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My 21 Year Old Daughter Is Depressed Again ,Afraid To Take The Meds The Dr Gave Her. What Can I Do To Convince Her They Are Safe!
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Did she say why she was afraid to take them? I was on zoloft for a while and I didn't like the way it made me feel. Meaning I just felt numb.
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Make her drink water and practice good mental health habits too! Take her for a walk, to the Zoo, park or some other community activity...so she gets some exercise and interaction with some other people.
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Try to get as much information possible for the medicine she does not want to take. Have her talk to a professional, but most of all, be there to support her.
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Honestly, I would not take them either.
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The only thing I have to say is that once someone start taking the medicine for depression it will be hard to stop taking them. It seems like you are always tired and ready to lay down and go to sleep.
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Don't explain to her that she shouldn't be affraid of them, explain the scientific and medical applications of this drug. Go online, and get educated about how the drug works in her system, and illustrated for her. Maybe making it visualised will help her not to be affraid. :thumbsup:
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You'd have to find out why she's afraid to take them, and then go through the information about them with her. The other option is to see if there are other ways to treat it, like therapy.
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anti psychotic drugs are not safe....they cause all kinds of problems, but considering the pain a mentally ill person is experiencing the risk is worth it. maybe she needs to talk to her therapist and he can give her a different kind that will take the fear away
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ask her why she doesnt want to take them maybe its becasue she is scared of the way its gonna make her feel. or maybe you can ask her doctor what are the side effects of it. honestly i feel like you should try everything else not involving meds because a lot of them usually have side effects. so watch out
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I was manic depressive about a year ago and refused to take medicine... I didn't want to think of myself as having to be medicated in order to get through life. I finally realized one day that I couldn't do it on my own and talked to a pastor at a local church and started attending services. Now I am a part of the Worship and Praise Team, a church volunteer, and am getting more involved in my community. I remember praying before I went to sleep that I wouldn't wake up...and now I don't like to go to sleep because I don't want to miss anything. I don't want to sound like a religious nut or that I'm trying to push religion as a cure all, but I will say getting involved and being able to help others was certainly a POSITIVE way to help myself and see the good that I can do for others.
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Well Thank You Will Approach The Subject But She Has Never Gone To Church
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I would look the medicine up on the internet and see for myself and show her as well. If you still can't et her to take the medicine try serotonin vitamins supplements and St. John's Wort tea doctors say it's effective for depression. God Bless! :angel11:
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She Loves Regular Tea Maybe She Would Try That ,Dr Gave Her More Depression Meds She Want Even Get Them Filled Says Her Bad affect With the ones she took when she was 16 was enough to deter her permanantly
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you don't do the homiopathic way
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I Dont Know What Homiopathic means, sorry
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Homeopathic is natural meds like the st. johns wort mentioned before. Its works for some people. There are a lot of anti depressants on the market (prescription). She doesn't have to take the one she took before. They each can have different side effects she may have to try several before she finds one that works well for her. I've been there. She has to decide if working through potential side effects is worth it. For some people it can take the world from black and white to color. And for some people it doesn't help or isn't worth it. Right now it's what I need. Good Luck to both of you.
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Thank You Very Much We Are Going To Have To Try !
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I've taken a few different drugs for depression and some of them don't make you feel good or feel nothing. Everyone will feel differently so she has to try them and really be open minded and be honest if she doesn't like them for any reason and talk to the doctor again. There are so many options out there you are bound to find something that works for her.
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sorry to hear about depression - hope it gets better soon and happiness can be found!
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me to we will see she has a place with her boyfriend and baby maybe they can work it out
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Exercise is helping me tremendously!
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My doctor asked if I'd like to take meds for depression but I refused. I don't like the idea of artificial happiness. If I'm discontent with life, it's my job to find meaning, not glaze it over with drugs.
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take her for a vacation or find her interests....
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Mental Illness is all in your head
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I wish I had something great to offer. I have a few relatives who feel the same way about ADD meds and other meds. I'm not sure what their lives would be like if they actually took them. However, I do know that they're unable to keep a job. Since my baby was born 9 months ago, I've felt blah and not willing or anxious to do anything. I recently forced myself out of the house and started walking. I'm finally starting to smile.
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I wish I had something great to offer. I have a few relatives who feel the same way about ADD meds and other meds. I'm not sure what their lives would be like if they actually took them. However, I do know that they're unable to keep a job. Since my baby was born 9 months ago, I've felt blah and not willing or anxious to do anything. I recently forced myself out of the house and started walking. I'm finally starting to smile.
If it's postpartum depression, then it's because of the sudden drop in progesterone hormone after giving birth.
Our niece suffered with it after having both of her children. It was successfully treated with a natural progesterone cream. The one by WAM Essentials (Dr. William Wong) is pretty good as it doesn't list having alot of chemicals or parabens, etc...
Low thyroid hormones can make someone depressed after giving birth. Look up Dennis Wilson, MD, T3, Wilson's Thyroid Syndrome and find a doctor from his site in your area. Low thyroid can also happen without pregnancy too, of course. But if it's a depression where nothing bad happened, then it could be hormones.
NCR helped me, as I felt euphoric after the session.
Natural therapies are always the best.
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A couple of times in my life I was depressed because of various things that had taken place in my life. I believe medicine covers up what the real problem is and keeps it there internally. I always search for a solution to a problem that will eliminate the pain. What I have learned over time the reason to this depression that I faced was that I would wrap my emotions around unforgiveness; someone saying or doing something I didnt like, people using me, not having confidence or not knowing who I was at the time etc. As I have matured I find that a heart that is thirsty for more of God's word (the bible) that one begins to be strengthened and more spiritually aware of the possibilites of true deliverance, and change. Depression is no joke I've gone through it and believe that sincere faith, consistant love, a various of other helpful things that get the mind off of pain, of course dreams (the vision) of accomplishing, hobbies, etc. can remove a heavy heart. Thinking about the good things about self and others, the big and little things out of life that cause us to smile, blush, laugh will eventually out weigh the negitive once practiced daily. Life is ment to live more abundantly, we should never let set backs, disappointments, loved one's leaving us, haunt us for the rest of our lifes. Brighter days exist when we put value were it should have been all along. In prayer for you and your loved ones.
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Thank You, I Will Do My Best To remember This All!
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Not Sure I Beleive Mental Illness is all in your head!
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This issue probably isn't safety; many people with problems are reluctant to turn to meds because they think it makes them weak or crazy. What they don't understand is that there is a physical problem in their brain that is beyond their control causing the issue. If you don't feel bad taking cold medicine for the flu, then you shouldn't feel bad taking meds for your head.
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It depends on why she's afraid. Many people don't take depression seriously as a disease and don't want to take certain meds in particular. It might require a little more delving. Good luck and God bless. It's a difficult situation to have and hard for others to understand unless they have been there.
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Try finding some sites on-line with helpful ideas and psoitive results.
You should show her that there are many people living and thriving on medication for depression.
A good book for self-help is 'A workbook for depession' It is easy to follow and is interactive rather than just reading
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Taking medications for depression can make a person addicted to those drugs. The side effects will affect your daily life and thinking. Reasoning becomes very hard to do. A shrink may help and help you find out the reasons for the depression. She can take the B vitamins complex or a multivitamin. Try to lift her up by telling her nice things like how pretty she is, she is smart, etc. :thumbsup:
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Yes most of the depression meds are terrible and I for one try other methods to relieve depression. Meds es[ecially the ones for depression have horrible side effects and sometimes make one feel worse instead of better
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My 21 Year Old Daughter Is Depressed Again ,Afraid To Take The Meds The Dr Gave Her. What Can I Do To Convince Her They Are Safe!
If support from family and friends, positive lifestyle changes, and emotional skills building aren’t enough, seek help from a mental health professional. There are many effective treatments for depression, including therapy, medication, and alternative treatments. Learning about your options will help you decide what measures are most likely to work best for your particular situation and needs.
Are antidepressants right for you?
Medication can help relieve the symptoms of depression in some people, but they aren’t a cure and they come with drawbacks of their own. Learning the facts about antidepressants and weighing the benefits against the risks can help you make an informed and personal decision about whether medication is right for you.
Effective treatment for depression often includes some form of therapy. Therapy gives you tools to treat depression from a variety of angles. Also, what you learn in therapy gives you skills and insight to prevent depression from coming back.
Some types of therapy teach you practical techniques on how to reframe negative thinking and employ behavioral skills in combating depression. Therapy can also help you work through the root of your depression, helping you understand why you feel a certain way, what your triggers are for depression, and what you can do to stay healthy.
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I would suggest trying to find something more natural. There are a lot of bad meds out there....
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some depression meds made me very sick and i grinded my teeth. Zoloft is working great for me. I was like your daughter and didn't want anything else to do with meds. Just take it slow with her and show her all the benefits the meds can have for her :heart:
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Well I am bipolar and depression sucks for me somedays I am not on meds because even when I took my meds and something drastic happened I would take them all depression sucks and I still have somedays where I sit and cry and think of doing crazy things but I try to keep myself busy and i dont keep any pills around me due to the past behaviors I seen what it did to my kids and it has stayed with me.
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Thanks For All The Advice We Are Doing A Little Better She Is Trying To Keep Busy,And Actually Trying To Be A Little Nicer To Her Kids,But I Know We Have A Long Way To Go!
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My 21 Year Old Daughter Is Depressed Again ,Afraid To Take The Meds The Dr Gave Her. What Can I Do To Convince Her They Are Safe!
Well depression is a demon and to really get free she needs to call on jesus and get saved you do to .
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go with her to the prescribing doctor, have him explain in detail all of the pro's and all of the cons about the med. perhaps he can come up with something different for her that might help?
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My 21 Year Old Daughter Is Depressed Again ,Afraid To Take The Meds The Dr Gave Her. What Can I Do To Convince Her They Are Safe!
she needs to call on the bname thats above all names jesus
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You might read about this, you find it at the health foood store. I Theanine. I have a friend who takes this and has been able to come off her Dr. med. Has made this last year easier for her.
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hensleyll,
I've been wondering how your daughter (and you) are doing and am glad to hear she is feeling a bit better. I'm sure she knows how blessed she is to have a Mom supporting her through this.
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Sometimes She Does Others She Doesn`t ,My Hard Part Is To Have Pateince And Not Lose My Temper!!!!!!!!!!!Heard Someone In Our Neighborhood Committed suicide Because of Suicide
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Not Sure I Beleive Mental Illness is all in your head!
The NCR doctors trained in Neurocranial Restructuring says that alot of illnesses are because of structural problems in the skull.
But that is meant in a different way. In the more physical sense. The sphenoid bone is s the target area of NCR. It's the bone almost all the other bones of the skull come into contact with! When that is out, the rest of the skull is out. Then the spine follows with misalignments. Chronic structural problems can cause organs to malfunction due to the nerve pathways being blocked or pinched by misalignments. If it happens in the neck (say C7 for instance), it could result in low thyroid. If it happens in T7, then pancreas gland can malfunction. Then if the hormones are low, depression can set in, and so forth. See the connection?
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This was put to the test with me, as in 2006 I had AtlasProfilax, and everything else seemed to fall in place for the whole year afterwards. It was great, but didn't last long, so we went one step further and had the NCR done. The changes in the face is unreal. Headaches disappear, spine follows with alignments little by little, and things start improving. It's best to do several sessions. They are costly, but well worth it.
http://www.ncrdoctors.com/
These are some of the postural changes and facial changes after NCR sessions. You can see that the people look more calm and happier afterwards.
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An awesome healing modality for the structure. NeuroCranial Restructuring can reset body structure and restore natural symmetry. This can do wonders throughout the whole body.
NeuroCranial Restructuring® is the newest and most powerful therapy in physical medicine. NCR® is a cumulative treatment process involving controlled release of the connective tissue tension to unwind the body and return it toward its original design. NCR® utilizes careful analysis of the body’s proprioception (patterns of balance) to determine the precise areas of the skull needing to be unlocked during each day’s treatment.
This sounds very complex, but in practice it is relatively simple:
After receiving a form of deep muscle massage and external cranial manipulation, the patient is analyzed to determine the cranial treatment pattern for the day. Then the patient is positioned on a treatment table with one or two therapists helping to hold him/her in a very specific position. The skull is finally released by the action of small, inflatable endonasal balloons that are inserted through the nostril and inflated briefly into the throat. The inflation feels like getting water up the nose and rarely requires five seconds to complete. Endonasal balloons in treatment are not new. They have been used during cranial therapy for over seventy years. Frequently these treatments, such as Bilateral Nasal Specific therapy, gave relief of symptoms and some long-term results while using a generalized pattern of treatment. Many of the results, however, were temporary and the treatment was frequently painful.
NCR® is different from these therapies. With the specific treatment pattern found with NCR®'s careful analysis and the new addition of specific body positioning, the entire skeletal structure can be permanently changed with NCR®. This unlocking of the connective tissues' residual tensions combines with precise movements of the cranial bones to allow the structural systems of the body to move incrementally and cumulatively towards the body’s original design.
NCR® creates a permanent structural release for the changes triggered by traumatic events of a body’s life. Birth trauma, accidents and falls, sports injuries, medical procedures, severe emotional and biochemical traumas are just some of the causes of musculoskeletal damage that are released with NCR®. Conditions like:
*Alzheimer’s
*Anxiety and nervousness
*Arthritis, bursitis, rheumatism
*Attention Deficit Disorder, dyslexia, hyperactivity and other learning disabilities
*Autism
*Cerebral palsy
*Concussion and other head injuries
*Depression, obsessive-compulsive disorder
*Down’s Syndrome
*Dystonia
*Ear infection and deafness
*Glaucoma, double vision and other vision problems
*Headaches, head pressure, migraines
*Insomnia
*Low energy, Fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue
*Muscle spasms, neck and shoulder pain
*Organ functioning
*Orthodontic stress and bruxism
*Osteoporosis
*Parkinson’s disease and tremors
*Phobias
*Poor concentration and focus
*Relationship difficulties
*Sciatica, kyphosis (hunchback), lordosis (swayback), scoliosis (spiral spine)
*Seizures
*Sinusitis, sleep apnea, snoring, other breathing and sinus disorders
*Strokes
*Tinnitus
*TMD, TMJ (mouth, head and jaw pains)
*Vertigo and other balance problems
*Whiplash Syndrome
*Wrinkles (NCR® replaces a face lift)
Here's what Dr. Dean Howell (the doctor who developed NCR) says about Depression...
http://www.drdeanhowell.com/
Depression
I have had clinical success with depression, obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) and bipolar disorder. The schizophrenics and psychotics I have worked with have been too suspicious of me to get enough treatment to receive any major benefits.
Psychiatric conditions like depression, obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), schizophrenia, manic-depression and psychosis are rarely effectively treated with counseling. Most of the time, psychiatric drugs are prescribed to treat these conditions. The common natural approaches are to mimic the effects of the drugs with less toxic substances that are similarly designed to change the levels of brain neurotransmitters.
There are abnormalities (deficiencies) in the levels of neurotransmitters of the brain in the psychiatric-chemical model used to describe these treatment techniques. The drugs raise the level of the target neurotransmitter throughout the brain. This allows the areas of the brain previously deficient in the target neurotransmitter to have sufficient levels of neurotransmitter. The psychiatric condition is often controlled in this manner.
In the rare situation of a true neurotransmitter deficiency state, these medications perform brilliantly. They address the cause of the situation, the lack of neurotransmitter manufacture.
But most people on such medications experience side effects. Often the side effects are involved with functions that are not related to the actual complaint. A depressed person taking Prozac, for instance, can feel less depressed and have sexual impotence from the medication. These are problems of over-dosing the brain with the target neurotransmitter in the areas that had sufficient supply previously.
When one area of the brain has enough neurotransmitter and another area of the brain has too little or too much, this is not a problem of manufacture. It is a problem with uneven distribution of neurotransmitters.
The chemicals of the brain flow in liquid blood and cerebrospinal fluid. The flow of fluid is determined partially by the shape of the vessel. The brain resembles a sponge in ways. A round sponge can be put into a cubical container, but it won't hold as much water in the areas that are squished to fit in the box. Likewise, a brain will not hold normal amounts of fluids when it is in an imperfectly shaped box.
With NCR, the shape of the skull gradually moves closer and closer to its optimal design. As the skull optimizes, the fluid flow characteristics of the skull, and the brain functions that are controlled by the fluid dynamics, optimize as well.
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OK That Not Going To Happen!She Is Scared To Death Of Being Put To Sleep
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thanks for the advice though
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OK That Not Going To Happen!She Is Scared To Death Of Being Put To Sleep
Dear... It's not surgery.
It's endonasal balloon therapy basically.
The sphenoid can be easily accessed via an endo nasal balloon. It's like a chiropractic adjustment through the nasal passages. It's done in TWO SECONDS, and feels like water up the nose, for two seconds. That's it!
Not a single cut, no being put to sleep, nor any drugs from NCR. And it's THAT quick too.
If you had read the sites I posted, you would have found out. 100% alternative.
The before and after pics are dramatic and many issues resolved.
Watch the YouTube videos and you'll see it's not as scary as it sounds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ngRpnBN3ag
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mzeDNXoYr4
http://vimeo.com/19037257
This child had the same thing that my twin nephews had. My nephews both had surgery costing in the thousands of dollars. Had they known about NCR, ALOT of money could have been saved and the twins' faces alot better off.
http://www.southfloridawellnesscenter.com/sub_pages/chad_ncr.html
The occipital headache/body pain lady in the above post had only ONE session of NCR of four days in a row. She got that HUGE change in just four days. She's a patient of Dr. Hillary Lampers, ND.
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wow sounds so easy but we are not exactly poor only make 150 a week cant even get my painful varicose veins taken care by insurance because it considered cosmotic
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i mean we are not exactly rich, almost poor
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i mean we are not exactly rich, almost poor
I know what you mean. :D
It takes me a while to save for mine. I'm due for a second NCR session, and in the process of saving the money.
In Florida, there's a chiropractor that does NCR, and being a chiropractor, he might be able to accept insurance. There's also a medical doctor in FL too. It's mostly the NDs that do it, but I don't think NDs can accept insurance. Ours doesn't.
NCR is something that an income tax refund can pay for.
Regarding varicose veins, look into nutrition. Systemic enzymes such as serrapeptase can get rid of those.
The natural Chelation-Anti-Inflammatory Serrapeptase has had wide clinical use – spanning over twenty-five years throughout Europe and Asia – as a viable alternative to salicylates, ibuprofen and the more potent NSAIDs. Unlike these drugs, Serrapeptase is a naturally occurring, physiological agent with no inhibitory effects on prostaglandins and is devoid of gastrointestinal side effects. See Studies and Technical Information.
Serrapeptase is a proteolytic enzyme isolated from the micro-organism Serratia E15. This enzyme is naturally processed commercially today through fermentation and was discovered in the silkworm intestine. This immunologically active enzyme is completely bound to the alpha 2 macroglobulin in biological fluids. Histological studies reveal powerful anti-inflammatory effects of this naturally occurring enzyme.
Serrapeptase digests non-living tissue, blood clots, cysts, and arterial plaque and inflammation in all forms. The late German physician, Dr. Hans Nieper, used Serrapeptase to treat arterial blockage in his coronary patients. Serrapeptase protects against stroke and is reportedly more effective and quicker than EDTA Chelation treatments in removing arterial plaque. He also reports that Serrapeptase dissolves blood clots and causes varicose veins to shrink or diminish. Dr. Nieper told of a woman scheduled for hand amputation and a man scheduled for bypass surgery who both recovered quickly without surgery after treatment with Serrapeptase.
The brands I prefer are: Arthur Andrew Medical Neprinol AFD Advanced Fibrin Defense and/or Serretia 90c and Zymessence by Dr Wong. Those seem to be the best as far as strength and no cheap fillers. Particularly the Arthur Andrew Medical brand.
Colloidal and chelated copper will also strengthen the veins, arteries and capillaries. Selenium is also good for that too.
Look up Dr. William Wong and Dr. Joel Wallach and these ailments and you'll find articles on how they will help. Or search Dead Doctors Don't Lie. You'll find TONS of info.