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What are your thoughts on changing the names of Aunt Jemina, Uncle Ben, and Eskimo Pie?
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What are your thoughts on changing the names of Aunt Jemina, Uncle Ben, and Eskimo Pie?
Changing names will not change history. We still have an original copy of the children's book, "Little Black Sambo" and I am hanging on to it just in case when this nonsense is all over, it may be worth a small fortune.
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I guess I'm kind of wondering how the names Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben stayed around as long as they did, as they were direct reference to slavery times when older slaves were called Aunt and Uncle by the master's children. But I was wondering a little bit about the Eskimo Pie one, until I looked up the term Eskimo and found out that it would used in a derogatory manner to reference the Inuit and Yupik peoples during a time of colonization in the lands they inhabited. It's interesting to go back into history and see what names brands that people have taken for granted as innocent, cute or folksy that actually have a terrible origin or background. :peace: :heart:
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I guess I'm kind of wondering how the names Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben stayed around as long as they did, as they were direct reference to slavery times when older slaves were called Aunt and Uncle by the master's children. But I was wondering a little bit about the Eskimo Pie one, until I looked up the term Eskimo and found out that it would used in a derogatory manner to reference the Inuit and Yupik peoples during a time of colonization in the lands they inhabited. It's interesting to go back into history and see what names brands that people have taken for granted as innocent, cute or folksy that actually have a terrible origin or background. :peace: :heart:
I never knew about Eskimo Pie..but I feel the other two names should have been changed.
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As long as the pancakes and rice still prepare and taste the same and remain available in my grocery store, I don't give two sh!ts about what they call it or whose fictional face is on the label. Changing the names and faces isn't going to change the reality OR the perception of current race relations, but if some people think it is going to help - I say let them have at it. I fear we will eventually come to the realization that we cannot erase every single instance of inequality or prejudice in our society merely by changing the labels and products, statues, flags, city and school names, etc. that some people (in many cases quite legitimately) find offensive.
Changing labels, is literally just that ... changing a label. Changing hearts (on BOTH sides of the issues) is a much bigger mountain to climb. By picking and choosing what names/labels/products are offensive, we are creating a slippery slope on the climbing side of that mountain.
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Why some people are so racist?
Why they do not learn to get along with others?
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I hope they change the name of the Washington Redskins next.
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I hope they change the name of the Washington Redskins next.
There has been discussion around that for years...maybe this is the catalyst? I doubt it, but we'll see...
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Why all the changes now? I mean they have been around for many many years without and issue, why now?
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What are your thoughts on changing the names of Aunt Jemina, Uncle Ben, and Eskimo Pie?
Eskimo Pie? They are changing that as well? I think it is foolish.
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Land O Lakes already removed the Native American girl from their logo. If the name isn't explicitly offensive, like Uncle Ben's, I don't see why they couldn't keep the name and just remove the face from the logo.
And who even knows if Mrs. Butterworth is black or white or something else? She's no color, or potentially any color depending on the contents inside. Does Mrs. Butterworth make other flavors?
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Name change isn't gong to do anything. There's an article about the family of the woman who portrayed Aunt Jemima that is against the move to change brand.
https://www.wistv.com/2020/06/20/family-woman-who-portrayed-aunt-jemima-opposes-move-change-brand/
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I think it is ridiculous. Aunt Jemima's great grandson said is was an insult to her legacy. People can't erase history and it is getting to a insane point.
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i dont agree..i think people are going crazy..what is changing the name gonna do..those names are there for a reason...it is a symbol..that's all..nothing racist..at least i never seen it a racist..people are taking things too far..
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Aunt Jemima was the first female black millionaire. First black woman owned major/national business, I agree it is an insult to change the name. That seems like very good history to celebrate.
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I heard they're changing the Cream Of Wheat guy too, what was wrong with him?
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Since changing on certain brands won't change history.However , it might start healing the country getting people to start talking about the issues and starting to resolve them instead of fighting or violence towards people. :rainbow: :rose: :peace: :wave:
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The point may be to change the perception of race relations in the future not the present but that just may be deception for the masses as the real goal maybe to garner as much control in opposition to the oppressive system.
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Name change isn't gong to do anything. There's an article about the family of the woman who portrayed Aunt Jemima that is against the move to change brand.
https://www.wistv.com/2020/06/20/family-woman-who-portrayed-aunt-jemima-opposes-move-change-brand/
I read somewhere that when they change that the "family" will also lose the royalty payments. Bet they did not see that one coming.
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If people cant find the products in the store cos of the name changes and their sales go down,they will regret doing it maybe.
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And who even knows if Mrs. Butterworth is black or white or something else? She's no color, or potentially any color depending on the contents inside. Does Mrs. Butterworth make other flavors?
When we were younger (and when Mrs. Butterworth's came in glass bottles) we used to rinse and save the bottles and then paint them as art/decoration projects. It wasn't a race thing, but I always just naturally painted my bottles as an old white grandma figure. In my mind she was the grandma cartoon character from Looney Toons who had Tweety Bird and Sylvester as pets.
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Who opened this can of worms??? Stuff that is so natural to us from our younger years is being exploited to make us feel that we are being "racial" when we purchase our favorite brands!! Your Bad!
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Cream of Wheat hot cereal, said it is initiating “an immediate review” of its packaging. A smiling black chef holding a bowl of cereal has appeared on Cream of Wheat packaging and in ads since at least 1918, according to the company's web site. (AP Photo/Donald King)
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Mrs. Butterworth's is an American brand of syrups and pancake mixes owned by ConAgra Foods. The syrups came in distinctive bottles shaped in the form of a matronly woman, Mrs. Butterworth. The syrup was introduced in 1961. In 1999, the original glass bottles began to be replaced with plastic bottles.
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Mars Inc. says it's also reviewing its Uncle Ben's rice brand.
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Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.
The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”
read this article here:
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/cream-wheat-mrs-butterworth-confront-race-packaging-71329161
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:cat:
Who opened this can of worms??? Stuff that is so natural to us from our younger years is being exploited to make us feel that we are being "racial" when we purchase our favorite brands!! Your Bad!
See Pic:
Cream of Wheat hot cereal, said it is initiating “an immediate review” of its packaging. A smiling black chef holding a bowl of cereal has appeared on Cream of Wheat packaging and in ads since at least 1918, according to the company's web site. (AP Photo/Donald King)
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Mrs. Butterworth's is an American brand of syrups and pancake mixes owned by ConAgra Foods. The syrups came in distinctive bottles shaped in the form of a matronly woman, Mrs. Butterworth. The syrup was introduced in 1961. In 1999, the original glass bottles began to be replaced with plastic bottles.
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Mars Inc. says it's also reviewing its Uncle Ben's rice brand.
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Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.
The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”
read this article here:
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/cream-wheat-mrs-butterworth-confront-race-packaging-71329161
It does not make ME feel racial. I don't know how this all got started. People are stupid and can make anything and everything into something racial if they try. None of these products were meant as anything racial. People are just snowflakes. It does seem like every day some new company is coming up saying they need to change their name because some idiot is offended by it. ::)
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And who even knows if Mrs. Butterworth is black or white or something else? She's no color, or potentially any color depending on the contents inside. Does Mrs. Butterworth make other flavors?
When we were younger (and when Mrs. Butterworth's came in glass bottles) we used to rinse and save the bottles and then paint them as art/decoration projects. It wasn't a race thing, but I always just naturally painted my bottles as an old white grandma figure. In my mind she was the grandma cartoon character from Looney Toons who had Tweety Bird and Sylvester as pets.
Never thought about painting them. But that is a good idea and would be fun. The bottles were more roundish then as well. I could see the bottle being painted to look like that little grandma. haha
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And who even knows if Mrs. Butterworth is black or white or something else? She's no color, or potentially any color depending on the contents inside. Does Mrs. Butterworth make other flavors?
When we were younger (and when Mrs. Butterworth's came in glass bottles) we used to rinse and save the bottles and then paint them as art/decoration projects. It wasn't a race thing, but I always just naturally painted my bottles as an old white grandma figure. In my mind she was the grandma cartoon character from Looney Toons who had Tweety Bird and Sylvester as pets.
Oh yeah! I can totally see Granny in Mrs. Butterworth. :)
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Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.
The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”
I'm white, so I have no right to say whether these things are offensive or not to people of color. BUT... Darkie toothpaste!? That's pretty bad! :(
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I don't know about Eskimo Pie, but the others....
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Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.
The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”
I'm white, so I have no right to say whether these things are offensive or not to people of color. BUT... Darkie toothpaste!? That's pretty bad! :(
Not really. It is not sold in the US. You can't get all butthurt because a word in another language can be made to mean something different in your language. I honestly would not have thought about a toothpaste being called "Darkie". It would never have entered my mind it could or would mean anything. Just a name. Guess black people gonna be peed off about people naming their dog "Blackie" now. One of the most popular names for dogs. ::)
Did you know that in come countries doing the "thumbs up" which people do all the time in the US is considered offensive? So are we suppose to say you can't do that any more because somebody somewhere might be offended up it? Guess what pretty much everything you do will offend somebody. If you want to know what it means google it.
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Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.
The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”
I'm white, so I have no right to say whether these things are offensive or not to people of color. BUT... Darkie toothpaste!? That's pretty bad! :(
Not really. It is not sold in the US. You can't get all butthurt because a word in another language can be made to mean something different in your language. I honestly would not have thought about a toothpaste being called "Darkie". It would never have entered my mind it could or would mean anything. Just a name. Guess black people gonna be peed off about people naming their dog "Blackie" now. One of the most popular names for dogs. ::)
Did you know that in come countries doing the "thumbs up" which people do all the time in the US is considered offensive? So are we suppose to say you can't do that any more because somebody somewhere might be offended up it? Guess what pretty much everything you do will offend somebody. If you want to know what it means google it.
What difference does it make where it's sold? It's not a bad "translation", and it doesn't make it less offensive. The original logo is literally a black man and it's called Darkie. There's no ambiguity there and completely different than a thumbs up with different meanings.
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Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.
The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”
I'm white, so I have no right to say whether these things are offensive or not to people of color. BUT... Darkie toothpaste!? That's pretty bad! :(
Not really. It is not sold in the US. You can't get all butthurt because a word in another language can be made to mean something different in your language. I honestly would not have thought about a toothpaste being called "Darkie". It would never have entered my mind it could or would mean anything. Just a name. Guess black people gonna be peed off about people naming their dog "Blackie" now. One of the most popular names for dogs. ::)
Did you know that in come countries doing the "thumbs up" which people do all the time in the US is considered offensive? So are we suppose to say you can't do that any more because somebody somewhere might be offended up it? Guess what pretty much everything you do will offend somebody. If you want to know what it means google it.
What difference does it make where it's sold? It's not a bad "translation", and it doesn't make it less offensive. The original logo is literally a black man and it's called Darkie. There's no ambiguity there and completely different than a thumbs up with different meanings.
It makes a lot of difference where it is sold. Did you even read what I said? Words mean different things in different languages. No it is not completely different. The thumbs up is an example of something else that in one country means something good and in another supposedly means something bad. Just like in spanish the word "negro" means the color black. That is THEIR WORD for the color black. You can be offended all you want and you can choose to be offended by everything coming and going. I chose not to. Makes life a whole lot happier. lol
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What are your thoughts on changing the names of Aunt Jemina, Uncle Ben, and Eskimo Pie?
Don't really care. I used to like Aunt Jemima syrup but it's nothing but corn syrup which is so bad for your health. I do see the destroying of our history & culture under false pretenses & hyperbolic nonsense as nothing more than moving the world to a more progressive one world order, which has been the plan since Bush the elder was in office. They are playing the long game, like China & their 100 year plan. Nothing is by happenstance & I don't think there is anything to be done to stop it.
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Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.
The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”
I'm white, so I have no right to say whether these things are offensive or not to people of color. BUT... Darkie toothpaste!? That's pretty bad! :(
Not really. It is not sold in the US. You can't get all butthurt because a word in another language can be made to mean something different in your language. I honestly would not have thought about a toothpaste being called "Darkie". It would never have entered my mind it could or would mean anything. Just a name. Guess black people gonna be peed off about people naming their dog "Blackie" now. One of the most popular names for dogs. ::)
Did you know that in come countries doing the "thumbs up" which people do all the time in the US is considered offensive? So are we suppose to say you can't do that any more because somebody somewhere might be offended up it? Guess what pretty much everything you do will offend somebody. If you want to know what it means google it.
What difference does it make where it's sold? It's not a bad "translation", and it doesn't make it less offensive. The original logo is literally a black man and it's called Darkie. There's no ambiguity there and completely different than a thumbs up with different meanings.
It makes a lot of difference where it is sold. Did you even read what I said? Words mean different things in different languages. No it is not completely different. The thumbs up is an example of something else that in one country means something good and in another supposedly means something bad. Just like in spanish the word "negro" means the color black. That is THEIR WORD for the color black. You can be offended all you want and you can choose to be offended by everything coming and going. I chose not to. Makes life a whole lot happier. lol
Yes, I read what you said. But "darkie" is not a different language. It's English, and it's generally considered derogatory, along with blackface, whether you agree or not. And even though they've changed the logo and the name to Darlie, the Chinese characters still translate to "black person toothpaste". It's easy to say you're not offended when it's not referring to you.
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Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.
The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”
I'm white, so I have no right to say whether these things are offensive or not to people of color. BUT... Darkie toothpaste!? That's pretty bad! :(
Not really. It is not sold in the US. You can't get all butthurt because a word in another language can be made to mean something different in your language. I honestly would not have thought about a toothpaste being called "Darkie". It would never have entered my mind it could or would mean anything. Just a name. Guess black people gonna be peed off about people naming their dog "Blackie" now. One of the most popular names for dogs. ::)
Did you know that in come countries doing the "thumbs up" which people do all the time in the US is considered offensive? So are we suppose to say you can't do that any more because somebody somewhere might be offended up it? Guess what pretty much everything you do will offend somebody. If you want to know what it means google it.
What difference does it make where it's sold? It's not a bad "translation", and it doesn't make it less offensive. The original logo is literally a black man and it's called Darkie. There's no ambiguity there and completely different than a thumbs up with different meanings.
It makes a lot of difference where it is sold. Did you even read what I said? Words mean different things in different languages. No it is not completely different. The thumbs up is an example of something else that in one country means something good and in another supposedly means something bad. Just like in spanish the word "negro" means the color black. That is THEIR WORD for the color black. You can be offended all you want and you can choose to be offended by everything coming and going. I chose not to. Makes life a whole lot happier. lol
Yes, I read what you said. But "darkie" is not a different language. It's English, and it's generally considered derogatory, along with blackface, whether you agree or not. And even though they've changed the logo and the name to Darlie, the Chinese characters still translate to "black person toothpaste". It's easy to say you're not offended when it's not referring to you.
lol No I am just not a snowflake. The first question I asked was "is this toothpaste not sold in another country and this name used in another country" where it would mean something totally different. That was the whole point. Just like I just said in mexico saying you have a negro car means you have a black car. That is THEIR word for black - the color black. But if you say that same thing in the US people will come unglued. It all depends on who you are "offending". If it is offensive to a Christian they are just suppose to get over it.
As far as "darkie" I have actually never heard that word before. Especially have not heard it used to describe a person.
If you research it there are a lot of words used in various countries that mean something totally different or even "offensive" ::) in other countries. I guess we are all going to have to not talk and not have names on products because no matter what it is somewhere somebody will be offended.
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What are your thoughts on changing the names of Aunt Jemina, Uncle Ben, and Eskimo Pie?
Don't really care. I used to like Aunt Jemima syrup but it's nothing but corn syrup which is so bad for your health. I do see the destroying of our history & culture under false pretenses & hyperbolic nonsense as nothing more than moving the world to a more progressive one world order, which has been the plan since Bush the elder was in office. They are playing the long game, like China & their 100 year plan. Nothing is by happenstance & I don't think there is anything to be done to stop it.
It is not corn syrup. Nothing at all like corn syrup. I use to really like corn syrup but not so much any more.
Nothing will ever go back to how it was in the world. You are right about the One World Order. But that doesn't happen til after the rapture. And no everything happening is Bible prophecy and nothing is going to stop it from happening EXACTLY LIKE the BIBLE SAYS not the way some interpret it to be. The Bible also says there will be false religions and false prophets. Matt 7:21 says "not everyone who says to me Lord Lord will enter in to the Kingdom of Heaven" and in Matt 7:23 God will tell them "I never knew you, depart from me - you workers of inequity".
I don't know that it started with Bush. More like the last president.
Anyway, I am sure the devil will show up and make fun of me and try to correct me. That is okay too. Romans 12:19 God says "vengeance is mine" and He will take care of it in HIS time. The Bible says what it does and it means what it says. Hell is real. You can deny that all you want but it won't keep you from spending eternity there. I don't argue with people. Matt 10:14 says if people don't want to listen to "dust off your feet and move on". We live in an area where the Truth is available. People can accept it or reject it. In today's world people are looking for a "feel good religion" where there is no punishment (contrary to the Word of God) and where you can do whatever you want with no consequences. That's not how it works.
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Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.
The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”
I'm white, so I have no right to say whether these things are offensive or not to people of color. BUT... Darkie toothpaste!? That's pretty bad! :(
Not really. It is not sold in the US. You can't get all butthurt because a word in another language can be made to mean something different in your language. I honestly would not have thought about a toothpaste being called "Darkie". It would never have entered my mind it could or would mean anything. Just a name. Guess black people gonna be peed off about people naming their dog "Blackie" now. One of the most popular names for dogs. ::)
Did you know that in come countries doing the "thumbs up" which people do all the time in the US is considered offensive? So are we suppose to say you can't do that any more because somebody somewhere might be offended up it? Guess what pretty much everything you do will offend somebody. If you want to know what it means google it.
What difference does it make where it's sold? It's not a bad "translation", and it doesn't make it less offensive. The original logo is literally a black man and it's called Darkie. There's no ambiguity there and completely different than a thumbs up with different meanings.
It makes a lot of difference where it is sold. Did you even read what I said? Words mean different things in different languages. No it is not completely different. The thumbs up is an example of something else that in one country means something good and in another supposedly means something bad. Just like in spanish the word "negro" means the color black. That is THEIR WORD for the color black. You can be offended all you want and you can choose to be offended by everything coming and going. I chose not to. Makes life a whole lot happier. lol
Yes, I read what you said. But "darkie" is not a different language. It's English, and it's generally considered derogatory, along with blackface, whether you agree or not. And even though they've changed the logo and the name to Darlie, the Chinese characters still translate to "black person toothpaste". It's easy to say you're not offended when it's not referring to you.
lol No I am just not a snowflake. The first question I asked was "is this toothpaste not sold in another country and this name used in another country" where it would mean something totally different. That was the whole point. Just like I just said in mexico saying you have a negro car means you have a black car. That is THEIR word for black - the color black. But if you say that same thing in the US people will come unglued. It all depends on who you are "offending". If it is offensive to a Christian they are just suppose to get over it.
As far as "darkie" I have actually never heard that word before. Especially have not heard it used to describe a person.
If you research it there are a lot of words used in various countries that mean something totally different or even "offensive" ::) in other countries. I guess we are all going to have to not talk and not have names on products because no matter what it is somewhere somebody will be offended.
It's unlikely that anyone is going to say "negro car", because that's mixing two languages. Yes, negro means black in Spanish. But using negro in reference to a car is NOT the same as using negro in reference to a person. They're not even pronounced the same.
Have you ever seen Gone with the Wind? They call their slaves "darkies". And when you call your product DARKIE and your logo is based on a white man in blackface, it's very obviously in poor taste, at best. How exactly would that mean anything else?
You don't have to be a snowflake, but you don't have to be insensitive and ignorant either.
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What are your thoughts on changing the names of Aunt Jemina, Uncle Ben, and Eskimo Pie?
Don't really care. I used to like Aunt Jemima syrup but it's nothing but corn syrup which is so bad for your health. I do see the destroying of our history & culture under false pretenses & hyperbolic nonsense as nothing more than moving the world to a more progressive one world order, which has been the plan since Bush the elder was in office. They are playing the long game, like China & their 100 year plan. Nothing is by happenstance & I don't think there is anything to be done to stop it.
It is not corn syrup. Nothing at all like corn syrup. I use to really like corn syrup but not so much any more.
Nothing will ever go back to how it was in the world. You are right about the One World Order. But that doesn't happen til after the rapture. And no everything happening is Bible prophecy and nothing is going to stop it from happening EXACTLY LIKE the BIBLE SAYS not the way some interpret it to be. The Bible also says there will be false religions and false prophets. Matt 7:21 says "not everyone who says to me Lord Lord will enter in to the Kingdom of Heaven" and in Matt 7:23 God will tell them "I never knew you, depart from me - you workers of inequity".
I don't know that it started with Bush. More like the last president.
Anyway, I am sure the devil will show up and make fun of me and try to correct me. That is okay too. Romans 12:19 God says "vengeance is mine" and He will take care of it in HIS time. The Bible says what it does and it means what it says. Hell is real. You can deny that all you want but it won't keep you from spending eternity there. I don't argue with people. Matt 10:14 says if people don't want to listen to "dust off your feet and move on". We live in an area where the Truth is available. People can accept it or reject it. In today's world people are looking for a "feel good religion" where there is no punishment (contrary to the Word of God) and where you can do whatever you want with no consequences. That's not how it works.
Rapture?LOL!!Trinity?Xmas? Easter?Hell?Man having immortal soul?Read Eccl 9:5..says dead know nothing.If they were in place of torment or heaven i would think they would know that.
Show us in bible where?LOL!!
U dont even state what sect U belong to even tho i know its Babylon the Great.....symbolic for false religeon like U belong to.
Still waiting to see if U know what Gods name is.Psalms 83:18 KJV might help
And i know UR sect isnt in 240 lands teaching & preaching Millions of hrs free....Try Math 24:14 what Jesus said RE kingdom being preached worldwide.Certainly NOT UR unknown sect.
U must get influenced by all these jerks on TV that say a lot and no one has a clue what they are talking about.
Changing subject for a sec RE Trump and Obama.Obama family man married once.Trump Divorced few Xs.Speaks volumes the charactor between them.Enuff said on that.Watch #s rise in Oklahoma on virus from the jerk spouting nonsense the other night infecting 1000s.
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What are your thoughts on changing the names of Aunt Jemina, Uncle Ben, and Eskimo Pie?
Don't really care. I used to like Aunt Jemima syrup but it's nothing but corn syrup which is so bad for your health. I do see the destroying of our history & culture under false pretenses & hyperbolic nonsense as nothing more than moving the world to a more progressive one world order, which has been the plan since Bush the elder was in office. They are playing the long game, like China & their 100 year plan. Nothing is by happenstance & I don't think there is anything to be done to stop it.
It is not corn syrup. Nothing at all like corn syrup.
Ingredients: Corn Syrup, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Water, Cellulose Gum, Caramel Color, Salt, Natural And Artificial Flavor, Sodium Benzoate And Sorbic Acid (Preservatives), Sodium Hexametaphosphate.
https://www.auntjemima.com/products/syrups/original
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I think that is the stupid thing that I have heard. All these idiots are making everything way worse. >:( >:( >:(
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I am bringing up this portion of the thread with another casualty of the damning of all historical fiction, statues, icons of different foodstuffs, etc. I have a copy of Gone With The Wind and I just watched it again. It's a great movie and the blacks represented in the movie are representative of people of that society who made the best of their lot. They are noble and honorable. You can't say that about the main character, Scarlett, or her desired lover, Ashley.
Prissy was silly but she was just a characterization of a silly person like they have in lots of movies. Rhett was a scalawag who was looked down upon by society but he still helped them with their cause. He had a great deal of character as did Belle Watling who was treated poorly by the elite. They all denigrated her as "poor white trash" as they did the other "white trash" such as Jonas Wilkerson and Amy Slatterly.
The people of Tara were rich landowners with slaves was not thought wrong at the time. That doesn't make it right but the movie is a depiction of a grand era for the South.
For the time which it represents, a time 'gone with the wind', it is quite very good in my opinion.
For the record, history is pretty important and should not be deleted from our collective memory because some people are offended by it. We can't learn from history if we don't even know what it was. We're doomed to repeat it in any case but at least we'd have a fighting chance to do differently if we knew what we did before and deemed it wrong.
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I am bringing up this portion of the thread with another casualty of the damning of all historical fiction, statues, icons of different foodstuffs, etc. I have a copy of Gone With The Wind and I just watched it again. It's a great movie and the blacks represented in the movie are representative of people of that society who made the best of their lot. They are noble and honorable. You can't say that about the main character, Scarlett, or her desired lover, Ashley.
Prissy was silly but she was just a characterization of a silly person like they have in lots of movies. Rhett was a scalawag who was looked down upon by society but he still helped them with their cause. He had a great deal of character as did Belle Watling who was treated poorly by the elite. They all denigrated her as "poor white trash" as they did the other "white trash" such as Jonas Wilkerson and Amy Slatterly.
The people of Tara were rich landowners with slaves was not thought wrong at the time. That doesn't make it right but the movie is a depiction of a grand era for the South.
For the time which it represents, a time 'gone with the wind', it is quite very good in my opinion.
For the record, history is pretty important and should not be deleted from our collective memory because some people are offended by it. We can't learn from history if we don't even know what it was. We're doomed to repeat it in any case but at least we'd have a fighting chance to do differently if we knew what we did before and deemed it wrong.
Precisely why God wrote the bible in ways.The history of certain situations how he protected and saved his people and that HE will continue to do so.
Examples to strenghen our faith as we read them.And how he punished those that disobeyed even when he gave them ample warnings.That is going on today,a warning how he will deal with Satan and a wicked human society and what we should do.
Jesus said he that endures to the end will be saved and all that call on the Gods name will also.
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I think it is crazy and I do not see anything bad about it.
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Colgate-Palmolive Co. said Thursday it is working with its Chinese partner, Hawley & Hazel Chemical Co., on changes to its Darkie brand toothpaste.
The toothpaste, which is popular in Asia, was called Darkie when it was first introduced in the 1930s. Packages featured a drawing of a minstrel singer in blackface with a wide smile; a Hawey & Hazel executive came up with the logo after visiting the United States and seeing Al Jolson perform. The Chinese name on the box translated to “black man toothpaste.”
I'm white, so I have no right to say whether these things are offensive or not to people of color. BUT... Darkie toothpaste!? That's pretty bad! :(
Not really. It is not sold in the US. You can't get all butthurt because a word in another language can be made to mean something different in your language. I honestly would not have thought about a toothpaste being called "Darkie". It would never have entered my mind it could or would mean anything. Just a name. Guess black people gonna be peed off about people naming their dog "Blackie" now. One of the most popular names for dogs. ::)
Did you know that in come countries doing the "thumbs up" which people do all the time in the US is considered offensive? So are we suppose to say you can't do that any more because somebody somewhere might be offended up it? Guess what pretty much everything you do will offend somebody. If you want to know what it means google it.
What difference does it make where it's sold? It's not a bad "translation", and it doesn't make it less offensive. The original logo is literally a black man and it's called Darkie. There's no ambiguity there and completely different than a thumbs up with different meanings.
It makes a lot of difference where it is sold. Did you even read what I said? Words mean different things in different languages. No it is not completely different. The thumbs up is an example of something else that in one country means something good and in another supposedly means something bad. Just like in spanish the word "negro" means the color black. That is THEIR WORD for the color black. You can be offended all you want and you can choose to be offended by everything coming and going. I chose not to. Makes life a whole lot happier. lol
Yes, I read what you said. But "darkie" is not a different language. It's English, and it's generally considered derogatory, along with blackface, whether you agree or not. And even though they've changed the logo and the name to Darlie, the Chinese characters still translate to "black person toothpaste". It's easy to say you're not offended when it's not referring to you.
lol No I am just not a snowflake. The first question I asked was "is this toothpaste not sold in another country and this name used in another country" where it would mean something totally different. That was the whole point. Just like I just said in mexico saying you have a negro car means you have a black car. That is THEIR word for black - the color black. But if you say that same thing in the US people will come unglued. It all depends on who you are "offending". If it is offensive to a Christian they are just suppose to get over it.
As far as "darkie" I have actually never heard that word before. Especially have not heard it used to describe a person.
If you research it there are a lot of words used in various countries that mean something totally different or even "offensive" ::) in other countries. I guess we are all going to have to not talk and not have names on products because no matter what it is somewhere somebody will be offended.
It's unlikely that anyone is going to say "negro car", because that's mixing two languages. Yes, negro means black in Spanish. But using negro in reference to a car is NOT the same as using negro in reference to a person. They're not even pronounced the same.
Have you ever seen Gone with the Wind? They call their slaves "darkies". And when you call your product DARKIE and your logo is based on a white man in blackface, it's very obviously in poor taste, at best. How exactly would that mean anything else?
You don't have to be a snowflake, but you don't have to be insensitive and ignorant either.
::) Obviously you have not been around too many people from Mexico. I know a guy that is from Mexico and he mixes the two languages all the time. And no I do not think I have ever seen Gone with the Wind. You still did not answer my question. You ignore where I said what I read I thought this product was sold in another country. Which goes back to words mean different things in different languages and different countries. Be offended. That is fine. I honestly do not care what people call their products. Like I said, it does not matter what you do, say, wear, or name your company, post on social media, have on a sign in your yard or in front of your business - somewhere, some person will be offended.
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LOL I see the devil identified himself.
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LOL I see the devil identified himself.
This is quite hilarious with CG.
With FC members she will put their quotes up even if they R 900000 pages long.
She is soooooo paranoid of us she talks around it to get our attn and not quote us.
Most here My dear know UR the true offspring of a viper.NO one has to go very far to see how u constantly *iss others off.
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::) Obviously you have not been around too many people from Mexico. I know a guy that is from Mexico and he mixes the two languages all the time. And no I do not think I have ever seen Gone with the Wind. You still did not answer my question. You ignore where I said what I read I thought this product was sold in another country. Which goes back to words mean different things in different languages and different countries.
Yes, I live around and work with Mexican people. That's why I learned Spanish. What was your question that I didn't answer? The toothpaste is called Darkie (a well-known reference to a dark-skinned person), the logo is a blackfaced man, and the Chinese characters translate to "black person toothpaste". What else could these three things together be interpreted as? I do not see this as meaning anything else than what it is. Especially, when there's already a documented history on its origin.
Be offended. That is fine. I honestly do not care what people call their products.
This is why racism still exists. Because people "don't care".
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::) Obviously you have not been around too many people from Mexico. I know a guy that is from Mexico and he mixes the two languages all the time. And no I do not think I have ever seen Gone with the Wind. You still did not answer my question. You ignore where I said what I read I thought this product was sold in another country. Which goes back to words mean different things in different languages and different countries.
Yes, I live around and work with Mexican people. That's why I learned Spanish. What was your question that I didn't answer? The toothpaste is called Darkie (a well-known reference to a dark-skinned person), the logo is a blackfaced man, and the Chinese characters translate to "black person toothpaste". What else could these three things together be interpreted as? I do not see this as meaning anything else than what it is. Especially, when there's already a documented history on its origin.
Be offended. That is fine. I honestly do not care what people call their products.
This is why racism still exists. Because people "don't care".
The question not answered is I thought this toothpaste was sold in another country. In a country where the word "darkie" would not mean the same as people say it means here. I had actually never heard the word and if I did would not associate it with referring to a black person. Guess I just don't think that way. That is why I referenced the thumbs up. You can have a product and have a character on the package giving a thumbs up and it does not mean anything bad. But in some countries they say it means something bad. So it would depend on where the product was sold.
And as far as not caring what people call their products that has nothing to do with racism. The sad thing is how so many want to act like racism is just white against black. There are blacks that are more racist against whites than anybody else ever thought about being.
I will also point out - so why are people not offended by the hair products that are specifically for black women?
And if you live and work with mexican people and they don't mix the two languages they are an exception. Most of the ones around here do that. This guy I use to work with does it a lot. Especially if he gets excited. I talked to a hispanic guy at Walmart the other day and he was doing it. I actually knew the words he said in spanish so it was not a problem.
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Aunt Jemima was the first female black millionaire. First black woman owned major/national business, I agree it is an insult to change the name. That seems like very good history to celebrate.
Interesting. Didn't know this. I love Aunt Jemimas.
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I believe that they are trying to delete history and it should not be. Not only they are taking down statues of confederate people but also of Christopher Columbus and others from the Conquistador times? Seriously! I fear we will eventually come to the realization that we cannot erase every single instance of inequality or prejudice in our society merely by changing the labels and products, statues, flags, city and school names, etc. that some people (in many cases quite legitimately) find offensive.
I come from an Spanish country, and Negro is the color black, but is also a nickname for people. My cousins name is Vicky and she is the darkest of her sisters and we have always called "Negra" and not as an insult is just a nickname and she has never been offended. There is a lot of discrimination around the world. Changing labels, is literally just that ... changing a label. Changing hearts (on BOTH sides of the issues) is a much bigger mountain to climb. By picking and choosing what names/labels/products are offensive, we are creating a slippery slope on the climbing side of that mountain.
I can understand why some people finds these stuff offensive but there is always a teaching moment on everything you see, instead of just taking it down or eliminating the name, they should show the history behind it. I also find offensive that for many US citizens everyone who speaks Spanish is "Mexican". Mexico is not the only country South of the USA that speaks Spanish but instead of getting mad and tell them that I come from Panama and we also speak Spanish.
So changing labels is not going to solve the problem. It wil only be solved when the mind set is changed.
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People need to look at Venezuela. The people are starving to death. Socialism does not work so don't even start with oh we would do it right. If you do some research you will find with them it started the same way...taking down statues and erasing history. LYWB168 you are correct in that changing the name of a product or the label does not change history. And history does not need to be changed. Besides the fact that nobody alive today had anything to do with things that happened 100 plus years ago. I have said for a long time that people better wake up. I think it is now too late to wake up.
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I think we've gotten kind of crazy with being politically correct. Aunt Jeminma Syrup is in no way racist. The woman who is pictured on the bottle was highly paid and very well compensated. Come on people! Let use a little common sense.
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I think we've gotten kind of crazy with being politically correct. Aunt Jeminma Syrup is in no way racist. The woman who is pictured on the bottle was highly paid and very well compensated. Come on people! Let use a little common sense.
Her family was also still receiving royalties. And when the name changes those payments will stop. I saw something where her nephew is crying about that. I don't know who started it but I am guessing it if was the family they did not think things through. I think everything needs to come in a plain white and a plain black package. You can buy which ever one does not offend you. And names of every product need to be very generic. Then the butthurt society I woke up in a few weeks ago can get on with living their lives.
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What are your thoughts on changing the names of Aunt Jemina, Uncle Ben, and Eskimo Pie?
Don't really care. I used to like Aunt Jemima syrup but it's nothing but corn syrup which is so bad for your health. I do see the destroying of our history & culture under false pretenses & hyperbolic nonsense as nothing more than moving the world to a more progressive one world order, which has been the plan since Bush the elder was in office. They are playing the long game, like China & their 100 year plan. Nothing is by happenstance & I don't think there is anything to be done to stop it.
It is not corn syrup. Nothing at all like corn syrup.
Ingredients: Corn Syrup, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Water, Cellulose Gum, Caramel Color, Salt, Natural And Artificial Flavor, Sodium Benzoate And Sorbic Acid (Preservatives), Sodium Hexametaphosphate.
https://www.auntjemima.com/products/syrups/original
Oops! Read the label! Learned this and now I only buy Natural Maple Syrup!
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I think we've gotten kind of crazy with being politically correct. Aunt Jeminma Syrup is in no way racist. The woman who is pictured on the bottle was highly paid and very well compensated. Come on people! Let use a little common sense.
Her family was also still receiving royalties. And when the name changes those payments will stop. I saw something where her nephew is crying about that. I don't know who started it but I am guessing it if was the family they did not think things through. I think everything needs to come in a plain white and a plain black package. You can buy which ever one does not offend you. And names of every product need to be very generic. Then the butthurt society I woke up in a few weeks ago can get on with living their lives.
Won't they still receive the royalties for the recipe, even if the name changes or the picture/label?
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i dont see the name to change them and i agree that it is an insult to the history of these characters if i understand my facts correctly
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I think we've gotten kind of crazy with being politically correct. Aunt Jeminma Syrup is in no way racist. The woman who is pictured on the bottle was highly paid and very well compensated. Come on people! Let use a little common sense.
Her family was also still receiving royalties. And when the name changes those payments will stop. I saw something where her nephew is crying about that. I don't know who started it but I am guessing it if was the family they did not think things through. I think everything needs to come in a plain white and a plain black package. You can buy which ever one does not offend you. And names of every product need to be very generic. Then the butthurt society I woke up in a few weeks ago can get on with living their lives.
Won't they still receive the royalties for the recipe, even if the name changes or the picture/label?
Idk. The article I read said they would lose that. It makes sense if it is the recipe. But I thought it was just her picture they were using.
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i dont see the name to change them and i agree that it is an insult to the history of these characters if i understand my facts correctly
Never thought of that. Obviously they did not have any issues with their picture been used and agreed to it. I honestly think they would be disgusted if they could see what is going on in the world today.
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This is why racism still exists. Because people "don't care".
No...racism exists and continues to exist because there are those that DO care about this belief in racial superiority over another and behave in an antagonistic, discriminatory and prejudicial manner because of it.
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This is why racism still exists. Because people "don't care".
No...racism exists continues to exist because there are those that DO care about this belief in racial superiority over another and behave in an antagonistic, discriminatory and prejudicial manner because of it.
God is not partial.
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20130601/god-is-not-partial/
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I don't think that is necessary, but it really doesn't bother me. If they want to change it, go ahead and change it.
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These liberals are extremely crazy, this is all coming from the universities....
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What are your thoughts on changing the names of Aunt Jemina, Uncle Ben, and Eskimo Pie?
Don't really care. I used to like Aunt Jemima syrup but it's nothing but corn syrup which is so bad for your health. I do see the destroying of our history & culture under false pretenses & hyperbolic nonsense as nothing more than moving the world to a more progressive one world order, which has been the plan since Bush the elder was in office. They are playing the long game, like China & their 100 year plan. Nothing is by happenstance & I don't think there is anything to be done to stop it.
It is not corn syrup. Nothing at all like corn syrup.
Ingredients: Corn Syrup, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Water, Cellulose Gum, Caramel Color, Salt, Natural And Artificial Flavor, Sodium Benzoate And Sorbic Acid (Preservatives), Sodium Hexametaphosphate.
https://www.auntjemima.com/products/syrups/original
Oops! Read the label! Learned this and now I only buy Natural Maple Syrup!
I have real corn syrup and they sure don't taste anything like the same. I don't know if I have ever tried Maple syrup.
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Honestly I think it is dumb. Leave it as is. No one is offended by the syrup bottle.
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Honestly I think it is dumb. Leave it as is. No one is offended by the syrup bottle.
Apparently somebody is lol
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Apparently someone is using gasoline,not syrup.
::)<whistling>
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Why? Do you want to change history on those brand names?
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About time they did.
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Honestly, it does not bother me in the slightest. Coincidentally, I joked to my mother (on the day the name change became official) that they may eventually change the name of Aunt Jemima. The even greater irony was that I was using Aunt Jemima syrup when I made the joke. Very eerie, indeed.