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Title: Gay Marriage
Post by: anguyen21 on October 25, 2010, 01:22:27 pm
I am writing a paper about gay marriage, but right now it seems bland and uninteresting.  So, what are your thoughts on it?
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: Falconer02 on October 25, 2010, 06:53:54 pm
It's quite a controversial topic. You could learn a lot by skimming this thread--

http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?topic=17688.0

If I may ask- what's your stance?
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: tabs0902008 on October 25, 2010, 09:17:37 pm
i had a gay best friend. she was a good friend! Until the b**** got attached and got jealous that i want hangin out with her as much..
lol

Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: Hurricanekiz on October 26, 2010, 12:21:59 am
i find it wild that they choose to get married.  i approve of it because they are still trying to respect God by getting married and not fornication. 
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: anguyen21 on October 26, 2010, 10:07:37 am
It's quite a controversial topic. You could learn a lot by skimming this thread--

http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?topic=17688.0

If I may ask- what's your stance?

Thanks!  I approve of gay marriage.  It's plain discrimination.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: Falconer02 on October 26, 2010, 11:00:19 am
g4u!
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: sflynt on October 26, 2010, 11:10:21 am
I don't see how someone's sexual preference should matter. If they love someone, whether same sex or not, they should be able to show that love. and if they choose to show it by getting married, then why not? Who's to say that they can't? Who has the right to take that right away from them? I think its BS that there are laws banning same sex marriage.  :angry7:  We have more important things to be worrying about in this country, than whether this or that gay couple is getting married.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: healthfreedom on October 26, 2010, 04:58:44 pm
There's a lot of talk about gay marriage today. Personally, I do not support it, but people have to choose their own way. I believe marriage is meant for a man and a woman, and nothing short of that.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: 502mania on November 01, 2010, 02:20:47 pm
marriage should be up to the people getting married. not regulated by a government that supposed to be run by the people (u.s.a. anyway.) polygamy, gay marriage should be up to the people to decide. you don't have to, but you can if you want to. exactly who do you harm by getting married?
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: sflynt on November 01, 2010, 02:42:14 pm
I mean, seriously, why not let them get married? Its not hurting anyone. If they choose to be married and miserable like any other married couple, then let 'em.  :P  hahaha!
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: ancmetro on November 01, 2010, 04:49:53 pm
    I am going to watch the links. I will be back.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: ButterflyWings on November 01, 2010, 04:52:42 pm
I believe no matter who you love you should be able to be married to them..I wish this was not as big of a deal as it is made there are so many other things we need to worry about then two people who love each other getting married or not..Love people Love..I do I love all  :heart: :peace:
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: jordandog on November 01, 2010, 05:10:03 pm
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If they choose to be married and miserable like any other married couple, then let 'em.    hahaha!

Classic! ;D For anyone who doesn't know my stance yet, I am pro.
We don't need no stinking badges!
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: sflynt on November 02, 2010, 08:55:51 am
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If they choose to be married and miserable like any other married couple, then let 'em.    hahaha!

Classic! ;D For anyone who doesn't know my stance yet, I am pro.
We don't need no stinking badges!

 ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: mypug04 on November 02, 2010, 10:52:10 am
Hmmm no comment. I have gays cousins lol  ::)
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: amyrouse on November 02, 2010, 10:55:25 am
The first wedding my daughter attended was a gay commitment ceremony.  The couple had been together for 11 years, and they found a pastor willing to do the ceremony.  They were chased out of their town, though, and had to go two towns over to be able to have it done.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: mypug04 on November 02, 2010, 11:23:35 am
wow that is interesting  :D I have cousins who are gay but they are not married, they just have their boyfriends lol
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: ladybug6165 on November 02, 2010, 08:21:47 pm
Personally I don't agree with it. I don't have a problem with gays. I just don't approve of their lifestyle. I'm sorry, but I think it is wrong.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: hitgirl420 on November 02, 2010, 08:34:02 pm
im all for gay marriage live your life, its your life and i think it's great that people are doing what they really want to do instead of doing what others think is right.  forget others and who cares if others don't approve they don't need to who are they to say anything about the way some live their lives....  were not in the 40's anymore far from it so do what makes you happy and im happy for you :) xoxo
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: amyrouse on November 02, 2010, 11:22:25 pm
im all for gay marriage live your life, its your life and i think it's great that people are doing what they really want to do instead of doing what others think is right.  forget others and who cares if others don't approve they don't need to who are they to say anything about the way some live their lives....  were not in the 40's anymore far from it so do what makes you happy and im happy for you :) xoxo

Exactly... no one needs approval from anyone else when living their life.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: jordandog on November 03, 2010, 05:46:08 am
Personally I don't agree with it. I don't have a problem with gays. I just don't approve of their lifestyle. I'm sorry, but I think it is wrong.

Hmm, oxymoron here or what? Their 'lifestyle' is what makes them gay, so how do you disconnect the two?
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: mattymatt79 on November 03, 2010, 07:03:31 am
Here's the thing, people who are pro-gay marriage are going about it all wrong. Instead of trying to get gay marriage approved, what needs to happen is have the government out of our decision to marry alltogether. I shouldn't have had to gone and got a license to get married to my now wife and pay a fee for it.

People if they want to support gay marriage would catch much more fly's if they would support a less government society of having the government out of our lives. Why should some donkey government official say who I could or couldn't marry.

I don't like the concept of gay marriage, but I'm not opposed to it being called something else, marriage in it's truest sence of the word is the promotion of a woman to motherhood. Something that obviously can not happen. Also, another huge stumbling block for people who are pro-gay marriage by trying to get laws changed, it opens up for potential legal battles that could really hurt more people than it's supposed to help. A big argument, say it's now a legal act, gay's all over America are allowed to marry, by creating such law, you're now forcing certain religious sects to marry even if they disagree with your views, say the Catholic church. You've now created a legal battle as opposed to a unification of two people.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: jordandog on November 03, 2010, 08:32:40 am
mattymatt79:
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Also, another huge stumbling block for people who are pro-gay marriage by trying to get laws changed, it opens up for potential legal battles that could really hurt more people than it's supposed to help. A big argument, say it's now a legal act, gay's all over America are allowed to marry, by creating such law, you're now forcing certain religious sects to marry even if they disagree with your views, say the Catholic church. You've now created a legal battle as opposed to a unification of two people.

I am confused by this portion of your post. Are you implying that any church, not specifically the catholic, would be forced to allow/recognize the marriage of a gay couple? It is my understanding, and I could be dead wrong here, that each denomination and church therein has it's own set of guidelines and can refuse to marry any couple that does not meet or comply with it's guidelines. For instance, a Jewish man and a Catholic woman would NOT be 'allowed' to marry within either of their own places of worship because of secular guidelines and hierarchy. How would passing gay marriage into law 'force' any church into marrying them? I just don't see that as a possibilty unless that is NOT what you meant.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: mattymatt79 on November 03, 2010, 08:36:20 am
My thought is and I might be wrong but from what I was reading is that this would turn a nonsecular thing into a forced secular thing.

Example forcing a Catholic church to marry a gay couple due to title ix agreements and not doing so would be discrimination.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: jordandog on November 03, 2010, 09:08:38 am
My thought is and I might be wrong but from what I was reading is that this would turn a nonsecular thing into a forced secular thing.

Example forcing a Catholic church to marry a gay couple due to title ix agreements and not doing so would be discrimination.

Hmm, I honestly do not know about that. I am 100% in favor of gay marriage, but I am NOT in favor of something that would force every religion and/or church to 'comply' with an across the board acceptance.

I realize that last statement might shock quite a few of you on here, but it is said with complete sincerity and honesty. ;)
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: mattymatt79 on November 03, 2010, 09:18:02 am
This all goes back to my original point. Get government out of it all together and well, more people would have MORE personal liberties.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: bschumacher on November 03, 2010, 11:40:12 am
Gay marriage is just another civil rights issue. Homosexuality is not a "lifestyle choice;" it is determined by genetics, just as race is! I say, let them marry.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: amyrouse on November 03, 2010, 12:06:12 pm
I am NOT in favor of something that would force every religion and/or church to 'comply' with an across the board acceptance.

Not a shock to me... exactly what I would have expected you to say, Jordandog.  ;)

I do agree somewhat with mattymatt79, though.  I've always believed that anyone who gets married by a JOP or other civil servant is a member of a civil union, and marriage is a religious union.  If the government wants to recognize any union/marriage, it should recognize all.  By denying same-sex couples the same rights and heterosexual couples, it seems similar to me to establishing a religious view rather than establishing justice, ensuring domestic tranquility, promoting the general welfare, and securing the blessings of liberty (all words used in the Constitution), especially since we're discussing two consenting adults here.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: mypug04 on November 03, 2010, 04:17:03 pm
 what is this  :bs: means? hmmm i dont wanna say it
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: Annella on November 03, 2010, 05:29:03 pm
Let me get this straight.  You mean FORCE all religions to accept gay marriage, and the Clergy has to conform to it like taxes?

I'd turn in my credentials if it ever came to that.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: amyrouse on November 03, 2010, 05:47:17 pm
Let me get this straight.  You mean FORCE all religions to accept gay marriage, and the Clergy has to conform to it like taxes?

I'd turn in my credentials if it ever came to that.

I hope you didn't misunderstand my post, Annella.  I don't think that religious institutions should accept gay marriage, but that if the law recognizes a heterosexual union that they should a homosexual union as well.  If a person's religion does not honor gay marriage, it should not perform gay marriage.

I've often had people misunderstand my stance on the difference between marriage and civil unions.  IMO, I have a marriage because it was performed by my rabbi, while my brother had a civil union since it was performed by a JOP.  Does that make sense?
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: Annella on November 03, 2010, 06:19:26 pm
Let me get this straight.  You mean FORCE all religions to accept gay marriage, and the Clergy has to conform to it like taxes?

I'd turn in my credentials if it ever came to that.

I hope you didn't misunderstand my post, Annella.  I don't think that religious institutions should accept gay marriage, but that if the law recognizes a heterosexual union that they should a homosexual union as well.  If a person's religion does not honor gay marriage, it should not perform gay marriage.

I've often had people misunderstand my stance on the difference between marriage and civil unions.  IMO, I have a marriage because it was performed by my rabbi, while my brother had a civil union since it was performed by a JOP.  Does that make sense?

K
Title: Re: Gay Marriage
Post by: dell9031 on November 03, 2010, 06:55:55 pm
I think unions of this type are fine.