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Discussion Boards => Off-Topic => Topic started by: dahnjuan on November 01, 2009, 05:51:33 pm
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As a one time thing should we cover this service with tax dollars if you qualify under poverty or should we continue to pay for the birth, food and maybe housing?
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are you kidding? we'd rather pay for your unwanted
child than for you not to have it at all.
and then complain about it.
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I don`t support abortions at all, if anything it should only be adptions. Its better this way to have adptions only, then people that can`t have a child could have a chance to have one.
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Woman have to pay for their own rape kits, I doubt they'll have abortions be covered by tax dollars.
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I agree that there are too many people out there having children that shouldnt because they cant afford to properly take care of a child, but I dont think poverty will ever be a reason for the USA to foot an abortion bill. I am pro-choice, but there are so many other issues that need to be addressed for welfare individuals before sex and children.
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Absolutely 100% not!!! This is crazy, now we are going to pay to kill, we pay the taxes, wouldn't that make us murderers, I want no part in it. guess we will all have to go to jail for not paying taxes or be murderers if it comes down to this.
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The only way I believe in abortion, if a woman/girl gets raped, they should be able to have one. other that that, my opinion is that it is not a form of birth control. u should take precautions if u do not want a baby. :bootyshake:
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I do not agree with abortion unless the woman is raped. That is murder and it is against God.
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I agree with Marieelissa
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Why not, our tax dollars goes to pay for other idiotic things that the corrupt politicians have decided on things that are not needed. I do believe in abortions-its the womans decision and no one else.
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:-[ I would gladly sign a bill for raped mothers to have an abortion and we, my husband and I pay taxes on the bill. Although I would rather all people give away for adoption but that is my opinion and neither are wrong. I understand that in the long run a child might try to locate the mother and then it would just peel the scab off of an old wound. I think this topic is rather heart pulling and we as people should realize that people do things that not everyone likes. Does this mean the mother or us are wrong, NO. We all just have our own opinions on the subject.
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I would rather pay for an abortion (No matter what the circumstances i.e. mother was raped, mother is too young and doesn't know what to do, mother can't afford baby etc), then to have to pay for a child that the parents didn't want or couldn't afford. At least with this I know where the money is going. I knew a lot of people on welfare, most of the time the money didn't even go towards the child like it should. So yes I'd rather pay for an abortion then pay for an unfit mother's new Prada bag, or car note.
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Absolutely 100% not!!! This is crazy, now we are going to pay to kill, we pay the taxes, wouldn't that make us murderers, I want no part in it. guess we will all have to go to jail for not paying taxes or be murderers if it comes down to this.
What about when a women gets raped and gets pregnant because of it. She should be forced to have the baby and give it up for adoption and the child never knows her parents? Then one day her mom tells her she was raped and didn't want her.
I think that would be very messed up :'(
Adption is better then killing the child, i think they should make it a law that abortions are aganist the law. Most of the time when adptions are done thats it unless you want something to do with the child. 5 years ago i gave up my child to Adption, so i have gone through it before. One of my friends has also gone through the raped thing and she waited till child was born and gave to a family that couldn`t have one.
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I don`t support abortions at all, if anything it should only be adptions. Its better this way to have adptions only, then people that can`t have a child could have a chance to have one.
There are an estimated 500,000 children in foster care at the moment.
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I do not agree with abortion unless the woman is raped. That is murder and it is against God.
And where do you draw the line?
Every step you take kills trillions of bacteria. You eat food, I assume -- is that also "murder?" If you're really protecting the "sanctity of life," you would attempt to walk or sit where there would realistically be the least amount of bacteria. If you were protecting the "sanctity of life," you would eat as little as you possibly could to continue functioning. If you were protecting the "sanctity of life," you wouldn't scratch your arm when it itches. You would avoid getting your hair cut or shaving. Your choice of clothing would be very limited.
The truth of the matter is you probably do absolutely none of this, and for what reasoning?
Of course the "god says not to." Why? "Oh, it has a soul!!!" How do you reason twinning or chimeras in pregnancy then? When does this soul enter? Upon fertilization? At what point in fertilization (fertilization is almost a 24 hour process)? What happens to the huge number of eggs that go unfertilized and are just passed out through bodily functions (I hope I don't need to explain this)? Do you think masturbation results in millions of murders; shouldn't basically every male in the world be convicted of mass murder? What happens if a male doesn't ejaculate -- the sperm is reabsorbed by the body after a period of time...is this also murder?
The other truth of the matter is you've drawn an arbitrary line that has no logic behind it.
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I don`t support abortions at all, if anything it should only be adptions. Its better this way to have adptions only, then people that can`t have a child could have a chance to have one.
this works out all fine and dandy for the couple that gets to adopt the baby, but what about the woman (or young unwed teenage girl) that is forced to have it? and what about abortions in cases where it is a danger to the woman to have it? or a woman with disease or genetic defect that will inevitably be passed on to the poor baby? you can't guarantee that someone will want to adopt a baby that has a disease or defect.
i think the decision of abortion versus adoption lies with each individual woman and she should not be judged based on her choice. and i very strongly believe that god and religion have no part in this.
furthermore, i am happily married and have two beautiful children that i love more than anything but i know that if i were to become preganant any time soon, my husband and i would be discussing this very topic!
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no. if i stepped on my soapbox and started talking about why i say no in full detail, i'd be here all day lol. but no, i don't think abortions should be covered by our taxes. MY money should not have to go toward terminating an unwanted pregnancy they ended up with from having sex. if they don't want to get pregnant, refrain from sex. yes, no sex. i think if you're willing to participate in an act, then you should also be willing to deal with any possible consequences, and with sex, that includes pregnancy. i'll leave it at that.
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NO, I do not support abortions...especially paying for it through taxpayers money. That is like paying someonee to murder your
mother or wife or husband. They have lives and every life is created by God. Individuals attempt to justify murder by proclaiming
that at a certain develpmental stage, there is no life. Life begins at conception.
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NO, I do not support abortions...especially paying for it through taxpayers money. That is like paying someonee to murder your
mother or wife or husband.
It is absolutely nothing like someone murdering a relative -.- Pardon my language, but are you f'ing serious? You seriously can't see the distinction between a 20 week old fetus and an individual who has a job, relationships, responsibilities, etc.?
They have lives and every life is created by God. Individuals attempt to justify murder by proclaiming
that at a certain develpmental stage, there is no life. Life begins at conception.
There isn't a single person on this planet who legitimately argues an abortion doesn't end life (anyone who does shouldn't be listened to). They're living cells and tissues inside a living being. Everybody knows it's alive. That isn't the issue at all in this debate.
It would do you well to look a bit more into the structure of this entire debate before saying silly things or arguing about things that aren't even important on this topic (ie whether a fetus is alive or not).
But just for fun, could you describe "conception" to me without looking it up?
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I don`t support abortions at all, if anything it should only be adptions. Its better this way to have adptions only, then people that can`t have a child could have a chance to have one.
this works out all fine and dandy for the couple that gets to adopt the baby, but what about the woman (or young unwed teenage girl) that is forced to have it? and what about abortions in cases where it is a danger to the woman to have it? or a woman with disease or genetic defect that will inevitably be passed on to the poor baby? you can't guarantee that someone will want to adopt a baby that has a disease or defect.
i think the decision of abortion versus adoption lies with each individual woman and she should not be judged based on her choice. and i very strongly believe that god and religion have no part in this.
furthermore, i am happily married and have two beautiful children that i love more than anything but i know that if i were to become preganant any time soon, my husband and i would be discussing this very topic!
God has everything to do with it if it weren`t for God you wouldn`t be here nor would I. God wanted to create life not destroy life, by having abortions done thats what these women are doing Destroying life. Why destroy and lets save lives, we can debate this all nite i will never agree thats its right to have abortions in anyway. Abortions should be aganist the law.
For one i don`t Judge that will be God Job in the end
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I don`t support abortions at all, if anything it should only be adptions. Its better this way to have adptions only, then people that can`t have a child could have a chance to have one.
this works out all fine and dandy for the couple that gets to adopt the baby, but what about the woman (or young unwed teenage girl) that is forced to have it? and what about abortions in cases where it is a danger to the woman to have it? or a woman with disease or genetic defect that will inevitably be passed on to the poor baby? you can't guarantee that someone will want to adopt a baby that has a disease or defect.
i think the decision of abortion versus adoption lies with each individual woman and she should not be judged based on her choice. and i very strongly believe that god and religion have no part in this.
furthermore, i am happily married and have two beautiful children that i love more than anything but i know that if i were to become preganant any time soon, my husband and i would be discussing this very topic!
God has everything to do with it if it weren`t for God you wouldn`t be here nor would I. God wanted to create life not destroy life, by having abortions done thats what these women are doing Destroying life. Why destroy and lets save lives, we can debate this all nite i will never agree thats its right to have abortions in anyway. Abortions should be aganist the law.
For one i don`t Judge that will be God Job in the end
There is literally zero purpose in having a discussion with you. Why would you make a thread on a forum about a controversial issue if this is going to be your position? How old are you, may I ask?
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Abortion should NOT be covered by tax dollars. It is the persons own mistake to take such a stupid risk. On top of that, abortion is not right. Millions of dollars are spent to save babies in the womb, puppies inside a mother, etc and here they want to kill something that is alive. How would you like if that happened to you, they didn't care just because you were a baby? EVERYONE you know was a baby at some point, aren't I right?
Anyways.. I don't want to start a fight, and you should stop, we got our opinions in, don't fight with each other.
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Abortion should NOT be covered by tax dollars. It is the persons own mistake to take such a stupid risk.
Abortions are going to occur whether you approve or not. Abortions are going to occur whether they're illegal or not. They can be done by medical professionals with the safety of the woman in good hands or they can be done by some random, unregulated guy in an alley with a hanger. Take your choice.
On top of that, abortion is not right. Millions of dollars are spent to save babies in the womb, puppies inside a mother, etc and here they want to kill something that is alive.
You just killed trillions of living organisms by sitting down in your chair and typing on your keyboard. I'm pretty certain you've masturbated? Mass murderer! How many females over age 14 do you know that aren't pregnant? Monthly murderers! Toss them all in jail please.
How would you like if that happened to you, they didn't care just because you were a baby?
I wouldn't know anything about it, so I can't say it would make much of a difference to me.
EVERYONE you know was a baby at some point, aren't I right?
Brilliant point against abortion, I must say!
Anyways.. I don't want to start a fight, and you should stop, we got our opinions in, don't fight with each other.
Nobody is fighting. It's a discussion on a discussion forum.
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Adoption is not a better option for the mother.
She still has to go through a pregnancy that hurts her, a lot, and for nothing.
In the case of rape I think taxes should pay for abortions.
If it wasn't rape, the women can pay for it themselves. It's their own fault.
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God has everything to do with it if it weren`t for God you wouldn`t be here nor would I. God wanted to create life not destroy life, by having abortions done thats what these women are doing Destroying life. Why destroy and lets save lives, we can debate this all nite i will never agree thats its right to have abortions in anyway. Abortions should be aganist the law.
For one i don`t Judge that will be God Job in the end
first of all, your statement that if it weren't for god we wouldn't be here is entirely your opinion. and i'll believe that abortion is wrong when "god" comes to my door and tell me it is. since we all know that's not going to happen, to continue my point, you say that an abortion is a woman destroying a life. but a woman can actually destroy 2 lives, or even more, by having a baby she didn't want. she's ruining her own life, and the child's if she really doesn't want it and doesn't care for it, and that can go on and on ruining the lives of the baby's father if he didn't want a baby, and the lives of her family who might not want to accept this unwanted child. i know that all of that sounds horrible and i wish that there weren't people like that but there are, and in those cases i don't think these people should have their babies. and back to the baby, how do you think that child will feel, growing up knowing that his mother didn't want him? how will that child feel when he learns that if it weren't for some high-and-mighty people making abortion illegal he would never have been born? how will he feel knowing that hismom didn't want him and that his brith has ruined her life? that sounds like a lot of pain that could have been prevented with an abortion.
and finally, for someone who says they don't want to judge, you sure do sound judgemental.
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and i feel like i should point out that i never said that abortions should be covered by our tax dollars. i only got involved in this topic because of some of the ignorant reasoning and opinions that abortions should be illegal althogether.
as for those people against our tax dollars paying for abortions, i hate to tell you that, in a way, they already do. our tax dollars pay for public assistance and medi-cal, and, depending on where you live, medi-cal will cover an abortion. and our tax dollars also fund government programs, programs that in turn fund things like planned parenthood. and, again depending on where you live and your personal financial situation, you can get an abortion at planned parenthood for free or reduced cost. so it looks like all those against abortion may have been paying for it all along...