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Do you think President Obama should be voted in fo office again for the next three consecutive years? Yes or No and why?
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no, how much more damage do you want.
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no way, Obama has done more economic damage than the other presidents before him combined. Obama 2012 is when you work full-time and work as a stripper just to make ends meet.
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no way, Obama has done more economic damage than the other presidents before him combined. Obama 2012 is when you work full-time and work as a stripper just to make ends meet.
What about full-time strippers?
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no way, Obama has done more economic damage than the other presidents before him combined.
Simply not true.
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Things would be just as bad if not worse had McCain won. There's really no difference between the D's and the R's anymore. I read a saying once somewhere "If voting actually changed anything, do you think the gov't would allow voting?" The only guy running that would actually try to change things is Ron Paul, but the media downplays/smears him every chance they get while propping up big gov't lovers like Santorum. It doesn't matter if Obama wins or one of the 3 stooges wins, things will only change when the real money masters say so.
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He may be the best one available... however, if there is someone better (who does not give himself raises) I'll probably vote for him/her. :peace:
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Obama is just a front man for the power elite the same way Bush, Clinton, Bush and the rest since JFK have been. Santorum, Romney and Gingrich would just be more frontmen so it really doesn't matter who wins. The only guy who would be a President and not a Puppet is Ron Paul, but that's never going to happen cause the power guys won't allow it to. It doesn't matter who casts the votes, it matters who counts the votes.
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Obama is just a front man for the power elite the same way Bush, Clinton, Bush and the rest since JFK have been. Santorum, Romney and Gingrich would just be more frontmen so it really doesn't matter who wins. The only guy who would be a President and not a Puppet is Ron Paul, but that's never going to happen cause the power guys won't allow it to. It doesn't matter who casts the votes, it matters who counts the votes.
"The Electoral College consists of the electors appointed by each state who formally elect the President and Vice President of the United States. The Electoral College is an example of an indirect election, as opposed to a direct election. The Electoral College's existence is controversial. A 2001 Gallup article noted that "a majority of Americans have continually expressed support for the notion of an official amendment of the U.S. Constitution that would allow for direct election of the president" since one of the first-ever public polls on the matter in 1944, and Gallup found no significant change in 2004. Critics argue that the Electoral College is archaic, inherently undemocratic and gives certain swing states disproportionate influence in selecting the President and Vice President. Proponents argue that the Electoral College is an important, distinguishing feature of federalism in the United States and that it protects the rights of smaller states. Numerous constitutional amendments have been introduced in the Congress seeking to alter the Electoral College or replace it with a direct popular vote; however, no proposal has ever passed the Congress."
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no, how much more damage do you want.
The damage that was done USA today was not caused by President Obama, all this was happening before he was in office.
And it take time to fix them all, more than president cause these problems it will take more then to fix them all.
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:wave: obama has done nothing to help our country. you people are right the country was trouble be fore he took office. real simple the democrats had already taken control of congress shortly there after we went into a recession. congress passes the laws and spends the money. everyone gives clinton credit for balanced budget. b. s. gingrich and the republican congress forced him to balance the budget with a govern ment shut down in 1994. just read your history. the great depression franklin president and democratic congress. fifties one of the most prosperous times in our country. i ke was president and republican congress. the seventies double digit interest rates and unemployment president was peanut brain carter eighties properous regan president. are you starting to see a pattern. republicans mean prosperous times. democrats depression.recession.high interest rates,and high unemployment. get it
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The government wastes too much of taxpayers $$$$$. That's one reason why this country is trillions in debt.
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Do you think President Obama should be voted in fo office again for the next three consecutive years? Yes or No and why?
yes
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First of all, it is goverNment and secondly I think it does matter who is president in some ways. Even though they are all beholden to big money, corporations and the military industrial interests, do you really want a Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney or Jeb Bush in the office?
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Obama is just a front man for the power elite the same way Bush, Clinton, Bush and the rest since JFK have been. Santorum, Romney and Gingrich would just be more frontmen so it really doesn't matter who wins. The only guy who would be a President and not a Puppet is Ron Paul, but that's never going to happen cause the power guys won't allow it to. It doesn't matter who casts the votes, it matters who counts the votes.
"The Electoral College consists of the electors appointed by each state who formally elect the President and Vice President of the United States. The Electoral College is an example of an indirect election, as opposed to a direct election. The Electoral College's existence is controversial. A 2001 Gallup article noted that "a majority of Americans have continually expressed support for the notion of an official amendment of the U.S. Constitution that would allow for direct election of the president" since one of the first-ever public polls on the matter in 1944, and Gallup found no significant change in 2004. Critics argue that the Electoral College is archaic, inherently undemocratic and gives certain swing states disproportionate influence in selecting the President and Vice President. Proponents argue that the Electoral College is an important, distinguishing feature of federalism in the United States and that it protects the rights of smaller states. Numerous constitutional amendments have been introduced in the Congress seeking to alter the Electoral College or replace it with a direct popular vote; however, no proposal has ever passed the Congress."
So what does this mean exactly, please answer without flaming me :binkybaby:
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"The Electoral College consists of the electors appointed by each state who formally elect the President and Vice President of the United States. The Electoral College is an example of an indirect election, as opposed to a direct election. The Electoral College's existence is controversial. A 2001 Gallup article noted that "a majority of Americans have continually expressed support for the notion of an official amendment of the U.S. Constitution that would allow for direct election of the president" since one of the first-ever public polls on the matter in 1944, and Gallup found no significant change in 2004. Critics argue that the Electoral College is archaic, inherently undemocratic and gives certain swing states disproportionate influence in selecting the President and Vice President. Proponents argue that the Electoral College is an important, distinguishing feature of federalism in the United States and that it protects the rights of smaller states. Numerous constitutional amendments have been introduced in the Congress seeking to alter the Electoral College or replace it with a direct popular vote; however, no proposal has ever passed the Congress."
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So what does this mean exactly, please answer without flaming me :binkybaby:
It could mean that the Electoral College currently elects U.S. presidents. Why would I "flame" you for asking a question?
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"The Electoral College consists of the electors appointed by each state who formally elect the President and Vice President of the United States. The Electoral College is an example of an indirect election, as opposed to a direct election. The Electoral College's existence is controversial. A 2001 Gallup article noted that "a majority of Americans have continually expressed support for the notion of an official amendment of the U.S. Constitution that would allow for direct election of the president" since one of the first-ever public polls on the matter in 1944, and Gallup found no significant change in 2004. Critics argue that the Electoral College is archaic, inherently undemocratic and gives certain swing states disproportionate influence in selecting the President and Vice President. Proponents argue that the Electoral College is an important, distinguishing feature of federalism in the United States and that it protects the rights of smaller states. Numerous constitutional amendments have been introduced in the Congress seeking to alter the Electoral College or replace it with a direct popular vote; however, no proposal has ever passed the Congress."
So what does this mean exactly, please answer without flaming me :binkybaby:
It could mean that the Electoral College currently elects U.S. presidents. Why would I "flame" you for asking a question?
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You could flame me for ignorance of how the government works, so the Electoral college is one that overturns people's votes in each state or tallies them?
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You could flame me for ignorance of how the government works, so the Electoral college is one that overturns people's votes in each state or tallies them?
The electoral college votes are the only ones that are actually counted.
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You could flame me for ignorance of how the government works, so the Electoral college is one that overturns people's votes in each state or tallies them?
The electoral college votes are the only ones that are actually counted.
? so is the electoral college the citizens or no ???
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Do you think President Obama should be voted in fo office again for the next three consecutive years? Yes or No and why?
Should he be voted in to office, well that question cannot be answered without first considering who really votes the president in and how little difference it really makes when a new president is elected. I personally would love to see Ron Paul as the president but I know that will not happen because 'they' simply will not allow it. To answer your question, it doesn't matter but the American public should see what kind of 'change' they will get from him.
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so is the electoral college the citizens or no
http://www.howstuffworks.com/electoral-college.htm
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so is the electoral college the citizens or no
http://www.howstuffworks.com/electoral-college.htm
"Under this system, each state is assigned a specific number of votes that is proportional to its population, so that each state's power is representative of its population. So, while winning the popular vote may not ensure a candidate's victory, a candidate must gain popular support of a particular state to win the votes in that state. The goal of any candidate is to put together the right combination of states that will give him or her 270 electoral votes."
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so is the electoral college the citizens or no
http://www.howstuffworks.com/electoral-college.htm
"Under this system, each state is assigned a specific number of votes that is proportional to its population, so that each state's power is representative of its population. So, while winning the popular vote may not ensure a candidate's victory, a candidate must gain popular support of a particular state to win the votes in that state. The goal of any candidate is to put together the right combination of states that will give him or her 270 electoral votes."
So votes from citizens are like raffle tickets? Increases the chance of them winning the electoral vote prize?
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so is the electoral college the citizens or no
http://www.howstuffworks.com/electoral-college.htm
"Under this system, each state is assigned a specific number of votes that is proportional to its population, so that each state's power is representative of its population. So, while winning the popular vote may not ensure a candidate's victory, a candidate must gain popular support of a particular state to win the votes in that state. The goal of any candidate is to put together the right combination of states that will give him or her 270 electoral votes."
So votes from citizens are like raffle tickets? Increases the chance of them winning the electoral vote prize?
"It is important to remember that the President is not chosen by a nation-wide popular vote. The electoral vote totals determine the winner, not the statistical plurality or majority a candidate may have in the nation-wide vote totals. Electoral votes are awarded on the basis of the popular vote in each State.
Note that 48 out of the 50 States award electoral votes on a winner-takes-all basis (as does DC). For example, all 55 of California's electoral votes go to the winner of that State election, even if the margin of victory is only 50.1 percent to 49.9 percent.
In a multi-candidate race where candidates have strong regional appeal, as in 1824, it is quite possible that a candidate who collects the most votes on a nation-wide basis will not win the electoral vote. In a two-candidate race, that is less likely to occur. But it did occur in the Hayes/Tilden election of 1876 and the Harrison/Cleveland election of 1888 due to the statistical disparity between vote totals in individual State elections and the national vote totals. This also occured in the 2000 presidential election, where George W. Bush received fewer popular votes than Albert Gore Jr., but received a majority of electoral votes."
source:http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html
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I agree that Government wastes taxpayers money. The Government is mis-managed and has been for years. I think we need a man like Bloomberg in office. At least he has financial background.
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Well i don't see where he has followed through on almost anything he promised, except blame other people. I don't know if any of the rep. that are running are any better, but we don't need 4 more years of this .
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When he is elected for his next term it will be for four years, not three.
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A serious voter who looks at the accomplishments of the present administration would not even consider keeping the status quo. We need new blood in the white house to turn this country around.
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:) Yes, The American people have to give him a chance to do what he said he was going to do. Like the rest of the other Presidents :peace: