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Discussion Boards => Off-Topic => Debate & Discuss => Topic started by: Jelliott2626 on April 28, 2011, 03:04:12 pm
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my question to all who respond, Should canabus be legal in all 50 states or not. Let me know!!!!
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Is this people's big issue? I say we try and help people who don't have jobs and can't feed their families. Or help people with the whole health care situation. Not focus on people who want to get high.
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Is this people's big issue? I say we try and help people who don't have jobs and can't feed their families. Or help people with the whole health care situation. Not focus on people who want to get high.
It is a big issue. Focusing on people getting high will create jobs so they unemployed can feed their families. It would also reduce a truckload of crime if our gov't is regulating it rather than armed criminals. A major reason it's illegal is because pharmaceutical companies would lose a lot of money since mj can blur the pain of an individual.
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I do not think the drug should be legalized in all 50 states because it takes the user out of reality. Mind altering drugs are dangerous to all involved because the user cannot function rationally while using or being addicted to them. Also, this is a huge funder for terriorist organizations. I believe legalizing it would only increase production and income for them. All factors taken into account, this definitely does not promote the common good.
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Yes, it should be legalized. Too any good benefits could come from the commercializm of cannibus. Who knows, they may even be able to find some hidden alternative energy source!!
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I do not think the drug should be legalized in all 50 states because it takes the user out of reality. Mind altering drugs are dangerous to all involved because the user cannot function rationally while using or being addicted to them.
It does not really take you out of reality and I have seen plenty of people function rationally (in both a heightened or lazy sense). You cannot get addicted to marijuana.
Also, this is a huge funder for terriorist organizations.
Umm...legalizing it would cut their funding.
All factors taken into account, this definitely does not promote the common good.
You're aware that booze and cigs are legal, right? Both of these are really bad sources of addiction and health problems. Marijuana is neither.
Who knows, they may even be able to find some hidden alternative energy source!!
Interesting! Never thought about that. Hemp is a strong material, but expending it in a vehicle tank would get everyone high! lol
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My vote would be for not making in legal however if there was some medicinal value for those with terminal diseases then I probably would support it as a prescription drug. I'm sure sure some of the prescription drugs that are currently available can be as mind altering.
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Who knows, they may even be able to find some hidden alternative energy source!!
Interesting! Never thought about that. Hemp is a strong material, but expending it in a vehicle tank would get everyone high! lol
Has someone been watching Cheech and Chong? lol
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Has someone been watching Cheech and Chong?
My coworker asks me that all the time. And we're not even talking about drugs.
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The problem here is that in this cannabis the active substance isn’t THC but some chemical formula with the same effects as THC and sometimes much stronger. There are even cases where people die from an overdose which is not possible with normal THC.
I believe that we have to protect people from this stuff but that isn’t easy because these chemical components are not prohibited. Even when they change the law and such a chemical formula is forbidden, the producents only have to change the structure a little bit so they are always one step ahead on the legal system.
Because of all these different formula’s an effective saliva test is not possible so users can not get caught.
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If you want to save people from "harmful" stuff, you had better get a bigger shovel. Alcohol causes more problems in our nation than any other drug out there.
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i think it should... if the govt would tax it like they do cigs we would be out of debt in prob a couple yrs
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If that is tha case, people get addicted to dranks and coke. Weeds; ppl think it's a drug. But it is a plant and you can grow it. Then you can smoke it. Ppl get high ever day. When you are in pain you get drugs to help tha pain, if you keep taking it, it can also be addictive. But what am I to say: Trust if tha 50 states can find away 2 taxes it. It will be legal and everybody would smoke. You would be surpise who smokes around you. The fact that you can get THC (WEED) in so many ways.... YOu would never know what you are drinking nor eating... They have it in cooking oil, foods and damn near anything you can think of.... It is just a matter of time people...
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I think out economy would get a boost if it was legal, but the cartels in mexico would go on a killing spree, because they would loose some of their power!!!
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Of course it should be legal. I don't do it, but that's a choice. I wouldn't do it if it were legal. This isn't some meth lab drug where you don't know what's in it. it grows in the ground. It's not like if it were legal the whole country would become a Pauly Shore movie. A company can still make you test negative for it. I doubt people that don't smoke are afraid of legal consequences.
Here is the thing pot heads... I don't want you driving on it. So you gotta give up some privacy to make it legal. You get busted driving high, you gotta fill a cup with pee on the side of the road. ROW AD... Road...
Legalize it! Give the Police more time to write tickets for going 3mph over the speed limit.
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I don't smoke pot now, and unless I was very ill and needed it for medical reasons I wouldn't smoke it if it was legal. However, I think it's pointless and a waste that it continues to be illegal. And even more than that, I think it's heartless that anyone suffering who doesn't live in a medical marijuana state should live in fear that they'll be arrested.
I think the jump from illegal to legal is too big, especially with so much misinformation in many people's minds. I think the start should be decriminalization, and then start a transition to legal.
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Yes, I think it should be legal for medical patients. medical patients need protection though. It is not very safe since illegal druggies will always be trying to rip you off. Illegal growers offering to help the medical patients grow their plants is another scam to watch out for. If you are approved for a legal license you have to be very careful and keep it to yourself.
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There are definitely pros and cons to both sides of this debate. Personally I do not think it should be legalized because people will be even more apt to not working. I have seen so many people waste away their lives on this stuff. They went from spending all of their money on weed and not being able to provide to not even showing up to work because they were too high which only furthered the problem. I would be fine with it being legal if people would not over-endulge. But that is just a part of life, especially in today's society. If the intake of it was kept under control where it didn't affect the public's lifestyle I would be all for it because of the economic ups, however I do not see that happening.
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There are definitely pros and cons to both sides of this debate. Personally I do not think it should be legalized because people will be even more apt to not working. I have seen so many people waste away their lives on this stuff. They went from spending all of their money on weed and not being able to provide to not even showing up to work because they were too high which only furthered the problem. I would be fine with it being legal if people would not over-endulge. But that is just a part of life, especially in today's society. If the intake of it was kept under control where it didn't affect the public's lifestyle I would be all for it because of the economic ups, however I do not see that happening.
Wrong. Usually there isn't a right or wrong answer in an opinion question but you have done it. The people who waster their lives away smoke weed NOW. They were going to do it whether or not it was legal. You are either a loser or not. Not many people will statistically become fans of the band Phish becuase a barely illegal drug becomes legal.
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I am basically dumbfounded I dont know if that is the correct word. I am not sure if they should or shouldnt. I mean would it increase car deaths? Would it still have the same chemicals in it if it was legal? And if we were to legalize marijuana what would be next? People who make profit from it would just be more in demand because once its legalized its not going to be as popular. Just like alcohol is england it isnt as popular because unlike the states they dont have to wait until they are 21 to consume it. regardless of what happens there are still going to be something illegal going on...
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Quote from: mh874892 on May 17, 2011, 01:35:20 pm
There are definitely pros and cons to both sides of this debate. Personally I do not think it should be legalized because people will be even more apt to not working. I have seen so many people waste away their lives on this stuff. They went from spending all of their money on weed and not being able to provide to not even showing up to work because they were too high which only furthered the problem. I would be fine with it being legal if people would not over-endulge. But that is just a part of life, especially in today's society. If the intake of it was kept under control where it didn't affect the public's lifestyle I would be all for it because of the economic ups, however I do not see that happening.
Wrong. Usually there isn't a right or wrong answer in an opinion question but you have done it. The people who waster their lives away smoke weed NOW. They were going to do it whether or not it was legal. You are either a loser or not. Not many people will statistically become fans of the band Phish becuase a barely illegal drug becomes legal.
Well, if it is legalized then the overall cost will go down and these same losers will be able to buy more and more of it. These are the people that my tax money goes to and it sucks. Sorry, but your argument is weak.
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I don't rely on the government making drugs illegal so that I wont make the mistake of taking them. I don't know any rational human being that says that because the government made drugs illegal, they decided not to take drugs. Just because the government didn't make punching myself illegal doesn't mean I am going to go off and start punching myself. On the flip side, just because the government made something illegal doesn't mean its necessarily bad for you. The government is not infallible. If they where to make apples illegal it doesn't mean apples have become bad for you. My main point is that the government has no authority to say what is or isn't bad for you and that their decisions does not impact nor affect that reality.
Marijuana is probably the best example of this. Marijuana wasn't made illegal because of public safety, it was made illegal because of racism. It wasn't justified by throughly scientific and objective research, it was justified with now debunked research. Marijuana hasn't killed anyone from just taking it, and it hasn't made everyone who smoked it a criminal (my definition of criminal is an act that harms another individual, I don't rely on the government to give me the definition of criminal). But worse of all is the fact that the government is hypocritical. Marijuana is a drug that is not directly harmful, addictive, doesn't harm one's rational thinking to an extent that they would commit crimes, and in fact has been used to help those medically and has been studied extensively, and is illegal. Alcohol is a drug that is directly harmful, has killed people from being overly intoxicated, addictive, does harm one's rational thinking to an extent that they would commit crimes, and is legal. Regardless of your beliefs that any drug should be illegal, this goes to show that the government is not always correct in their thinking and we should rely on them for such matters. The government should not be involved in prohibition of anything.
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Well, if it is legalized then the overall cost will go down and these same losers will be able to buy more and more of it. These are the people that my tax money goes to and it sucks. Sorry, but your argument is weak
I was an hour late this morning and I don't do any drugs! lol People over endulge in a lot of other things than just mj and many of those things are a lot more harmful. Plus you get the idea that all pot users are losers-- that is furthest from the truth. I know plenty of people that use it and they're hard workers. It helps them concentrate on things and blurs pain. A long time ago there was this guy here on the forum who retired from construction management and he said he would use it because he always had rough days at work-- he said it blurred his physical pain and helped him feel more at ease. College students use it all the time to ease their stress and some said it helped them write papers more efficiently. Thing is, these are all isolated examples and my experiences with people are obviously different from yours. But knowing this, how does your argument have any weight to it?
If you're worried about the lazy people, maybe we should make unemployment checks much harder to get. Because according to my friend, it's bad enough as it is. That's a whole separate battle that does not run very parallel with pot.
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Flackle pretty much summed up the whole argument. Good job. Anyone who does any research on the history of it will know that the reasons it was made illegal were for absolutely retarded reasons in every sense of the word. It was compared to heroin and was labelled as a black drug. And you don't want to be associated with black people!!!
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Quote from: mh874892 on May 17, 2011, 01:35:20 pm
There are definitely pros and cons to both sides of this debate. Personally I do not think it should be legalized because people will be even more apt to not working. I have seen so many people waste away their lives on this stuff. They went from spending all of their money on weed and not being able to provide to not even showing up to work because they were too high which only furthered the problem. I would be fine with it being legal if people would not over-endulge. But that is just a part of life, especially in today's society. If the intake of it was kept under control where it didn't affect the public's lifestyle I would be all for it because of the economic ups, however I do not see that happening.
Wrong. Usually there isn't a right or wrong answer in an opinion question but you have done it. The people who waster their lives away smoke weed NOW. They were going to do it whether or not it was legal. You are either a loser or not. Not many people will statistically become fans of the band Phish becuase a barely illegal drug becomes legal.
Well, if it is legalized then the overall cost will go down and these same losers will be able to buy more and more of it. These are the people that my tax money goes to and it sucks. Sorry, but your argument is weak.
if they use YOUR tax money to buy weed which would be heavily taxed, then the money is just going right back were YOU put it. Failed counter argument.
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if alcohol's legal then why not?
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should be people's choice whether they do it or not, but like alcohol, would need to be regulated (more strictly)
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Totally 100% legal.
In every single way possible.
I want it to be SO legal, that when and if I ever get stopped by the police, I don't get sent to jail for having a joint.
I think that needing a perscription for pot is ridiculous. ALL POTHEADS have "connects", and this means.. we arent messing with the riches tax money. We are purchasing under the table. What is the big deal, really?
I am not hurting any one. Point blank. No one has ever driven high and killed someone. It doesn't work that way. Majority of the people I know are pot smokers, including myself, and we aren't lazy. I don't understand what some opinions here are really based on.
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The first and most basic reason that marijuana should be legal is that there is no good reason for it not to be legal. Some people ask 'why should marijuana be legalized?" but we should ask "Why should marijuana be illegal?" From a philosophical point of view, individuals deserve the right to make choices for themselves. The government only has a right to limit those choices if the individual's actions endanger someone else. This does not apply to marijuana, since the individual who chooses to use marijuana does so according to his or her own free will. :icon_rr: :icon_rr: :icon_rr: :peace: :peace: :peace: :heart: :heart: :heart:
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No one has ever driven high and killed someone.
Simply not true, and Grossly irresponsible to say.
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I agree it should not be illegal, I don't think it is as harmless as some believe,but it is no more so than alchhol and ciggerettes. I believe that public intoxication should still be against the law, it should be left at home or certain social gatherings
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Being a big Ron Paul supporter, I do think that it should be legal. You should have the freedom to do what you wish as long as it doesn't hurt/kill anyone else or damage anybody's property. If you do, then there are consequences for that. Think of all the money we're wasting for jailing people for just having weed on their person, it's ridiculous. What's going on in Mexico and the border with the cartels is the same thing that happened in the 20's with prohibition that gave rise to guys like Al Capone and the other mobs. Didn't we learn anything from that? The whole concept that the gov't can legislate morality is just a farce. The thing with freedom is that it makes people responsible for their own actions. Just because something would be made legal doesn't mean that everyone and their dog would be stoned the next day. Regulate it, tax it and go on to bigger and better things.
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Legalize it, subject it to the same regulations as alcohol and tobacco, and tax the hell out of it. Goodbye cartels, grow houses, wasted law enforcement time, and wasted jail space.
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i think that canabus should be legalized.
may be drug dealers will be out of business.
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Yes, it should be legalized. Alcohol is much worse, imo, and it's perfectly okay for someone to go to the store and buy that. Makes absolutely no sense to me. This coming from someone who's never done the stuff and never even been drunk...and I'm 35 years old.
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Most people against it being legal use the "Well, if it were legal then everyone would be high". Last I checked, Alchohol and tobacco are legal, but I don't see everyone and their dog drunk and with a cigarette in their mouth.
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So true, Kords. Not only that, what's it to somebody if someone wants to sit in their house baked all day? People need to start worrying about themselves and stop trying to dictate how other people should live.
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I agree bvance. What people do in their own home is their business. As a nation we spend way too much money on this "war on drugs" that only serves to enrich the CIA and other shady organizations. All it has done is empower the cartels and ruin people's lives by putting them in prison for trivial reasons. Live your life and let others do their thing. If someone high on drugs causes harm to someone else in some fashion, there are consequnces for that. I just think the gov't needs to get out of people's lives and stop trying to run it. Last I checked the gov't had racked up enormous debt, is that an entity that you want running your life? Not me.
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my question to all who respond, Should canabus be legal in all 50 states or not. Let me know!!!!
[I've heard a lot about how it can be helpful in certain medical instances so, I'll try not to judge but for uses other than that I think it should be treated like alcohol taxed and controlled and licensed. >:(/quote]
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Some state have legalized "medical" marijuana. However, the feds have gone in and raided businesses legally selling in those states claiming it violated federal drugs laws. Arizona has recently passed a similar law for the second time. The Governor has filed a suit asking the federal courts, to rule on whether the actions of the Federal Gov't is legal. She has suspended the application process for stores to get the license, as she fears the Fed will also go after state employees for conspiracy, as they have threaten.
As me for I would be in favor of legalizing it with the same tax and regulations we have for tobacco and DUI alcohol laws.
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Any form of substance whose use can harm people who are nearby and not actively using should be banned. This includes tobacco. Why do people spend money on perfume and cologne and then stick one of those stinking things in thier mouth? Disgusting!
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Legal, taxed, and controlled by existing alcohol and smoking regulations. Oh, and you'd better not smoke that stuff anywhere near me.
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Legal, yes. But heavily taxed, controlled, and regulated.
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LEGALIZE IT!!!!!!!!!!!
All other areas of the world don't worry this much about plants, why should we!!! Not to mention if it go gov. regulation our country would make zillions and not to mention, there would be less crime. People don't commit serious crimes while stoked. There will probably be some snack thieves :thumbsup:
The world would be a better place if we all toked a bit!!!!!!!!!!!!
With that said, I am not a pot head, I have a wonderful successful life with a career, husband, child, house and all the fixens. I only partake in this act on an occasional basis, mostly weekends.
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Might as well legalized it since people are going to use it anyway. We could use the tax $$$$$.