am missing a version that contains the word "Hatred"?
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Thanks for the feedback. I tend to look for exact quotes and cited resources.I have checked three resources but none are able to identify the word "hatred" in the bible. What would appear to be the most relevant source, christianbiblereference.org, cites the use of the word "hate" seventy one times in the old testament/sixteen times in the new testament of the King James Version; eighty times in the old testament/thirteen times in the new testament of the New American Standard Version-1995 ed; sixty three times in the old testament/seventeen times in the new testament of the New International version and seventy six times in the old testament, eighteen times in the new testament of the New Revised Standard Version of the bible. I stick by my copy of the King James version. Perhaps I am missing a version that contains the word "Hatred"?
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001912
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The Bible is not a answer for all things. It has been rewritten to accommodate people who think the Bible is their daily go to read. Seriously people commonsense is needed. You can raise your child to what you think is best but yet they will be their own person no matter what. You do not control their friends or associates. So what ever influence in their life can not all be boiled down to parents or some bible. My son has not been raised by the bible and guess what he is 15 yrs old and doing well. Coder and a game programmer. He does not believe in the bible and I have not forced it on him. When I was young I went to church often but it was not to so I one day only follow a bible. It was something my dad had me do because that is what people did in those days. I do not force any bible on my child and never will. He is doing just fine without it. In hinds thought he could teach some of you a few things on the world. Why do you think children now days actually think climate change is a real issue or guns do actually kill by the persons who are in control of them. They read and understand the world and the bible did not help with that. Do not get me wrong I believe in God. I just think that now days God is not in the bible like its suppose to be. He is rewritten by maniacs. Mainly by sinners.
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The Bible is not a answer for all things. It has been rewritten to accommodate people who think the Bible is their daily go to read. Seriously people commonsense is needed. You can raise your child to what you think is best but yet they will be their own person no matter what. You do not control their friends or associates. So what ever influence in their life can not all be boiled down to parents or some bible. My son has not been raised by the bible and guess what he is 15 yrs old and doing well. Coder and a game programmer. He does not believe in the bible and I have not forced it on him. When I was young I went to church often but it was not to so I one day only follow a bible. It was something my dad had me do because that is what people did in those days. I do not force any bible on my child and never will. He is doing just fine without it. In hinds thought he could teach some of you a few things on the world. Why do you think children now days actually think climate change is a real issue or guns do actually kill by the persons who are in control of them. They read and understand the world and the bible did not help with that. Do not get me wrong I believe in God. I just think that now days God is not in the bible like its suppose to be. He is rewritten by maniacs. Mainly by sinners.
If you were taught the truth about something and then taught others lies what would be the result?Maniacs wrote the bible?So Moses was a maniac?Or the apostle Peter was a maniac?Or the apostle John was a maniac?
Listen for whatever your reasons are <and i know what they are>it might be a good idea to know what you are talking about RE the bible.The fact that this world is a shambles and mankind grows old and dies,the bible reveals why.
The influence of Jesus being here over 2000 yrs ago backs up he was the son of God and represented his father to come into the world and reveal truth as well as ransom his life so mankind would have a chance to live forever and have Gods original purpose fulfilled and put Satans lies to rest for all time and vindicate Gods name.
The fact that there are many different religeons that DONT teach bible truth.....why should you blame the TRUE God?The bible even reveals that this would happen and gives the name Babylon the great to Satanic teachings.
All scripture is inspired by Jehovah and beneficial for teaching and reproving and setting matters straight.
Who is your god?Does he have a name?Even Satan is referred to as a god.Given the chance to be a god of this system now <and it shows>God is just a title.How do u serve and worship and love a nameless god?You dont wanna be referred to as nameless do u?
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Im sorry that inmate was a very selfish person.God gave us all freedom of choice.Yes disciplining is important when a child is growing up.But a parent having patience is not a crime either.
God was very patient and forgiving in Moses day against Pharoah.Sadly for him and his army they learned the hardway like this inmate did.
I have heard children blame their parents for them being born.Think about how selfish that attitude is.
Again using the bible if God destroyed A&E right after they sinned there would be NOOOOOOOOOOO human race.A concept that makes those that think when you die you go to heaven a farce.God warned them of consequence if they ate from a certain tree and they werent deprived of anything.Selfish thought made A&E sin and die.Just like the inmates desire to committ crimes and now he has to die.
We have a conscience instilled in us.Too many many harden it with a selfish desire that you think about and then it goes to the heart where u committ the sin......then its too late.
I agree. Unfortunately, my granddaughter has that attitude that she never does anything wrong. That will not serve her well through life.
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Im sorry that inmate was a very selfish person.God gave us all freedom of choice.Yes disciplining is important when a child is growing up.But a parent having patience is not a crime either.
God was very patient and forgiving in Moses day against Pharoah.Sadly for him and his army they learned the hardway like this inmate did.
I have heard children blame their parents for them being born.Think about how selfish that attitude is.
Again using the bible if God destroyed A&E right after they sinned there would be NOOOOOOOOOOO human race.A concept that makes those that think when you die you go to heaven a farce.God warned them of consequence if they ate from a certain tree and they werent deprived of anything.Selfish thought made A&E sin and die.Just like the inmates desire to committ crimes and now he has to die.
We have a conscience instilled in us.Too many many harden it with a selfish desire that you think about and then it goes to the heart where u committ the sin......then its too late.
I agree. Unfortunately, my granddaughter has that attitude that she never does anything wrong. That will not serve her well through life.
Map you hope they grow out of it or even learn the hardway........if its the latter at least they learn.You just hope the consequences isnt too serious before or if they do learn.
Sign of todays times how the youth would be thankless.
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The mom didn't do the kid any favors!
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Parents are to raise the kids and not think everything they do is cute or ok. Discipline is very important and can be done with love. His mom always took up for him instead of correcting him. A lot of parents want to be friends instead of parents.
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i've seen this one on fb a lot...but for him to blame his mother..i dont agree with that..yes,she maybe should have disciplined him more..but once you are an adult..all those choices are yours..you can't blame someone else for them..my point of view..
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I agree that upbring dictates mindset but this letter seems mamipulative. He obviously knew the error of his ways and committed those errors anyway.
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Sometimes kids with crappy parents turn out well because adults have to be accountable for their actions.