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It seems that every where no there's a tsumami, earthquake, tornado and terrorist attacks.
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It seems that every where no there's a tsumami, earthquake, tornado and terrorist attacks.
I don't think the earth is coming to an end as it's billions of years old. I do think that Mother Earth is lashing back at the humans that are trying to destroy this beautiful planet, and a lot of human lives will be lost as a result.
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The world won't just "come to an end"......... "MAN" will destroy it! :'(
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The world as we know it will come to an end. For those who are anxiously awaiting the trump of the Lord, it will be an extremely better place. For those who haven't accepted the free invitation, this world will be unbelievably much worse which will end in fire & brimstone for those remaining who still haven't accepted the saving grace of Jesus Christ and blissful eternity in His presence.
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The world is not comming to an end! Or is it? If you read your bibles God states it will come like a thief in the night but the dead will arise or something like that, anyway he did said that these things will happen so we are living in the last days.
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well to be honest i felt that way for some years now! I have seen and heard sooo much thing happening all the time... crime, storms and weather changes :dontknow:....I just try to live and enjoy life b4 my time comes to a end....... :icon_rr:
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It seems that every where no there's a tsumami, earthquake, tornado and terrorist attacks
Gee, this sounds like the earth's and mankind's history in a nutshell! No, it's not coming to an end. Nothing you posted in this list is new. These things have always happened.
I do think that Mother Earth is lashing back at the humans that are trying to destroy this beautiful planet, and a lot of human lives will be lost as a result.
Now THIS is 100% truth. Water shortages, desertification, lack of new energy sources...we're expending way too many things (especially in this country). We need to get our act together and educate people around the world on why not to have more than 2 kids. In a worldly sense, we're like a virus on a human going "Wow! Look at all of this! All for me!". We've got to run parallel with nature and know how to limit ourselves before we screw ourselves over. Lack of education is the major tool in destroying us.
The world is not comming to an end! Or is it? If you read your bibles God states it will come like a thief in the night but the dead will arise or something like that, anyway he did said that these things will happen so we are living in the last days.
No...just...no. Close your bible and open a National Geographic sometime. Trust me, it's better for all of us if you do that.
I just try to live and enjoy life b4 my time comes to a end
Nothing wrong with that. Just leave some enjoyment left for the future!
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I honestly think no matter WHAT you believe in... if you look at the "signs" or what has been happening, and going on around you in recent times... then YES I think this is the "end of times".
If you know GOD, read your bible, know the bible and pay attention... then you should know or realize if this is not the "end of times" then it is not far off...
Even if you don't believe in GOD... still look at everything... look at the state of the world. Look at how close we are, and have been on the verge of a World War 3... and if you know anything about that, then you should know if there ever WAS a WW3 this world would not survive it. Just look at TV alone... and do not start yelling about freedom of speech when I say this... but just LOOK at what is allowed on TV now, versus even 10 years ago... 20, 50 years ago... Look at what this generation is being taught around them. Look at the LACK of values the average family brings their children up with. Look at all the violence, hatred, and intolerance around us. Look at what human beings are doing to each other. What is on the news every single day. Mothers killing their children, a person killing another person because they looked at them funny, shooting spree's almost becoming a monthly thing... People just don't value human life like they used to. So yeah I can see this being the "end of times" just based on this alone... because I can see the human race destroying itself, or most, just from maybe a WAR, or some other means one day soon.
As for nature... well either way you look at it... you might think GOD is behind this, or that mother nature is behind it, or that it is the human races fault... but however you look at it, it all comes down to the same thing... nature is not doing so well, and it is throwing bigger tantrums more and more often. Nature is kicking our asses all over the world, and nature could be the reason we are destroyed in the end, regardless if you believe GOD is behind it, human beings or just mother nature.
I personally believe that we are in the "end of times". I believe this has to do with GOD and the bible, but I also believe we human beings are playing our own part in it too, in a BIG way. From trashing the earth, to lack of values and morals, and etc...
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Even if you don't believe in GOD... still look at everything... look at the state of the world. Look at how close we are, and have been on the verge of a World War 3... and if you know anything about that, then you should know if there ever WAS a WW3 this world would not survive it. Just look at TV alone... and do not start yelling about freedom of speech when I say this... but just LOOK at what is allowed on TV now, versus even 10 years ago... 20, 50 years ago... Look at what this generation is being taught around them. Look at the LACK of values the average family brings their children up with. Look at all the violence, hatred, and intolerance around us. Look at what human beings are doing to each other. What is on the news every single day. Mothers killing their children, a person killing another person because they looked at them funny, shooting spree's almost becoming a monthly thing... People just don't value human life like they used to. So yeah I can see this being the "end of times" just based on this alone... because I can see the human race destroying itself, or most, just from maybe a WAR, or some other means one day soon.
One could argue that every single one of these things you've listed has always been around in cultures. I mean look at the Roman Colosseum-- families going to see armed slaves butchered in an arena as they are cheered on. It must have been like going to see a concert of movie. These negative traits you listed are just highlighted more often today due to how fast knowledge is able to travel via tv, phones, internet, etc. People killing people for stupid reasons is nothing new. I don't think at all that our current path is a 'sign of the last days' but more of a degradation of past values in this country. Values shift through time-- could get better or worse. So don't fret-- don't be the problem and spread around fear. Be the solution and educate people on how to fix certain problems. Pay it forward.
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"Pray it forward"
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"Pray it forward"
Nice excuse to do nothing vital to the problem.
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yes, i believe the world is coming to an end. black males are going to be put in FEMA camps and killied
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One cannot be sure that we are in end times, but the state of waring nations, maliciousness of our culture, and earthly phenomen certainly raise questions in my opinion.
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From CNN U.S.: "A widespread outbreak of severe weather across the Deep South may be one for the record books, as the National Weather Service received reports of more than 150 tornadoes.
"This could be one of the most devastating tornado outbreaks in the nation's history by the time it's over," CNN Meteorologist Sean Morris said". The unofficial number of twisters reported Wednesday by the Storm Prediction Center was 151. The same system continued to spin off tornadoes early Thursday.The long-term average for confirmed tornadoes in April is 116.
"The worst tornado outbreak in U.S. history occurred in April 1974, when 148 twisters touched down in 13 states over a 16-hour period, according to the National Weather Service. The agency said 330 people died and 5,484 were injured in a path of damage that covered more than 2,500 miles.
That month saw a total of 267 tornadoes -- the largest number recorded since 1950, according to the weather agency."
As usual, this is nothing new. Just a spike in occurences which is pretty normal. You also have to remember that our technology is better and we have truckloads of stormchasers chasing these things constantly, so I'm certain if you were to go back randomly in history, chances are you could find a much higher statistic of deadly tornadoes. You can read more about it here though-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado_records
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:25_deadliest_US_tornadoes
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There are many people that think the world is comming to an end, the truth is the world is very different then it used to be. The days are getting shorter each day, there are many easethquakes appearing, there are slot more sunami's, and the though of 2012 scares ALOT :)of people. We need to do all we can to keep mother earth clean, by not littering, picking up trash, not dumping trash into the oceans. We can save mother earth, we ALL need to pitch in and help.
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This world as we know it will definitely come to an end. However, the bible says no man knows the day or the hour. It behoves us to just be ready when Jesus Chrsit comes back.
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This world as we know it will definitely come to an end.
It's constantly coming to an end only to evolve into something better then before.
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I don't know if the world is coming to an end. But I've seen on the history channel that the Mayan calendar ends on 2012. The ancient calendars of the Chinese indicate that it stops on 2012. There mention of the end of the world in the writings of Nostradimous, whose famous for predicting WW2 & naming the Leader of the German forces. He misspelled Hitler's name by 1 letter,,,Hisler. He also predicted President Kennedy's assassination & more. The Egyptian calender also stops at 2012. So, could it be true that the end of the world is coming real soon? I hope not, I went thru hell in life & now after all this stress & hard work, the end is here??!! Well, if I'd knew this, before hand I would have partied more, not go to school, & just totally enjoy myself for once.
I don't want to believe it, remember Y2K when we were entering the 21th century? People were afraid the computers & electronics world wide will shut down & it would be world wide chaos. My husband & I were laughing at the people who were packing their camping equipment ready to rough it out when the electricity & comforts of home was going to shut down. Some also quit their jobs. And guess what, Y2K passed thru w/out even a whimper.
I hope this is the case for the 2012 end of the world prediction. If not, I would rather have the earth fall off it's axes & hurl into a mad dash into the sun. Believe me,you wouldn't feel a thing. You'd be dead in mili-seconds b/4 the earth even collides into the sun. Rather have that then suffer WW3 with humans killing humans for idiotic reasons. Great now I've depressed myself.... >:( :angry7: :( :'( :crybaby2:
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if it did end soon, we all would go on to a better life. spiritual world. why does death scare people?
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We are now one day closer.....
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The world is eventually gonna come to an end because the sun's gonna die out. Sun is just like the other stars. It will lose it's light and blow up. Thats the only way the Earth will get destroyed and that wont happen for like another billions of years. Unless if your a religious person, you probably gonna say *god will help us* or *god will destroy the earth*.....
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I belive some day. when I don't know.
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all of those catastrophes, earthquakes,hurricanes etc have to do with humans pollution and destruction of the world. the ozone layer etc. im sure theres some connection.
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The world is not coming to an end. "Mother Earth" is not lashing out against human beings. Humanities influence on the Earth is not causing some huge catastrophe. To even think that we humans can affect something so much bigger than we are is arrogant. Human beings, as we know it, are the only sentient beings on the planet that probably even thinks about our environment. The Earth is always changing and shifting. It has so for billions of years. Science has shown light as to the nature of the disasters that happen to us, and so we are seeing the affects of those disasters much clearer than just a few hundred years ago. Because of things like the Internet, we receive information a lot faster than those before us so disasters seem to happen much more often. Because there are a lot more human beings, disaster affect a larger number of humans.
I'm not saying the Earth is safe from sure destruction. Unless science allows us to move our Earth or prevent the coming disaster, in about 5,000,000,000 years the sun will loose all of its Hydrogen. As a result, it will being expanding to a size that it intercepts with Mercury, Venus, and probably Earth. Even if it doesn't touch the Earth, the radiation from the sun will be enough to turn the surface of the planet into a barren wasteland with not atmosphere. If humans are still around, they will most likely be off on some other planet. This is probably the most likely candidate for the complete destruction of our little planet.
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The world is eventually gonna come to an end because the sun's gonna die out. Sun is just like the other stars. It will lose it's light and blow up. Thats the only way the Earth will get destroyed and that wont happen for like another billions of years. Unless if your a religious person, you probably gonna say *god will help us* or *god will destroy the earth*.....
How is it that the Earth was made to be inhabited if he is going to make the planet uninhabitable(destroy it?)
For thus said Jehovah, Creator of heaven, He is God, Former of earth, and its Maker, He established it -- not empty He prepared it, For inhabiting He formed it: 'I am Jehovah, and there is none else.(Isaiah 45:18 Young's literal)
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THE WORLD THAT YOU HAVE BEEN LIVING IS COMING TO AN END.
THE FREEDOM THAT YOU HAVE WILL BE COMING TO AN END.
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No one can tell if the world will end or not but let's just prepare ourselves. specially nowadays there is a lot of calamities happening.
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Hi everybody,
I just started today and this is my first post, but I'd have to say the answer is yes and no. As we can all see, things around us are getting worse, but the earth will not be destroyed, not by humans or God. All the prophecies in the Bible have come true, and the Bible assures us that soon this world which has satanic and evil traits will be done away with, but the world of mankind will survive as will the physical earth. Now's the time to decide which side we want to stand on. Some people will stubbornly scoff but they did in Noah's day too when there was a flood and it didn't stop the flood, and we have tons of physical and scientific evidence to back up the account of the flood.
It's all in the Bible. Take the time and make the effort to search for and find the answers. God will answer your prayers and provide help for you to understand.
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All the prophecies in the Bible have come true
Which?
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The world as we know it will eventually end.
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All the prophecies in the Bible have come true
Which?
Even the most skeptical person has to admit the most dominant Governments in human history match the description of fragile yet strong as iron in the verses below.
38 and into whose hand he has given, wherever the sons of mankind are dwelling, the beasts of the field and the winged creatures of the heavens, and whom he has made ruler over all of them, you yourself are the head of gold.
39 “And after you there will rise another kingdom inferior to you; and another kingdom, a third one, of copper, that will rule over the whole earth.
40 “And as for the fourth kingdom, it will prove to be strong like iron. Forasmuch as iron is crushing and grinding everything else, so, like iron that shatters, it will crush and shatter even all these.
41 “And whereas you beheld the feet and the toes to be partly of molded clay of a potter and partly of iron, the kingdom itself will prove to be divided, but somewhat of the hardness of iron will prove to be in it, forasmuch as you beheld the iron mixed with moist clay. 42 And as for the toes of the feet being partly of iron and partly of molded clay, the kingdom will partly prove to be strong and will partly prove to be fragile. 43 Whereas you beheld iron mixed with moist clay, they will come to be mixed with the offspring of mankind; but they will not prove to be sticking together, this one to that one, just as iron is not mixing with molded clay.(Daniel 2:38:43)
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Even the most skeptical person has to admit the most dominant Governments in human history match the description of fragile yet strong as iron in the verses below.
You do understand that these aren't prophecies at all, right? A prophecy needs specific names of things and people, needs precise dates, and detailed explanations of things to come. What you have is a self-fulfilling prophecy and a ridiculously vague one seeing how it's using primitive examples like copper and animals.
SF prophecy = a prophecy declared as truth when it is actually false may sufficiently influence people, either through fear or logical confusion, so that their reactions ultimately fulfill the once-false prophecy.
The self-fulfilling prophecy is, in the beginning, a false definition of the situation evoking a new behaviour which makes the original false conception come 'true'. This specious validity of the self-fulfilling prophecy perpetuates a reign of error. For the prophet will cite the actual course of events as proof that he was right from the very beginning
This is how you should learn to interpret things as prophecies- Let's pretend it's August 2001 and I told you that there would be a large attack in New York in September. Would that be a prophecy once 9/11 came around? No! I didn't tell you anything but that an attack would happen. It could have been some no-name gang fight, a car bombing, or a sports riot. If I were to tell you 2 planes would crash in NY, that still wouldn't make it a prophecy because I didn't specify anything at all above that. It could have been 2 Cessnas with drunk pilots.
If I had said it was Al-Queda, had the flight numbers, the names of the people on the flights along with the terrorist's names, what buildings they would hit, who would die in the buildings, what time it would happen precisely, which fire fighters would arrive first, and that Bush wouldn't respond immediately to the disaster, then it could be a prophecy. I would have had precise information that nobody could have predicted or aligned perfectly with what happened. Specific information is required for a prophecy, and the bible has none. Read them again and apply what I've written here. They're vague and nonsensical.
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Even the most skeptical person has to admit the most dominant Governments in human history match the description of fragile yet strong as iron in the verses below.
You do understand that these aren't prophecies at all, right? A prophecy needs specific names of things and people, needs precise dates, and detailed explanations of things to come. What you have is a self-fulfilling prophecy and a ridiculously vague one seeing how it's using primitive examples like copper and animals.
SF prophecy = a prophecy declared as truth when it is actually false may sufficiently influence people, either through fear or logical confusion, so that their reactions ultimately fulfill the once-false prophecy.
The self-fulfilling prophecy is, in the beginning, a false definition of the situation evoking a new behaviour which makes the original false conception come 'true'. This specious validity of the self-fulfilling prophecy perpetuates a reign of error. For the prophet will cite the actual course of events as proof that he was right from the very beginning
This is how you should learn to interpret things as prophecies- Let's pretend it's August 2001 and I told you that there would be a large attack in New York in September. Would that be a prophecy once 9/11 came around? No! I didn't tell you anything but that an attack would happen. It could have been some no-name gang fight, a car bombing, or a sports riot. If I were to tell you 2 planes would crash in NY, that still wouldn't make it a prophecy because I didn't specify anything at all above that. It could have been 2 Cessnas with drunk pilots.
If I had said it was Al-Queda, had the flight numbers, the names of the people on the flights along with the terrorist's names, what buildings they would hit, who would die in the buildings, what time it would happen precisely, which fire fighters would arrive first, and that Bush wouldn't respond immediately to the disaster, then it could be a prophecy. I would have had precise information that nobody could have predicted or aligned perfectly with what happened. Specific information is required for a prophecy, and the bible has none. Read them again and apply what I've written here. They're vague and nonsensical.
You come up with a better description for future events 4,000 years ago!!!!!!!! I also don't see how self fulfilling prophecies is not prophecy.
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No I DON'T THINK THE WORLD IS ENDING. BUT I DO THINK MOTHER NATURE IS GETTING BACK AT WHAT MAN HAS DONE TO THE EARTH AND SENDING THOUGHS SHUTTLES UP.
I CAN SEE IMPROVING SOMETHINGS,BUT DON'T MISS WITH MOTHER NATURE
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All the prophecies in the Bible have come true
Which?
There are scores of prophecies in the Bible about the Christ being born. A man, named Jesus, fulfilled every single one of those prophecies written about him and literally there are hundreds. Where he would be born, which town, which tribe of Israel he would be born into, which part of Isreal he would be from, how he would act, the manner in which he would die....no one could have or did fulfill all these prophecies. And there is substantial historical evidence that they were written far before he was born to earth, and evidence that he was, in fact, a real person.
The example of Jesusmis just one, albeit the best, example of prophecies in the Bible being faithfully fulfilled. But there are many more. Some we have yet to experience.
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yes, i believe the world is coming to an end. black males are going to be put in FEMA camps and killied
What are you talking about?? :bs:
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You come up with a better description for future events 4,000 years ago!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't in the first place because I'm not a superstitious fearmongering dunce looking to sway gullibles.
I also don't see how self fulfilling prophecies is not prophecy
Did you even read my example? let me cut it down for you-
"There's gonna be an attack in NY next month!"
"Really? By who? Where? When exactly? Why? Will people die?"
"OMG LOOK THEY HIT THE WTC! IT'S GONE! IM A PROPHET!"
"Uhhh...No. You're not."
I can take any of the biblical "prophecies" you posted and align them with practically anything and anywhere in the past and/or present in the same respect. Every single one I could write up would fall under a self-fulfilled prophecy.
There are scores of prophecies in the Bible about the Christ being born. A man, named Jesus, fulfilled every single one of those prophecies written about him and literally there are hundreds. Where he would be born, which town, which tribe of Israel he would be born into, which part of Isreal he would be from, how he would act, the manner in which he would die....no one could have or did fulfill all these prophecies. And there is substantial historical evidence that they were written far before he was born to earth, and evidence that he was, in fact, a real person.
The example of Jesusmis just one, albeit the best, example of prophecies in the Bible being faithfully fulfilled. But there are many more. Some we have yet to experience.
You do know that the whole Jesus story follows a mythical quest pattern, right? http://department.monm.edu/classics/courses/clas230/mythdocuments/heropattern/default.htm How can you trust something that's so obviously fake? Post some historical evidences if you have some.
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yes, i believe the world is coming to an end. black males are going to be put in FEMA camps and killied
What are you talking about?? :bs:
Yeah, wth? People need to get a clue. We are living in the end times - period dot. Color has NOTHING to do with it. If we don't wake up and clean up our act we will ALL be in FEMA camps. Come on Sheeple! Open your eyes!
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The world won't just "come to an end"......... "MAN" will destroy it! :'(
slowly but surely it is. you can the signs of times happening now with a little help of self destruct.
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true but really
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The world won't just "come to an end"......... "MAN" will destroy it! :'(
slowly but surely it is. you can the signs of times happening now with a little help of self destruct.
Yes it's all a self fulfilling prophecy :P(sarcasm)
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Yes it's all a self fulfilling prophecy (sarcasm)
I've given you plenty of proof that they are. Take your head out of the sand for a moment. Or don't-- you've got the right to be a major problem with the world.
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Yes it's all a self fulfilling prophecy (sarcasm)
I've given you plenty of proof that they are. Take your head out of the sand for a moment. Or don't-- you've got the right to be a major problem with the world.
Here's some "pseudo" science for ya. The Spanish flu killed 20% of the world's population in 1918, it was the biggest death from pestilence ever recorded. World war 1 and 2 combined had more people killed then all the wars since the beginning of time!!!
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Here's some "pseudo" science for ya. The Spanish flu killed 20% of the world's population in 1918, it was the biggest death from pestilence ever recorded. World war 1 and 2 combined had more people killed then all the wars since the beginning of time!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic
"Between 50 and 100 million died"
"Even using the lower estimate of 50 million people, 8% of the world's population (1.8 billion at the time[9]), died of the disease. Some 550 million, or 32% (¡Ö1/4) were infected."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
Let's say you lived between 1338-1351. Bubonic plague kills over 100 million people. That's not including other parts of the world like it sprouting up in China. There were an estimated 300 million people on the planet then, so that's over 33% and that's a much larger percentage than the future death tolls. And look at the Plague of Justinian! That was in the year 541!
Aside from all of this, you could compare your vague prophecies to diseases and wars back then. So yeah- what you stated was partial pseudoscience and you've again demonstrated self-fulfilling prophecies. If in the near future there is a plague and/or a big war, I could bet a lot of money that religion would use that as the next SF prophecy.
Considering there have been hundreds of deadly plagues and diseases throughout history and that we have the knowledge now to erradicated many of them and fight them off decently shows vast improvement of life. So things are much better than they were in the past. What's your point? You're constantly falling for these self-fulfilled prophecies here and you have yet to prove one thing that does not escape that obvious broken and vague reasonings. Not to get personal but JW's have predicted the end 8 times in the past, ruined lots of lives due to it, and have always been wrong and have never "manned-up" to say that they were wrong to people and they just brush it off like it never happened or reword it to make it sound more legit (a self fulfilling propechy). So I'm not really surprised at all that you're falling for this stuff.
http://www.truthnet.org/Christianity/cults/Jehovahwitnessesfalseprophecies.html
http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm
http://mmoutreachinc.com/jehovahs_witnesses/prophet_among.html
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YES, everything has a begining and an end, the world is no different........GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY ELSE!!!!
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I believe that some time in the future, some where on earth, a lot of people will die. Does this make a prophet?
An unspecific reference of time, with an certain but vague location, along with a very probable but ordinary outcome.
By today's standards, yes. This does make me a prophet.
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The world won't just "come to an end"......... "MAN" will destroy it! :'(
slowly but surely it is. you can the signs of times happening now with a little help of self destruct.
Yes it's all a self fulfilling prophecy :P(sarcasm)
Post FC CHECKS in Payment area not debate areas Teflon LOL
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Silly people
No the WORLD is NOT going NOWHERE....JUst the particles, peoples, Animals,Fishes, amphibians,Birds, buildings vehicles, homes, trees, etc on the surface that isnt of GOD is going to be REMOVED........to be more precise WHEAT and TARES .....sifting process meaning to not eliminate the Wheat (righteous people) GOD have to Shake everything up and about to Weed out the TARES (Unrighteous people) that might hide amongst the Wheat (righteous people)...Is how he will clear up and clean off the EARTH..Look at the religious people mixing with other religious people ...blending to hide to be saved on that terrible.....YOu can run but NO one can HIDE..from Gods eyes....he knew us before we were born and know exactly where we are at at all times............Jeremiah 1: 4
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Here's some "pseudo" science for ya. The Spanish flu killed 20% of the world's population in 1918, it was the biggest death from pestilence ever recorded. World war 1 and 2 combined had more people killed then all the wars since the beginning of time!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic
"Between 50 and 100 million died"
"Even using the lower estimate of 50 million people, 8% of the world's population (1.8 billion at the time[9]), died of the disease. Some 550 million, or 32% (¡Ö1/4) were infected."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
Let's say you lived between 1338-1351. Bubonic plague kills over 100 million people. That's not including other parts of the world like it sprouting up in China. There were an estimated 300 million people on the planet then, so that's over 33% and that's a much larger percentage than the future death tolls. And look at the Plague of Justinian! That was in the year 541!
Aside from all of this, you could compare your vague prophecies to diseases and wars back then. So yeah- what you stated was partial pseudoscience and you've again demonstrated self-fulfilling prophecies. If in the near future there is a plague and/or a big war, I could bet a lot of money that religion would use that as the next SF prophecy.
Considering there have been hundreds of deadly plagues and diseases throughout history and that we have the knowledge now to erradicated many of them and fight them off decently shows vast improvement of life. So things are much better than they were in the past. What's your point? You're constantly falling for these self-fulfilled prophecies here and you have yet to prove one thing that does not escape that obvious broken and vague reasonings. Not to get personal but JW's have predicted the end 8 times in the past, ruined lots of lives due to it, and have always been wrong and have never "manned-up" to say that they were wrong to people and they just brush it off like it never happened or reword it to make it sound more legit (a self fulfilling propechy). So I'm not really surprised at all that you're falling for this stuff.
http://www.truthnet.org/Christianity/cults/Jehovahwitnessesfalseprophecies.html
http://www.religioustolerance.org/end_wrl2.htm
http://mmoutreachinc.com/jehovahs_witnesses/prophet_among.html
I can't find those bubonic plague statistics anywhere!! As for predicting the end of the world meh none taken they probably did, what I know is that some thought they were going to get to heaven before the end came and I do know the society bought a "house of the princes" in 1935. You still have to explain world war's 1 and 2 though :)
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I can't find those bubonic plague statistics anywhere!!
That's why I supplied links. Do some more research outside of the WTBTS. Also add smallpox to that list-- it killed well over 300 million people which is well above the death toll of ww1 and 2 combined. It was killing an average of 400,000 people per year in 18th century Europe. Keep in mind that it wasn't erradicated till 1980.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox
As for predicting the end of the world meh none taken they probably did, what I know is that some thought they were going to get to heaven before the end came and I do know the society bought a "house of the princes" in 1935.
I have no idea what you're getting at here.
You still have to explain world war's 1 and 2 though
A huge war started in 1914 and ended in 1918 just as huge wars had come and gone in the past. But then there was another. And then there was another. And then there was another. And then there was another. And then there was another. And then there was another. And then there was another. Thing is, the "prophecy" was completely wrong from the get-go and JW's kept pushing it further into the future. And then it was wrong again. And again. And again. And...you get the picture. But did they admit their mistakes? Did they apologize? You see, JW's trip themselves up with their own literature and then cover their tracks of false prophecies which is just a failure of epic proportions. I've experienced this first-hand when talking to them-- how they simply work their way around the facts. This easily proves that their history of such things makes them world champions of false prophecy. But don't take my word for it-
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/140408/1/Stay-Alive-to-75-MP3-Talk
Here's a link with an mp3 download so you can hear it from the mouths of the higher-ups during an assembly. There really is no big difference between the predictions your religion made and what Harold Camping is doing right now. Sorry to break it to ya, but the world ain't endin' for billions of years. Hopefully we'll be out exploring the stars and terraforming other planets by that time 8)
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It's already started, since mother nature is :angry7: at us for causing all this chaos and pollution on her earth. :peace:
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I feel that if the world is ending then by god I am ready to meet my maker! Who am I to say that it is or not! If so K if not more time with family it is!
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Not anytime soon! people should quit being so perrnoid and just live their lives! if the end of the world really was next year, i would hate knowing that i spent the last year of my life worrying about the end when i could have been living it up! nobody is promised tomorrow and we are supposed to live each day as if it were our last anyways! so stop worrying and just live!
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nonoooononoo
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I can't find those bubonic plague statistics anywhere!!
That's why I supplied links. Do some more research outside of the WTBTS. Also add smallpox to that list-- it killed well over 300 million people which is well above the death toll of ww1 and 2 combined. It was killing an average of 400,000 people per year in 18th century Europe. Keep in mind that it wasn't erradicated till 1980.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox
As for predicting the end of the world meh none taken they probably did, what I know is that some thought they were going to get to heaven before the end came and I do know the society bought a "house of the princes" in 1935.
I have no idea what you're getting at here.
You still have to explain world war's 1 and 2 though
A huge war started in 1914 and ended in 1918 just as huge wars had come and gone in the past. But then there was another. And then there was another. And then there was another. And then there was another. And then there was another. And then there was another. And then there was another. Thing is, the "prophecy" was completely wrong from the get-go and JW's kept pushing it further into the future. And then it was wrong again. And again. And again. And...you get the picture. But did they admit their mistakes? Did they apologize? You see, JW's trip themselves up with their own literature and then cover their tracks of false prophecies which is just a failure of epic proportions. I've experienced this first-hand when talking to them-- how they simply work their way around the facts. This easily proves that their history of such things makes them world champions of false prophecy. But don't take my word for it-
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/140408/1/Stay-Alive-to-75-MP3-Talk
Here's a link with an mp3 download so you can hear it from the mouths of the higher-ups during an assembly. There really is no big difference between the predictions your religion made and what Harold Camping is doing right now. Sorry to break it to ya, but the world ain't endin' for billions of years. Hopefully we'll be out exploring the stars and terraforming other planets by that time 8)
1. All the links I used to support my statistics was outside the WTBTS.
2. I'm saying that most or some or maybe all(I don't know) thought that they will be going to heaven(raptured up) before the end of the world came in 1925 and the then president Rutherford bought a house for the princes in 1935 for faithful men of old he thought was going to return.
3. You still haven't shown some statistics that out do the world wars :)
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All the links I used to support my statistics was outside the WTBTS.
I skimmed the thread and, unless I'm wrong, I don't see one source from you aside from quoting the bible. Your statistics were way off anyways.
I'm saying that most or some or maybe all(I don't know) thought that they will be going to heaven(raptured up) before the end of the world came in 1925 and the then president Rutherford bought a house for the princes in 1935 for faithful men of old he thought was going to return.
During the great depression too. Nevermind all of the poor and suffering people-- especially those who sold all of their belongings subscribing to this false prophet. Wow. How is this not delusional douchebaggery?
3. You still haven't shown some statistics that out do the world wars
Why do I need to at this point? I've already proved the prophecies wrong from the get-go. The information has already been posted.
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All the links I used to support my statistics was outside the WTBTS.
I skimmed the thread and, unless I'm wrong, I don't see one source from you aside from quoting the bible. Your statistics were way off anyways.
I'm saying that most or some or maybe all(I don't know) thought that they will be going to heaven(raptured up) before the end of the world came in 1925 and the then president Rutherford bought a house for the princes in 1935 for faithful men of old he thought was going to return.
During the great depression too. Nevermind all of the poor and suffering people-- especially those who sold all of their belongings subscribing to this false prophet. Wow. How is this not delusional douchebaggery?
3. You still haven't shown some statistics that out do the world wars
Why do I need to at this point? I've already proved the prophecies wrong from the get-go. The information has already been posted.
1. Srry about that here's some links below
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol12no01/05-0979.htm http://www.threeworldwars.com/overview.htm
2. I don't disagree that he made an *bleep* of himself he even admitted it and it's in the watchtower CD :BangHead:
3. You showed a flaw in the pestilence getting worse argument but ou have yet to do the same for the world wars ;D
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The preacher has changed JUDGEMENT DAY to 10/21/11. :peace:
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Srry about that here's some links below
Getting infected isn't the same as dying from a disease. There have been plenty of diseases through history that make people sick but the body can handle it, fights it off, and the person survives and goes on about their lives. Again, you can apply that prophecy to any of the times there were plagues rising. It's the same with wars-- there were massive wars throughout history and considering the populations then were vastly smaller then they are now, the percentage of those killed probably would be around the same as the world wars. I used the same reasoning via the plague example earlier.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_anthropogenic_disasters_by_death_toll
Granted the World Wars are still high on the list, look at the dates and losses of the others around them.
Ultimately these prophecies are still wrong because it does not give precise dates and in-depth descriptions of any of the events. Nostradamus has more weight in his predictions due to this simple fact. Both are still ludicrous though.
2. I don't disagree that he made an *bleep* of himself he even admitted it and it's in the watchtower CD
False prophet + *bleep* = spokesperson for any religion. Sounds about right! lol
3. You showed a flaw in the pestilence getting worse argument but ou have yet to do the same for the world wars
Refer to my 1st paragraph.
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I'm going to just say no! LOL
What we are seeing is not the BIG PICTURE.....it's a little tiny slice of the Earth's vast history. Looking at the weather over the course of time that we have been recording it and making predictions is like peeing in the ocean taking a sample of where we peed and making predictions about the state of the rest of the ocean. Throughout the Earth's history there have been many many many changes....ice ages, periods where the entire planet is almost tropical, entire continents have smashed together and broken apart again. IMHO it is conceited of us to think that we have such an influence over these things that it is "all our fault" maybe...maybe we are influencing it the slightest bit but I honestly believe that if we stopped all Greenhouse gas emissions, drilling, started conserving water, used solar energy etc etc etc that the planet would still be warming up, we would still be having earthquakes and extreme weather. If we stopped EVERYTHING we could possibly buy ourselves 20 maybe 50 years on the outside. I'm not saying that we shouldn't try to protect our planet and yes we are doing damage...mostly to other animals habitats but I think that it is a little much to say that we actually CAUSED this to happen!
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I don't think it will happen in my lifetime. Stuff happens all the time, and has all throughout history.
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I don't think it will happen in my lifetime. Stuff happens all the time, and has all throughout history.
I just believe the world will end eventually practically sometime after 1914 obviously :P
P.S. Sir Isaac Newton said the world's going to end in 2060...
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The world is not comming to an end! Or is it? If you read your bibles God states it will come like a thief in the night but the dead will arise or something like that, anyway he did said that these things will happen so we are living in the last days.
I totally agree with you, and another thing the Bible dose say that no body knows when is the end of the world not even the angels of heaven or the Son of God knows only God the father... ;)