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Title: Emergency Numbers
Post by: ULuvCeCe on December 15, 2010, 02:19:19 pm
This was at a site a friend forwarded to me, I printed it to keep in my bible, maybe some of you would like it   :angel11:

Emergency Telephone Numbers
These are more effective than 911

When -
You are sad, phone John 14
You have sinned, phone Psalm 51
You are facing danger, phone Psalm 91
People have failed you, phone Psalm 27
It feels as though God is far from you, phone Psalm 139
Your faith needs stimulation, phone Hebrews 11
You are alone and scared, phone Psalm 23
You are worried, phone Matthew 8:19-34
You are hurt and critical, phone 1 Corinthians 13
You wonder about Christianity, phone 2 Corinthians 5:15-18
You feel like an outcast, phone Romans 8:31-39
You are seeking peace, phone Matthew 11:25-30
It feels as if the world is b igger than God, phone Psalm 90
You need Christ like insurance, phone Romans 8:1-30
You are leaving home for a trip , phone Psalm 121
You are praying for yourself, phone Psalm 87
You require courage for a task, phone Joshua 1
Inflation's and investments are hogging your thoughts, phone Mark 10:17-31
You are depressive, phone Psalm 27
Your bank account is empty, phone Psalm 37
You lose faith in mankind, phone 1 Corinthians 13
It looks like people are unfriendly, phone John 15
You are losing hope, phone Psalm 126
You feel the world is small comp ared to you, phone Psalm 19
You want to carry fruit, phone John 15
Paul's secret for happiness, phone Colossians 3:12-17
With big opportunity/ discovery, phone Isaiah 55
To get along with other people, phone Romans 12

ALTERNATE NUMBERS
For dealing with fear, call Psalm 47
For security, call Psalm 121:3
For assurance, call Mark 8:35
For reassurance, call Psalm 145:18

ALL THESE NUMBERS MAY BE PHONED DIRECTLY.
NO OPERATOR ASSISTANCE IS NECESSARY.
ALL LINES TO HEAVEN ARE AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A DAY.
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: Falconer02 on December 15, 2010, 06:10:29 pm
What if I'm facing ghosts! Who ya gonna call!?
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: alina6 on December 15, 2010, 06:56:00 pm
Thanks for the guidance - definitely some numbers to keep handy.
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: SCarter984 on December 15, 2010, 08:56:08 pm
...and if you can't find your number list, just call HIS name.  HE is always listening!
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: queenofnines on December 17, 2010, 07:07:27 am
What if I'm facing ghosts! Who ya gonna call!?

lol

"ALL LINES TO HEAVEN ARE AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A DAY."

What do you mean?  Is that the suicide hotline?!
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: mh874892 on December 17, 2010, 08:06:11 am
This is a great list to have and cherish.
Very clever! Thanks for it. =]
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: sdecaro558 on December 18, 2010, 09:13:26 am
When feeling any of those things, I'm more likely to turn to God in prayer than to pull open my Bible.  Though, if I do open my Bible, I've got my own passages I prefer to turn to.  A laundry list of books and verses is meaningless unless those words mean something at a deeper level to the person reading them.
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: ULuvCeCe on December 19, 2010, 07:24:26 am
A laundry list of books and verses is meaningless unless those words mean something at a deeper level to the person reading them.

It was meant as a guide, there could be countless members on this site that go to church, pray to God but do not use their bible as much as they'd like - this list is not meaningless, it is a good place to start for non bible readers.

@Falconer02 and queenofnines please grow up

@alina6, mh874892 and SherylsShado you are very welcome

@SCarter984 you are absolutely correct, great words of advice! :wave:
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: Falconer02 on December 19, 2010, 10:26:49 am
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@Falconer02 and queenofnines please grow up

lol we're not the ones posting bible verses as emergency numbers  ::)
Btw I don't get bible-area emergency numbers where I'm at. Could you post some numbers from the Vedas for me? I need a good saying next time I want to carry fruit.
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: charmaine56 on December 21, 2010, 08:15:15 pm
If you are truly walking with God in your heart. Then the bible is your sword. As well as a sword is your bible. lol. I just thought that one. Dont know what made me say that. Dont even know if that is how I believe. However I know Moses can be in my Sword if I need him to be. And in that case I dont have time to read the bible.

 :angel12: :angel11: :peace: :star: :star:I used to live with a woman who would hear me pray and recite where in the bible is the answer to that. So I think it is valuable to know those number and that was very keen and special to write all that out for us.
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: Falconer02 on December 21, 2010, 09:57:53 pm
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Emergency numbers don't work??  God also answers knee-mail!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b682t0u8kk4&feature=related
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: tuyetmai on December 21, 2010, 10:32:17 pm
This was at a site a friend forwarded to me, I printed it to keep in my bible, maybe some of you would like it   :angel11:

Emergency Telephone Numbers
These are more effective than 911

When -
You are sad, phone John 14
You have sinned, phone Psalm 51
You are facing danger, phone Psalm 91
People have failed you, phone Psalm 27
It feels as though God is far from you, phone Psalm 139
Your faith needs stimulation, phone Hebrews 11
You are alone and scared, phone Psalm 23
You are worried, phone Matthew 8:19-34
You are hurt and critical, phone 1 Corinthians 13
You wonder about Christianity, phone 2 Corinthians 5:15-18
You feel like an outcast, phone Romans 8:31-39
You are seeking peace, phone Matthew 11:25-30
It feels as if the world is b igger than God, phone Psalm 90
You need Christ like insurance, phone Romans 8:1-30
You are leaving home for a trip , phone Psalm 121
You are praying for yourself, phone Psalm 87
You require courage for a task, phone Joshua 1
Inflation's and investments are hogging your thoughts, phone Mark 10:17-31
You are depressive, phone Psalm 27
Your bank account is empty, phone Psalm 37
You lose faith in mankind, phone 1 Corinthians 13
It looks like people are unfriendly, phone John 15
You are losing hope, phone Psalm 126
You feel the world is small comp ared to you, phone Psalm 19
You want to carry fruit, phone John 15
Paul's secret for happiness, phone Colossians 3:12-17
With big opportunity/ discovery, phone Isaiah 55
To get along with other people, phone Romans 12

ALTERNATE NUMBERS
For dealing with fear, call Psalm 47
For security, call Psalm 121:3
For assurance, call Mark 8:35
For reassurance, call Psalm 145:18

ALL THESE NUMBERS MAY BE PHONED DIRECTLY.
NO OPERATOR ASSISTANCE IS NECESSARY.
ALL LINES TO HEAVEN ARE AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A DAY.
Thank a lot for sharing... Hope you have a wonderful Christmas.
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: queenofnines on December 22, 2010, 08:39:55 am
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@Falconer02 and queenofnines please grow up

lol we're not the ones posting bible verses as emergency numbers  ::)

I was going to say we have grown up; we're not the ones who still believe in fairytales.  lol  But I suppose that would be childish of me, wouldn't it?  Even though it's the truuuuuuttthh...
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: Falconer02 on December 22, 2010, 11:37:04 am
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was going to say we have grown up; we're not the ones who still believe in fairytales.  lol  But I suppose that would be childish of me, wouldn't it?  Even though it's the truuuuuuttthh...

Reality bites! Mwahahahahahaaaaaaaa!
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: ULuvCeCe on December 22, 2010, 01:32:32 pm
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@Falconer02 and queenofnines please grow up

lol we're not the ones posting bible verses as emergency numbers  ::)

I was going to say we have grown up; we're not the ones who still believe in fairytales.  lol  But I suppose that would be childish of me, wouldn't it?  Even though it's the truuuuuuttthh...

If you think the bible is a fairytale that is fine. You'll meet your maker one day and until then may God bless your (and Falconer's) soul :wave:
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: ULuvCeCe on December 22, 2010, 01:34:14 pm
@charmaine56 and tuyetmai you are very welcome, I hope you have a Happy CHRISTmas!  :star:
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: Falconer02 on December 22, 2010, 02:52:33 pm
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If you think the bible is a fairytale that is fine.

I'd say your bible is more mythology than fairy tale.

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You'll meet your maker one day and until then may God bless your (and Falconer's) soul

Thank you. I anxiously await my death so I may hang out with all of the gods one by one and see who's the coolest and who has the best deals. That should take a lot of time seeing how there are millions! Customer satisfaction does not seem to be your gods policy, but I'll take a note of this post and hang out with yours, grab a drink, and let him know you're an okay person! Awww yeahhhh
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: jcribb16 on December 23, 2010, 08:05:54 am
 :cat:
ULuvCeCe:  Thanks for sharing that.  Apparently whoever wrote it has delved deep into the Bible and gained comfort or answers from whatever he/she has experienced.  I notice that the majority of the responses in here support your post.  I don't worry about the other couple of responders and what they have to say, except for their own personal soul/choice, which they have already made pretty clear their choice.  I hope you have a Merry Christmas!  :)
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: Falconer02 on December 23, 2010, 09:07:48 am
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I don't worry about the other couple of responders and what they have to say, except for their own personal soul/choice, which they have already made pretty clear their choice.

I dunno...it wasn't really a choice when we sat down and educated ourselves and found out it was just old myth and borrowed stories from other cultures (yes, it really is.). It's like believing in Santa Clause- once you rationally figure out he cannot exist, it's ridiculous to "make the choice" of still believing in him and the magic he performs. Any reasonable person won't be able to do it. And saying it was our choice to educate ourselves is more of a compliment than an argumentative attack. But satan works in mysterious deceitiful ways, doesn't he?  ::)

And posting these types of threads in D+D, folding your arms, and not expecting to get in an argument is a poor choice anyway. Off-Topic ftw. Take yo holy jibba-jabba elsewhere!

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Where is this soul you speak of?

Well philosophically we cannot assert anything, but when you allow for the impossible/irrational/delusional in reasoning, anything is possible and can be real to the individual. But obviously you've known that for some time as I have.

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I hope you have a Merry Christmas

And a happy (originally pagan) christmas holiday to you too!
(lololol I'm just playin')
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: ULuvCeCe on December 24, 2010, 08:25:58 am

And posting these types of threads in D+D, folding your arms, and not expecting to get in an argument is a poor choice anyway. Off-Topic ftw.


For the record it is posted in D&D because it is  "A place to have political, religious, and other divisive discussions."

I get so annoyed when people post in the wrong threads and had I posted it in off-topic I'm sure you and others would have continued w/your opinions anyway so here is how it came to be

@marieelissa and jgribb thanks! :wave:
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: Falconer02 on December 24, 2010, 10:57:56 am
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For the record it is posted in D&D because it is  "A place to have political, religious, and other divisive discussions."

Debate and Discuss. "Enter at your own risk!"

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I get so annoyed when people post in the wrong threads and had I posted it in off-topic I'm sure you and others would have continued w/your opinions anyway so here is how it came to be

Us freethinkers don't hang out in Off-Topic much, so this wouldn't be the case. We had D+D made for this very reason-- too many la-dee-da threads like this one with the major argumentative ones.

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Even in the typical childhood fairytales the wicked eventually have to face justice (sometimes their demise) before the "good" can live "happily ever after"...

But it's still fiction.

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(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/1938/imagescam63hsq.jpg)

WAUGH
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: Falconer02 on December 24, 2010, 01:07:10 pm
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I think the difference is non-believers are hoping when they reach the end of their final chapter that is reads "THE END"

Nope. We're just not ones to blurt out how we think the movie's going to end and what is supposed to happen. We don't ruin it for the rest of the audience that is watching the movie. It's rude to assert the end of the film when you yourself don't even know it (you just think you do!). It's better to let the individuals come to their own conclusions before the movie ends than to tell them what you think you know will happen and guilt trip the naive.

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Because Jesus SAID so.  Either He was what He said He was...or He was the greatest fraud to ever live.

I believe seeing how most of his story-qualities come from other stories that existed before this apparent protagonist, and that there are decade-long gaps during his life and after his death where barely anything was written, and that when they actually started writing stuff about him it was full of inconsistencies, it's easy to conclude that if he even did exist, the people who wrote that stuff in (he's a god/son of a god, performs magic/miracles, etc.) changed him into a fraud to make him a more powerful martyr.

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Considering the average human lies a minimum of four times a day

Not all lies are bad though! But this is a philosophical conundrum and if we're going to be talking religious black+whites here, I dunno if we should go into it.

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Noone could find any fault with Him---has anyone EVER known anyone that they couldn't find any fault with?  Really?

Here's one- it's fiction.

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Noone has changed as many people's lives as Jesus has.  STILL TODAY, NOONE changes lives like Jesus can!

Norman Borlaug, Edward Jenner, Joseph Lister, Louis Pasteur are all > Jesus. Jesus just gives off an emotional high that is hard to give up because it makes you feel good. Maybe christians should dive a little deeper into their beliefs and see how many people murdered others in the name of them.
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: queenofnines on December 24, 2010, 01:51:34 pm
 
Even in the typical childhood fairytales the wicked eventually have to face justice (sometimes their demise) before the "good" can live "happily ever after"...

You think me and Falc are wicked?  Really?  Just for knowing things that you don't when it comes to that dogma of yours?

Christians sure are self-righteous...if you could only take a step back and get your head out of the imaginary heaven clouds you'd realize how horrible it is to promote this concept that YOU deserve a reward while I deserve to be burned FOREVER.  Thankfully I know there is not an ounce of truth to these ridiculous threats, but the scary thing is, YOU think they are reality!

How frightening that your mind most remain in a delusional state in order to believe in god.
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: Falconer02 on December 24, 2010, 02:03:24 pm
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You're talking movies?  I thought we were discussing books (fairytales, the Bible & such...).  I know how the book ends...you do too, whether you've read it or not.  

My point was you assert irrational things and it annoys everyone who does not believe what you do. Either way, blurting out what you think will happen at the end of a book or movie is ultimately rude. Yeah, we die. But you assert that it's happily ever after. For the free-thinkers, I suppose it's more "To be continued?".

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NOBODY dies deaths like that for a fraud

Suicide bombers?
Jim Jones' followers?
Jesu--oh wait.

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Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities----Truth isn't.

But, like I said, the truth of the matter is your protagonist resides on manipulations of other tales that happened before him. His story is fictitious, and the truth is it's from other tales.

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Yes. let's.  All the more easier for someone that knew Jesus to catch Him in a fib!!

Hmmmm...okay I'm just curious to what your answer would be in this situation. Let's say you're a cop and you get a call in to check out some drunk man that's getting violent in a bar. You get there and you take him outside after he started a dangerous brawl and he starts getting pushy and punches you. You handcuff him and just when you're about to read him his rights, he goes nuts and starts attacking again. You subdue him and take him to prison.

Now during his court date, you find out he has a really well-credited lawyer and that any loophole will for certain get the majority of the charges dropped. You also find out that this man is a bit unstable and will probably end up doing something similar (if not something worse) again in the future. The judge asks you "Did you read him his rights?". Do you lie knowing that this is perfect punishment for this man and you did a good deed keeping him off of the streets for the protection of many others, or do you tell the truth and, through his lawyer, he ultimately abuses the system and is let loose again?

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so how does what I wrote above apply to you & Falc?

Unless I'm mistaken, a while back you were beating around the bush of saying "They will end up in hell" because of our 'choices'. It's primitive cursing and is still offensive even if you hint at it. I know when we say the stories in your bible can be compared to fairy tales it is a bit rude, but we didn't make this thread promoting christian myth. No matter what other way you look at it aside from the christian bubble, that's what they are.
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: jcribb16 on December 24, 2010, 09:07:26 pm
 :cat:  Way to go, marie!
Sheryl, you have really made some great points in this thread. They are well thought out and to the point.

Merry Christmas!!  :)
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: Falconer02 on December 24, 2010, 09:39:20 pm
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Fairytales offer a  "to be continued" option?  I never knew that.

I think we're getting too splattered with this example. We don't believe that fairy tales happened. You made the example of us thinking it's "happily ever after" with you and it's "THE END" with us. I'm just floating around in your example and trying to correct what needs to be for it to make sense to both parties.

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Suicide Bombers & Jim Jones followers died slow, agonizing deaths similiar to the apostles' deaths?

My point was that people are willing to die for frauds even if it is painful.

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No beating around the bush, the Bible states people will be judged, justice will prevail and if people don't have Jesus in their lives before they die---Jesus makes no provision for them to be with Him in an afterlife. (Doesn't common sense there say why should he?)


This is evil though. And your beliefs promote this! It's rude to say everyone who does not have your protagonist in their lives will suffer. Unless you're making room for every other concept of an afterlife from the other various belief systems?
"Jesus saves! And redeems at your local superstore for cash value! You don't like my brand? Well ta hell with ya! Go get some other brand then!"

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Apologies for any non-intended primitive cursing and offensiveness but like I said before, you KNOW what the book says and how it ends without me saying a word

lol I think all of the freethinkers are getting used to it nowadays so don't think we're deeply and dramatically offended by it. It just gets annoying to constantly hear it. Especially outside of this forum.

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I say a word or two because to do otherwise is to hand satan your soul on a silver platter.

But we don't believe in Hades, Ament, Chu Jung, Duolai, Baron Samedi, etc. and especially the good ol' local Satan. I've got a lot of underworld antagonists to sort through here!

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but if you know what the thread is about and you know you are going to find it offensive then why show up...to get offended?

Because we don't really have a melting pot of beliefs in this forum. It gets kind of annoying to see a dozen christian threads before one actual philosophical one with different POV's being opened (I think we know of a certain someone who's to blame for most of it...). So yeah, I admit I was kinda trolling the thread originally just to joke around. Why? The OP was pretty corny.  :P

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It's been a year since I first "found" you guys on FC...looking forward to another year "d&d-ing" with ya!!    

And have a lovely and merry Christmas yourself! Have a good one with your family and dogs!!! It's snowing here. Aww yyyeeaahhh
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: ULuvCeCe on December 25, 2010, 09:45:08 am
Wow, this thread sure has grown! I am only able to skim right not but some very great points and arguments. I do hope that everyone has a great christmas, be safe!  :wave:
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: Falconer02 on December 25, 2010, 08:22:38 pm
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ONLY because it had been repeatedly stated in other posts (by qon, I'm not sure if also posted by you) that once one is dead, they are dead...so "end of story".  Believers believe in everlasting life...in Heaven with Jesus (aka "living happily ever after").  I wasn't trying to antagonize anyone, I was just using what had already been said in previous threads as an example USING what BOTH sides had posted that they believed

Ah.

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Peter walked on the water with Him.  And NOONE could find any fault with Him?

Yep. This story and all its characters are, without any skepticism needed, completely legit!  I have difficulty grasping why people say stuff like this can happen and then hold it without question. Look at what you typed here. It's fantasy. If I asserted that Muhummad went to heaven on a flying horse and was up there for years, or that Jesus touched a fragment of a UFO to gain his powers (scientology!), you'd understand how I feel right now.

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you wouldn't pursue legal action because justice is "evil"?  You don't think people should have to be accountable at all for their actions?

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”

-Epicurus

I would pursue it because I can actually see and interact with the legal action. I can bring strong and conventional proof to anyone who needs to know this. I can display different sides. No religious faith, cheap magic, ancient questionable texts, or would-be miracles are needed to justify anything in the actions.

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He's a fair God

I'll leave this one for QoN if she wants because this deity is furthest from fair.

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1.) this thread was started by posting various verses from the Bible---making this obviously a Bible-based thread

And that's why I came in! Mwahahaha!

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2.) Our Bible tells we are serving the ONE and ONLY God.  No other "religions" makes room for every other concept of an afterlife from other various belief systems so why should Christianity have to?

You make a decent point, but since I'm stricken with the free-thinking disease that gives me the perk of acknowledging everything, I must say that there's more than 1 god in the eyes of the world.

As far as "making room for other belief systems" goes with christianity, many of your beliefs come from other previous/various other belief systems. Even christmas having pagan roots is an example of that.

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don't believe in winter, yet it always arrives.  You might say that is a poor example since common sense says of course winter arrives---however, I still don't believe in it.

I don't think this example works very well because you're mixing conventional logic with religious logic. I can show you proof of winter. I can show you how the worlds weather works and why it comes each year. I can show you physical evidence. You can see, touch, breathe in, and taste the snow. You can even develop systems to acknowledge and deal with it like snow plowing or salting. But with religion...ehh...I'm sure you've seen this one before-
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/bspcn.com/SMgCW-YK0sI/AAAAAAAAC90/yO8bgvZj7ok/s800/2843905157_3abe047f44.jpg)

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Then they just quit posting in D&D altogether.  I agree it would be great to have many more others in D&D, I'm just not sure how to help that happen

*sigh* I miss Liljp and Walksalone  :(
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: Falconer02 on December 26, 2010, 12:38:20 am
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They got witnesses for the above?

As far as Muhummad goes, I'm certain any ancient witnesses to this account rival your own ancient witnesses. Unfortunately I do not have a backed up answer because I'm not as well versed in islams history (I'm n' uh-merr-ikayn!), but considering the masses of christians and muslims out there, I'm sure I'd get the same treatment if you were a muslim talking about jesus' legitimacy.

As far as scientology goes- I honestly hate scientology so I'm just going to end it here with that crooked business.

As far as aliens go, yes. People from different places claim to have seen the exact same things as others they have never talked to before. But bah humbug! Those people are nutjobs, aren't they?

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A written historical account?

Muhummad = Quran.
Aliens = N/A

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I found a site that has a little info on it that looks similiar to some of the things I was taught in high school

"Campus Crusade for Christ"? Hot dog! Where do I sign up?
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: queenofnines on December 26, 2010, 06:36:00 am
:peace:  Just to clarify:  
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"You made the example of us thinking it's "happily ever after" with you and it's "THE END" with us".  
ONLY because it had been repeatedly stated in other posts (by qon, I'm not sure if also posted by you) that once one is dead, they are dead...so "end of story".

And that is the difference between an atheist (me) and an agnostic (Falconer).  I don't leave room for unprovable possibilities that sound like pure fantasy (no offense, Falc).  I go with the facts: all evidence points to the very big fact that I was dead for billions of years before I was born.  Why?  I didn't have a brain that made me conscious.  When I die, my brain will stop working and decompose.  Thus, I will have nothing to be conscious with. 

Why the hell would I think that I magically get an immortal soul during the biological process of my mom's pregnancy, so that when I die, I won't actually be dead like I was before I was born?  There is no evidence of this except for a Bronze Era book written by primitive ancestors that says god knitted me in my mother's womb and that god knew me before I was born, but erased my memory and sent me to earth as a test that apparently I'm failing because I'm on the track to hell by Christianity's standards.  Does this sound nuts to anyone else?!  We don't take those goat herders' word when it comes to science, medicine, technology, ANYTHING else...but we trust that an omnipotent being revealed the secrets of the universe to people who didn't even know what electricity was?!

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Believers believe in everlasting life...in Heaven with Jesus (aka "living happily ever after").

No, most of you don't actually believe in it...you just HOPE for it.  If you really believed in it, you would not exercise regularly, watch your weight, take vitamins, seek medical attention ASAP during an emergency, get insurance policies, grieve over dead loved ones, do ANYTHING to prolong this crappy human life...

The Muslims of 9/11?  They BELIEVED.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMaK6k4oZ20
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: queenofnines on December 26, 2010, 10:50:41 am
Some people really have nice lives and don't mind living. Heaven can wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Uh huh.  Sure.  That's like saying would you rather have $100 or 1 million dollars.  $100 is nice, but it's NOTHING compared to 1 million dollars.  Y'all keep telling me how you just know heaven is going to be your own personal Disneyland, when the truth is, you're scared to die.  Excuses, excuses.
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: queenofnines on December 26, 2010, 11:02:39 am
So just because someone believes everything Jesus ever said including the talk of eternal life...they are just supposed to automatically start to purposely "deteriorate & vegitate" so they can get there quicker?

I'm saying Christians should WANT to get to heaven as fast as possible, but instead they treat death like the end as well.  Exercising everyday is artificially prolonging your life, and I thought god could kill you at any time, so the excuse that you're "helping him out" by keeping yourself healthy doesn't fly.   Sure you can try to make excuses about doing god's will, but that is really just a cover for being scared to die.  God doesn't need you to live until 80 to serve a purpose.  Most people, in fact, WON'T make a significant difference to humanity and will be quickly forgotten about when dead.
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: jcribb16 on December 26, 2010, 11:05:03 am
Quote from Falconer:
"So yeah, I admit I was kinda trolling the thread originally just to joke around. Why? The OP was pretty corny".

Quote from Sheryl:
 Later I realized that because this is a forum that it's harder to join in a "written conversation"  than it is to "pop in" a conversation in real life so actually, I think you did quite well with what you posted.    I do think there would be more of a "melting pot" of beliefs on here if people weren't "blasted" everytime they try to post something.  I've seen quite a bit of that---mainly newbies getting very rude remarks from other members when they post a belief of theirs (I don't recall where the "blasting" came from so don't think I am accusing anyone here).  Then they just quit posting in D&D altogether.  I agree it would be great to have many more others in D&D, I'm just not sure how to help that happen....

 :cat:
Honestly, I feel that's why D&D has been so quiet lately.  People got really tired of trying to discuss how they felt or what they believed, only to be made to look like bumbling idiots.  It's not fun to discuss and debate when you can't present your side without being cut-off constantly.  If views could be discussed back and forth without the name-calling and intimidations I think posters would come back on more.  Yes, it gets sparked, and that's normal. But there is a difference between sparked (disagreeing, but making points for either side), and intimidation (name-calling, total unacceptance of other people's views just because they don't believe the same, and rudeness, especially toward newbies and even seasoned posters.)  I could see that possibly in a "Belligerence Thread for Those Who Dare to Enter," but not just a debate and discuss thread where everyone's views are presented and debated.

Sheryl, I enjoy being a "furnace buddy," but I feel I haven't posted enough lately.  I do like the way you put that!!!  :)
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: jcribb16 on December 26, 2010, 11:27:53 am
So just because someone believes everything Jesus ever said including the talk of eternal life...they are just supposed to automatically start to purposely "deteriorate & vegitate" so they can get there quicker?

I'm saying Christians should WANT to get to heaven as fast as possible, but instead they treat death like the end as well.  Exercising everyday is artificially prolonging your life, and I thought god could kill you at any time, so the excuse that you're "helping him out" by keeping yourself healthy doesn't fly.   Sure you can try to make excuses about doing god's will, but that is really just a cover for being scared to die.  God doesn't need you to live until 80 to serve a purpose.  Most people, in fact, WON'T make a significant difference to humanity and will be quickly forgotten about when dead.

Christians do look forward to spending eternity with God, but it doesn't mean we don't want to live on earth for whatever lifespan we have. There's wonderful things to enjoy here on earth (family, friends, get-togethers, chuch, movies, shopping, trips, etc.) and in the meantime we fellowship with other believers, as well as nonbelievers, etc., and offer to share our Lord with others, in the hopes that they, too, will spend eternity with God. Yet, I realize there are others who are unhappy or hurting and don't wish to remain here for the rest of their lives. That is one of the harsh realities of life that is hard to deal with, not to mention extremely sad.

As for being afraid to die, that's an unknown for everyone.  Some people don't care either way about death.  Others are afraid of the pain of diseases, sickness, etc, and others are just plain scared to be alone when they are dying. But, there is a major difference between believers and nonbelievers, and that is no matter what we feel when we die, we WILL spend eternity with Him in Heaven.  Fear is a human emotion that is normal.

One other thing I disagree with you on, is that God has a purpose for anyone, whether or not they believe, and whatever age they may be, from the loss of a baby, a newborn, all the way through our elderly years for those who are able to live that long.  I know several sr. citizens who have led people to the Lord, brought together family members who were estranged, made a little child happy, shared tears with another sr. citizen friend, etc.  There is no limit as to what God can do.
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: Guillory30 on December 26, 2010, 07:08:53 pm
Not bad at all!!
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: MommyWifey08 on December 27, 2010, 12:39:24 pm
This was at a site a friend forwarded to me, I printed it to keep in my bible, maybe some of you would like it   :angel11:

Emergency Telephone Numbers
These are more effective than 911

When -
You are sad, phone John 14
You have sinned, phone Psalm 51
You are facing danger, phone Psalm 91
People have failed you, phone Psalm 27
It feels as though God is far from you, phone Psalm 139
Your faith needs stimulation, phone Hebrews 11
You are alone and scared, phone Psalm 23
You are worried, phone Matthew 8:19-34
You are hurt and critical, phone 1 Corinthians 13
You wonder about Christianity, phone 2 Corinthians 5:15-18
You feel like an outcast, phone Romans 8:31-39
You are seeking peace, phone Matthew 11:25-30
It feels as if the world is b igger than God, phone Psalm 90
You need Christ like insurance, phone Romans 8:1-30
You are leaving home for a trip , phone Psalm 121
You are praying for yourself, phone Psalm 87
You require courage for a task, phone Joshua 1
Inflation's and investments are hogging your thoughts, phone Mark 10:17-31
You are depressive, phone Psalm 27
Your bank account is empty, phone Psalm 37
You lose faith in mankind, phone 1 Corinthians 13
It looks like people are unfriendly, phone John 15
You are losing hope, phone Psalm 126
You feel the world is small comp ared to you, phone Psalm 19
You want to carry fruit, phone John 15
Paul's secret for happiness, phone Colossians 3:12-17
With big opportunity/ discovery, phone Isaiah 55
To get along with other people, phone Romans 12

ALTERNATE NUMBERS
For dealing with fear, call Psalm 47
For security, call Psalm 121:3
For assurance, call Mark 8:35
For reassurance, call Psalm 145:18

ALL THESE NUMBERS MAY BE PHONED DIRECTLY.
NO OPERATOR ASSISTANCE IS NECESSARY.
ALL LINES TO HEAVEN ARE AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A DAY.


 Thats cute Im gonna send it to my Nana she would love it
and people  dont be mean she was just sharing it - she didnt push it on you. Jeepers
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: amyrouse on December 27, 2010, 02:03:53 pm
Quote from Sheryl:
 Later I realized that because this is a forum that it's harder to join in a "written conversation"  than it is to "pop in" a conversation in real life so actually, I think you did quite well with what you posted.    I do think there would be more of a "melting pot" of beliefs on here if people weren't "blasted" everytime they try to post something.  I've seen quite a bit of that---mainly newbies getting very rude remarks from other members when they post a belief of theirs (I don't recall where the "blasting" came from so don't think I am accusing anyone here).  Then they just quit posting in D&D altogether.  I agree it would be great to have many more others in D&D, I'm just not sure how to help that happen....

 :cat:
Honestly, I feel that's why D&D has been so quiet lately.  People got really tired of trying to discuss how they felt or what they believed, only to be made to look like bumbling idiots.  It's not fun to discuss and debate when you can't present your side without being cut-off constantly.  If views could be discussed back and forth without the name-calling and intimidations I think posters would come back on more.  Yes, it gets sparked, and that's normal. But there is a difference between sparked (disagreeing, but making points for either side), and intimidation (name-calling, total unacceptance of other people's views just because they don't believe the same, and rudeness, especially toward newbies and even seasoned posters.)  I could see that possibly in a "Belligerence Thread for Those Who Dare to Enter," but not just a debate and discuss thread where everyone's views are presented and debated.

Sheryl, I enjoy being a "furnace buddy," but I feel I haven't posted enough lately.  I do like the way you put that!!!  :)

I haven't been posting as much lately because it seems that there isn't much to discuss, quite honestly.  Its all either religion or Off Topic in here lately, and the only replies have been replies to the original post without much time given to the discussion itself.  Its starting to feel like a waste of time in here anymore, when I used to be eager to come and join in a conversation, excited about what replies mine would get, and to be able to actually take the time to formulate a well thought out reply.  I don't feel the need to do that anymore, though, when I'm not getting that type of response.  Its very disheartening.

And...I miss Annella.   :crybaby2:
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: jcribb16 on December 28, 2010, 07:22:19 pm
 :cat:  I, too, miss Annella.  I also miss you (Amy), Sheryl, and Mackenzie!  I'm glad Marie and Sheryl have been in here!
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: Falconer02 on December 29, 2010, 08:09:18 pm
Quote
And that is the difference between an atheist (me) and an agnostic (Falconer).  I don't leave room for unprovable possibilities that sound like pure fantasy (no offense, Falc).  I go with the facts: all evidence points to the very big fact that I was dead for billions of years before I was born.  Why?  I didn't have a brain that made me conscious.  When I die, my brain will stop working and decompose.  Thus, I will have nothing to be conscious with. 

None taken! That's literally the only difference within the two beliefs and I find it completely acceptable.
Title: Re: Emergency Numbers
Post by: tigerlilly01 on December 30, 2010, 04:51:22 am
This was at a site a friend forwarded to me, I printed it to keep in my bible, maybe some of you would like it   :angel11:

Emergency Telephone Numbers
These are more effective than 911

When -
You are sad, phone John 14
You have sinned, phone Psalm 51
You are facing danger, phone Psalm 91
People have failed you, phone Psalm 27
It feels as though God is far from you, phone Psalm 139
Your faith needs stimulation, phone Hebrews 11
You are alone and scared, phone Psalm 23
You are worried, phone Matthew 8:19-34
You are hurt and critical, phone 1 Corinthians 13
You wonder about Christianity, phone 2 Corinthians 5:15-18
You feel like an outcast, phone Romans 8:31-39
You are seeking peace, phone Matthew 11:25-30
It feels as if the world is b igger than God, phone Psalm 90
You need Christ like insurance, phone Romans 8:1-30
You are leaving home for a trip , phone Psalm 121
You are praying for yourself, phone Psalm 87
You require courage for a task, phone Joshua 1
Inflation's and investments are hogging your thoughts, phone Mark 10:17-31
You are depressive, phone Psalm 27
Your bank account is empty, phone Psalm 37
You lose faith in mankind, phone 1 Corinthians 13
It looks like people are unfriendly, phone John 15
You are losing hope, phone Psalm 126
You feel the world is small comp ared to you, phone Psalm 19
You want to carry fruit, phone John 15
Paul's secret for happiness, phone Colossians 3:12-17
With big opportunity/ discovery, phone Isaiah 55
To get along with other people, phone Romans 12

ALTERNATE NUMBERS
For dealing with fear, call Psalm 47
For security, call Psalm 121:3
For assurance, call Mark 8:35
For reassurance, call Psalm 145:18

ALL THESE NUMBERS MAY BE PHONED DIRECTLY.
NO OPERATOR ASSISTANCE IS NECESSARY.
ALL LINES TO HEAVEN ARE AVAILABLE 24 HOURS A DAY.

God Bless you  .... I enjoyed this.  God is always there and always hears our prayers.  The Bible was given to us for direction and comfort.