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Title: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jazzy3098 on January 25, 2008, 07:43:38 am
As many of you know recently Fusion Cash made a change to there site.  They did away with the Manual Credit for offers that we have completed but not gotten credit for.  I feel that by what they did was a bad policy and I would like to see Fusion Cash bring back the Manual Credit feature.  I feel it was a good thing to have this and it showed us that there was at least some recourse for us to take.  However now the new policy is simply “if the offer does not credit with in 30 there is nothing they can do.”  So now by telling us this they are simply saying fly at your own risk and they do not care about us or the offers they place on the site. 


By Signing below will let Fusion Cash know that all of us are upset with this new policy and that all of us want Fusion Cash to bring back the Manual Credit and show some responsibility for offers that do not credit
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: destinyredd on January 25, 2008, 07:52:26 am
I agree, that was a nice option, but there's not too many sites
that will mess with the pending offers after so long.   :-X
I'd just like to be able to "clean up" my entire page.  :bunny:
It is a little cluttered.  ::)

Is there like a: Fu$ion broom around?  ;D

Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jazzabell1313 on January 25, 2008, 08:52:38 am
I really can't tell the offers I have done or not I have done a lot on fusion and only been credited for a few ( should I have ones saying there pending?). I really don't know what you mean by manual credit bc I am new here. But am a little disappointed in the fact that I put my time and effort into looking at there offers and surveys that I was interested in and was hoping at the end I was maybe suppose to give my opinion but alls i got was sites trien to offer me things I did not want to buy that had nothing to do with the original offer or promotions I have already done. Sorry just yacking

   jazz
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jazzy3098 on January 25, 2008, 09:24:36 am
Well that is what this poll is all about.  Fusion Cash should be responcible or at least take some responcibility if we do an offer and have proof (ie an email conformaiton) showing that we compleated the offer as per stated.  There needs to be some responcibility to get us the credt for offers that we compleated.  None of us are here to waist our time.  We are all here for one reason.  That reason being to make money not loose money.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: criesenbeck on January 25, 2008, 10:35:14 am
Yes by all means bring it back ..... it is not our fault the sites aren't doing their part!! :crybaby2:
I'm new and would like to continue but NOT if it it's gonna be a big hassle!! :dontknow:  :bs:
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: channiechan562 on January 25, 2008, 11:31:47 am
I would like the manual credit to come back. if people do an offer and it doesn't approve for them and they have a confirmation email for doing the offer, they should get it credit. people put in their time and effort to do the offer and if they don't get paid for doing it, then thats not fair. i know that the advertisers go through a lot when people do the offers and not always see so if we request manual credit, then the people that did the offer will get credit for it. I hope everyone understand what i am trying to say.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: axdatruthxi on January 25, 2008, 11:52:21 am
I completed the poll, and I've only started with FC yesterday, but I think a manual credit request would be great..  I have completed 6 offers today, and haven't gotten credit for any of them, and thats annoying because I've definitely spent the time..

Lets go FC, come through for us..
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jlb001 on January 25, 2008, 03:19:32 pm
jaz, i can feel your pain.

remember that pm you copied and pasted? ..... i specifically remember something along the lines of "false hope" in that reply.... which would suggest the FC really has no power to MAKE a company pay US.

and while that IS important.... its really not their problem.

and while its in their best interest to attempt to appease BOTH sides.... where is their money coming from?

the bottomline is the advertisers ARE NOT here to make us rich.... they are here to gain...... watch this now.....

PAYING CUSTOMERS.

its on the companies to do as they say..... and we to do as we say.

MOST DO..... some dont.

both ways.


Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: lovsevil on January 26, 2008, 12:24:23 pm
Yes, they should bring that option back. In my mind I'm seeing that by taking it away it not only relieves responsibility from FC to see to it that it's users receive credit, but it's bad business. FC posts the offers, maintains the site & deals with the advertisers but if we (the users) cease completing the offers because we do not receive credit, then that creates a landslide that will affect everyone.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: blueeyes66 on January 26, 2008, 06:27:12 pm
i agree with jazzy3098. we here to make money and i spend hours doing offers and surveys. after i have spent all night doing offers and get no credit it really ticks me off. i did a survey once and after 39 min. into the thing it tells me "Thanks" but i'm not what they were looking for. you mean it took 39 min to figure that out! after that length of time i should have gotten something other than a head ache. i don't know how much longer i can spend all my time and get no credit!
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jazzy3098 on January 26, 2008, 08:10:36 pm
i agree with jazzy3098. we here to make money and i spend hours doing offers and surveys. after i have spent all night doing offers and get no credit it really ticks me off. i did a survey once and after 39 min. into the thing it tells me "Thanks" but i'm not what they were looking for. you mean it took 39 min to figure that out! after that length of time i should have gotten something other than a head ache. i don't know how much longer i can spend all my time and get no credit!


Clapping at what you said and a big  :thumbsup:  They need to show us some thing even if it is for an offer that is worth 25 cents.  It is not fair if they do not watch out for us the members of there site.  They say they do not get paid unless we get paid.  Who really belives this???????????  Are you going to tell me they don't get any kind of payment for FC to put a offer on there site.  Come on every one lets ne real.......
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: Administrator on January 27, 2008, 09:00:29 am
There's just no room for the program.

Months, years ago, our partners would pay for a significant portion of the credit requests and do so in a timely manner.

Starting some 6-8 months ago, the entire industry started feeling the "squeeze" as advertisers cut budgets.  The acceptance rate for credit requests has plummeted, and in fact, the vast majority of our partners simply do not accept them anymore.  The rare few that still accept them have very long turnaround times and low approval rates.

This means that we have had to bear the cost of paying for manual credit requests "out of pocket".  This expense has grown too large - we'd have to start dropping our offer payouts or making other cutbacks in order to continue it.  Rather than that, we chose to discontinue the program entirely.

I should also point out that the credit process occurs between your computer and our advertising partner(s).  Our system simply reports what the advertising partners tell us.  If the system fails, it's the fault of the partner(s) and/or your computer.  I don't think it's reasonable to ask us to bear that liability, since the process is entirely out of our control.

It's also in our Terms of Service (https://www.fusioncash.net/tos.php) that you must have a legitimate interest in the offers you complete.  If you are legitimately interested in the offer, then the reward from FusionCash is just a little extra bonus on top (you were INTERESTED in the product, service, website, etc -- remember?).  If you approach the site with that attitude, and a properly configured browser, I doubt you'll be disappointed.

I do appreciate the candid feedback and if it's ever reasonable to reinstate the system we will.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: xDizzle on January 27, 2008, 12:00:32 pm
i agree 100%
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jlb001 on January 27, 2008, 09:57:59 pm

Starting some 6-8 months ago, the entire industry started feeling the "squeeze" as advertisers cut budgets. 

recession has many faces.... none good.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jessicak83 on January 28, 2008, 01:32:03 pm
well, it sounds like the advertisers you have found are just looking for easy ways of getting people to sign up for their spam for free, according to what you said Admin. This is a lovely way for them to get around government spam rules :|

They send out the confirmation emails so we can provide proof that we completed the offers.
We can send you the confirmation emails and you can show the companies.
They should be held accountable for it. They should live up to their end of this deal.
Otherwise its just them scamming us and you getting blamed for it.

As for the
Quote
properly configured browser
, what are you meaning? I'm nowhere near a computer newbie, and all of my properly configured browsers werent getting me credited here so I decided maybe you guys meant completely clean not-adjusted. I have tried a fresh install of IE, Firefox, and Opera and there are still many things not crediting me yet i have an inbox full of emails from them (although completely clean opera seems to be working the best for me, some of your advertisers only want IE users).

As stated in other threads, no matter what we do, there are many advertisers just simply choosing NOT to credit us, but still sending us confirmation emails and 20 spam emails a day. While you get paid and we get nothing. We do everything right and still get nothing from several of them.

Maybe remove the advertisers that can't live up to their end of the deal? We would gladly help you out in figuring out which ones aren't.

While I understand that its not your fault, and I'm enjoying fusioncash, I know that it isn't my fault either. I think it would be nice if you guys got rid of some of the ones known for never crediting anyone.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: destinyredd on January 28, 2008, 02:47:20 pm
The main question I have is:
If the pc didn't stop them from being CHARGED/OBLIGATED for "completing the offer",
how did the pc stop them from "getting completed offer credits?"
I would think that NEITHER would be successfully completed if it was the pc.
Very seldom does anybody complain that they weren't CHARGED and/or
obligated to trial days etc, concurred by fault of their pc.
These Merchants have no problem with the BILLING/APPLYING CHARGES.
(sabotaged by "cookies etc.")  :bs:

This is> :fish: y to me. ::)

So most likely it is the Merchants/Fu$ion's advertising partner(s) issues.
Whether it be that they are scammers etc.,
Fu$ionCa$h should NOT be held accountable for this cost.

BUT since they removed the Manual Credit option:
They should replace it with a: REPORT SCAM OFFER section.
Some scammers do ALLOW SOME to achieve actual credit(s). (known scam strategy)

Then after so many legitimate complaints IE: submit confirmation e-mail/bill/charges etc.
Fu$ion should then BAN them access to this site, in reqards to their current/future participant's time/effort/loss involved.  :crybaby2:

Seeing that it is "the people" that are keeping Fu$ionCa$h alive.  :wave:

P.S. Even if there was no monetary loss for some offers, it costs these people TIME!
TIME IS MONEY.  :angry7:
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: axdatruthxi on January 28, 2008, 03:25:40 pm
Quote
The main question I have is:
If the pc didn't stop them from being CHARGED/OBLIGATED for "completing the offer",
how did the pc stop them from "getting completed offer credits?"
I would think that NEITHER would be successfully completed if it was the pc.
Very seldom does anybody complain that they weren't CHARGED and/or
obligated to trial days etc, by fault of their pc.
This sounds pretty > fish y to me. Roll Eyes

So most likely it is the Merchants/Fu$ion's advertising partner(s) issues.
Whether it be that they are scammers etc.,
Fu$ionCa$h should NOT be held accountable for this cost.

BUT since they removed the Manual Credit option:
They should replace it with a: REPORT SCAM OFFERS section.
Then after so many legitimate complaints IE: submit confirmation e-mail/bill/charges etc.

Fu$ion should then BAN them access to this site in reqards to their current/future participant's time/effort/loss involved.  crybaby2

Seeing that it is "the people" that are keeping Fu$ionCa$h alive.  wave
Here Here!
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jazzy3098 on January 28, 2008, 08:13:06 pm
well, it sounds like the advertisers you have found are just looking for easy ways of getting people to sign up for their spam for free, according to what you said Admin. This is a lovely way for them to get around government spam rules :|

They send out the confirmation emails so we can provide proof that we completed the offers.
We can send you the confirmation emails and you can show the companies.
They should be held accountable for it. They should live up to their end of this deal.
Otherwise its just them scamming us and you getting blamed for it.

As for the
Quote
properly configured browser
, what are you meaning? I'm nowhere near a computer newbie, and all of my properly configured browsers werent getting me credited here so I decided maybe you guys meant completely clean not-adjusted. I have tried a fresh install of IE, Firefox, and Opera and there are still many things not crediting me yet i have an inbox full of emails from them (although completely clean opera seems to be working the best for me, some of your advertisers only want IE users).

As stated in other threads, no matter what we do, there are many advertisers just simply choosing NOT to credit us, but still sending us confirmation emails and 20 spam emails a day. While you get paid and we get nothing. We do everything right and still get nothing from several of them.

Maybe remove the advertisers that can't live up to their end of the deal? We would gladly help you out in figuring out which ones aren't.

While I understand that its not your fault, and I'm enjoying fusioncash, I know that it isn't my fault either. I think it would be nice if you guys got rid of some of the ones known for never crediting anyone.


Here Here................... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jazzy3098 on January 28, 2008, 08:13:36 pm
The main question I have is:
If the pc didn't stop them from being CHARGED/OBLIGATED for "completing the offer",
how did the pc stop them from "getting completed offer credits?"
I would think that NEITHER would be successfully completed if it was the pc.
Very seldom does anybody complain that they weren't CHARGED and/or
obligated to trial days etc, concurred by fault of their pc.
These Merchants have no problem with the BILLING/APPLYING CHARGES.
(sabotaged by "cookies etc.")  :bs:

This is> :fish: y to me. ::)

So most likely it is the Merchants/Fu$ion's advertising partner(s) issues.
Whether it be that they are scammers etc.,
Fu$ionCa$h should NOT be held accountable for this cost.

BUT since they removed the Manual Credit option:
They should replace it with a: REPORT SCAM OFFER section.
Some scammers do ALLOW SOME to achieve actual credit(s). (known scam strategy)

Then after so many legitimate complaints IE: submit confirmation e-mail/bill/charges etc.
Fu$ion should then BAN them access to this site, in reqards to their current/future participant's time/effort/loss involved.  :crybaby2:

Seeing that it is "the people" that are keeping Fu$ionCa$h alive.  :wave:

P.S. Even if there was no monetary loss for some offers, it costs these people TIME!
TIME IS MONEY.  :angry7:

Here Here............ :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jlb001 on January 28, 2008, 10:43:16 pm

BUT since they removed the Manual Credit option:
They should replace it with a: REPORT SCAM OFFER section.
Some scammers do ALLOW SOME to achieve actual credit(s). (known scam strategy)

Then after so many legitimate complaints IE: submit confirmation e-mail/bill/charges etc.
Fu$ion should then BAN them access to this site....

thats not a bad idea.... BUT.... as a company that makes money from advertising for other companies.... you really dont want to *bleep* them off.



Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jazzy3098 on January 28, 2008, 10:48:13 pm

BUT since they removed the Manual Credit option:
They should replace it with a: REPORT SCAM OFFER section.
Some scammers do ALLOW SOME to achieve actual credit(s). (known scam strategy)

Then after so many legitimate complaints IE: submit confirmation e-mail/bill/charges etc.
Fu$ion should then BAN them access to this site....

thats not a bad idea.... BUT.... as a company that makes money from advertising for other companies.... you really dont want to *bleep* them off.






Do you really belive that they(FC) do not make money if we don't make money. Come on now think about it.  Don't you think that they (FC) get some thing up front just for putting there (the offers) add on this site.  Come on my friend be real.  think about it if it was your site what would you require from the companies that want you to place there offers on your site.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jlb001 on January 28, 2008, 10:58:28 pm

Do you really belive that they(FC) do not make money if we don't make money. Come on now think about it.  Don't you think that they (FC) get some thing up front just for putting there (the offers) add on this site.  Come on my friend be real.  think about it if it was your site what would you require from the companies that want you to place there offers on your site.

while i've never owned a site like this, nor looked into the particulars.... i am sure that youre correct.... money is more than likely made on the front and backend sides.

which strengthens my point.

Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jazzy3098 on January 28, 2008, 11:01:43 pm

Do you really belive that they(FC) do not make money if we don't make money. Come on now think about it.  Don't you think that they (FC) get some thing up front just for putting there (the offers) add on this site.  Come on my friend be real.  think about it if it was your site what would you require from the companies that want you to place there offers on your site.

while i've never owned a site like this, nor looked into the particulars.... i am sure that youre correct.... money is more than likely made on the front and backend sides.

which strengthens my point.




And that point is???????
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jlb001 on January 28, 2008, 11:24:02 pm

Do you really belive that they(FC) do not make money if we don't make money. Come on now think about it.  Don't you think that they (FC) get some thing up front just for putting there (the offers) add on this site.  Come on my friend be real.  think about it if it was your site what would you require from the companies that want you to place there offers on your site.

while i've never owned a site like this, nor looked into the particulars.... i am sure that youre correct.... money is more than likely made on the front and backend sides.

which strengthens my point.




And that point is???????

overall?

that theres only so much that fc can do to not to *bleep* off the advertisers, keep us happy.... and make some $.

Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: destinyredd on January 29, 2008, 03:05:07 am

BUT since they removed the Manual Credit option:
They should replace it with a: REPORT SCAM OFFER section.
Some scammers do ALLOW SOME to achieve actual credit(s). (known scam strategy)

Then after so many legitimate complaints IE: submit confirmation e-mail/bill/charges etc.
Fu$ion should then BAN them access to this site....

thats not a bad idea.... BUT.... as a company that makes money from advertising for other companies.... you really dont want to *bleep* them off.






Do you really belive that they(FC) do not make money if we don't make money. Come on now think about it.  Don't you think that they (FC) get some thing up front just for putting there (the offers) add on this site.  Come on my friend be real.  think about it if it was your site what would you require from the companies that want you to place there offers on your site.

I am SURE that Fu$ionCa$h receives an INITIAL amount of money
for ACCEPTING them as their advertising partner(s).

Yet I am AS SURE that IF their advertising partner(s) decline US credit:
they are NOT crediting Fu$ionca$h for that SAME SAID OFFER either. 

Therefore that particular amount would be coming out of THEIR pocket. :angry7:

If you do the math on HOW MANY people participate on this site,
SURLEY the INITIALLY rendured charge couldn't possibly cover the
rate/cost of each subsequently claimed/marked: uncompleted offer(s).

BTW, I'm not only "for real," but I consider myself to be a REALIST in conjunction.  :wave:
So come on my friend, find yourself some LOGIC to validate your claims/accusations.  ;)
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: destinyredd on January 29, 2008, 03:31:12 am

Do you really belive that they(FC) do not make money if we don't make money. Come on now think about it.  Don't you think that they (FC) get some thing up front just for putting there (the offers) add on this site.  Come on my friend be real.  think about it if it was your site what would you require from the companies that want you to place there offers on your site.

while i've never owned a site like this, nor looked into the particulars.... i am sure that youre correct.... money is more than likely made on the front and backend sides.

which strengthens my point.




And that point is???????

overall?

that theres only so much that fc can do to not to *bleep* off the advertisers, keep us happy.... and make some $.



How about their advertising partner(s) need to be concerned as to:
whether they tick Fu$ionCa$h off?

Seeing that THEY are privileged to have the opportunity to have been acknowledged/portrayed as a credible advertising partner(s).  :wave:

Not to mention the ramifications/predicament/loss this imposes upon Fu$ionCa$h,
when dealing with us as JADED participants.  :crybaby2:

This is an issue of PRIORITIES.  :notworthy:

Fu$ionCa$h is known to have LESS advertising partner(s) because of their own
convictions, or they could be receiving even MORE INITIAL payments, by accepting
LESS than credibile advertising partner(s). :wave:

If there is to be a dispute, the advertising partner(s) need to be kept "in check."  ;)
And should be held accountable for renduring less.  :bs:
As WE CAN be BANNED, so should the FAULTY advertising partner(s) be as well.   :bs:

Again, it is "the People" that keep Fu$ionCa$h alive.  :wave:

Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: Kohler on January 29, 2008, 06:13:55 am
We do not recieve any money, in any form or amount, before you do. We are not paid to put up advertisers offers, or have them mentioned on the site. We are paid PER lead. We are not paid, until you are. Now, you can either believe what both Tyler and I said, but please do not continue to make random statements in the dark.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: destinyredd on January 29, 2008, 06:23:26 am
We do not recieve any money, in any form or amount, before you do. We are not paid to put up advertisers offers, or have them mentioned on the site. We are paid PER lead. We are not paid, until you are. Now, you can either believe what both Tyler and I said, but please do not continue to make random statements in the dark.

There you go then!  ;D
Even more of a reason not to advocate/promote/hold Fu$ionCa$h responsible in this matter concerning this poll.  :bs:
Thanx for this clarity Kohler.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: Administrator on January 29, 2008, 06:30:37 am
Maybe remove the advertisers that can't live up to their end of the deal? We would gladly help you out in figuring out which ones aren't.

While I understand that its not your fault, and I'm enjoying fusioncash, I know that it isn't my fault either. I think it would be nice if you guys got rid of some of the ones known for never crediting anyone.
I've said this over and over, but we monitor offer crediting on a daily basis and we DO remove offers that fail to credit.  Every offer on the site has a solid and documented history of crediting for a reasonable/logical percentage of the users who click it.  It may be hard to believe, but consider that people mostly post on here when they are NOT credited rather than when they are.  Also, take a look at some of the threads where people post their list of credited offers and I'm sure you'll find many instances of so-called "offers that never credit" appearing (case in point: FastWeb).
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: destinyredd on January 29, 2008, 06:51:32 am
Maybe remove the advertisers that can't live up to their end of the deal? We would gladly help you out in figuring out which ones aren't.

While I understand that its not your fault, and I'm enjoying fusioncash, I know that it isn't my fault either. I think it would be nice if you guys got rid of some of the ones known for never crediting anyone.
I've said this over and over, but we monitor offer crediting on a daily basis and we DO remove offers that fail to credit.  Every offer on the site has a solid and documented history of crediting for a reasonable/logical percentage of the users who click it.  It may be hard to believe, but consider that people mostly post on here when they are NOT credited rather than when they are.  Also, take a look at some of the threads where people post their list of credited offers and I'm sure you'll find many instances of so-called "offers that never credit" appearing (case in point: FastWeb).

I can attest to this as being true, as I have seen it happen in the past.  :thumbsup:

I was merely suggesting an alternate: "report scam" section, to replace
the recently removed "Manual Credit" option, in hopes of appeasing
some of the participant's aroused by this option change/controversial Poll.  :wave:

BTW, I have completed offers that haven't credited me,  :(
AND I have BEEN credited for others.  ;D

It works for me.  :notworthy:

P.S. I am amongst the 7%, and proud of it.   ;)
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: froggyjoe on January 29, 2008, 07:29:09 am
I was credited for shoe offer :) and got a first time discount saved me 6.00 plus they were fast to credit your account  :thumbsup: still waiting for bidz if not its ok im going to enjoy my win :)
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: Administrator on January 29, 2008, 08:51:48 am
I was merely suggesting an alternate: "report scam" section, to replace
the recently removed "Manual Credit" option, in hopes of appeasing
some of the participant's aroused by this option change/controversial Poll.  :wave:
Our contracts prohibit portraying advertisers in a negative light.  Having a "report scam" option falls under that category (in my view, at least).  If you feel that you were mistreated by an advertiser, feel free to open a support ticket and let us know -- we record complaints and act on them, too.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: destinyredd on January 29, 2008, 09:13:02 am
I was merely suggesting an alternate: "report scam" section, to replace
the recently removed "Manual Credit" option, in hopes of appeasing
some of the participant's aroused by this option change/controversial Poll.  :wave:
Our contracts prohibit portraying advertisers in a negative light.  Having a "report scam" option falls under that category (in my view, at least).  If you feel that you were mistreated by an advertiser, feel free to open a support ticket and let us know -- we record complaints and act on them, too.

I would open a ticket if I was that adamant concerning any declined credit. As I'm sure it would be addressed. ;)
My input concerning this particular Poll, is based on the fact that it has been fully blown out of proportion.  ::)

How about an "Iggy entire Poll" option button?  ;D *giggles*
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jazzy3098 on January 29, 2008, 09:26:15 am
I was merely suggesting an alternate: "report scam" section, to replace
the recently removed "Manual Credit" option, in hopes of appeasing
some of the participant's aroused by this option change/controversial Poll.  :wave:
Our contracts prohibit portraying advertisers in a negative light.  Having a "report scam" option falls under that category (in my view, at least).  If you feel that you were mistreated by an advertiser, feel free to open a support ticket and let us know -- we record complaints and act on them, too.

I would open a ticket if I was that adamant concerning any declined credit. As I'm sure it would be addressed ;)
My input concerning this particular Poll, is based on the fact that it has been fully blown out of proportion.  ::)

How about an "Iggy entire Poll" option button?  ;D *giggles*



Hay now that isn't right.  LOL  It just seems that out of 87 people who have voted sofar 87.4% of the people on here think that Fusion Cash Should take responcibility and bring back Manual Credit.  ;D That is 76 people sofar.  I would say that is a over whelming amout of people who are upset that FC has taken away the manual credit.  :crybaby2:

This thread has been alive for only 4 days and look at the responce it has gotten over 467 views 32 posts 87 votes.  :wave: It maybe contraversial but I would say it is showing how we all feel atleast the majarity of people on this site feel. 


 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: Administrator on January 29, 2008, 10:11:10 am
The poll doesn't really prove anything at all, except that most people seem to prefer more money to less money (a shocker indeed). 

I've attempted to explain the motivation behind the decision.  I understand that many of you want MCs back, but FusionCash is a business and not a democracy.  As such, we have to make business decisions with the ultimate motive being that of profit.  It's my goal to balance the needs of users and advertisers, but it is not as easy as it looks.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: ksword on January 29, 2008, 11:23:19 am
hey watsgoin on everybody? :wave:
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: ksword on January 29, 2008, 11:25:18 am
hey watsup everybody...... :wave:
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jamie548 on January 29, 2008, 07:00:02 pm
As many of you know recently Fusion Cash made a change to there site.  They did away with the Manual Credit for offers that we have completed but not gotten credit for.  I feel that by what they did was a bad policy and I would like to see Fusion Cash bring back the Manual Credit feature.  I feel it was a good thing to have this and it showed us that there was at least some recourse for us to take.  However now the new policy is simply “if the offer does not credit with in 30 there is nothing they can do.”  So now by telling us this they are simply saying fly at your own risk and they do not care about us or the offers they place on the site. 


By Signing below will let Fusion Cash know that all of us are upset with this new policy and that all of us want Fusion Cash to bring back the Manual Credit and show some responsibility for offers that do not credit

Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jlb001 on January 29, 2008, 09:14:53 pm
The poll doesn't really prove anything at all, except that most people seem to prefer more money to less money (a shocker indeed). 

I've attempted to explain the motivation behind the decision.  I understand that many of you want MCs back, but FusionCash is a business and not a democracy.  As such, we have to make business decisions with the ultimate motive being that of profit.  It's my goal to balance the needs of users and advertisers, but it is not as easy as it looks.

 ;D
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: Hardtimer on February 01, 2008, 11:16:53 am
Quote
author=Kohler link=topic=1743.msg16890#msg16890 date=1201616035]
We do not recieve any money, in any form or amount, before you do. We are not paid to put up advertisers offers, or have them mentioned on the site. We are paid PER lead. We are not paid, until you are. Now, you can either believe what both Tyler and I said, but please do not continue to make random statements in the dark.

In other words,  it is not FC's fault, they did the right thing by pulling the manual credit. Like I said in another post, think about the logic of how many people tried to throw out false information to get credit and FC gave it thinking it was viable proof, which, is only copied and pasted!, without even themself getting paid yet. They paid "out of pocket" and it is amazing the things people can do these days with a pc to scam a site. I like Fushion Cash and it is the best GPT site I have been on, so far.

I take an honest intent reply from FC to be better than us not being told anything at all.   And, by far that makes me know they do care about those who come here and do offers.

Hope everyone really thinks about it and perhaps you'll get your credit soon for offers you did before this. Goodluck all and have a great weekend. :wave:
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: GnomeyTheNinja on February 03, 2008, 12:12:54 pm
Just a suggestion but it shouldn't be too hard to create a system that when credited, it adds a number to a count on the offer. Sorry for being vague... This is how it would work:

1. Fill out an offer.
2. When it credits, add 1 to the count.
3. Have a submit feature so when you finish the offer you must click the button. Make it one click per user per offer.
4. What your left with is 2 counts: How many people completed this offer, and how many got credited for this offer.

If someone could figure out a better way to word this I'd appreciate it but it made sense in my head I swear. lol

It seems like a good idea to me, any thoughts on this?
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: Administrator on February 04, 2008, 03:06:26 am
Unfortunately, such a measure is not reliable/useful for a few reasons, including:
a) people lie
b) people think they completed the offer but did not actually meet the requirements (for example, winning an auction at Bidz.com but not paying for it)
c) people complete offers without clicking the "I completed it" button
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: iluvanime on February 04, 2008, 05:24:45 am
 :wave:
All I know is I completed the ArcMaxJoke one and that still has not credited. I am getting my daily jokes tho(that's convenient...not). I know I am new but when these offers are completed on our end(and we have proof we completed them), and we don't get credit(y'all are still getting paid but we have to forget about it)... So we basically are just wasting our time while FC is getting paid by the advertiser to have their ads posted here/per click(not in so many words FC is gettin paid but we may not)???? :angry7: :BangHead:
Just does not seem right. :sad1: But hey I only live in this world. :dontknow:
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jlb001 on February 04, 2008, 07:10:25 am
well, if i was the KING OF THE INTERNET.... i'd....

oh, wait a minute.

i am the king.

nevermind.

JLB ~ KING OF THE INTERNET!!!!!!!  :cat:
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: froggyjoe on February 04, 2008, 11:20:31 am
you rock :notworthy:
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: Administrator on February 05, 2008, 12:11:12 am
:wave:
All I know is I completed the ArcMaxJoke one and that still has not credited. I am getting my daily jokes tho(that's convenient...not). I know I am new but when these offers are completed on our end(and we have proof we completed them), and we don't get credit(y'all are still getting paid but we have to forget about it)... So we basically are just wasting our time while FC is getting paid by the advertiser to have their ads posted here/per click(not in so many words FC is gettin paid but we may not)???? :angry7: :BangHead:
Just does not seem right. :sad1: But hey I only live in this world. :dontknow:
The entire point of the thread is that we do not get paid unless you do.  It's very simple -- the advertiser issues credit, and your FusionCash account is automatically updated if/when that happens.  We get zero compensation just for having ads or sending clicks -- we only get paid when you meet the 'requirements' listed and it reports back to us.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: ODOMS6598 on February 18, 2008, 06:18:04 pm
  YES  BRING BACK MANUAL CREDIT..  IT'S ONLY FAIR TO US..  THANKS FC  YOURE THE BEST...
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: jlb001 on February 18, 2008, 09:15:15 pm
  YES  BRING BACK MANUAL CREDIT..  IT'S ONLY FAIR TO US..  THANKS FC  YOURE THE BEST...

it would have been a good idea to read the three pages before this one before you posted that.

 :thumbsup:

JLB ~ helping people is what i do.

:cat:
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: thebananarepublican on February 04, 2009, 01:26:41 pm
We are asked to show respect, and give our time. The same should be done by those who ask it of us. No one likes to spend there time and not be compensated.

Peace.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: drehustler on February 04, 2009, 01:36:06 pm
that would be nice so i can keep myself organized a little better.
(http://www.fusioncash.net/sig.php/f676e0299063.png) (http://www.fusioncash.net/?ref=drehustler)
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: FarleyGuy on March 24, 2009, 04:18:39 pm
I don't think Fusion Cash should have to pay because a site didn't credit correctly. I mean Fusion Cash is here doing us a favor. They cannot help that the sites arent working correctly.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: Blacktrigger on March 27, 2009, 01:32:06 am
No they dont wanna cheap out the creditors
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: angel33girl on April 16, 2009, 11:11:14 pm
i agree if you advertise something you should stand behind it i have signed up for several things didnt get credit for it i even sent proof that i signed up and all i got was not fusion cash problem says it is their system well isnt fusion cash responsible for their system  on the home page it says
FusionCash pays you to take surveys, enter contests, request free samples, and more! it dosnt say the advertisers pay you it says fusion cash would this mean false advertising on fusion cash side then in faq How does FusionCash work?
Simple! You sign up and complete any number of offers (we have hundreds, ranging from surveys to free trials and credit cards). Then, you "cash out" your balance and get paid by your preferred method.  How can you afford this?
The advertisers pay us to send them potential customers. This form of marketing is much more effective than standard advertising, because they pay only for fully acquired customers. There is no wasted advertising money as there is in traditional advertising, such as TV or radio spots (here it says the advertisers pay fusion cash not advertisers pay fusion cash members)
We feel that 180 days is an adequate time to cashout your funds, since the minimum for payment is low and you can easily reach it by completing no-credit-card-required offers. this is easy for fusion cash to say but not as easy when you dont get credited for your sign ups
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: heather177 on June 02, 2009, 08:02:05 pm
Yes bring it back!
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: cdanunzio on August 12, 2009, 10:59:04 am
it is very discouraging to spend a great deal of time to receive no recognition in return.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: whatsgood5 on August 12, 2009, 11:38:41 am
Obviously I like the idea, but it seems like It'd be stupid for them to bring it back, just my opinion though.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: MrsTBarber on September 19, 2009, 10:34:30 am
Although I am new here I totally agree that it should be brought back. I've completed many surveys but did not get credit because I refused to purchase anything.  :BangHead:
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: PMZ908 on September 19, 2009, 10:56:01 am
for the last 2 weeks everyday i completed the  daily offers and i qualify and get the completed message and i have not got any credit, and im pissed  
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: afroach on November 08, 2009, 05:39:41 am
Yes please bring it back.
       Annette
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: angel379227 on January 25, 2010, 01:59:25 pm
I think the staff's reasoning behind doing away with manual credit is sound and quite clear from a business standpoint, and I applaud them for maintaining such professional composure in the face of this onslaught of protests.

My problem is likely at the base of many of these problems, and it's something you actually can rectify. I recently signed up for that free trial at Stamps.com, and never got my fusion cash for it. After doing some searching on your forums, I see that many other people have had the same issues, which is how I came about this thread. While I understand perfectly your reasoning behind doing away with manual credit, what I don't understand is why you keep dealing with these websites that keep jerking around so many of your members!

Any input on that would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: savannabarlow on March 25, 2010, 08:55:05 pm
i agree!!
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: Alphasee on March 25, 2010, 09:57:26 pm
It's back. It's through the special offers section, HERE (http://"http://www.fusioncash.net/specialoffers.php").

If you're worried about the offers on the main page not having a manual credit process, then don't do those ones. The special offers are crappier deals and aren't worth your time if they aren't approved the first time through, so good luck.

If you're not instantly getting approved for the ones that say "instantly credits", then you're doing something wrong. Bad browser settings, wrong browser type, plugins, virus protection interference, etc. Every offer I've done on my "test" computer (ie7, no security software, limited user account on windows XP, all cookies allowed), I get approved EVERY single time. It's just a fact. For the less than 1% of  the time that something does go wrong that isn't your computer, don't fight it, it's free money anyways.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: breezyage on April 12, 2010, 02:35:44 am
Yes, I agree.

  I've had 4 offers not being credited from th special offers page. All I was told was that the advirtiser didnt have a record of my completion. I've done all 4 at least 3 times, because it just wouldn't credit. I have emails and telemarketing calls but no credit. it's just not fair. I thought, I would get to check out cool offers while getting a nice credit. Instead I get telemarketers, spam and a waste of time without credit.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: apatel12 on May 17, 2010, 01:39:48 pm
I'm definitely signing this. Already 2 of my offers have NOT credited when I FULLY fulfilled the requirements. It was the Babylon toolbar and the Instant $20 survey. Hope they get fixed. :P :P :P
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: cjppsb123 on May 17, 2010, 01:57:00 pm
 i have to agree (=
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: Hajara_22 on August 01, 2010, 08:05:02 pm
I have enjoyed fusion cash for some time now and technology doesnt always work right. i agree to bring back the manual credit option because if you put a price on something that someone is spending their valuable time on then they should get the credit for the price that was put on it(as long as it is completed correctly) technology glitches and has errors that only real humans can correct...
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: Vietlazed on August 01, 2010, 08:06:08 pm
i agree with you
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: girlswin2 on August 01, 2010, 09:44:10 pm
I really can't tell the offers I have done or not I have done a lot on fusion and only been credited for a few ( should I have ones saying there pending?). I really don't know what you mean by manual credit bc I am new here. But am a little disappointed in the fact that I put my time and effort into looking at there offers and surveys that I was interested in and was hoping at the end I was maybe suppose to give my opinion but alls i got was sites trien to offer me things I did not want to buy that had nothing to do with the original offer or promotions I have already done. Sorry just yacking

   jazz

Thats why with each new month I use something different with the smiley faces etc.  Like last month I use  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :wave: :peace:  Cheesy yes but it helps to pick out what I did from each month.  Otherwise start typing in the date
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: dell9031 on August 01, 2010, 09:53:02 pm
sure.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: sweetytdk on October 21, 2010, 11:31:05 pm
I am sorry if I sound slow, but I really do not know what I am doing or I am not being credited for my work. I really can't tell the offers I have done or not I have done a lot on fusion and only been credited for a few. I really don't know what you mean by manual credit bc I am new here. But am a little disappointed in the fact that I put my time and effort into looking at there offers and surveys that I was interested in and was hoping at the end I was maybe suppose to give my opinion, but not so; the companies are just offering me things I did not want to buy that had nothing to do with the offer or promotions I have already done. So if what you are asking us to vote for means that once we do the surveys and do not get credited for what we do then will be booted off that sounds good to me.  ??? 

Please can I get some help!!!!! :angel11: 

Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: udontgetmyname on October 24, 2010, 12:38:46 pm
Completely agree, new here, and to many offers dont credit. It makes some think its a scam and leave, I know better. However it's still very annoying
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: ppv2 on October 24, 2010, 01:43:26 pm
What a great idea!
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: angesus on November 11, 2010, 05:01:10 pm
manual credit would be a plus! but I don't think that they'll do it no matter how many people sign this.  ::)
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: beckybaker81 on May 10, 2011, 10:23:46 am
Hello!  I'm new to FC (as of yesterday!).  I'm not sure what manual credit is, however, after reading down through this topic...I would think it is good to bring back.  I've done TONS of offers, surveys, etc with FC over the past day, and only a small hand-full has been credited to me.  I'm not sure if I completed some of them correctly, but ones I KNOW I completed correctly is still "pending"....what's with that?  I thought it was instant credit.  With all the ones pending, it makes it very difficult to reach the $25/cash out.  Please let me know how I can get credit for all the offers I've completed.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: lynnc35 on May 10, 2011, 04:03:37 pm
I know what you are saying, when I first started on here, I never got paid the seven dollars from a company, I told fusion cash, but there was nothing they could do about it, simply because the offer did not pay. So I think if they cannot bring the manuel credit back because the money has to come from somewhere, well the other couse of action would be to weed out these people that do not pay. I believe FusionCash to be a reputable site and it would be reputable to do the responsible thing and weed out companies that are scams. I would make them be responsible and if i had a number of complaints on them(where we could fill out a form, with proper information) and if it come through that they are doing this to a number of people, tell them they can no longer be a part of this site. and that is my two cents worth.
Also I feel the pain on the surveys, they should only be able to go so far with a survey, in other words, perhaps 3 minutes or so, to figure out what they need to know whether you qualify or not. Then you should be locked into the survey as long as you complete it. But I have to add this, this is another thing that the only way fusion cash can control is banning the companies that do this, as these surveys are on all sites, and do not just do them for fusion cash, they do the same thing to you no matter who you fill them out for.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: Thumper18 on June 07, 2011, 11:40:03 am
I think it would be a great idea. If we put in the time to complete the offer someone should compensate us for our time even if the company didnt "approve" it.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: Jasmine81 on June 09, 2011, 03:55:38 pm
I think it would be a great idea. If we put in the time to complete the offer someone should compensate us for our time even if the company didnt "approve" it.

I agree.  Yes, we do complete the offer because we have some sort of interest, but the whole idea or concept of this site and other GPT Sites is to make money for completing offers.  I know when I don't get credit for taking my time to complete an offer, I get a little discouraged.  So I think that it would be a great idea.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: christinamercury on July 02, 2011, 05:27:43 pm
yes! completely COMPLETELY, WITHOUT A DOUBT AGREE. IT ANGERS ME SOO MUCH TO DEDICATE MY VALUABLE TIME AND EFFORTS (SOMETIMES 30 MINUTES A SURVEY) JUST TO REALIZE I DON'T GET ANY TYPE OF REWARD FOR IT, AND ALL I WANTED WAS A COUPLE CENTS. -____-
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: christinamercury on July 02, 2011, 05:30:31 pm
reSPONSIBLE. RESPONSIBILITY. smh
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: christinamercury on July 02, 2011, 05:31:35 pm
CONFIRMATION. CON- FIR - MATION. smh
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: christinamercury on July 02, 2011, 05:40:27 pm
jaz, i can feel your pain.

remember that pm you copied and pasted? ..... i specifically remember something along the lines of "false hope" in that reply.... which would suggest the FC really has no power to MAKE a company pay US.

and while that IS important.... its really not their problem.

and while its in their best interest to attempt to appease BOTH sides.... where is their money coming from?

the bottomline is the advertisers ARE NOT here to make us rich.... they are here to gain...... watch this now.....

PAYING CUSTOMERS.

its on the companies to do as they say..... and we to do as we say.

MOST DO..... some dont.

both ways.




if im not mistaken i thought that the company doesn't pay us directly... i thought companies pay fusion cash for their services and fusion cash pays us for OUR services.?
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: rambertk on July 02, 2011, 08:25:20 pm
YES, definitely bring it back!
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: glenda1bruce on July 30, 2011, 07:18:59 pm
 I agree it should be brought back.  If the offers are not going to work we should get our credit anyways.  There has to be a way to tell if the individual completed an offer or not.  Maybe they were having to many that where getting the manual credit and really didnt to the offer, I am not sure but I know there has to be another way so no body looses out.
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: al2508 on September 03, 2011, 03:43:25 pm
I agree with this. I mean I am new to this site and within a week, two offers I did did not credit so I could imagine for some people who have had many many offers do this!
Title: Re: Bring Back Manual Credit Petition
Post by: Administrator on September 05, 2011, 05:32:41 am
Guys, this topic was created in January 2008, two and a half years ago.  I realize that the idea of manual credit is nice, but realistically it's not something we can provide (as evidenced by the fact that we removed it in 2007).  I am going to lock this topic now and let it finally retire after such a long run.