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I am against abortion because it is unjust to kill a unborn child; however, when it comes to a rape situation, i believe the victim might should have a choice.
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Uugh! I can't stand the idea of abortion. There are thousands of women around in the world in need of a child because they can't have one. If there is one woman who doesn't want their child then put the child up for adoption. That's the best thing any woman can do.
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Uugh! I can't stand the idea of abortion. There are thousands of women around in the world in need of a child because they can't have one. If there is one woman who doesn't want their child then put the child up for adoption. That's the best thing any woman can do.
In the US alone, there are an average of 120-130 THOUSAND children available for adoption every year. (according to statistics from 2000-2006; couldn't find more recent ones http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/stats_research/afcars/waiting2006.htm ) If those women want children so badly, they can adopt one of them instead. A child shouldn't have to be a newborn to be worthy of adoption and love.
And I am for the right to abortion, though I personally wouldn't have an abortion myself unless there were extenuating circumstances. But I wouldn't want to deny abortions to those who want them, either. What I am most worried about though, is if the government outlaws abortions, except for rape/incest/health reasons, then later they will change it to include those as well. (That would be a major step back for women.) I'd rather allow others to have the freedom to do something I wouldn't do and generally disapprove of, than to chance losing freedom for the parts I do agree with. Also, I believe that only women have the right to decide; a man should not be able to decide until they gain the ability to become pregnant and give birth themselves.
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I am definitely against abortion. It is murder, against a victim that can't even defend himself/ herself. Since when does anyone have a right to take another person's life, when that person hasn't done anything wrong? In rape situations there are procedures done at hospitals that prevent conception if done within 24 hours.
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Well, since abortion is murder, I'll have to go with against. :
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i feel that women should have the right to choose what they want to do. and if there are women out there that want kids but can't have them then they should adopt. there are plenty of children out there in need of loving families. and don't be afraid to adopt older kids. people tend to look past them and they usually age out of the system with no place to go.
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I am against abortion because it is unjust to kill a unborn child; however, when it comes to a rape situation, i believe the victim might should have a choice.
This is a very touchy topic but yes, I agree. If it's a case of rape or incest, absolutely.
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I think it is the woman's right to choose. It would not be fair for a child to have to live a horrible life because the mother did not have the choice. I see kids on the news every week who just want a family to love them. Many people who are against abortions say that there are plenty of people who would adopt a baby, but is that fair to the tons of children in the world who don't have parents, who want to be adopted. I live close to DC and I see on the news people who beat their children nearly to death because they didn't want the child in the first place. How the heck is this fair to the child? Then, other children get put in foster homes because the parents couldn't take care of them. What happens to them? They get beaten to death and thrown in a freezer while the woman collects a check for keeping the children. I just wish that the mother would have had an abortion in this situation, so these children wouldn't have had to be put through this horror. I got pregnant at 18 and I never contemplated having an abortion. I knew I could find a way to support my child. I knew I would protect my child at all costs, but there are some people out there that may just not be able to handle it.
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God gave us freedom of choice. I am personally against it but I dont have the right to tell anyone else how to live.
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I personally wouldn't get one but I believe a woman has the right to choose what she feels is right for her.
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Totally against abortion. That is killing a creation of God's. There are so many people that can't have children that would love to adopt and the thought of someone having an abortion when the baby could be adopted. People need to stop and consider the consequences so abortion isn't even in the picture.
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I'm 110% for it. More people should get them. Some people walking around today should have been aborted.
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I am defintely against abortion. The bible says tho shall not kill. Im with that.
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I believe it is a personal choice..And I believe being that persons body and choice that no one should take it away..There are things and times when abortion is a necessity..Example..I had a good friend who had gotten pregnant and well the pregnancy was really tough and the baby was not thriving and her and her babies life were on the balance her option was to abort or risk having a stillborn and risk her not surviving so I have to say the choice should be left up to individual..And no judgment should be passed it is a hard thing to go through and well it is something the individual struggles with even when it is not in their hands..
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Uugh! I can't stand the idea of abortion. There are thousands of women around in the world in need of a child because they can't have one. If there is one woman who doesn't want their child then put the child up for adoption. That's the best thing any woman can do.
In the US alone, there are an average of 120-130 THOUSAND children available for adoption every year. (according to statistics from 2000-2006; couldn't find more recent ones http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/stats_research/afcars/waiting2006.htm ) If those women want children so badly, they can adopt one of them instead. A child shouldn't have to be a newborn to be worthy of adoption and love.
And I am for the right to abortion, though I personally wouldn't have an abortion myself unless there were extenuating circumstances. But I wouldn't want to deny abortions to those who want them, either. What I am most worried about though, is if the government outlaws abortions, except for rape/incest/health reasons, then later they will change it to include those as well. (That would be a major step back for women.) I'd rather allow others to have the freedom to do something I wouldn't do and generally disapprove of, than to chance losing freedom for the parts I do agree with. Also, I believe that only women have the right to decide; a man should not be able to decide until they gain the ability to become pregnant and give birth themselves.
This is so so so true.
Also, did you guys know that the legalization of abortions lowered crime rates over time?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_effect
Forcing children on a woman that doesn't want them not only raises the crime rate, but think of what some of the children might have to go through? Sometimes they're even better off dead.
http://www.violentacres.com/archives/69/the-most-merciful-death-is-baby-death/
And did you ever think about how disgustingly overpopulated the world already is?
And really, there's more to it than just "oh, put it up for adoption." There's nine months of all sorts of pain for a child you then have to give away. Risking your life, even. No one should have to go through that. Especially for you people who say it's not okay even for rape victims. Rape is traumatic enough and then you want to make them go through a traumatic pregnancy as well? You have to be completely evil to want t force that on a woman.
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I am against it and if you are sexually active you should take precautions against it. If you don't want a baby, then don't have sex or use a contraceptive. :thumbsup:
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I think it is the woman's right to choose. It would not be fair for a child to have to live a horrible life because the mother did not have the choice. I see kids on the news every week who just want a family to love them. Many people who are against abortions say that there are plenty of people who would adopt a baby, but is that fair to the tons of children in the world who don't have parents, who want to be adopted. I live close to DC and I see on the news people who beat their children nearly to death because they didn't want the child in the first place. How the heck is this fair to the child? Then, other children get put in foster homes because the parents couldn't take care of them. What happens to them? They get beaten to death and thrown in a freezer while the woman collects a check for keeping the children. I just wish that the mother would have had an abortion in this situation, so these children wouldn't have had to be put through this horror. I got pregnant at 18 and I never contemplated having an abortion. I knew I could find a way to support my child. I knew I would protect my child at all costs, but there are some people out there that may just not be able to handle it.
Absolutely agree :thumbsup:
I believe it is a personal choice..And I believe being that persons body and choice that no one should take it away..There are things and times when abortion is a necessity..Example..I had a good friend who had gotten pregnant and well the pregnancy was really tough and the baby was not thriving and her and her babies life were on the balance her option was to abort or risk having a stillborn and risk her not surviving so I have to say the choice should be left up to individual..And no judgment should be passed it is a hard thing to go through and well it is something the individual struggles with even when it is not in their hands..
Once again,, I agree completely :thumbsup:
I think the woman has the right to do what she wants to do to her body. Period. I personally would never do it, unless I was put in a situation that I had no control over, like rape, or possibility of losing both my baby and myself. And I would NEVER judge anyone for doing it. Its your right as a woman, as an American to make that decision.
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I am against abortion because it is unjust to kill a unborn child; however, when it comes to a rape situation, i believe the victim might should have a choice.
i agree. i wouldnt want to have a child i didnt want..from a man i didnt love or maybe even didnt know.
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I've had one, but I didn't have much of a choice. I had a baby inside me that was not thriving but would not pass on its own. My choice was to either have the D&C or to risk trying to allow the pregnancy to pass on its own, risk not being able to become pregnant again, and risk serious health to myself. Now I have a beautiful 2 year old daughter. And, before anyone asks, I was in a monogamous relationship with my husband and we wanted desperately to have a child. We had to make the best decision possible for ourselves.
Two years before that, I was raped, and my faith was shaken. The rapist didn't use a condom, and my period was late. I knew without a doubt that there was no way I could carry the child should I be pregnant. Thankfully, I wasn't. The same wasn't true for a very close friend of mine...she became pregnant as a result of her rape. She had an abortion, and now she has a beautiful daughter that she loves more than life itself.
Abortion, firstly, is a very misleading term, but I'm not here to debate semantics. It is a very difficult thing to decide to terminate a pregnancy; one that NO ONE can make in advance, and to deny anyone the opportunity to make the decision for themselves based on the personal moral politics of someone who has never dealt with the situation firsthand is wrong. Period.
So many people tout "take responsibility for your actions" and using condoms, birth control, or abstinence. This isn't realistic without comprehensive sex education. Using a condom isn't going to do much good if neither party knows how to correctly use a condom. How many Bristol Palins are out there in the world whose parents are telling them to not have sex until they are married, and then they become pregnant and feel that they have to get married because "it is the right thing to do?" How many of those teens who get pregnant tell the guy they are pregnant and are abandoned? How many would physically harm themselves to keep from telling their judgmental parents they were pregnant or to avoid a "shotgun wedding?"
This question isn't as narrow as it may seem. If you want to debate viability, ok. I'll bite. If you want to debate when a pregnancy becomes a human being with individual rights, ok, I'll bite. But in the final analysis, it doesn't matter a bit what I say...each woman deserves the right to decide for themselves when faced with this: http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
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Some people walking around today should have been aborted.
it sounds harsh, but it really is the truth!
i'm pro-choice, for a number of reasons.
by the way, this should be in the debate section of the forum.
dead-end discussions will inevitably rile up some feathers.
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I am totally AGAINST abortion! If you dont want children fine.....Use birth control.....and it is free!!!! Visit your local health department!
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i am against it 100%
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I find it contradictory to say that it's murder, but it's OK in rape cases. The supposed child would still be a life too. Anyway, I find that we should care more about those that are alive now rather those that aren't in this world. It's a woman's body and she has every right to do what she likes. If abortion gets illegalized women will still find a way, only this time they'll be punished for a decision that is rightly there's to choose.
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im in the middle i dnt like abortion at all but in some situtions it might be best like a raped victim or incest cases
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I am against abortion except in the case of rape of incest.
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Yes iam against abortion,take me for instance we are waiting for children all the time,there are so many people like me who are trying to have their one.i believe having a chiid is a god blessing for everyone
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Yes iam against abortion,take me for instance we are waiting for children all the time,there are so many people like me who are trying to have their one.i believe having a chiid is a god blessing for everyone
Including people that have serial killers? They were blessings to their parents and society in general? One person's choice to have an abortion has absolutely nothing to do with your desire to have a child.
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Definately against. Murder is wrong!
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I am definitely PRO LIFE... except for like, twice.
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I wouldn't do it myself, but I believe a woman should decide what's best for herself. :peace:
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im totally against abortions because i think that if you don't want kids you should do something to prevent u from havin them and i think that if i was a rape victim i would keep mah babii because even after i get rid of it, it still wouldn't change the fact that i was raped or i might put it up for adoption :dontknow: but thats just me
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I do not think that abortion is right. Why punish a child for something? I have mixed feelings about rape and incest though and do not really know where to stand on that one.
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Against, it's a irresponsible action except for in the case of being rape.
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I am definitely against abortion. It is murder, against a victim that can't even defend himself/ herself. Since when does anyone have a right to take another person's life, when that person hasn't done anything wrong? In rape situations there are procedures done at hospitals that prevent conception if done within 24 hours.
It is not full proof...my friends 14 year old sister was raped and had this done to her within 6 hours of the incident.
She was told that it was 99% full proof and she still got pregnant and was told her options to have or abort.
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I am against it and if you are sexually active you should take precautions against it. If you don't want a baby, then don't have sex or use a contraceptive. :thumbsup:
Contraceptives fail. My boyfriend and I have had a condom break and one slide off and we probably only ever used less that 30 of them. And yeah, we were using them correctly and they weren't expired. We just had bad luck. I'm on the pill now, but some people can't get on the pill because they smoke. Maybe smoking is a bad decision and all, but they still can't get on the pill and it's not so simple to quit smoking just to get on it.
I am definitely against abortion. It is murder, against a victim that can't even defend himself/ herself. Since when does anyone have a right to take another person's life, when that person hasn't done anything wrong? In rape situations there are procedures done at hospitals that prevent conception if done within 24 hours.
Yeah. Because rape victims go to hospitals within 24 hours. You clearly have no idea at all how a woman in a situation like that typically feels. So so so many of them don't go to the hospital. They don't go to the police. They keep quiet. If they do go to someone about it, it's not always within 24 hours, either.
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This is a dilemma my sister faces. She doesn't want kids and nor would I ever like to see her with children, because she has no patients and isn't very motherly.
She has always stated she didn't want any.
Her best friend didn't want children as well went to the doctor asked if she could get her part removed to make
sure she would not have children, but was denied because she has to have a better reason then her not wanting kids.
The doctor put her on the pill and she used condoms during sex and when she felt she had a oops she took the morning after pill.
She did everything possible to ensure that her and her husband wouldn't get pregnant and now she is 3 months pregnant.
She is having the baby, but isn't happy about it.
It's unfair to bring a child in the world that is not wanted and that will have to wait in line for parents to adopt them.
Sometimes children don't get adopted because people are picky and want cute kids, kids that fit their looks, kids who aren't past certain ages.
It's a tough and miserable process at times.
It's unfair that the unborn child to be denied it's life, but I have had an abortion.
Do I regret it? Yes!! Do I live with the pain and do I torment myself YES!
I was 17 years old going through chemo for osteosorcoma aka bone cancer, I was raped by an ex boyfriend and became pregnant.
I was hurt, lost sick and upset.
You can sit here and say... well you could have gone to the hospital right after I did.
My doctor advised it was in my best interest to think things out because certain medications would clash and cause me to die..
Did I want to die at age 17 ? No!
You can say well you should have left it in the hands of god?
Why would I want to torment myself and a baby inside me . What happens if I die and my baby died?
I thought that and ran everything in my head.
Is it fair to me to carry a child in my stomach for 9 months because I was raped?
Do I risk my life and it's life so people won't judge me?
I kept my pregnancy from my family and took the abortion pill mifeprex or something of that nature.
My friends took me to get it done and everything that happened was hidden from family.
Why? Because I was ashamed...I let him get away with it and I didn't want to deal with the issue.
The cops didn't ask me much because I claimed I didn't know who did it and I honestly didn't want to handle the issue for months to years.
I was battling cancer I didn't want to battle a drunk/ high Ahole who ruined a part of me.
So being that I was of legal age 17 turning 18 I didn't have to consult family and had a friend with me.
I went home and my family just thought I was jumped.
I was told the baby wouldn't have formed based on the type of chemo I had and the medications.
Do I care if I am judged by others? No, because they were not in my shoes and don't know that the biggest judge of all is God and I come second.
I have already tortured myself for years about this and I still stand with my opinion.
I do agree with abortion, but I would hope that people really think about it before doing it!
But even still it lingers in my head what if?
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@Synthetic: If you were told that the baby wouldn't have formed then it's better that you had an abortion. Why feel bad about it? I understand that that's something that can be really emotional, but that is not your fault at all. Are you feeling bad because your sister chose to keep her baby or because someone has hassled you about it? :[
I'm sorry that you and your sister have to go through that. I hope the doctor that denied her the right to have that surgery feels really bad. :
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My sister has not had a child, she is still celebant. Her friend is currently pregnant and went through every method to not have a baby. She wants an abortion..
My choice was made and I felt it was right for me. It hurts because I look at my 3 daughters right now and appreciate life but still wonder what could have been?
My daughters mean the world to me and I am a young mother. I got married at 19 and am still married it's been 5 years now. I love the life I have and I wouldn't change anything.
I just wish the situation was never presented in my life.
It's a tough choice to make and more so when your 17 years old. It's not a easy situation to deal with and when your raised in a very catholic home things like these are shunned upon.
My family knows my choice now and they were upset and out relationship has changed.
But the way I see it is, I was raped I wasn't a sexually active teen I was simply a dumb teen who trusted someone because they claimed to care and took advantage of the unhealthy state I was in.
My choice was mine and I hate how people view things at times.
Sometimes, choices have to be made and they will be tough and people will get hurt, but you have to live with your choice not others.
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I am against abortion unless it puts the mother's life in danger. I feel abortion should not be used for birth control that is so wrong. When I was pregnant with my oldest daughter they wanted to do an amniocentesis. I said no because it was only going to be done so I could decide to abort the pregnancy or not. She is now a healthy happy 19 year old. Aborting her was definitely not an option for me. :heart:
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Well i wouldn't support my child's mother doing it, but if that's your choice, fine.
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I discourage it (if one of my students tells me she is pregnant, I suggest adoption, etc. and tell her about the disadvantages of abortion), but sadly, there are tragic cases in which it must done to avoid a greater cruelty to mother and child. For those exceptions, it must remain legal.
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I'm against it, everyone deserves a chance at life even if it was unintentional.
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Do I care if I am judged by others? No, because they were not in my shoes and don't know that the biggest judge of all is God and I come second.
I have already tortured myself for years about this and I still stand with my opinion.
People are so easy to judge and say that it's wrong and and no one should be able to have one but until something like that happens to them they will truly never know.
You have nothing to be ashamed of and don't have to defend your actions to anyone else so please stop feeling guilty and stop beating yourself over it.
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I am defintely against abortion. The bible says tho shall not kill. Im with that.
I agree. I'm against it too. The baby can always be given up for adoption. I would even adopt one, if given the opportunity.
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I am against abortion because it is unjust to kill a unborn child; however, when it comes to a rape situation, i believe the victim might should have a choice.
THIS CAN BE A VERY TOUCHY SUBJECT FOR MANY WOMEN. BUT IN MY OPINION THAT DECISION SHOULD BE LEFT UP TO EACH INDIVIDUAL PERSON. THERE ARE TIMES WHEN HAVING AN ABORTION IS NECESSARY IN SAVING THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER. SO WHY ISN'T A BIG ISSUE MADE WHEN THIS FORM OF ABORTION IS USED!!
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Abortion is not a crime-its a decision! Let it be known that I have never faced "the decision" before, and no disrespect to those who have, but this is how I feel.
If someone has been raped, they should definitely make the decision.
If someone was careless and got pregnant, they should let the father know, then make that decision. Next time, don't be so careless!
If a couple learn that their unborn child will have difficulties(in this day and age, this ain't no joke) or impairment before they are born that will not enable them to lead even a semi-normal life, Let her and her family make that decision.Thinking about what this child will go through in their life time, and the fallout that encrues along the way (financial, social, physical, mental, ect.) is a hard road to look at in anyone's future. Why should you or your unborn suffer through this? Is it cruel for me to have this child, only to have him/her struggle to live a normal life?? Will you be able to live a normal life after they are born?? Is it all worth it in the end?
Whether or not you think its murder in this case, to me, when I think about this subject, I just go back to nature and survival of the fittest.
In nature, for some animals, the situation is about as cut and dry as it gets. If certain creatures have impaired offspring, they abandon them, because their internal instinct tells them that this particular cub will not make it, they can't stand up or run, therefore they cannot flea from other predators, fend for themselves or forage for food, therefore they cant keep up-so they cut their losses and move on. But some animals are not like this, they have maternal instinct, and have evolved to have empathy for one another, and will fight to the death to save their impared offspring, or take extra care in raising them to survive-reguardless(IE elephants, primates, Humans, ect). Once they have left the nest, they are on their own, and nature takes its course. But can we as humans, let nature take its course, or should we interveen?
You know, one thing that a select few humans on this planet have not evolved to do yet is to face truths. Things that are ineviteable-life and death. It uncomfortable for some to speak about, others have no problem with it. But when it comes down to the unborn fetus, or child, everyone has something to say about the persons own personal decision. This is why I believe their shouldn't be a law of any type for this. Yes, get the law involved when it's between Spouses, or a separated couple, but besides that-your decision!
The maternal instinct is a very powerful thing, which makes it even harder for anyone to come to a decision about abortion. So I say in conclusion, it ultimately depends on the person and should always depend on the person. We as human beings have evolved in many complex ways, to feel and care greatly about our offspring and their future, to celebrate life and mourn death.Having anyone, let alone a Law dictating what we should do with our unborn children is like a threat, it is very unnerving, and it crosses personal lines.
Its like a super-internal battle that people have to make their own decisions about, everything outside of those decisions is like white noise, influences, promptability, possibilities, probabilities and consequential outcomes.
the end!
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im extremely against it, for rape victims theres always adoption.
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both. i am totally against it but people and going to do it anyways so yea it should be legal.
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100% for abortion. People should have the choice. Also many lives have been ruined by having kids at a young age.
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I believe that with all the different methods of birth control that r available, there should be very little need for abortion except in special circumstances. Abortion should be available only for those circumstances.
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For everyone here who has said they are against abortion, your faith will be shaken if you are ever faced with a circumstance that would warrant careful consideration over that decision. It is not an easy decision. Every person I have ever known that has had one has tortured themselves over it!
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highly against it, no matter what.
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For everyone here who has said they are against abortion, your faith will be shaken if you are ever faced with a circumstance that would warrant careful consideration over that decision. It is not an easy decision. Every person I have ever known that has had one has tortured themselves over it!
Having and carrying for a child is a very hard task, BUT, is it WORTH to KILL the child BECAUSE you can't SUPPORT it?
It's like your punishing the child for a crime it didn't commit. Therefore I'm...
highly against it, no matter what.
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Uugh! I can't stand the idea of abortion. There are thousands of women around in the world in need of a child because they can't have one. If there is one woman who doesn't want their child then put the child up for adoption. That's the best thing any woman can do.
I'm not against abortion, I mean people shouldn't go around getting pregnant and get an abortion for convienance, if pregnancy happened due to rape or their could be complications then yes, I do believe in abortions.
In the US alone, there are an average of 120-130 THOUSAND children available for adoption every year. (according to statistics from 2000-2006; couldn't find more recent ones http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/stats_research/afcars/waiting2006.htm ) If those women want children so badly, they can adopt one of them instead. A child shouldn't have to be a newborn to be worthy of adoption and love.
And I am for the right to abortion, though I personally wouldn't have an abortion myself unless there were extenuating circumstances. But I wouldn't want to deny abortions to those who want them, either. What I am most worried about though, is if the government outlaws abortions, except for rape/incest/health reasons, then later they will change it to include those as well. (That would be a major step back for women.) I'd rather allow others to have the freedom to do something I wouldn't do and generally disapprove of, than to chance losing freedom for the parts I do agree with. Also, I believe that only women have the right to decide; a man should not be able to decide until they gain the ability to become pregnant and give birth themselves.
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Having and carrying for a child is a very hard task, BUT, is it WORTH to KILL the child BECAUSE you can't SUPPORT it?
It's like your punishing the child for a crime it didn't commit. Therefore I'm...
I've already clearly stated my position here:
I've had one, but I didn't have much of a choice. I had a baby inside me that was not thriving but would not pass on its own. My choice was to either have the D&C or to risk trying to allow the pregnancy to pass on its own, risk not being able to become pregnant again, and risk serious health to myself. Now I have a beautiful 2 year old daughter. And, before anyone asks, I was in a monogamous relationship with my husband and we wanted desperately to have a child. We had to make the best decision possible for ourselves.
Two years before that, I was raped, and my faith was shaken. The rapist didn't use a condom, and my period was late. I knew without a doubt that there was no way I could carry the child should I be pregnant. Thankfully, I wasn't. The same wasn't true for a very close friend of mine...she became pregnant as a result of her rape. She had an abortion, and now she has a beautiful daughter that she loves more than life itself.
Abortion, firstly, is a very misleading term, but I'm not here to debate semantics. It is a very difficult thing to decide to terminate a pregnancy; one that NO ONE can make in advance, and to deny anyone the opportunity to make the decision for themselves based on the personal moral politics of someone who has never dealt with the situation firsthand is wrong. Period.
So many people tout "take responsibility for your actions" and using condoms, birth control, or abstinence. This isn't realistic without comprehensive sex education. Using a condom isn't going to do much good if neither party knows how to correctly use a condom. How many Bristol Palins are out there in the world whose parents are telling them to not have sex until they are married, and then they become pregnant and feel that they have to get married because "it is the right thing to do?" How many of those teens who get pregnant tell the guy they are pregnant and are abandoned? How many would physically harm themselves to keep from telling their judgmental parents they were pregnant or to avoid a "shotgun wedding?"
This question isn't as narrow as it may seem. If you want to debate viability, ok. I'll bite. If you want to debate when a pregnancy becomes a human being with individual rights, ok, I'll bite. But in the final analysis, it doesn't matter a bit what I say...each woman deserves the right to decide for themselves when faced with this: http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
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I feel every woman has the right to make that decision on their own. A lot of people may say they are against it, but what if you were raped and got pregnant, would you want to give birth to that child? I wouldn't because just thinking of how that child was conceived is just too horrifying.
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Women just need to learn to use birth control and men need to use condoms if they don't want want kids!
I don't believe in abortion, but I do think our population is WAY too high, and abortions wouldn't have to be an option if people were careful.
Again, I'm not for abortion but in these times it's not smart to have 5-12 kids.
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Uugh! I can't stand the idea of abortion. There are thousands of women around in the world in need of a child because they can't have one. If there is one woman who doesn't want their child then put the child up for adoption. That's the best thing any woman can do.
Abortion is easy to say , what if the woman was rape by a family member, should she give birth and put the baby for adoption, but what should she tell her children?
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Friend of my was rape and she's having that baby becouse she don't bolive in abortion , i think she should put the baby for adoption or have an abortion.
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I am very much against abortion its killing a baby why is it right to kill before it is born but not when it is born society is messed up
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I am very much against abortion. When I was in college and took Child Development it was so easy that life begins at conception. Has anyone seen the picture of a baby grabbing the doctors hand.
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Times are very different now with religion and the views on abortion.
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I am against,that people have like 3+ abortions because they don't want to be a parent.
I do not like abortion,but I can see why some people choose to have one.
I wish there was a number where you can't have any more or something like that.
I do not think it should be illegal though.
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I am against abortion, but in certain situations I feel that the person it is ok! ie: rape, or a health risk.
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I would never even think about abortion!!! My sis was going to have one but didnt...good thing she didnt cause I love my niece!! If u dont want a baby dont have sex!!! However, it is a different story for being rape.
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I am totally against abortion! It's killing innocent unborn babies that didn't ask to be born. If you don't want kids don't get pregnant. :heart: That heart is for all the poor innocent babies that went though a abortion.
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I also feel having an abortion is killing an innocent life. I am a Christian and feel that abortion is a sin.
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Tricky question.
While there are those that wouldn't wanted to be reminded of something like a rape by carrying that child;
Others would abuse the ability and use it the skirt responsibility.
It should be handled on a case basis.
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Totally against it...I have been trying for a while now and I could not understand the reason for doing that. There are so many people that would even love to adopt and if the women do not want their baby then they can give the gift to someone who does.
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So we should start legislating morality?
There is a difference between abortion and murder. Carrying a child means that this potential human is using your body, your energy, your resources in order to grow, much like a parasite would. I AM NOT IN ANY WAY SAYING BABIES ARE PARASITES, SO DO NOT START HOUNDING ON THAT... I'm making a simple comparison here. The fact of the matter is, while this embryo--fetus--infant is growing in the woman's body, it is doing so because it is unable to survive without it. If abortion is murder, miscarriage should be considered manslaughter, and so should a mother dying in child birth.
Women who have babies because they want them do not see it as a sacrifice, and although it is difficult and women have to deprive themselves of things they otherwise could have (like a rare steak, eggs over easy, lunch meat, certain types of fish, caffeine, even tea), they would do it again in a heartbeat to have their child. I have seen women who have become pregnant and refused to have an abortion because they have been told it is murder by others and are afraid of judgmental people, and who smoke, get tattoos, drink, and basically do not take care of themselves. Pregnant women with drug addictions is another concern... or women who do not have sex carefully and contract sexually transmitted infections... they pass this addiction or disease on to the infant. Every child should be a wanted child.
As for adoption/foster care... anyone would be crazy to want to subject a child to that. This is not always the most loving course a person could take. Besides that... how many children are waiting to be adopted currently, but are not desirable because they aren't infants? How much abuse goes on in foster homes and orphanages? I used to collect money, food, and clothing when I was in high school to take to two orphanages in the eastern part of my state and the conditions I saw were heart-wrenching. I would abort a baby before I would put it up for adoption.
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I'm pro-choice. There are way too many people in this world as it is. Too many kids up for adoption, too many single parents collecting welfare on kids they don't want or take care of correctly. It would be nice if we could force people to get "fixed", but since that isn't going to happen, we need to be able to do something. I agree, however, that late term abortion IS murder and SHOULD be outlawed.
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Completely for it. I mean if it was a rape case, who would want to have their rapist's child? And in cases of incest, the child's father may be the mother's father or brother! That's really wrong! Then there are cases of handicap children. if you know the child will be handicap, why let him or her suffer? You might as well save them the pain. Techinically, babies can't feel pain until about 24 weeks. The nerves don't develop enough until then, so abortion wouldn't really hurt them until 24 weeks.
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I am 150% AGAINST it. There are so many other options, for example, you can have the baby then put it up for adoption. I don't see a single reason that you should EVER end a childs life, especially before it even fully begins.
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I am against in, except in the case of rape/ or incest.. etc.
If you are responsible enough to have sex, then you are responsible enough to take care of a baby. Don't kill it because you were dumb.. its not the baby's fault. And if you believe that you can't take care of it properly, then find a good family that will.
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TOTALLY AGAINST!
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I personally wouldn't get one but I believe a woman has the right to choose what she feels is right for her.
Exactly what I was going to say !
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I am against,that people have like 3+ abortions because they don't want to be a parent.
I do not like abortion,but I can see why some people choose to have one.
I wish there was a number where you can't have any more or something like that.
I do not think it should be illegal though.
A number where they force you to get your tubes tied.
I'm completely pro-choice but I've heard of some women getting like 9 abortions and that is just gross.
And for everyone who says rape victims can just put the babies up for adoption.. You have to be joking. A woman's already gone trough one traumatic experience and you want to force her to go through all the pain and trauma that the pregnancy afterwards could bring on her? You don't want to give her any say in the matter, just force all that pain on her and even risk her life in the process? That is truly disgusting to even suggest.
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I am against abortion because it is unjust to kill a unborn child; however, when it comes to a rape situation, i believe the victim might should have a choice.
My opinion: A woman looses the right to her body when she lies down with a man. GOD makes the baby and it's hearts starts beating at 10 days. When we kill babies we are playing GOD and we wonder why this country is dying? All this can be proven if anyone is smart enough to check it out. They should go to Right to Life Corporate office. They have done extensive research and are glad to make it available. I use to be pro-abortion until one day I was listening to my radio. They announced that Germany had come up with a new drug that effected the brain and needed infant brains to test it on. American doctors took 36 preme infants, cut their heads off at birth and put the heads on ice to keep them alive. Sent them to Germany. I got sick and began to do my own research. Discovered they used infacts to make lamp shades, soap, etc. The abortion mills make lots of money harvesting the organs & other parts of the infacts {that some say are not yet human?} Abortion is a money machine using the most innocent in our society. What if your mother had aborted you?
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abortion is murder. Its unfair for an innocent child to die.
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it is bad in all circumstances
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Im totally for abortion and for those that are against abortion then maybe u should read the case of Roe vs Wade >:(
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My opinion: A woman looses the right to her body when she lies down with a man.
That is one of the most sexist things I have ever read in my life. A woman never loses the right to her body. That is a rape condoning statement, IMO. If a woman is naked and changes her mind before or even during sex, she has every right to say no.
During pregnancy, a woman's body takes a beating like no man will ever be able to understand. The mortality rates from pregnancy are higher than from abortion. http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
GOD makes the baby and it's hearts starts beating at 10 days. When we kill babies we are playing GOD and we wonder why this country is dying? All this can be proven if anyone is smart enough to check it out.
Of course the heart starts beating, and an embryo begins to change and evolve. However, while this is occurring, things sometimes happen. That is why at 20 weeks gestation, women have full anatomy ultrasounds that last nearly an hour to make sure that everything is developing as it should.
If you want to leave it cut and dry like that, the same thing happens with animals. Do you eat hamburgers? That was also once a baby.
They should go to Right to Life Corporate office. They have done extensive research and are glad to make it available.
How about the Planned Parenthood offices? How about ChoiceUSA or the Feminist Majority? Catholics for a Free Choice? There are many many groups out there that are more interested in educating rather than fear mongering.
Which brings me to your next statement...
I use to be pro-abortion until one day I was listening to my radio. They announced that Germany had come up with a new drug that effected the brain and needed infant brains to test it on. American doctors took 36 preme infants, cut their heads off at birth and put the heads on ice to keep them alive. Sent them to Germany. I got sick and began to do my own research. Discovered they used infacts to make lamp shades, soap, etc. The abortion mills make lots of money harvesting the organs & other parts of the infacts {that some say are not yet human?} Abortion is a money machine using the most innocent in our society. What if your mother had aborted you?
Fear mongering at its worst.
Oh, and the term is Pro-Choice, not Pro-Abortion. That would be like me calling you anti-choice, although from your statements here, that title may not be too far off.
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My opinion: A woman looses the right to her body when she lies down with a man.
That is one of the most sexist things I have ever read in my life. A woman never loses the right to her body. That is a rape condoning statement, IMO. If a woman is naked and changes her mind before or even during sex, she has every right to say no.
During pregnancy, a woman's body takes a beating like no man will ever be able to understand. The mortality rates from pregnancy are higher than from abortion. http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
GOD makes the baby and it's hearts starts beating at 10 days. When we kill babies we are playing GOD and we wonder why this country is dying? All this can be proven if anyone is smart enough to check it out.
Of course the heart starts beating, and an embryo begins to change and evolve. However, while this is occurring, things sometimes happen. That is why at 20 weeks gestation, women have full anatomy ultrasounds that last nearly an hour to make sure that everything is developing as it should.
If you want to leave it cut and dry like that, the same thing happens with animals. Do you eat hamburgers? That was also once a baby.
They should go to Right to Life Corporate office. They have done extensive research and are glad to make it available.
How about the Planned Parenthood offices? How about ChoiceUSA or the Feminist Majority? Catholics for a Free Choice? There are many many groups out there that are more interested in educating rather than fear mongering.
Which brings me to your next statement...
I use to be pro-abortion until one day I was listening to my radio. They announced that Germany had come up with a new drug that effected the brain and needed infant brains to test it on. American doctors took 36 preme infants, cut their heads off at birth and put the heads on ice to keep them alive. Sent them to Germany. I got sick and began to do my own research. Discovered they used infacts to make lamp shades, soap, etc. The abortion mills make lots of money harvesting the organs & other parts of the infacts {that some say are not yet human?} Abortion is a money machine using the most innocent in our society. What if your mother had aborted you?
Fear mongering at its worst.
Oh, and the term is Pro-Choice, not Pro-Abortion. That would be like me calling you anti-choice, although from your statements here, that title may not be too far off.
Thank you.
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I am definitely for abortion.
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I think in some cases. I couldn't do it, but don't hold it against those that have. I am not going to judge someone for that. I am against late term abortion.
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I am 75% for abortion and 25% against it. I know that if the mother do not want to have this child, she should be able to do something about it. :- :'(
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i am completely against abortion. from the time that the embrio is conceived it can be concidered an unborn child. i don't believe in killing children, especially if they are unborn. they are helpless and cannot fend for themselves. they need people to fend for them and to protect them.
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I am against abortion because it is unjust to kill a unborn child; however, when it comes to a rape situation, i believe the victim might should have a choice.
I am against abortion too. I think it is almost like murdering someone. If people aren't responsible enough...they shouldn't have sex without protection. what do you think?
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There isn't a No or Yes question to this. Abortion if it was for medical reasons, life or death. Against it because so many people are looking for babies to adopt. Adoption is so cruel...I am totally against it. Life is to important to end.
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I am against abortion because it is unjust to kill a unborn child; however, when it comes to a rape situation, i believe the victim might should have a choice.
I am against abortion too. I think it is almost like murdering someone. If people aren't responsible enough...they shouldn't have sex without protection. what do you think?
Pregnancy doesn't always happen because people are irresponsible. Pregnancy can happen because contraceptives fail, or it can happen because of rape. A woman shouldn't be forced to go through 9 months of pregnancy just because she has bad luck.
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I'm against abortion because regardless of how you try to justify it...it is still murder.
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Every baby deserves the right to live as much as anyone else :notworthy:
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i strongly despise even the idea of abortion.
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i personally am against abortion. it's a topic i tend to steer away from though, as it's so controversial. the two sides of this argument will never agree.
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definitely against.
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100000% AGAINST ABORTION... :angel12:
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I have two words for you: pro-choice.
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pro-choice.
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am against abortions
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Pro choice. Not sure why people still ask this question b/c u get the same kind of response every time...for, againt, murder, personal choice blah blah blah
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I am 100% against abortion. In my opinion it is muder and it is wrong. It is taking the life of an innocent baby that never got a chance to live. I lost a baby at 6 months which is the latest you can have an abortion and by then the baby is fully developed just about ready to be born in an emergency. I don't see how anybody can just kill their baby like that. A lot of people say that women should have the right to do it if they want, but what they should actually do is just not get pregnant. That's what birth control is for. And for the rape victims and everything, how can you have the heart to kill your own baby no matter who the dad is. Think about it.
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Pro-Choice all the way, it's a choice, a woman's choice, so why do people have to criticize people trying to live their lives the way they want to. ???
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New member here just saw this.... I believe that every person is entitled to their own opinion, however the baby didnt ask to come in the situation they are innocent.... too people many in this world cant have babies. if a girl feels its a mistake why not help a couple who cant have a baby.. a baby shouldnt suffer, bc of their parents mistakes
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Against it. Its just wrong to murder a human being. :'( :'(
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Whenever I read such a topic, I'm always reminded of the Paul Harvey's The Rest of the Story episode entitled "IF":
When rape results in pregnancy, or when giving birth might cost the mother's life, few women would fail to consider as an alternative: Abortion.
But let's say you're a doctor--a physician not morally adverse to terminating a patient's pregnancy--and the circumstances are neither frivolous nor dire. Let's say that on a given day you are consulted by two young women, both pregnant, both doubtful as to whether they should be.
Now, remember: such a choice is ultimately the mother's, but because you are a physician, and because your judgment is respected, and because your patient is seeking guidance, everything you say, regardless of how clinically objective--yes, even the tone of your voice--may sway her decision. Yours is a position of enormous responsibility. Like it or not, the very expression on your face could save or extinguish a life.
Your first expectant mother is Caterina.
Caterina is unmarried, obviously in her teens, obviously poor. You ask her age, and she tells you, and at once you realize she has overstated her years by one or two or three. Caterina is in the first trimester of her pregnancy. You ask if she has been pregnant before. Caterina shakes her head. Studying her, you wonder. You inquire of her general health; no problems, she says. And the health of the father? Caterina shrugs; her eyes fall. She has lost contact with the father of her unborn child. All she knows is he was twenty-three, a lawyer or a notary or something like that. He lives nearby, she thinks; she is not sure. The affair was over quickly, little more than a one-night stand. No child was expected--nor now is wanted.
What Doctor, is your advice?
Later the same day, you are consulted by a second expectant mother.
Her name is Klara.
Klara is twenty-eight, married three years, the wife of a government worker; she has the look of a woman accustomed to anguish. Concerned for the ultimate health of her unborn, Klara explains that for each year of her marriage she has had a child--and each has died; the first within thirty-one months, the second within sixteen months, the third within several days. Disease? You ask. Klara nods. She suspects that any future child would be equally susceptible. For you see, her husband is also her second cousin. Both Catholic, they received papal dispensation to marry--though now Klara questions their wisdom in asking permission. And there's something else... One of Klara's sisters is a hunchback; another sister, the mother of a hunchback. Klara is in the first trimester of her fourth pregnancy. The odds are against the health of her child. Time is running out. And it is only later that you learn--Klara's husband is not, as she has said, her second cousin. He is her uncle.
So what, Doctor, is your advice?
In addition to all immediate considerations--physical, moral, religious--the dilemma of whether to terminate a pregnancy is a philosophical question:
Might this life, if left to live, affect the consciousness or even the destiny of mankind?
Yet if the profundity of this question is diminished by the balance which governs all life, there is evidence in the two true stories you have just heard: the unwed mother with unwanted child; the married mother with the graves of three infants behind her.
For if you, as the hypothetical physician, have opted in both cases for abortion--then you have respectively denied the world the multifaceted genius of Leonardo da Vinci--and spared humanity the terror of Adolf Hitler.
They are THE REST OF THE STORY.
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I am against abortion because only God can create life in the womb.
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Uugh! I can't stand the idea of abortion. There are thousands of women around in the world in need of a child because they can't have one. If there is one woman who doesn't want their child then put the child up for adoption. That's the best thing any woman can do.
In the US alone, there are an average of 120-130 THOUSAND children available for adoption every year. (according to statistics from 2000-2006; couldn't find more recent ones http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/stats_research/afcars/waiting2006.htm ) If those women want children so badly, they can adopt one of them instead. A child shouldn't have to be a newborn to be worthy of adoption and love.
And I am for the right to abortion, though I personally wouldn't have an abortion myself unless there were extenuating circumstances. But I wouldn't want to deny abortions to those who want them, either. What I am most worried about though, is if the government outlaws abortions, except for rape/incest/health reasons, then later they will change it to include those as well. (That would be a major step back for women.) I'd rather allow others to have the freedom to do something I wouldn't do and generally disapprove of, than to chance losing freedom for the parts I do agree with. Also, I believe that only women have the right to decide; a man should not be able to decide until they gain the ability to become pregnant and give birth themselves.
with everyone who think abortion should be ok, just think about this for a few minutes.
if you abort a child then who is going to pay into our social security, and for every person that retires, a newborn child should take their place when they get old enough to work and therefore pay into the social security fund, this is why we are having issues with our social security because there is no one old enough to work because they were aborted back in the 80's and 90's and now in 11' just think how much would be in the fund for our elderly but yet there will be nothing left when I retire in about 15 years and if there is nothing left for me just think about your kids when they retire or your grand kids or worse yet your great grand kids if there are even any people left on this earth because everyone wants an abortion
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I can't lie i've had two abortions before i had my daughter and i never truly understand what it meant i was embarassed by the dad and everything was a bad situation i recently watched a bunch of videos on how they go about abortions depending on the trimester the woman are in the first 7 weeks then 12 weeks then the 28weeks then the partial abortion when the baby is full term i just about threw up has anyone seen those videos on youtube you should really check it out i was so nauseous that i let myself do that to such a innocent little one that was growing inside me i blame myself every day and even though i was so young i really wish that i would have kept the children they are miracles even as hard as the economy is and it is incredibly hard to take care of yourself let alone another life but for all those woman that can't have kids its like christmas day when you can give them something that physically can't have and you can provide for them its always great to do that for others and not only that but anyone know of those woman who get paid to carry someone else's baby that is how they make there money that just makes me sick that the only reason they do it is to get paid how can you sit there and have someone inplant a life inside you and have your body getting all stretched out just for a few thousand dollars not just for the sake that you are making a child happy as well as parents
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Abortion, to me, should be completely legal. I understand the idea that many believe life begins at conception, however I think that certain things can completely alter a person's life, and one mistake as a teenager should not be life altering, in my opinion.
With that being said, I would much rather see a woman go through with the pregnancy and give the baby up for adoption, but I have a friend who gave birth to a child as a freshman in high school, and it has forced her to work a lot of hours during the week, and she missed a lot of school during the year and had to retake certain classes. This is not to say that she isn't happy, she is, but I've seen the inconveniences of a pregnancy that a teenager feels and experiences. She should have made a better decision, I agree, but it is hard to raise a child, especially as a student. There are a lot of sacrifices, and I know she would not have done it any differently, but she could have gone to a four year university for a higher education if she had not gotten pregnant.
I would say that the first option should be adoption, but some people cannot handle the pregnancy, and it is likely that the woman would have a child in the future.
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After reading the post on this one disscussion... I don't think this is something that should be discussed on this forum. I understand and respect everyones individuals opinions..but unless you are a woman that has to carry a child iniside you and you are met with a decision of that significance that is private matter....I wonder if FC is keeps tabs on these types of posts...
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against it, I am against making life and then destroying it. :BangHead:
Unless the baby is in serious health risks.
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I am Against Abortion but no one in this world can't tell others what they want to do. You can do whatever you want but to be honest if you can not give the child what he or she needs give it up for adoption where there are families out there that can not have kids and will give a child what he or she needs. Many women in this world can not have children while others are able too and are killing them which is totally unfair. I think its wrong. An unborn child is unable to defend him/herself so its unfair to them also that they did not get to live and see light...
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to the ones who are for abortion!!! can you say CONDOMS??? atleast if you use that your not killing anything exept sperm
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Absolutely against it, 100%. That should be considered murder. I don't see how anyone can kill a child. :dontknow:
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Absolutely against it, 100%. That should be considered murder. I don't see how anyone can kill a child. :dontknow:
you got that right, I'm with you
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Against it, with the exceptions of rape, incest, and the mother's life is in danger.
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Definitely I dont support abortion, you are literally killing a human being. I am an ultrasound tech and when you hear the heart rate at 4 or 5 weeks of conception its amazing, at that time they are so tiny as 4mm, thats quite small. I belive we dont have the right to kill an innocent, if you don't want the baby, just seek for help and give it in adoption after is born. and as Ronald Reagan said once "I've noticed that everybody that is for abortion has already been born"
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Give women the ability. There are justifiable reasons.
But for those who just want an easy way out; put social workers on their case to make sure they stick with the child.
And beat some sense into teenage harlots
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I am against abortion because it is unjust to kill a unborn child; however, when it comes to a rape situation, i believe the victim might should have a choice.
My Thoughts exactly!!!