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:icon_rr: Is there any good news to report! That's all you here on the radio station's and the News. Unemployment is at an all time high at 12% - 8-9 million American ( White, African-American, Latin-American, Pink, Purple) out of work, who cares what color you are...we need JOBS!
How could this happen, one of the greatest country on earth... And your trying to tell me that our so-called government can't create jobs for it's people or build factories and start making stuff again- but they can go spend Billions in other countries to help them rebuild their lives...What About Us!
Don't get me wrong, I want to help other people in need no matter where they live - it sadden me when I watch the news that a lot of countries around the world are starving and greatly need medical supplies or what have you. I don't know about you, but I was always taught before you clean someone else house, you need to clean yours first...and I still live by that rule today.
Here in my home town Chicago (IL) the unemployment office's and job fairs, look like a rock concert, I stood in line for 7 hours and I myself have been out of work for 1 year 5 months. I filled out every job application I could get my hands on... oh yeah! I did the Internet profile thing too! I never in all my years seen so many desperate men and women looking for work, mostly men! something came across my mind all of sudden as a father while standing inline - all these men have families, what does it do to a man's ego when he can't support his family. Desperate men Do Desperate Things! Idle Mind Is the Devil's Work Shop! you get the picture.
Here is my American Stimulus Package Proposal:
1.We as American's need to treat our politician's just like an employer would do when you first start a new job. You got 60-90 days to prove you can handle this job - if not, your a$$ is out of here! NEXT!!!
2. All the 8-9 million American people that's out work and including myself, should march on Washington DC or U.S. Capital and demand our government to create jobs and start rebuilding America again...I bet you we will have jobs by tomorrow morning!
Care to add to the proposal - I would appreciate your thoughts!
Terry Clark
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It is not the government's job to create jobs. Sure, they can pay someone to dig a hole and another person to fill it. Real productive. They need to get their hands out of things. Government is the problem, not the solution.
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I just lost my job on Thursday and my husband has been unemployed for a year now. So, how do we explain to our children in a few months why we don't have a home to live in an cars to drive any more. It's getting bad, really really bad. I worked for a fortune 500 company that promised they weren't going to lay people off. Instead they underwent some serious changes and if you weren't up to par, you were booted out.
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I just got laid off a few weeks ago. It is scary out there that is for sure!
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It is not the government's job to create jobs. Sure, they can pay someone to dig a hole and another person to fill it. Real productive. They need to get their hands out of things. Government is the problem, not the solution.
Actually the federal government is legally responsible for maintaining a reasonable level of unemployment through fiscal policy. Legislation was passed quite some time ago (the name of the bill evades me at the moment) requiring the federal government to do so, so yes, it is their job to a certain degree.
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I live in Michigan with the highest umeployment rate and I am going to be needing a job here to pay of student loans. considering my county is only 8.5% probably because of the casino and college in this town but I have filled out maybe 60 applications and no one wants me.
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I live in Michigan with the highest umeployment rate and I am going to be needing a job here to pay of student loans. considering my county is only 8.5% probably because of the casino and college in this town but I have filled out maybe 60 applications and no one wants me.
OMG! i also live in Michigan!!! but I'm only a high school student. i want a job to help out my family because they are also going through some financial issues...my dad just lost his job after being laid of for about...a year. and my mom is in school.....without a job. so now both my mom and dad are looking for jobs atm, that why i don't expect any Xmas presents this year.
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It is not the government's job to create jobs. Sure, they can pay someone to dig a hole and another person to fill it. Real productive. They need to get their hands out of things. Government is the problem, not the solution.
Actually the federal government is legally responsible for maintaining a reasonable level of unemployment through fiscal policy. Legislation was passed quite some time ago (the name of the bill evades me at the moment) requiring the federal government to do so, so yes, it is their job to a certain degree.
The federal reserve is in charge of fiscal policy, not the government. Of course, the people who work for the fed are appointed by the president. Therefore, their jobs depend on the president keeping his. I know of no bill or legislation that was passed requiring government to maintain a reasonable level of unemployment. If there is one, I would like to know where to find it. The only employment the government needs to legally worry about is the employment of their own government employees.
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:icon_rr: Is there any good news to report! That's all you here on the radio station's and the News. Unemployment is at an all time high at 12% - 8-9 million American ( White, African-American, Latin-American, Pink, Purple) out of work, who cares what color you are...we need JOBS!
Here is my American Stimulus Package Proposal:
1.We as American's need to treat our politician's just like an employer would do when you first start a new job. You got 60-90 days to prove you can handle this job - if not, your a$$ is out of here! NEXT!!!
2. All the 8-9 million American people that's out work and including myself, should march on Washington DC or U.S. Capital and demand our government to create jobs and start rebuilding America again...I bet you we will have jobs by tomorrow morning!
Well first of all, the nations unemployment DROPPED from 10.2% to 10% this month...Don't know where your getting your facts from but they are wrong. The worst of the recession is over.
1. Employers do that already...are you stupid? If you are still doing bad at your job after 60-90 days they let you go...You should know this being an adult
2. You are an idiot. By marching to Washington and demanding jobs do you think they will just hand them to you? Thats a hell of a lot of money to dish out, and it is useless to the economy. Government spending doesn't help a recession, it only causes short term inflation, just as the stock market is doing now. It has risen 25% in the last year, which is useless. The government won't create a job from millions and pay for it. Say you make $35,000 per year for 1 million americans...Thats $35 billion we don't have. If you knew simple economics and had some common sense you would know both of your 2 solutions are equivalent to an elementary kid's opinion on the economy. They offer no such solution and just a crazy idea.
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My proposal: Get the government out of the "free" market, and the the fre market work the way it's suppose to! That's why everything costs so much, everything the government gets involved with sky rockets! Take college for example, all the subsidies for college let schools charge anything they want for tuition because they know the government will give students scholarships to pay for it. That's my 2 cents anyways.
@kesto4 ...worst of the recession is just begining, 1 month of a .2% loss in unemployment and a small quarterly profit does not mean the worst is over. All the gov. stimulus has done is slow the recession and make it worse in the long run. Technically, the recession is declared over when 2 quarters are profits. The next 2 years are going to be hell.
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My proposal: Get the government out of the "free" market, and the the fre market work the way it's suppose to! That's why everything costs so much, everything the government gets involved with sky rockets! Take college for example, all the subsidies for college let schools charge anything they want for tuition because they know the government will give students scholarships to pay for it. That's my 2 cents anyways.
People always scream that. And then monopolies and oligopolies develop, block entry into the market, charge higher than socially acceptable prices, have the ability to provide inferior goods, etc. And then those same people are screaming for the government to regulate the monopolies and oligopolies. Make up your minds. Neither economic extreme will ever work -- a completely free market economy has downfalls; a completely socialist economy has downfalls.
As for the university, are you suggesting the government stop providing funds to public universities/colleges? Do you not realize how expensive tuition would be if the government provided no funding? Have you ever seen the tuition at a private university -- why do you think their tuition is so high compared to a public university?
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My brother has been out of work since last March. It is a horrible situation that has turned life upside down for him, his wife, and child. There is so much work that needs to be done in this country. We need a work program similar to the New Deal. I can still see some the fine walls and other projects that they built in my home town during the Great Depression. That's what we need, and training for the new green tech jobs.
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:icon_rr: Is there any good news to report! That's all you here on the radio station's and the News. Unemployment is at an all time high at 12% - 8-9 million American ( White, African-American, Latin-American, Pink, Purple) out of work, who cares what color you are...we need JOBS!
Here is my American Stimulus Package Proposal:
1.We as American's need to treat our politician's just like an employer would do when you first start a new job. You got 60-90 days to prove you can handle this job - if not, your a$$ is out of here! NEXT!!!
2. All the 8-9 million American people that's out work and including myself, should march on Washington DC or U.S. Capital and demand our government to create jobs and start rebuilding America again...I bet you we will have jobs by tomorrow morning!
Well first of all, the nations unemployment DROPPED from 10.2% to 10% this month...Don't know where your getting your facts from but they are wrong. The worst of the recession is over.
1. Employers do that already...are you stupid? If you are still doing bad at your job after 60-90 days they let you go...You should know this being an adult
2. You are an idiot. By marching to Washington and demanding jobs do you think they will just hand them to you? Thats a hell of a lot of money to dish out, and it is useless to the economy. Government spending doesn't help a recession, it only causes short term inflation, just as the stock market is doing now. It has risen 25% in the last year, which is useless. The government won't create a job from millions and pay for it. Say you make $35,000 per year for 1 million americans...Thats $35 billion we don't have. If you knew simple economics and had some common sense you would know both of your 2 solutions are equivalent to an elementary kid's opinion on the economy. They offer no such solution and just a crazy idea.
You sound really angry and insulting here. Why would you talk like this and be abusive to someone just speaking their mind? While the recession is not as steep as it was, the economy is very, very poor. It will take years and years to rebuild. It's no fun being out of work, I lost my job over a year ago, as our entire office closed.
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@kesto4 ...worst of the recession is just begining, 1 month of a .2% loss in unemployment and a small quarterly profit does not mean the worst is over. All the gov. stimulus has done is slow the recession and make it worse in the long run. Technically, the recession is declared over when 2 quarters are profits. The next 2 years are going to be hell.
There is no recession. By every credible definition it ended some time ago, and most economic organizations support this.
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It is not the government's job to create jobs. Sure, they can pay someone to dig a hole and another person to fill it. Real productive. They need to get their hands out of things. Government is the problem, not the solution.
Actually the federal government is legally responsible for maintaining a reasonable level of unemployment through fiscal policy. Legislation was passed quite some time ago (the name of the bill evades me at the moment) requiring the federal government to do so, so yes, it is their job to a certain degree.
The federal reserve is in charge of fiscal policy, not the government. Of course, the people who work for the fed are appointed by the president. Therefore, their jobs depend on the president keeping his. I know of no bill or legislation that was passed requiring government to maintain a reasonable level of unemployment. If there is one, I would like to know where to find it. The only employment the government needs to legally worry about is the employment of their own government employees.
err the Federal Reserve is part of the US federal government, thus fiscal policy is determined by the government, as I said.
As for the bills:
The Employment Act of 1946: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employment_Act
Humphrey–Hawkins Full Employment Act: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_Employment_and_Balanced_Growth_Act
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The government won't create a job from millions and pay for it. Say you make $35,000 per year for 1 million americans...Thats $35 billion we don't have.
Yeah but they will take out billions and even over a trillion to give to a small handful of companies who failed at their job and were headed out of business hehe. 35$ Billion is like a big mac compared to the amount of money they gave away to these corporations for the bailout. The government doesn't create jobs, but it is supposed to help maintain an environment where growth and jobs are possible. Inflating the cost to run a business, consolidating into fewer larger corporations, raising taxes on small business owners, rewarding financial advisers and lenders who make bad decisions, etc. this is all contributing to the fraud and bad economy, its people who exploit these things, but its the government who protects those who exploit, and even rewards them in most cases. The Federal Reserve actually doesnt even answer to Congress, thats why there is a bill introduced which is to Audit the Fed, since we really have no clue what they do behind closed doors,and they say they dont have to answer. Bernanke etc. feel they can just print billions in bailouts, and give random numbers "something really high" and have no need to explain the reasoning, then they adjust the inflation/interest rates as well single handely and without oversite.
This is hopefully going to change if the bill is passed...
and The Federal Reserve is NOT part of the Federal Government. Just as Federal Express is not a part of the Federal Government. They are nothing more than a name. It is run by private bankers who hold the most interest in the Federal Reserve, Google it and you can find the exact banks (JP Morgan, Chase, Rockefeller etcIn particular,
neither the Federal Reserve System nor its component banks are owned by the US Federal Government.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve_System
Twelve regional privately-owned Federal Reserve Banks located in major cities throughout the nation, which divide the nation into 12 districts, acting as fiscal agents for the U.S. Treasury, each with its own nine-member board of directors.
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True, technically it isn't owned by the US government. But it is not a private, profit seeking organization either. It is a so called "independent" institution within the government that has private aspects.
But let's be realistic, the people who are really in charge of The Fed (the Board of Governors) are appointed by the President and approved by the Senate. Each of the nine-member board directors you mention have three members who are appointed by the Board of Governors. The Fed is supposedly subject to oversight by Congress -- and I say supposedly given more recent events. No stock in any Federal Reserve Bank has ever been sold "to the public, to foreigners, or to any non-bank U.S. firm." Etc. etc.
I think it's a bit of a stretch to call it a private organization, but correct, it was a mistake to portray it as an official branch of the federal government. I don't think we can really pretend Obama and Bernanke are enemies.
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:icon_rr: Is there any good news to report! That's all you here on the radio station's and the News. Unemployment is at an all time high at 12% - 8-9 million American ( White, African-American, Latin-American, Pink, Purple) out of work, who cares what color you are...we need JOBS!
Here is my American Stimulus Package Proposal:
1.We as American's need to treat our politician's just like an employer would do when you first start a new job. You got 60-90 days to prove you can handle this job - if not, your a$$ is out of here! NEXT!!!
2. All the 8-9 million American people that's out work and including myself, should march on Washington DC or U.S. Capital and demand our government to create jobs and start rebuilding America again...I bet you we will have jobs by tomorrow morning!
Well first of all, the nations unemployment DROPPED from 10.2% to 10% this month...Don't know where your getting your facts from but they are wrong. The worst of the recession is over.
1. Employers do that already...are you stupid? If you are still doing bad at your job after 60-90 days they let you go...You should know this being an adult
2. You are an idiot. By marching to Washington and demanding jobs do you think they will just hand them to you? Thats a hell of a lot of money to dish out, and it is useless to the economy. Government spending doesn't help a recession, it only causes short term inflation, just as the stock market is doing now. It has risen 25% in the last year, which is useless. The government won't create a job from millions and pay for it. Say you make $35,000 per year for 1 million americans...Thats $35 billion we don't have. If you knew simple economics and had some common sense you would know both of your 2 solutions are equivalent to an elementary kid's opinion on the economy. They offer no such solution and just a crazy idea.
Wait one minute, "YOU DON"T KNOW ME WELL ENOUGH TO CALL ME A _ IDIOT! if you have to use harmful words to try and hurt me in some sort of way just to get your point across...You can forget it, I'm not a weak man!
Come on down to Chicago (IL) where I live and I'll show 12% or more Unemployment rate. Homeless shelters are full to the roof, people are being turned away, crime rate has tripled, teenagers are killing one another left and right 24/7, drugs, food pantry lines are wrapped around the building with people needing food to put on the table, churches are unable to help the community - for ever 10 jobs opening, thousand are applying for them. Is this enough Facts for You! If not, then maybe you have a problem.
Here's a little advice for you, take it or leave it...turn the news off - put the news paper down - And go talk to the people that's out of work or just lost their home. This is where I get my information from the working class or unemployed, you should try it some time - you might learn something!
As for my common sense, that I got plenty of! I guess you think it's okay to ship billions to "Iraq" for a war we might not never win. How would that money best serve our education system of building new schools, repairs, more teachers etc (common sense #1) - building better roads and bridges which mean more jobs (common sense #2) - America needs to start manufacturing, creating our own goods again (common sense #3) I could go on but what would be the point _ I'm a idiot like you said!
If man is to serve God, that mean the government is to serve the people, this is why we hold elections. The people didn't make this mess we're in - the people didn't start a war - the people didn't crash the stock market - the people didn't rob the retirement funds, you know the person who did that - Yeah! I could go on but_ I'm a idiot!
Who got us in a war and spending billion's: the Government - Who let the Banks do what Hell they wanted: the Government - Who let our Education fall apart: the Government - Who gave million's to greedy Corporation to throw parties: the Government - Who suppose to get us out of this mess, it sure ain't the people: The Government
Maybe you think it's useless to try do something about changing they way our government has ripped this country apart...but I will not sit idly by and do nothing! Oh I forgot_I'm a idiot!
Yes, I still be nice even when someone else isn't so nice when choosing their words!
Terry Clark