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Title: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: abdyer2001 on December 16, 2011, 04:45:49 pm
there is no santa claus. the gifts just magically appear under the christmas tree by themselves..
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: cloudsoup on December 16, 2011, 06:04:52 pm
well, there isn't if you don't

believe   ;)
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: jwallbank on December 16, 2011, 06:17:16 pm
There is a Santa Clause in my household. I don't have little ones anymore but, I have Grandkids and the one's younger than 8 still believe. Kids have to have something to believe in, That is what makes the season right!!
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: SmartyTru on December 16, 2011, 06:21:42 pm
There is a Santa Clause in my household. I don't have little ones anymore but, I have Grandkids and the one's younger than 8 still believe. Kids have to have something to believe in, That is what makes the season right!!
Great Reply although on SSD and can't afford xmas I still believe it is important that children have something to believe in Merry Christmas All
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: L4v4 on December 16, 2011, 07:36:06 pm
The 'Santa Claus' is within us all. The giving and care we give one another.  :wave:
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: remediagirl on December 16, 2011, 07:37:55 pm
my hubby and me are santa...shhhhh  don't tell the 5 year old.  giggle
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: mardukblood2009 on December 16, 2011, 09:31:34 pm
Yes there is a Santa Claus. I see him at every mall, street corner, and bar everywheres I go. Sometimes he ever has his elves and his raindeer with him. Sometimes Mrs. Claus is there too making sure her husband is doing his job. ::)
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: CharmedPhoenix on December 17, 2011, 12:07:41 am
My dad tried making gift tags that read "from Santa" when I was in college.  I told him I recognized his handwriting.  They didn't want me to grow up.   :dontknow:
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: bretay on December 17, 2011, 04:00:03 am
my 7 yr old granddaughter still believes and swears he is the one that visits her school and takes pictures with them every year.My 10 yr granddaughter says that is not him because he is magic and you can't see him you just have to believe in him.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: SmartyTru on December 17, 2011, 04:12:54 am
my 7 yr old granddaughter still believes and swears he is the one that visits her school and takes pictures with them every year.My 10 yr granddaughter says that is not him because he is magic and you can't see him you just have to believe in him.
awwwwww thats so damn cute Merry Christmas :wave:
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: mgint on December 17, 2011, 05:46:36 am
if you don't believe than you have lost your wonder you have when you are a child.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: masked_brown_guy on December 17, 2011, 07:12:22 am
The 'Santa Claus' is within us all. The giving and care we give one another.  :wave:

yes, we all ate santa claus.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: pattitude1219 on December 22, 2011, 03:10:52 pm
huh? what do you mean, there's no santa claus???    :angel12:
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: conway220 on December 22, 2011, 03:37:25 pm
When i was younger, I acted like i believed so i could go "I'm asking for a laptop for Christmas,mom"  "isn't that kinda expensive for Santa"  "No Santa doesn't need anything his elves can make all the supplies appear"
*walked away smirking*
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: natashaspy on December 22, 2011, 04:19:38 pm
Of course there is a Santa Claus.  He's the giving spirit in all of us.  My son is 15, has known there wasnt an actual PERSON Santa since he was 7, but every year he still gets a stocking and every year he still gets gifts with the Santa tag on it.  If you ask him, he'll tell you there IS a Santa...she's a 5'2" (and a half) woman that goes by MOM the rest of the year :)
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: Screwedupclick4life337 on December 22, 2011, 04:35:25 pm
LOL i am santa to my godchild.I say there is for the kids to believe.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: JediJohnnie on December 22, 2011, 05:12:13 pm
Nobody can tell me there's no Santa! ;D
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: tzs on December 25, 2011, 11:11:08 am
There is no flying fat man in a red suit with reindeer and a freakin magical flying sled!!!!! :bs:
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: catherinedwhite on December 25, 2011, 12:03:35 pm
I am happy to be Santa's helper.
Especially when it is time to eat the cookies and milk.

You gotta BELIEVE!

Merry Christmas everyone!
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: tsmith1967 on December 25, 2011, 04:52:42 pm
I agree. I remember my cousin telling me that rudolphs nose lit up our whole driveway and i really believed her. Of course I was only about  nine or ten years old when stayed up all night and santa never showed. When I got married and had my own children I told them there was not santa
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: L4v4 on December 25, 2011, 05:49:13 pm
Way to point out the obvious, Santa Claus is just a symbol, within us we are all 'Santa Claus' the love and affection we show each other by giving gifts, that is what makes Christmas, we are all Santa Claus.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: marcar1008 on December 26, 2011, 10:31:56 am
There is no Santa Clause in my live .... LOL that is over ! Now my family and I know the real and ONLY celebration is Jesus ! and yes, I have a child , he knows Santa is FAKE ! We celebrate Jesus Birthday ! We get to open the presents  ;D  :angel11: Merry Christmas - the name says it all Christ = Jesus, it is NOT Merry Santmas ... LOL !
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: pattitude1219 on December 31, 2011, 08:44:27 pm
I lost a tooth the other day. I'm visiting my mom for the holidays, I wonder if I should test the tooth fairy thing. Maybe if I put it under my pillow I'll get some money? :)

Better let my mom know I'm doing that lol
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on December 31, 2011, 09:18:20 pm
Now my family and I know the real and ONLY celebration is Jesus !  We celebrate Jesus Birthday !



There's exactly zero evidence supporting the opinion that December 25th is some demi-god name "jesus".

"Christian missionaries frequently sought to stamp out pagan practices by building churches on the sites of pagan shrines or by associating Christian holidays with pagan rituals (eg. linking Christmas with the celebration of the winter solstice)."--Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Encyclopedia. Merriam Webster. 2000. p. 1211



the name says it all Christ = Jesus, it is NOT Merry Santmas ... LOL !



It's winter solstice, not the mass of christ, (despite the cultural theft by xtians).

Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: MrsJones26 on December 31, 2011, 09:42:50 pm
You right there's no such thing as a Santa Claus your love ones put those gifts there...
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: jnjmolly on December 31, 2011, 11:48:51 pm
I was  sants claus this year lol!!!! We play santa claus every Christmas!!! I pass out all the gifts one year and then it is someone else's turn in my family the following Christmas!!
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: Kiki1992 on December 31, 2011, 11:49:00 pm
That's an even better theory. You should write a new tale for kids to believe in since they no longer believe in Santa.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 01, 2012, 01:19:59 am
That's an even better theory. You should write a new tale for kids to believe in since they no longer believe in Santa.



Who are you suggesting this to?
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: sammywantsya on January 01, 2012, 06:38:56 am
see  falcon9 of all the talk on me and yet these pple here know it too.. they dont take things serious as you do...

you are disrespecting the beliefs of other religions saying there is no jesus..

for me saying fake fat man with a beard its like saying there is no jesus...

so please save your self from embarrassment... you sir are disrespecting... admit that...


Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: sammywantsya on January 01, 2012, 06:42:57 am
There is no flying fat man in a red suit with reindeer and a freakin magical flying sled!!!!! :bs:

btw falcon9 are you gonna cast her out too? its similar on what i said...
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: Cuppycake on January 01, 2012, 07:53:29 am
When i was younger, I acted like i believed so i could go "I'm asking for a laptop for Christmas,mom"  "isn't that kinda expensive for Santa"  "No Santa doesn't need anything his elves can make all the supplies appear"
*walked away smirking*

You have no spirit of giving. You are a scrooge!
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 01, 2012, 02:22:25 pm
see  falcon9 of all the talk on me and yet these pple here know it too.. they dont take things serious as you do...



I don't take the religious concepts seriously; I take the perpetuation of falsehoods more seriously.



you are disrespecting the beliefs of other religions saying there is no jesus..



No more so than you're saying there is no "Santa" however, I haven't asserted that there "is no jesus", (I have doubted the supernatural claims attributed to the mythical figure though).


for me saying fake fat man with a beard its like saying there is no jesus...



Exactly, so that is your being disrespectful of the beliefs of others.


so please save your self from embarrassment... you sir are disrespecting... admit that...


There's nothing to be embarrassed about; I'm not being hypocritical since I've been skeptical of both mythical ideas.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: scotty14 on January 01, 2012, 02:26:46 pm
 :)i would never tell a child that there isnt a santa clause.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 01, 2012, 02:27:37 pm
There is no flying fat man in a red suit with reindeer and a freakin magical flying sled!!!!! :bs:




btw falcon9 are you gonna cast her out too? its similar on what i said...




I don't "cast out" anyone, I question assertions.  In this instance, I would raise the question of supporting the claim from someone who asserted
"santa", (or "jesus"), exists.  Unless evidence can be produced to support either claim, both are dubious claims.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: sammywantsya on January 01, 2012, 03:28:56 pm
@ falcon9

dude stop with an act... its ok to make mistakes.... why you take me so seriously just because you assume i have no feelings? dude you dont even know me how would you judge me like that.. just some writing on the internet?  we all dont know every ones intentions when talking through a forum..

come on..  you doubted about this saying "no jesus"... yes skeptical so that means you dont know if its a fact you assumed... yeah you may have some knowledge about the bible and tried to explain things from your point of view but dont accept the fact some will agree. it doesnt matter the fact is you disrespecting pple...

 i wasnt trying to disrespect others beliefs so stop saying i am. im just statin the fact like everyone here.. falcon9 you got some serious issues you need to calm down and relax a bit... im not trying to pick a fight here and never was...

im focusing on my part making money here and other sources i have... this isnt the only place i can make money.... but I like fusion cash and im stayin until i move out of america... you can argue with me here through the forum  im gonna continue to make Cash Money !!!!!
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 01, 2012, 03:56:04 pm
@ falcon9 dude stop with an act...



What "act"?



its ok to make mistakes.... why you take me so seriously just because you assume i have no feelings?



Neither assumption is correct; I don't take your ideas seriously and your feelings have no bearing on my replies.



dude you dont even know me how would you judge me like that.. just some writing on the internet?  we all dont know every ones intentions when talking through a forum..



I've already indicated that I don't know you when you assumed I 'hated you'.  That was a judgemental error on your part, which makes your assumptions about judging you ironic.



come on..  you doubted about this saying "no jesus"... yes skeptical so that means you dont know if its a fact you assumed...



In attempting to decipher your inarticulate jumble above, nothing was "assumed" regarding the lack of evidence for supernatural claims related to "jesus".  I've consistently remained skeptical of empty declarations in lieu of evidence or, based upon empty 'faith'.



yeah you may have some knowledge about the bible and tried to explain things from your point of view but dont accept the fact some will agree.



What, are you contending that I don't accept some agreeing with me?  Your sentence is unclear.



it doesnt matter the fact is you disrespecting pple...



I'm not disrespecting "pple", I am questioning the basis of their specious beliefs.  The difference is that a person is not a belief.




i wasnt trying to disrespect others beliefs so stop saying i am. im just statin the fact like everyone here..



You're a hypocrit; message IDs referencing your hypocritical posts can be reposted if wished.  If "statin" that 'there is no santa' is considered to be a "fact", then stating that there is no evidence to support supernatural claims regarding "jesus" must also be considered as factual.



falcon9 you got some serious issues you need to calm down and relax a bit... im not trying to pick a fight here and never was...



Your analysis is unsupported and faulty.  When I post replies, I am calm and relaxed.  This is a debate & discussion forum, rather than characterized as 'picking a fight'.  Your attempts at ad hominem counter-attacks are disregarded as ineffective.



im focusing on my part making money here and other sources i have... this isnt the only place i can make money.... but I like fusion cash and im stayin until i move out of america... you can argue with me here through the forum  im gonna continue to make Cash Money !!!!!



If so, why are you bothering taking ineffective swipes - ego issues?
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: sammywantsya on January 01, 2012, 04:29:02 pm
as i said i like it here...  and im continuing to support FC with related posts and make money....

 u on the other hand just like to argue... im posting things here without any drama just having fun... you just like to pick on others...

Falcon9 sometimes you *bleep* pple off if you wanna act smart go to some smart forum... in here at FC we just want to have fun and help others making money....

you see why no one is listening to you and me now its because they want to get involved with others who just enjoys a pleasant convo... you picked a fight with me i was not doing any harm just statin the fact on what i said... even tho i was a rasied christian still i have faults like any other human being...   
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 01, 2012, 04:45:15 pm
u on the other hand just like to argue...



I do enjoy a good debate however, you haven't provided one thusfar.



im posting things here without any drama just having fun...



False.  You have posted contentious statements which were contended in a forum where that happens, (debate & discuss), which could be characterized as 'dramatic', (and hypocritical).  Whether or not you're having "fun" is immaterial to the context discussed.



you just like to pick on others...



More accurately, I prefer to dispute the baseless claims and 'dramatic' acting like a 'victim', (when you are the one who chose to post what you have in this forum).  Instead of whining about it like a martyr, you have other options.


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Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 01, 2012, 04:55:47 pm
Falcon9 sometimes you *bleep* pple off if you wanna act smart go to some smart forum...



My signature reads, "Logic ticks people off - isn't that ironic?"  As previously stated, I'm not 'acting'.



in here at FC we just want to have fun and help others making money....



Now you're presuming to speaak for the intent of others?  There are subforums for off-topic and topical discussion about offers and such.  There is also a subforum called D+D, (debate + discuss), which has this prelude "A place to have political, religious, and other divisive discussions. Enter at your own risk!"



you see why no one is listening to you and me now its because they want to get involved with others who just enjoys a pleasant convo...



I've read and replied to a few other people posting in this thread so, your wishful-thinking is inaccurate.



you picked a fight with me



No, I responded to a few contentious posts you made in a debate & discussion forum.



i was not doing any harm just statin the fact on what i said...



Your continued insistance upon being passive-aggressive is of limited interest to me.  Your hypocrisy was commented upon by two separate people and your opinions do not constitute 'facts'.



even tho i was a rasied christian still i have faults like any other human being... 



Alternatively, perhaps you have those faults because you were raised xtian?
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: sammywantsya on January 01, 2012, 04:56:45 pm
then why pick a fight when im useless here...  

you can call me a martyr hypocrite i dont care.. it really dont matter to me anymore because you think your so right on every posts... get real...

i would rather have fun posting a good conversation... instead of arguing...

i have rights to post just like you pal... so dont even try to say i dont belong there... 

Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 01, 2012, 05:06:33 pm
then why pick a fight when im useless here...



You posted, I replied.  That's what happens in a public forum.
Message ID: 467873:
"this is simple reality folks.. if pple dont celebrate jesus birthday they celebrate a fake fat man with a beard saying ho ho ho...
its sad really... but id guess spirit lives on here.. but still why celebrate a fake fat man with a beard???"


you can call me a martyr hypocrite i dont care.. it really dont matter to me anymore because you think your so right on every posts... get real...



Your own posted words show your hypocrisy and continued attempts to play the martyred party.  If yoour own words betray you and it doesn't matter, why continue arguing about it?
 


i would rather have fun posting a good conversation... instead of arguing...



If so, you have poor self-control.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: sammywantsya on January 01, 2012, 05:13:47 pm
@ falcon9

you god damn funny... you think your so right LMFAO ....

ill stop it here hopefully you end it by not replying to me...

good luck to pick on someone else...



Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: Getinonthis on January 01, 2012, 05:18:33 pm
It's funny People won't tell their kids about Jesus but consciously teach them that it's ok to have
someone (Santa Claus) BREAK into your house to leave presents (Smh) lol.

They're teaching kids to practice "breaking and entering," and to use Santa Clause as an alibi.
Truth is they'll still get arrested. So why is society portraying this level of ignorance?
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 01, 2012, 05:34:58 pm
@ falcon9 you god damn funny... you think your so right LMFAO ....



Is part of your xtian unbringing to 'blaspheme' your own deity? 



ill stop it here hopefully you end it by not replying to me...good luck to pick on someone else...



I'll stop replying to your passive-aggressive whining once you cease the passive-aggressive whining.  Any chance of that happening soon?
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 01, 2012, 05:36:47 pm
It's funny People won't tell their kids about Jesus but consciously teach them that it's ok to have
someone (Santa Claus) BREAK into your house to leave presents (Smh) lol.

They're teaching kids to practice "breaking and entering," and to use Santa Clause as an alibi.
Truth is they'll still get arrested. So why is society portraying this level of ignorance?



Probably along the same lines as perpeptuating myths about "jesus"; they don't want to disillusion the tykes and prefer to instill delusions.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: acurtsinger2 on January 01, 2012, 05:40:32 pm
there is a santa....he lives in our hearts.  only scrooges dont beleive
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 01, 2012, 05:48:48 pm
i have rights to post just like you pal... so dont even try to say i dont belong there... 



Since I never stated any such thing, your penchant for lying rears it's ugly head once again.  Is this how you normally 'argue'; by making stuff up that never happened and not bothering to back up your false claims?
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: leung1245 on January 01, 2012, 07:35:22 pm
Sorry... As a devoted Christian, I honestly and proudly declare SANTA CLAUSE IS NOT REAL!!
Anybody that states otherwise is trying to sell something... :-P
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 01, 2012, 09:09:00 pm
Sorry... As a devoted Christian, I honestly and proudly declare SANTA CLAUSE IS NOT REAL!!
Anybody that states otherwise is trying to sell something... :-P



This may have arisen from a spelling distinction however, there are legal contracts containing a "santa clause".  As far as "santa claus", this is a derivation of "Sinterklaus", a dutch mythical figure.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: hammy12 on January 01, 2012, 09:29:23 pm
There will always be a Santa Claus if we believe.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 01, 2012, 09:34:36 pm
There will always be a Santa Claus if we believe.




Will there also always be an invisible pink unicorn, if only we believe?
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: vicogden on January 02, 2012, 05:02:09 am
Actually, I was talking to the Easter Bunny a couple of days ago, and he confirmed exactly what you posted: Santa is some sort of a hoax started by foolish Elves just so they could claim unemployment for 11 months out of the year.  I gotta run-- Toto and I are due in Kansas any minute now.  I just have to click my heels together and...
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: bigfoot951 on January 02, 2012, 07:45:47 am
What?  Is this a joke?  Are you serious?  There is no santa claus?  Did something happen to him?  I know he use to be there.  I hope you are mistaking, but if you are somehow right then this is a sad day in my life. ;D
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 02, 2012, 01:20:06 pm
What?  Is this a joke?  Are you serious?  There is no santa claus?  Did something happen to him?  I know he use to be there.  I hope you are mistaking, but if you are somehow right then this is a sad day in my life. ;D




Turns out that chimney-diving is carcinogenic and he's been in chemotherapy for some time now.  Mrs. Claus is reported as to having regrets about their failing to produce offspring to carry on the mythic legacy.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: vmcutshall on January 02, 2012, 03:06:33 pm
I think we can all be Santa Claus and keep the spirit of giving through out the year.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: monnee on January 02, 2012, 03:12:15 pm
there is no santa claus. the gifts just magically appear under the christmas tree by themselves..

Of course there is a Santa Claus, your receiving you Christmas gifts under the tree.  Santa put your gifts there.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: Getinonthis on January 02, 2012, 07:59:05 pm
It's funny People won't tell their kids about Jesus but consciously teach them that it's ok to have
someone (Santa Claus) BREAK into your house to leave presents (Smh) lol.

They're teaching kids to practice "breaking and entering," and to use Santa Clause as an alibi.
Truth is they'll still get arrested. So why is society portraying this level of ignorance?



Probably along the same lines as perpeptuating myths about "jesus"; they don't want to disillusion the tykes and prefer to instill delusions.

So being in disbelief or being an infidel justifies teaching kids to practice "breaking and entering,"
and to use Santa Clause as an alibi? Consciously knowing that prison will be the outcome or death if 
attempted in the wrong neighborhood is a just solution.
The former conversation must have dumb your deigning remarks, disappointing (smh).
I was expecting a more intellectual reason?
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: quietpal on January 02, 2012, 09:46:21 pm
Growing up, I didn't believe in Santa Claus because that was not portrayed in our household. I knew that my gifts came from mom and dad, and I was ok with it. 
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: 35klye on January 02, 2012, 09:47:31 pm
my friend told me his little brother still believed in santa, so when i was at his house i started screaming SANTA ISN'T REAL
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 02, 2012, 10:03:50 pm
So being in disbelief or being an infidel justifies teaching kids to practice "breaking and entering,"
and to use Santa Clause as an alibi?



No, I wouldn't perpetuate that myth, which means not promoting breaking and entering.



The former conversation must have dumb your deigning remarks, disappointing (smh).
I was expecting a more intellectual reason?




Your remark is inarticulate.  Presumably, "must have dumb your deigning remarks" was intended as some sort of derrogatory comment however, it was written unintelligibly.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: Cuppycake on January 02, 2012, 10:48:18 pm
see  falcon9 of all the talk on me and yet these pple here know it too.. they dont take things serious as you do...



I don't take the religious concepts seriously; I take the perpetuation of falsehoods more seriously.



you are disrespecting the beliefs of other religions saying there is no jesus..



No more so than you're saying there is no "Santa" however, I haven't asserted that there "is no jesus", (I have doubted the supernatural claims attributed to the mythical figure though).


for me saying fake fat man with a beard its like saying there is no jesus...



Exactly, so that is your being disrespectful of the beliefs of others.


so please save your self from embarrassment... you sir are disrespecting... admit that...


There's nothing to be embarrassed about; I'm not being hypocritical since I've been skeptical of both mythical ideas.
I am much more likely to believe that there was at one time a kindly old man that brought gifts to children and the tale has been exaggerated then to believe in bullshit religious claims. It is more likely that kids having heard of the man giving gifts also wanted gifts and their parents left gifts for them saying they were from him and so on and so on.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: Getinonthis on January 02, 2012, 10:50:18 pm
Your remark is inarticulate.  Presumably, "must have dumb your deigning remarks" was intended as some sort of derrogatory comment however, it was written unintelligibly.

My point exactly, that response seemed beneath you to a simple why question?
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 02, 2012, 10:54:18 pm
I am much more likely to believe that there was at one time a kindly old man that brought gifts to children and the tale has been exaggerated then to believe in bullshit religious claims. It is more likely that kids having heard of the man giving gifts also wanted gifts and their parents left gifts for them saying they were from him and so on and so on.



It's unclear whether or not the Dutch figure of Sinterklaus, (who purportedly left coins in shoes), ws pre-dated by another variation of the myth.  Either way, the giving and receiving of gifts is a practice which does pre-date current religions.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 02, 2012, 10:56:11 pm
Your remark is inarticulate.  Presumably, "must have dumb your deigning remarks" was intended as some sort of derrogatory comment however, it was written unintelligibly.




My point exactly, that response seemed beneath you to a simple why question?




Where is your "why" question?  Is it somehow tacitly implied?
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: Getinonthis on January 02, 2012, 11:33:45 pm
Where is your "why" question?  Is it somehow tacitly implied?
By no means would it be, here's the question as I'm sure we agree with the post there is no Santa Claus.
Being in disbelief or being an infidel towards other beliefs surrounding Christmas is there no better choice of teaching
than to have kids follow one who's "breaking and entering," as portrayed by Santa Claus?
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 02, 2012, 11:51:41 pm
Where is your "why" question?  Is it somehow tacitly implied?




By no means would it be, here's the question as I'm sure we agree with the post there is no Santa Claus.
Being in disbelief or being an infidel towards other beliefs surrounding Christmas is there no better choice of teaching
than to have kids follow one who's "breaking and entering," as portrayed by Santa Claus?




Although that's not a "why" question, I'll reiterate that I'm against perpetuating either myth, ("santa" or "jesus"), as both promote delusions.  As previously mentioned, that would mean not encouraging breaking & entering, (nor unfounded religious beliefs).
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: Getinonthis on January 03, 2012, 01:51:49 pm
By no means would it be, here's the question as I'm sure we agree with the post there is no Santa Claus.
Being in disbelief or being an infidel towards other beliefs surrounding Christmas is there no better choice of teaching
than to have kids follow one who's "breaking and entering," as portrayed by Santa Claus?

Although that's not a "why" question, I'll reiterate that I'm against perpetuating either myth, ("santa" or "Jesus"), as both promote delusions.  As previously mentioned, that would mean not encouraging breaking & entering, (nor unfounded religious beliefs).
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It's evident that you'd be targeting Jesus and that's why I left the place of unbelief but the why was towards your post.

"Probably along the same lines as perpetuating myths about "Jesus"; they don't want to disillusion the tykes and prefer to instill delusions."
Why settle Santa's Criminal intent?

Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 03, 2012, 02:09:53 pm
Why settle Santa's Criminal intent?





As stated more than once, I don't concur with either myth's "criminal intent".
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: Getinonthis on January 05, 2012, 03:21:41 pm
Why settle Santa's Criminal intent?


As stated more than once, I don't concur with either myth's "criminal intent".

No said you believed in anything, but to not believe is also mythical.
eg. The atheist God" teaches that he doesn't exist," so in obedience the atheist "preaches that there's no God."

One has to believe in order to accept or deny. Like you said they chose the criminal intent what's your choice?
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 05, 2012, 05:24:18 pm
No said you believed in anything, but to not believe is also mythical.



Your assertion makes no sense.  Disbelief is not "mythical", it consists of not believing, (usually disbelief in some unsupported assertion).



eg. The atheist God" teaches that he doesn't exist," so in obedience the atheist "preaches that there's no God."



You are mistaken; there is no "atheist god" since atheists do not believe in any 'gods' by definition.



One has to believe in order to accept or deny.



That is a false dichotomy; belief isn't required in order to not believe.  Your assertion is irrational.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: duroz on January 05, 2012, 10:19:28 pm
Will there also always be an invisible pink unicorn, if only we believe?


HA!!! I was wondering where that elusive creature went......haven't heard a word about it for quite a while now, over at my other favorite "There is no...." topic
 ;D
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: jenniferhoder on January 06, 2012, 12:07:29 am
As I tell my kids, if you believe in Santa, you ill get presents from him, if you DON'T then NO PRESENTS from him!!
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 06, 2012, 12:18:03 am
As I tell my kids, if you believe in Santa, you ill get presents from him, if you DON'T then NO PRESENTS from him!!




My kids, (now grown), had thanked me for not lying to them.  Honor is a gift which cannot be purchased.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: Getinonthis on January 06, 2012, 11:43:43 am
No one said you believed in anything, but to not believe is also mythical.
Quote
Your assertion makes no sense.  Disbelief is not "mythical", it consists of not believing, (usually disbelief in some unsupported assertion).

Our opinions differ. Disbelief is in fact mythical (no-one believed that the world was round until it was proven) Like-wise most people are
considered guilty until proven innocent; many like yourself support theoretic (assumed, mythical) evidences.

eg. The atheist God" teaches that he doesn't exist," so in obedience the atheist "preaches that there's no God."
Quote
You are mistaken; there is no "atheist god" since atheists do not believe in any 'gods' by definition.

An Atheist is simply one who's ignorant or shows disregard to God.
To the person who believes in God to do so is to SERVE Satan - the atheist God.
Simply put there's only two choices right and wrong, believe or disbelief. (Vice versa)


One has to believe in order to accept or deny.
Quote
That is a false dichotomy; belief isn't required in order to not believe.  Your assertion is irrational.
Belief is twofold, but its rational. For you to deny or accept something you must hold some sort of belief.
Unless your decisions are made simply by opposition...
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: duroz on January 06, 2012, 01:28:31 pm

An Atheist is simply one who's ignorant or shows disregard to God.
To the person who believes in God to do so is to SERVE Satan - the atheist God.
Simply put there's only two choices right and wrong, believe or disbelief. (Vice versa)

Belief is twofold, but its rational.

Unless your decisions are made simply by opposition...

what...WHAT???   Nonsensical yik-yak...

FYI: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.
Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 06, 2012, 01:36:11 pm
Our opinions differ.



Yes, they do.  Mine have a basis in reason while the basis of your lies somewhere else.




Disbelief is in fact mythical (no-one believed that the world was round until it was proven).



Your assertions do not apply reasoning; some people 'believed' that the earth was flat.  This proved to be a false belief once evidence was obtained to show that it is an oblate spheroid, (not "round").  Neither "disbelief" nor "belief" are 'mythical' in and of themselves; one can only believe or disbelief _something_ which is mythical.



Like-wise most people are considered guilty until proven innocent; many like yourself support theoretic (assumed, mythical) evidences.



Guilt or innocence isn't 'mythical' either.  Theories are not 'mythical' since this does not encompass the meaning of "mythic".  Look it up for yourself as you do not appear to understand the meaning of that word.



eg. The atheist God" teaches that he doesn't exist," so in obedience the atheist "preaches that there's no God."

Quote
You are mistaken; there is no "atheist god" since atheists do not believe in any 'gods' by definition.



An Atheist is simply one who's ignorant or shows disregard to God.



That is an incorrect definition of "atheist".  Many atheists oppose the ignorance of religious believers who choose to believe despite the complete lack of evidence to support their baseless beliefs.  What is being disregarded by atheism in general is a foundationless claim that there is a "god".



To the person who believes in God to do so is to SERVE Satan - the atheist God.



What religious believers choose to believe is of no significant consequence to those who reject such irrationality since atheists generally do not believe in the xtian "satan" either.  As a consequence of rejecting both beliefs, ("god" and "satan"), neither is "served" by atheists.



Simply put there's only two choices right and wrong, believe or disbelief. (Vice versa)



Over-simplification is generally the product of a simple mind.  In this instance, basing what is "right and wrong" and specious religious beliefs isn't rational.  This is due to the process of 'faith' being bereft of reason.  Most atheists 'disbelieve' the baseless claims of religionists because no supporting evidence is provided for such claims.  Conversely, there is no logical requirement to provide evidence for a 'disbelief' because of the inherent logical fallacy of 'proving a negative assertion'.



One has to believe in order to accept or deny.

Quote
That is a false dichotomy; belief isn't required in order to not believe.  Your assertion is irrational.


Belief is twofold, but its rational. For you to deny or accept something you must hold some sort of belief.
Unless your decisions are made simply by opposition...


Belief, (without supporting evidence), is not rational.  For someone to accept the validity of "something", one requires either evidence _or_ "belief".  If acceptence is based upon supporting evidence, no belief is required, (the evidence being sufficient to support the premise).  If acceptance is based upon belief/faith alone, (e.g., a lack of supporting evidence), then one has chosen to make an irrational decision.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 06, 2012, 04:34:28 pm
To the person who believes in God to do so is to SERVE Satan - the atheist God.



Just wanted to give you an opportunity to clarify something there; you assert that "satan", (a xtian conception of an "archangel"), is "the atheist god".  This is despite theological claims that "archangels" aren't defined as "gods" and, that atheists don't "serve" or believe in "gods".  It is possible that you are unable to comprehend that a lack of belief isn't a 'belief' itself.  Regardless, it is fortunate that others can discern the difference.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: smithjcsdfw on January 06, 2012, 09:38:07 pm
hmmm not sure if this is a test of faith or what.  But I so gotta believe in the spirit of the jolly elf St. Nick or else the next thing you will be telling me is that there is no Easter Bunny and I have seen the bunny.  Course he looked a lot like a Jack Rabbit but the goodies were still just as good.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: Getinonthis on January 07, 2012, 02:25:34 pm

An Atheist is simply one who's ignorant or shows disregard to God.
To the person who believes in God to do so is to SERVE Satan - the atheist God.
Simply put there's only two choices right and wrong, believe or disbelief. (Vice versa)

Belief is twofold, but its rational.

Unless your decisions are made simply by opposition...

what...WHAT???   Nonsensical yik-yak...

FYI: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.
Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.

Lol,
No need for Wiki we all have access to it.
Letís use common sense - both parties hold firm to their belief
Atheist: I don't believe in God
Believer: I believe in God
In the minds of both they're way is right, whichever way you desire to put it.
Itís a choice in saying my belief lies elsewhere.

It's not an absence of belief unless you're just a contrarian.
This also describes the operations of Satan (Fallen Angel) who seek take Godís (recognition, subservient) glory by contrariwise attempts/means. As stated above with the atheist and the Believer.

Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: ghunter on January 07, 2012, 03:27:23 pm
Sure there is, the Mother is the Santa and the father is the Claus, put them together and you have Santa Claus. :D
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: sammywantsya on January 07, 2012, 03:35:19 pm
if you guys wanna argue especially with those 2 losers who thinks that there crap is right thats fine... i dont care...... we know santa isnt real..

do you wanna argue? or make money? falcon and falcon Jr yeah im making this statement about you ^^... you insulted alot of pple here.. and its not fun anymore..

while i make money while i sleep you guys keep on arguing which is sad...
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: Lindaroof on January 07, 2012, 04:34:48 pm
WHAT??????? No Santa???? :'( :'( :'( I can't go on!
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: duroz on January 07, 2012, 04:39:44 pm
if you guys wanna argue especially with those 2 losers who thinks that there crap is right thats fine... i dont care......we know santa isnt real..
WHO guys are you giving the "OKAY" to for arguing with the two losers? (Not sure if I AM cleared for this activity or not?)

falcon and falcon Jr yeah im making this statement about you ^^...
So....who exactly do you refer to as just "falcon"
And I've never seen anyone here called falcon JR.... :dontknow: who the heck is that??

you insulted alot of pple here.. and its not fun anymore..
Right then, because calling people (or falcons/junior falcons, for that matter) LOSERS wouldn't be intended as an insult at all, would it? (SORRY...PPLE)

while i make money while i sleep you guys keep on arguing
WOW! REALLY- While you SLEEP?? You are pretty good at this whole FC thing, huh?


which is sad...
Why is it sad?? For who....you? Will It disturb your sleep, maybe? Or affect all the money you make while asleep?
Gosh I hope not..that would be a shame if your sleep or your income suffered because others continued to argue.....and with LOSERS on top of it. 
Or sad for the people who insist on arguing because......you KNOW that they NEED to be making money, and not pissing time away arguing, or something like that? Well that is REALLY very nice of you to be concerned about your fellow FC-ers income.

Okay then sammy.....sweet dreams! Hope that your hours asleep = mountains of cash!  :)   
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: duroz on January 07, 2012, 04:44:21 pm
WHAT??????? No Santa???? :'( :'( :'( I can't go on!

Come on, Lindaroof!! Hang on, you will make it! I know you can do it.....

And remember there's still Chuck Norris, and Pinky, the invisible unicorn! There IS hope!
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: CarolGalicia on January 07, 2012, 05:23:53 pm
 :heart:I truly don't think sooo....If there is a Santa, then why do ones parents gooo out, pay for gifts ,then put a man( who you have never truly seen)"santa" on the gift....santa is taking credit for something someone else has done....that includes the easter bunny, tooth fairy,....then they lie to their children and say santa was here ....down a chimney, he couldn,t possibly fit...go figure.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 07, 2012, 05:48:09 pm
Letís use common sense



Yeah, and logic - both would be a change of pace for you.



- both parties hold firm to their belief
Atheist: I don't believe in God
Believer: I believe in God



The significant difference which continues to escape you is that disbelief is a lack of belief, it is not a "belief" itself.


In the minds of both they're way is right, whichever way you desire to put it.
Itís a choice in saying my belief lies elsewhere.



Your belief lies here, there, elsewhere and everywhere; it's built upon lies, (plagiarizing previous pagan beliefs, etc.).



It's not an absence of belief unless you're just a contrarian.



It's an absence of belief according to the definition of atheism, not 'contrarianism'.



This also describes the operations of Satan (Fallen Angel) who seek take Godís (recognition, subservient) glory by contrariwise attempts/means. As stated above with the atheist and the Believer.




However, you stated that "satan is the atheist god", which is false on two counts.  The first being that atheists believe in no "gods", by definition.  The second fallacy being that baseless beliefs, ("operations of satan" et al), derived from other baseless beliefs are merely second-generation nonsense.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 07, 2012, 05:53:30 pm
if you guys wanna argue especially with those 2 losers who thinks that there crap is right thats fine... i dont care...... we know santa isnt real..



Obviously, you do "care" enough to interject your passive-aggressive insults into the exchange.



do you wanna argue? or make money? falcon and falcon Jr yeah im making this statement about you ^^... you insulted alot of pple here.. and its not fun anymore..



You've just insulted two members of FC who are participating in a discussion forum just like you are.  Given your previous comments, no doubt you may believe that this isn't a two-way street which applies to you as well.  No one is preventing anyone else on FC from making what money they can here.

 
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: duroz on January 07, 2012, 06:22:59 pm

An Atheist is simply one who's ignorant or shows disregard to God.
the atheist God.

FYI: From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.
Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist.
Lol,
No need for Wiki we all have access to it.

Yes but some of us must not ever use it, or a dictionary, or anything that gives us actual definitions of words (that's okay then just make up your own and post that)


Letís use common sense
Alright.......but you go first, K?

An Atheist is simply one who's ignorant or shows disregard to God. 

but SOMETIMES instead
   
Atheist: I don't believe in God 
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: JoFricke on January 07, 2012, 08:05:06 pm
There will always be a Santa Claus. There is always some one out there willing to take on that roll when needed the most
 :angel11:
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: jjhoney25 on January 07, 2012, 09:00:04 pm
hell naw ... wish ha was realllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 07, 2012, 10:15:30 pm
Letís use common sense




Alright.......but you go first, K?



It may be that common sense is uncommon for them.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: springsgardner on January 07, 2012, 10:29:13 pm
My 9 yo son asked parents lie to their kids about Santa Claus. I told him it helps make Christmas magical and fun.

What I was thinking: on the flip side, when things are tough, Santa still has to deliver because he isn't effected by the economy. This puts people with little cash flow in a tough spot.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 07, 2012, 11:17:40 pm
What I was thinking: on the flip side, when things are tough, Santa still has to deliver because he isn't effected by the economy. This puts people with little cash flow in a tough spot.




On the other hand, were "santa" to be affected by a recessionary economy, that might lend circumstantial evidence to his existence.  Conversely, a "santa" which remains unaffected by economic downturns is providing circumstantial evidence of being fabricated.  Rumors that the phrase "santa returns" actually stands for "Sales Alleviating Near Terrible Annual" returns are scandalous.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: sammywantsya on January 08, 2012, 04:06:03 pm
"while i make money while i sleep you guys keep on arguing
WOW! REALLY- While you SLEEP?? You are pretty good at this whole FC thing, huh?"


"Why is it sad?? For who....you? Will It disturb your sleep, maybe? Or affect all the money you make while asleep?
Gosh I hope not..that would be a shame if your sleep or your income suffered because others continued to argue.....and with LOSERS on top of it.  "



i really dont wanna brag but here is some proof that i make in 1 day :) hopefully you will see the potential of making money online...

(http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n512/sammywantsya/moneymoneymoney.jpg)

and here is my paypal proof earnings that i usually make everyday... if you think im plain around im not but i do actually sleep while i make money do you?

(http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n512/sammywantsya/paymentproof7.png)

hopefully you guys open your eyes... :)


i just want to prove something to these so called bullies of FC :p it makes my day even when you guys argue instead of making MONEY!!!!!
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 08, 2012, 04:28:21 pm
that would be a shame if your sleep or your income suffered because others continued to argue.....and with LOSERS on top of it.



Falsely characterizing others with empty insults is the sign of a deficient mind.

Anyone can take a picture of money and claim they made it online.  Your claim is dubious due to insufficient supporting evidence.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: sammywantsya on January 08, 2012, 05:05:07 pm
w.e LMFAO !!!! keep being skeptical... ill still laugh at you everyday.... you make no money but i do... which is damn sad for some folks who had no determination...

its sad really... i told you i dont wanna brag but you have to push it that far... good luck on your useless comments... keep arguing *bleep* lol.. it really makes my day :)
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: sammywantsya on January 08, 2012, 05:18:43 pm
that would be a shame if your sleep or your income suffered because others continued to argue.....and with LOSERS on top of it.



Falsely characterizing others with empty insults is the sign of a deficient mind.

Anyone can take a picture of money and claim they made it online.  Your claim is dubious due to insufficient supporting evidence.

do i need to show more seriously? LMFAO

please your not even on my level on making money this is recent dec 30 2011 got it that morning...

(http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n512/sammywantsya/iphoneproof.jpg)
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 08, 2012, 05:26:09 pm
w.e LMFAO !!!! keep being skeptical...


I don't need your permission to do so.



ill still laugh at you everyday.... you make no money but i do... which is damn sad for some folks who had no determination...



The things that make a deficient mind laugh are of no interest to me.  Since I'm currently not using my FC banner, you have no idea what I make on FC, and instead make a random guess and an even more random attempt to insult, (again).  Your passive-aggressive pattern is shallow and obvious.




its sad really... i told you i dont wanna brag but you have to push it that far... good luck on your useless comments... keep arguing *bleep* lol.. it really makes my day :)



As it happens, I concur with your assessment of your 'arguements'; such as they are.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 08, 2012, 05:30:01 pm
do i need to show more seriously? LMFAO



As a general rule, I have no interest in 'pyramid schemes'.  Your posting of these dubious examples of other sites on FC has been noted.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: sammywantsya on January 08, 2012, 05:48:41 pm
falcon9 its shows how ignorant you can get :) which makes me laugh at you.... call it a scheme im gettin paid its just shows that your broke.. i told you once again i dont wanna brag but you keep pushing it...

your not even at my level on making money ... i dont need pple here to recruit i do offline work.... thats why i dont show the programs names and erasing them out instead of one that everyone is familiar with... so keep being skeptic your just broke...
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 08, 2012, 06:01:49 pm
falcon9 its shows how ignorant you can get



There's no need when your own posts show your sub-par literacy. 

As far as making money, you remain ignorant of many things; including my income.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: sammywantsya on January 08, 2012, 06:07:31 pm
falcon9 its shows how ignorant you can get



There's no need when your own posts show your sub-par literacy. 

As far as making money, you remain ignorant of many things; including my income.

the repeat of the BROKE ^^

its just sad ....  :wave:  :crybaby2:
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 08, 2012, 06:19:15 pm
the repeat of the BROKE ^^  




The repetitions of the illiterate pale in comparison to the irony.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 08, 2012, 06:29:56 pm

... some evasive dissembling, instead of substantive rebuttals ...


its just sad ....  :wave:  :crybaby2:



True however, anything more ambitious would be over-reaching for you.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: mrstina08 on January 08, 2012, 07:06:56 pm
Growing up. Yes We belive in Santa Clause but today. Santa is whoever you want him to be. Your Dad,Mommy, Aunt, uncel and so on.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: Getinonthis on January 08, 2012, 07:07:07 pm
- both parties hold firm to their belief
Atheist: I don't believe in God
Believer: I believe in God

The significant difference which continues to escape you is that disbelief is a lack of belief, it is not a "belief" itself.

It's not an absence of belief unless you're just a contrarian.

It's an absence of belief according to the definition of atheism, not 'contrarianism'.

This also describes the operations of Satan (Fallen Angel) who seek take Godís (recognition, subservient) glory by contrariwise attempts/means. As stated above with the atheist and the Believer.

However, you stated that "satan is the atheist god", which is false on two counts.  The first being that atheists believe in no "gods", by definition.  The second fallacy being that baseless beliefs, ("operations of satan" et al), derived from other baseless beliefs are merely second-generation nonsense.

Whatís up with your sidekick or as the earlier post stated Jr.

Falc, I shared an argument not my belief so make no assumption.
I expressed a simply reasoning that is viewed differently in your eyes and probably Jr's also.

In certain religions such as Christian and Islam the atheist is seen as the opposition, to sum it up;
One that serves Satan simply because there's no middle there's either one or the other.

Disbelief - is to reject a belief, why?
Because the individualís belief lies elsewhere
(Something has to influence disbelief thereís no absence of belief -that's soothsaying, fallacious)

Like I shared in both Christian and Islam there's no middle it's either A or B; God or Satan.
You likewise the atheist fall in one or the other, you're either hot or cold. It's pitiful to think there's a place for lukewarm.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 08, 2012, 07:36:15 pm
Whatís up with your sidekick or as the earlier post stated Jr.



You don't do well responding to the context of a posted reply, do you?  As to your lame attempts at derrogatory remarks; there is no "sidekick" or "Jr." here - there are two separate members of FC who have been successfully challenging your fundie nonsense.



Falc, I shared an argument not my belief so make no assumption.



Your "argument" consisted of making irrational assertions which had no substantiation and stemmed from your religious beliefs.  No assumptions were made as this is based upon your own posted words, (making assumptions unneccessry).



I expressed a simply reasoning that is viewed differently in your eyes and probably Jr's also.



Your remarks were not consistant with "reasoning"; simple or otherwise.  They were merely baseless religious opinions and were challenged as such.  Apparently, you prefer to continue using illogic and nonreasoning instead of refutations using the alternatives.  So be it.



In certain religions such as Christian and Islam the atheist is seen as the opposition, to sum it up;
One that serves Satan simply because there's no middle there's either one or the other.



Since I'm neither xtian nor islamic, the skewed views of these 'religions' do not apply to actual facts.  The cognizant fact in this context is that atheists neither serve nor worship "satan" or any "gods", 'archangels' or stuffed animals.



Disbelief - is to reject a belief, why?



Thos question has already been addressed however, for those who are paying attention: a belief can be rejected, (disbelieved), on the basis of no evidence to support the asserted belief.


Because the individualís belief lies elsewhere



Not necessarily.  It as possible to hold no unfounded 'beliefs' as it is to hold alternative unfounded beliefs.  Your characterization of fallicious non-reasoning as "reasoning" is a false one.


(Something has to influence disbelief thereís no absence of belief -that's soothsaying, fallacious)



The absence of belief results from the absence of evidence to support that belief.  This is termed as "disbelief", not "soothsaying", (which has a completely different meaning).

 

Like I shared in both Christian and Islam there's no middle it's either A or B; God or Satan.



The skewed belief systems do not apply to me since I'm neither xtian nor islamic, (as previously stated).  Therefore, it is not a matter of "A or B"; option 'C' = not believing either mythology.



You likewise the atheist fall in one or the other



That is faulty 'reasoning'; atheism is not a belief and is not a subset of other beliefs - it is a rejection of those belief systems on the basis of a lack of supportive evidence for the claims made under those beliefs.



you're either hot or cold. It's pitiful to think there's a place for lukewarm.



Your critical thinking skills appear to be absent; there is of course, a range of temperatures between "hot" & "cold" which includes "lukewarm".  The analogy therefore fails and with it, your arguement.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: Kohler on January 08, 2012, 10:23:54 pm
I like how you two report each other, yet still continue posting non-sense in a thread that has nothing to do with your argument. Cut it out or get the ban hammer. Also, if you want to squabble, go make a thread in the Debate and Discuss and you two can continue on without cluttering the off topic board.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 08, 2012, 10:41:34 pm
I like how you two report each other, yet still continue posting non-sense in a thread that has nothing to do with your argument. Cut it out or get the ban hammer. Also, if you want to squabble, go make a thread in the Debate and Discuss and you two can continue on without cluttering the off topic board.




Will do and sorry about the clutter.
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: sammywantsya on January 09, 2012, 10:34:26 am
I like how you two report each other, yet still continue posting non-sense in a thread that has nothing to do with your argument. Cut it out or get the ban hammer. Also, if you want to squabble, go make a thread in the Debate and Discuss and you two can continue on without cluttering the off topic board.

yes staff is here to put there foot down... thank you kohler ^^
Title: Re: THERE IS NO SANTA CLAUS
Post by: falcon9 on January 09, 2012, 12:10:10 pm
yes staff is here to put there foot down... thank you kohler ^^



Even though he didn't refer to you by 'nym, the context makes it clear he was referring to you too; which makes your comment somewhat ironic.