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Title: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: dansazz on June 26, 2012, 12:18:12 am
Is it natural? Should someone have the right to do this? What are your thoughts.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: hicaniplay on June 26, 2012, 12:57:42 am
Hah what a coincidence as I was just posting sorta about this on your other topic.

I think it's fine. Of course they have a right to do whatever they want with their own bodies - this generally isn't a harmful practice, like suicide or eating disorders. That it's performed by surgeons makes me feel much better (as opposed to people who do at home alterations to their bodies).
Of course, not everyone goes "all the way" to surgical options. Some do just hormones and others just live as their proper gender regardless of their genitals. This is also fine. Everyone is different.

And what is natural? Clownfish change their gender (as do other fish, starfish, some lesser animals, a frog species...)


Off Topic - I think you should post these kind of topics in the sub-forum "Debate & Discuss (http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?board=9.0)" since this could potentially turn into a "divisive discussion".
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: momdileo on June 26, 2012, 07:41:31 am
Everyone has a right to do what they want to their body. Everybody gets tatoos why not change everything.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: lvstephanie on June 26, 2012, 08:00:18 am
If you mean "Is the surgery natural?" then of course not, but if you mean "Is the desire to have this operation natural?" then it becomes a trickier question... For some people (esp. XXY males (they have two X chromosomes like females and a Y chromosome making them male)) they may have a very legitimate reason why they feel that they were born the wrong gender. So in some cases, I could see how the desire may be natural. I think that as this is something that they are doing to themselves, then they have every right to do so, just as others have the right to decry this as an abomination to God's creation. We live in a free country so as long as you are not infringing on another's rights, then you should be able to do whatever you want.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: mary_k on June 26, 2012, 08:03:47 am
I have a friend that is going through it right now and he felt he wanted to be a female at a very young age.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: tashamjoy on June 26, 2012, 04:16:44 pm
I think it is a crazy thing but most people who do this are very serious and if thats whats gonna make them happy i dont have a problem with it at all
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: catherinedwhite on June 26, 2012, 04:19:03 pm
I am really not sure how I feel about this subject.
I do feel everyone has a right to make their own decisions.
I would hope any person who decides to have a
sex change would take years to make the decision.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: Shandara09 on June 26, 2012, 05:41:31 pm
It's not something that should be taken lightly, but I feel like people definitely have the right to do it.  Happiness is so hard to get sometimes, and if this helps someone feel whole and happy, they should definitely have the right to do so.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: pattersondebra on June 26, 2012, 05:46:49 pm
To each thier own. I just feel awful for those who have to hide who they really are because of society.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: EubCes on June 26, 2012, 05:59:28 pm
I think people should be happy as god made them
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: falcon9 on June 26, 2012, 06:10:31 pm
I think people should be happy as god made them

There's no evidence that some hypothetical egregore "made" anyone, (aside from specious religious beliefs based upon non-evidentiary "faith", which constitutes evidence of blind faith, not of 'creationism').


"We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes."
-- Gene Roddenberry
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: willdunn94 on June 26, 2012, 06:47:17 pm
I think maybe you should go for it if it's what you really care to do. If you end up regretting it later that could be reason to reconsider if at all possible but it is necessary to give it adequate thought prior to operation.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: davidh121 on June 26, 2012, 11:52:24 pm
I feel this is the person's choice as long as other people are not asked to foot the bill as I believe I heard one story of such a thing happen.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: tzs on June 27, 2012, 12:04:34 am
to each his own..... :wave: :peace:
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: FC4Autumn on June 27, 2012, 01:33:37 am
We know so little about what makes a person believe they are the wrong gender, how can anyone judge them.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: ajami on June 27, 2012, 01:41:13 am
Everyone has a right to choose what or who they want to be.  We have no right to judge them or their choices but that is just my 2 cents on the subject.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: demaina on June 27, 2012, 02:18:01 am
People have the right to do whatever they want to their body.  It really isn't anyone's place to tell someone to do or not do something.  As far as being natural, I don't consider it to be natural.  But, then again, is putting make up on your face natural?  Personally I think it's not natural, but many people do it daily and no one attacks them for it.  Many women get their ears pierced and no one looks at that oddly.  Heck, people squeeze and stuff their bodies and feet into things to appear attractive and it isn't looked down upon if done "correctly" (i.e. they look good in these items).

Now, obviously this is major surgery that could possibly kill them (depending on what they are doing and such) so I'd hope they'd think about it long and hard before just deciding to change anything about themselves.  I'd hate for them to be like the women who get bigger *bleep* to please their partner only to want them reduced back to their original size later.

I'd also hope that they'd consider what they are getting into before changing.  Depending on where they live, this could possibly make them an outcast.  At the very least, people are going to be constantly judging whether this was right.  And then they need to consider the gender stereotypes that will be forced onto them.


Personally, considering all that, I'd hope they'd figure out a way to love themselves just how they are, but I wouldn't look down on them for changing.  Though, my opinion might be different if I was married to a guy who suddenly decided to have a sex change.  I don't think I'd be alright with it then, but we would have to discuss all the issue.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: bigedshult on June 27, 2012, 01:39:08 pm
it is wrong. to chang your sex god made u the sex u are .
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: nycgal85 on June 27, 2012, 01:56:23 pm
I think u should be happy with who u r no one is in da wrong body its just da feeling that ur in da wrong body which ur not n if u still feel ur in da wrong Body that mean ur saying that God is wrong n he is never wrong n he made u just the way u r n u should be happy with who u r coz that how God made u n he is never ever wrong he is always and always have been 100% right.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: barbme1972 on June 27, 2012, 02:16:06 pm
I don't fully understand it...but I do know that some people just don't feel like they are what they are.  So, everyone has a right to do what they want with their own bodies.  I just hope that those that are not comfortable with the sex they are do some real soul searching before going through with any surgeries, as there is always a risks with any kind of surgery.  But to each their own.   :wave:
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: falcon9 on June 27, 2012, 04:55:47 pm
if u still feel ur in da wrong Body that mean ur saying that God is wrong n he is never wrong n he made u just the way u r n u should be happy with who u r coz that how God made u n he is never ever wrong he is always and always have been 100% right.

it is wrong. to chang your sex god made u the sex u are .

Both of these premises rely upon religious beliefs; "g-d" didn't make our bodies, our parents had more to do with that than some hypothetical egregore for which there is no substantiating evidence.  Such superstitious remarks emphasize what's wrong with religious proselytization.

"I suggest that the anthropomorphic g-d idea is not a harmless infirmity of human thought, but a very noxious fallacy, which is largely responsible for the calamities the world is at present enduring."
-- William Archer
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: sokeribe910 on June 28, 2012, 06:47:03 am
I don't think sex change is natural at all! Why would someone every want to ave a sex change? I don't understand that kind of thinking.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: cneimsn on June 28, 2012, 07:02:19 am
I'm with you.  We can't judge them unless you walk in their shoes.  We have no idea how they feel in their bodies and its not for us to decide anyone elses way of life. I think you should pay attention to your own life and let everyone else live theirs they way they want to, not for us to say.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: hicaniplay on June 28, 2012, 07:47:21 am
For the most part, this topic has made me smile. As opposed to a lot of the gay related topics.

Thank you FC members! You restore a little bit of my faith in humanity (that is nearly always destroyed if I look at, say, Yahoo! news comment sections lol)
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: masked_brown_guy on June 28, 2012, 08:23:30 am
I think it is a waste of time a resources if there are gay and homosexual rights. Then again some people love expensive things. I do not have anything against it but at the same time why should I even care if a person is a another person stuck in a undesirable body. That's why some people have kids, to get that person out of them.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: albefish on June 28, 2012, 08:27:38 am
God doesn't make any mistakes. If he made you one to be a male or female, then you should not make the change.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: MsLeadn on June 28, 2012, 10:28:33 am
Funny that I was discussing this topic so early this morning and now it is posted. I think that whatever is in your heart to do is what you will follow. If that helps to maintain happiness in your life then hey do what you have to do.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: Red02102002 on June 28, 2012, 10:30:19 am
 ;) Yes if somebody like it if they 're bored and need a new life.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: falcon9 on June 28, 2012, 12:39:38 pm
God doesn't make any mistakes. 

Neither do invisible pink unicorns, transparent blue elves nor opaque purple orcs.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: sigmapi1501 on June 28, 2012, 12:55:07 pm
God doesn't make any mistakes.

Pauly Shore???
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: duroz on June 28, 2012, 07:55:18 pm

 What do I think about sex change?

Mmmmmm........

No, sorry I just can't accept it.

No change, it will have to be bills - larger denomination bills preferred.
(It's a nuisance dealing with all those small ones)
 :o
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: duroz on June 28, 2012, 07:57:53 pm
;) Yes if somebody like it if they 're bored..........

So then....
Bored - Get a sex change?

 ???
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: falcon9 on June 29, 2012, 12:36:47 am
What do I think about sex change?
 Mmmmmm........

No, sorry I just can't accept it.
No change, it will have to be bills - larger denomination bills preferred.
(It's a nuisance dealing with all those small ones)
 :o

'A biker and his, (let's say, "girlfriend"), were low on cash so they mutually-decided, (sure they did), that she'd do a little 'street-walking' for some dinero.  So, off she goes and after a very long day, returns home after 3AM and dumps the money she made on the table.  Her biker boyfriend looks through the loot and picks up a coin, demanding to know "who the cheap *bleep* was who only gave her a quarters?!?"

She replied all doe-eyed, "They all did."
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: walksalone11 on June 29, 2012, 11:51:48 am
Around here, lately, any kind of sex would be a change....... :-
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: momoney555 on June 29, 2012, 12:30:35 pm
As if life isn't hard enough, I can't imagine how tough it must be to be forced to be something you know you're not just to fit into society.   Who am I to say whether it is right or wrong if I am not livng that persons life.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: rosieperez on June 30, 2012, 10:11:19 pm
I think it actually depends on the person but besides that I don't see it as a problem. every body has a choice but are they willing to make a decision instead of second guessing themselves.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: duroz on July 01, 2012, 01:09:20 am
Around here, lately, any kind of sex would be a change....... :-

(http://i.imgur.com/2Hkzg.gif)
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: Zhongmou on July 01, 2012, 02:31:46 pm
I was avoiding reading this topic for awhile, II thought I'd be reading a bunch of idiotic posts) but I thought I'd come check it out. Once again, I am surprised by the people of FC and their tolerance and acceptance.

I'm not very religious but all I have to say is, we are ALL gods children.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: falcon9 on July 01, 2012, 02:34:35 pm
I'm not very religious but all I have to say is, we are ALL gods children.

If they were so, we'd have a 'deadbeat dad'.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: angsilva2000 on July 01, 2012, 02:37:49 pm
I  thinks its up to the person if they want to have that done
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: patti4me on July 01, 2012, 02:44:00 pm
I'm not saying people who want sex changes aren't troubled but I would recommend having some serious therapy before deciding on surgery. And, by serious therapy I'm not talking about the therapist the surgeon recommends.  I would also be afraid that after having the surgery, somewhere down the road I'd want my original self back.  I feel compassion for these people but believe there are other answers.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: healthfreedom on July 22, 2012, 03:45:07 pm
I think it is one of the most stupid things anybody can do. But the fact is, it is their body. They can do what they wish when it comes to that.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: vee46 on July 24, 2012, 02:12:35 pm
i personally believe to each it own-i don't knock anyone's  personal preference; however, whatever body parts or characteristics were we born with should die with. :star:
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: inkfection on July 24, 2012, 07:12:07 pm
I think sex change should be viewed as any other choice that people make in life. It is their own decision. As long as they are not hurting anyone else, the public should have no say whatsoever. I say good for them, people who takes their lives into their own hands and make the changes they feel necessary to obtain happiness. Why should they be denied what they need to make them feel complete? Many of us in the world are miserable every day and chose to do nothing but complain about our unhappiness. So again, good for them.  :)
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: ajami on July 27, 2012, 01:42:57 am
Everyone has a right to live the way they want.  Make any changes they want to their bodies.  There is no wrong or right, we have no right to judge anyone.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: ttix67 on July 29, 2012, 03:11:50 pm
I don't really believe sex changes are natural. If someone really feels uncomfortable in their own skin, there may be some kind of underlying issue in the persona of that individual rather than something as simple as "they wanted to do it". I'm not vehemently opposed to it, but I am not as liberal to it as some of the above posters.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: ninajay on July 29, 2012, 06:04:21 pm
A sex change is definitely not natural, but a person can do what they want to their body.  I hope that the person has had a lot of therapy before they go through with this major change. I saw a program a few years ago where a man transitioned into a woman. She got married or lived with boyfriend (don't recall) and few years later regretted her decision to transition. She spoke as if she's okay and will continue to live as a woman, but I wonder how a person can truly deal with that kind of regret.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: tzs on July 29, 2012, 09:47:56 pm
If you are going to do it, think long and hard about your decision, because if you change your mind, like some people do several times, the public will be paying for that person to flip-flop genders. Other than that, I think it's fine!!
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: diala84 on July 30, 2012, 01:52:25 pm
I wouldn't necessarily call it natural but we do a lot of unnatural things, gastric bypass, tattoos, piercings, implants, cosmetic surgery, hair transplants, etc.. so who is to say a sex change is any different. Do what you want with your body as long as your don't harm others or yourself. 
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: lgemini on August 07, 2012, 07:36:51 am
If that person know that they are not in the right body, so why we need to stop people from being happy. 
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: gennjen on August 07, 2012, 08:36:12 am
I don't see anything wrong with it. it's there own body and they have the right to do anything.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: egypt31 on August 09, 2012, 02:08:16 am
Is it natural? Should someone have the right to do this? What are your thoughts.
Ouch, yuck, and who would think this to be right... What other kind of animal would even ponder something so unnatural than the one that calls itself the smartest of all animals, sometimes I wonder???????????? :dontknow: :angry7: :crybaby2: :crybaby2: :crybaby2: :crybaby2: :crybaby2: :crybaby2: :crybaby2: :crybaby2:
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: falcon9 on August 09, 2012, 02:12:05 am
Ouch, yuck, and who would think this to be right... What other kind of animal would even ponder something so unnatural than the one that calls itself the smartest of all animals, sometimes I wonder????????????

I used to wonder why some ignorant people choose to intentionally blind themselves with religious faith, eschew reason and then pretend that they are "smarter" than amoebas like fundie xtians do.


“Recalling some of the most spectacular horrors of history -- the burning of heretics and witches at the stake, the wholesale massacre of "heathens," and other no less repulsive manifestations of xtian "civilization" in Europe and elsewhere -- modern man is filled with pride in the 'progress' accomplished, in one line at least, since the end of the dark ages of religious fanaticism.”
-- Savitri Devi
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: ashleyxatrocity on August 09, 2012, 01:06:41 pm
I believe that a person's body is their own. That is their shell to live out their life. If they don't like the shell they live in, they can change it to accommodate their desires. The only thing I must encourage is that no matter how you choose to alter your vessel, do so SAFELY. Sex changes, tattoos, plastic surgery, etc. should ALL be done by professionals with experience. 
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: ptfunds on August 09, 2012, 01:57:59 pm
I support anyone who goes through the long and painful process of making this change both psychologically and physically. I can't even imagine how hard it would be to feel trapped in your own body.  There is a tremendous amount of psychological "work" that comes with this process of change. Anyone who is willing to go through the requirements for each step of the transition has my respect.  It's not an easy process and dealing with our judgmental society makes it the process even harder.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: healthfreedom on August 10, 2012, 01:43:57 pm
A person definitely should have the right to change their appearance or their bodies as they choose. However, they cannot EVER change who they are, or what they were born as: male or female.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: mardukblood2009 on August 14, 2012, 05:00:27 pm
My question is when did they start doing this.  :dontknow:
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: falcon9 on August 14, 2012, 05:09:09 pm
A person definitely should have the right to change their appearance or their bodies as they choose. However, they cannot EVER change who they are, or what they were born as: male or female.

So, let's say a person was physically born as a hermaphrodite but, not psychologically as neither, they don't get to 'pick a lane and drive in it' either?
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: tortiz1 on August 15, 2012, 12:01:42 pm
Having a sex change in my opinion is disgusting.  This world is becoming more and more corrupted for no damn reason.  Just because everyone wants to be different?  Well hello, we all are different! no one is exactly like anyone else.  I mean not even identical twins have the same finger prints.  How much more different do people want to be?  Everyone wants to be accepted while still standing out!!  this world is filled with oximorons and yet everyone has to go along with it or theres a problem.  Well then, i guess theres nothing but problems because in my opinion people are becoming more sick in the head with every passing year.. :BangHead:morons!!
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: shepherdchik on August 16, 2012, 04:46:14 pm
I don't know about natural. I can't tell anyone else what is right or wrong or what to do with their bodies. Most people that have a sex change go through extensive therapy to help them cope and decide why they want to do it and I think that is good. when you hear stories about that these people say that something always felt off about them, they were never comfortable in their own skin so if that's what they decide then I'm happy for them
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: vp44 on August 28, 2012, 04:06:14 pm
Dont worry be happy! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: 2getherwewin on August 29, 2012, 10:43:38 pm
SEX CHANGE I THINK  THAT IS DEAD WRONG I BE-LEAVE THAT GOD DOSE  NOT MAKE MISTAKE  SO THAT WHAT I THINK  ABOUT THAT
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: falcon9 on August 29, 2012, 10:55:57 pm
SEX CHANGE I THINK  THAT IS DEAD WRONG I BE-LEAVE THAT GOD DOSE  NOT MAKE MISTAKE  SO THAT WHAT I THINK  ABOUT THAT
(http://i50.tinypic.com/do7885.jpg)
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: tinajacksonville on August 30, 2012, 09:45:12 am
I believe we all should be happy with who we are and not change our sex. God made us the sex we are for a reason.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: angsilva2000 on August 30, 2012, 11:57:47 am
I feel its up to the person
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: AXELUnholy on August 30, 2012, 09:01:02 pm
I feel that it's pointless, because whatever you're born as is what you're meant to be. No amount of surgery is going to change your DNA. You can get fake *bleep* and fake genetalia, but you're going to be a man or woman(depending on which you were born as), no matter what. So they're wasting their money on cosmetic things that in the end, aren't going to matter once they're dead.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: elandry on August 30, 2012, 09:22:56 pm
I believe that if someone genuinely feels wrong in their body, or their are physiological/genetic reasons for the change, then fine-- I have no issue with it.

A question for all-- the obvious aftermath-- say the new Jane Doe falls on love--- how in the world would you tell your love interest-- or would you? It would be difficult to hide in a male to female switch, because the new female has to use a prosthetic sleeve inside the artificial birth canal regularly, so it remains open... Then there's finding properly fitting shows, because the surgery options do include shaving wrist bones and adam's apples, but now feet, as I understand it...

I wouldn't really sweat the surgery, just the aftermath! And what if you have had children, as some transgender adults have???

Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: Andrew09 on November 12, 2012, 01:34:01 am
I feel that it's pointless, because whatever you're born as is what you're meant to be. No amount of surgery is going to change your DNA. You can get fake *bleep* and fake genetalia, but you're going to be a man or woman(depending on which you were born as), no matter what. So they're wasting their money on cosmetic things that in the end, aren't going to matter once they're dead.

You took the words out of my mouth.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: falcon9 on November 12, 2012, 01:50:44 am
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You took the words out of my mouth.

Doubtless that's because blind religious superstitions took the rational thoughts out of your head, (especially when replying to a three month old post).
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: Andrew09 on November 12, 2012, 02:28:49 am
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You took the words out of my mouth.

Doubtless that's because blind religious superstitions took the rational thoughts out of your head, (especially when replying to a three month old post).

OMG! WHY THE F*CK ARE YOU SO F*CKING ANNOYING! THIS  HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH 'RELIGIOUS'! YOU ALWAYS COMMENT ON MY POSTS WITH SOME DUMB  AS$ COMMENT!  >:( :BangHead: ALL YOU DO ON HERE IS ANNOY THE PEOPLE, AND THINK EVERYTHING HAS TO DO WITH RELIGION! YOU LONLEY OLD MAN!  YOU THINK I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS REPLYING TO A 3 MONTH OLD POST?  :bs: :BangHead: :BangHead: :BangHead:
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: falcon9 on November 12, 2012, 02:41:12 am
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OMG! WHY THE F*CK ARE YOU SO F*CKING ANNOYING!YOU LONLEY OLD MAN!

Your previous posts indicated your closed-minded religious position.  Your current post indicates the immaturity of a "teen", (as another of your posts admitted), which some would posit is inherently "annoying".  Putting an asterisk within a moderated word doesn't change the intent, nor does presumming my age or relationship status make such presumptions accurate, (unless anyone older than a "teen" is "old" - like a twenty year old).  The option to use FC's 'Ignore button' exists, even for a cognitively-impaired "teen", instead of immature outbursts.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: Andrew09 on November 12, 2012, 02:46:01 am
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OMG! WHY THE F*CK ARE YOU SO F*CKING ANNOYING!YOU LONLEY OLD MAN!

Your previous posts indicated your closed-minded religious position.  Your current post indicates the immaturity of a "teen", (as another of your posts admitted), which some would posit is inherently "annoying".  Putting an asterisk within a moderated word doesn't change the intent, nor does presumming my age or relationship status make such presumptions accurate, (unless anyone older than a "teen" is "old" - like a twenty year old).  The option to use FC's 'Ignore button' exists, even for a cognitively-impaired "teen", instead of immature outbursts.

GOODBYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! LIKE I SAID ' YOU MADE EVERYTHING ABOUT "RELIGION"!
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: batmobile on November 12, 2012, 09:24:29 am
 :female: :male:God  made u  the way he thought u should be... its weird and not natural...but hey if u got the money to do it, and it makes you happy...who am i to say anything? i dont judge...lol
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: falcon9 on November 12, 2012, 01:21:41 pm
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God  made u  the way he thought u should be...

There's no valid evidence to support such a religious claim therefore, it's an unstubstantiated superstitious opinion.

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its weird and not natural...who am i to say anything? i dont judge...

The opinion that "its weird and not natural..." is a judgement and contradicts the claim not to judge.
Title: Re: what do you think about sex change?
Post by: Pplaya123 on November 13, 2012, 03:22:16 pm
It is definitely not natural to have a sex change. I do think that it should be acceptable however because it will cause an individual to be happier with themselves. It is really weird to think about however. People just got to do what they got to do in order to be satisfied with life.
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Post by: lbryanwf on November 13, 2012, 03:57:11 pm
From a medical and physiological standpoint, sometimes nature makes mistakes. There are people born with mixed chromosomes ( both male and female.) Sometimes they will physically resemble one sex, but emotionally identify with the other sex. Parents are mixed up, the kid is mixed up from a young age. The parents may dress the child as a boy, when really the mixed chromosomes make him act and feel like a girl. This is a person who would deserve a sex change operation if desired.

There are some interesting pictures (graphic) of people who have sex change operations..you can barely tell. Interesting to look at.
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Post by: Boise40 on November 28, 2012, 07:08:24 pm
Well, its their body and they are free to do whatever with it. I'm just glad its not mine.
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Post by: workmama on November 29, 2012, 01:15:12 pm
Is it natural? Should someone have the right to do this? What are your thoughts.

No, its not natural!! It's sick in my opinion!!  :BangHead:
Yet again, I don't like to judge anyone. Everyone can choose to do what they want with their body. I just don't understand how someone could go through a change like that. Seems like it would take a ton of money and a huge strain of the person's emotional and physical stability. I couldn't go through something like that.
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Post by: carty1 on December 02, 2012, 08:04:53 pm
I believe you should be happy with who God made you.
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Post by: rocdragon4353 on December 06, 2012, 07:29:37 am
Great post, thanks

So some background for you all, scientifically there are 7 genders. There is NOT only male and female. Intersex is one of the genders however you don't hear about it in the news which is sad because then society forms a common knowledge based television instead of facts. Most people, and I do mean 60% or more are born intersex. What that means is there is more than one set of genitals within in the body during growth in the womb. When a baby is born it is the DOCTOR in most states that decides based on size charts whether the baby is a boy or girl. Because of this the public has no understanding of the 7 genders, a fear of transgender (which is another one) and create fear based political campaigns against innocent people.
In most states, like Tenessee doctors are not required to tell you if your baby is intersexed. They just snip or sow as they deem fit.

It is more common than most people realize and nothing to be crazy about.
~Ro
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Post by: mreed6 on December 07, 2012, 04:51:18 pm
well i think its crazy but if they want ot be an girl then have fun or an boy then havefun but be careful in the long run cause you will be stuck trying to figure out alot of things.
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Post by: Flackle on December 07, 2012, 06:13:26 pm
To those who say its unnatural:

You know what else is "unnatural"? Medicine, Vaccines, Operations, Organ donations, Flying machines, Toasters, Headache Medication, Hotdogs, and sunglasses. Just because something isn't natural doesn't mean its a bad thing. You know what is natural? Viruses, Dangerous animals, Radiation, Heat Strokes, Hurricanes, Tornadoes, Earthquakes, Volcanic eruptions. All of these things can be good or bad (many times both depending on the situation.) Whether something is unnatural or not has absolutely no bearing whatsoever whether or not its a "good" or "bad thing. Just because something isn't "natural" doesn't mean it should be shunned or looked down upon.

I would have though my fellow human beings where not so near sighted and bigoted as to have realized this. I obviously thought wrong.
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Post by: Flackle on December 07, 2012, 06:18:15 pm
Is it natural? Should someone have the right to do this? What are your thoughts.

No, its not natural!! It's sick in my opinion!!  :BangHead:
Yet again, I don't like to judge anyone. Everyone can choose to do what they want with their body. I just don't understand how someone could go through a change like that. Seems like it would take a ton of money and a huge strain of the person's emotional and physical stability. I couldn't go through something like that.


Are you suggesting that your first statement is not a judgmental statement? There's nothing wrong with judging others and forming opinions of others. Its natural and healthy and we do it all the time (as indicated by not only the post I make but by the post of others including yours.) As long as you respect the rights of others any guilt you may feel from judging is misguided and probably resulted from someone else's insecurities about being judged.
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Post by: kevint5 on December 07, 2012, 06:28:29 pm
I'm not one to judge but I would never do it but then again...Its a free country and folks should have the right to choose their own road.
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Post by: dwilson25 on December 09, 2012, 01:16:43 pm
God made us and we shouldnt change that
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Post by: rmendoza1 on December 28, 2012, 12:13:46 am
I think it's fine. If it makes that person happy then by all means go ahead. I wouldn't want someone to have to pretend that they don't care about it if they really do care.
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Post by: Flackle on December 28, 2012, 07:14:23 pm
God made us and we shouldnt change that

[sarcasm] This is exactly what I believe. We should not have developed vaccines that helped cure wide-spread viruses that where killing millions of people, all cancer patients should be left out to die, surgery should not be practiced, cosmetics should be banned, clothes should not be worn, and all man-made objects should be destroyed while we all live in caves because that's how god created us and anything god didn't create is ungodly and therefore evil.[/sarcasm]
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Post by: mardukblood2009 on January 12, 2013, 05:02:44 pm
If you think something is wrong with you, why not fix it. :thumbsup:
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Post by: penguinito on January 29, 2013, 08:16:31 pm
casual sex.
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Post by: msmoneybags48 on March 01, 2013, 02:50:03 pm
I don't think sex changes are for everyone.  If God had wanted women to act like men and men to act like women, He would have made you that way from day one.  Taking a boy, dressing him like a girl and expecting normalcy out of it is like setting that child up for trouble.  I had a daughter, but I treated her like a girl.  I have a niece who dresses like a boy because she weht through problems when she was growing up.  I believe that society has changed the way people are supposed to treat people.  It is sad, really. :star: :heart: :icon_rr:
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Post by: monnee on March 01, 2013, 02:55:37 pm
This is America, the land of the Free, so it's the persons choice if they want to change or not.
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Post by: march1971 on March 02, 2013, 05:35:39 pm
Is it natural? Should someone have the right to do this? What are your thoughts.
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You should love yourself the way God made you. I read somewhere that there is a runner from somewhere that has both sexes. it was many years ago and I cannot recall the name.
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Post by: mardukblood2009 on March 02, 2013, 06:00:01 pm
If it makes your life better, go for it. :thumbsup:
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Post by: vdavid20 on March 02, 2013, 09:50:17 pm
I think it's a sin, cause there's no such thing in the bible.
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Post by: Flackle on March 02, 2013, 11:03:09 pm
I think it's a sin, cause there's no such thing in the bible.

The bible also doesn't have vaccines, so those must be a sin to use too right?
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Post by: ghunter on March 04, 2013, 06:26:21 am
I don't think it is right, but who am I to judge.  People will do what they want and will have to answer to their God because God do not make a mistake. (If you were born a girl you are a girl and the same for boys) God don't make mistakes.
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Post by: Flackle on March 04, 2013, 01:16:55 pm
I don't think it is right, but who am I to judge.  People will do what they want and will have to answer to their God because God do not make a mistake. (If you were born a girl you are a girl and the same for boys) God don't make mistakes.

Not really. Science has shown it IS possible for someone's brain to develop different from their body. If anything, this shows there cannot be a god. If such a god exist, and if such a god is perfect and doesn't make mistakes, why is there so much imperfection in the world? The answer is pretty clear. Imperfection exist because there isn't an all perfect god.

Evolution, on the other hand, makes mistakes. In fact, without this imperfection and without making mistakes, evolution wouldn't even exist. The law of natural selection main tenant is the fact that mistakes are made when it comes to figuring out the best process by which to solve a problem. This is apparent in any system.
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Post by: Clandestine1 on March 04, 2013, 06:35:19 pm
Is it natural? Should someone have the right to do this? What are your thoughts.

Obviously its not natural but I don't condone the people that choose to do it. But I believe that people have the right to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone. As for the people spewing stuff from the bible. No one is perfect, everyone sins. Think of that when you sit there judging people who are 'different' from you.
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Post by: 5Yari32 on March 04, 2013, 08:44:24 pm
I think people should not change anything sence God made us we should be happy for what He gave us.
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Post by: Flackle on March 05, 2013, 10:16:23 am
I think people should not change anything sence God made us we should be happy for what He gave us.

Again, this means that we should be happy that we get cancer as well. Are you suggesting that all attempts to find a cure for cancer should be ended because they are obviously not natural and therefore goes against god?
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Post by: DTorainWilliams on March 05, 2013, 01:10:38 pm
Hah what a coincidence as I was just posting sorta about this on your other topic.

I think it's fine. Of course they have a right to do whatever they want with their own bodies - this generally isn't a harmful practice, like suicide or eating disorders. That it's performed by surgeons makes me feel much better (as opposed to people who do at home alterations to their bodies).
Of course, not everyone goes "all the way" to surgical options. Some do just hormones and others just live as their proper gender regardless of their genitals. This is also fine. Everyone is different.

And what is natural? Clownfish change their gender (as do other fish, starfish, some lesser animals, a frog species...)


Off Topic - I think you should post these kind of topics in the sub-forum "Debate & Discuss (http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?board=9.0)" since this could potentially turn into a "divisive discussion".


It is to each their own as to what they chose to be their sexually orientation should not matter; the person is still a individual deserving to to best of whatever they chose to be.
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Post by: lovekat on March 05, 2013, 01:31:30 pm
My thing is we are not suppose to judge, but at the end of the day society is built on judging a persons looks, sexuality and assets.  I do not have a problem with that because as an individual we need to make self happy before we can love another.  If that is what a person chooses, then who am I to have a say so, and family wise I love them the same.