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do you think we should work for welfare or just recieve it
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I think for welfare, we should be tested for drugs, and have mandatory public services for 20 hours/w at least. Should a person test positive for drugs, he/she can't apply for an year, and if the services are less than 20 hours/week, benefits will be reduced. My 2 cents.
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You should work for wages, not welfare. Those of us that have jobs have our own families to support, we shouldn't have to pay such high taxes to support other people too that are too lazy to work for themselves. Welfare was started originally to help people temporarily over rough spots, but now there's multi-generations of leeches sucking the hard-earned wages from people who do work.
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I would think one would be willing to work for wages instead of being on welfare. I do think that you should work for every penny you get on welfare. Being in the times we have now many people have to resort to welfare as a means of putting food on the table for they family. There is alot of people on welfare who husbands make alot of money and they abuse the system in many ways. I have seen this in stores when a person pull out they benefit card and then put all that food in a mercedes benz or other expensive cars. We also give to illegals who are not even citizens so alot of spending there which shouldnt be. There to many single women working for a living and taking care of children all alone who need help. I dont downgrade anyone for getting public aide, I only feel disgust for those who abuse the system and cause many tax payers money. What people really dont realize is that most of people on welfare are either the ones who need it , the ones who abuse it and the ones who shouldnt even get it if your not a citizen. Those are my thoughts.
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I've not been in a situation where I would have to use Welfare and hopefully never. There are people who genuinely need the service, but more often than not I hear about people who truly abuse the system and I hate parasites. People should put an effort to still work and leech the system.
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Where I live you have to work a certain number of hours per week or you don't get any money. You also have to sign a Welware to Work plan where you make a plan on how you are going to be self-sufficient. But that's just for the cash aid. Cash aid has a time limit of 5 years. For food stamps you just have to make under the income limit and you will be eligible. I don't think there's a time limit on that though. It would be great if there was a drug test though.
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You should not have to work in order to get welfare benefits. If you need assistance until you get on your feet, then you need assistance. As long as you are not using the system.
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work for it. Nothing in life is free. We only apprecitate the things we work for in one way or another. This is just my opinion. :wave:
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there are enough jobs in the US for everyone to have..people just are not willing to work for certain wages..if we did not have welfare, I would bet that more people would accept any wage instead of going hungry.
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there are enough jobs in the US for everyone to have..people just are not willing to work for certain wages..if we did not have welfare, I would bet that more people would accept any wage instead of going hungry.
WOW what US you live in with so many out of work and so many illegalls holding American jobs that American can do but not for cheap labor.
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Work for it! Where would our country be if everything was handed to them! I think people should have to work for the welfare and the welfare dept. should help to make sure they can find work! ::)
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Very good question, and one that's definitely coming up frequently this time of year - I do think there should be some time of "work" requirement for welfare - I don't think it should necessarily be a "job," but perhaps some time volunteering or other type of service work. Nothing is free, and yet, I don't lack compassion either. Thing is, sometimes people do get dependent and lose motivation, skills, resources, etc. if they're on welfare. Another thing too - getting involved in community allows opportunity to network, meet other people, etc., which are as important keys in getting jobs as applying through the process, etc....something that often gets overlooked in the welfare debate
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Welfare should not be permanent. Generations of families should not be on welfare. Welfare should be temporary and if you are on it you should be actively trying to do things that will improve your situation not get complacent expecting handouts forever.
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Something, maybe. I don't know cause I haven't been in the situation that I need it, however, I have family that kinda abuse it so I'd prefer people who actually need it to get it instead of just anyone for whatever reason.
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I am so sorry people don't understand the system. If you are ablebodied you work. It is mandtory that you have a wage paying job of atleast 30 hrs a week. Benefits are adjusted accordingly. Since it is a regular job that the (tax payers) would have, you are also subject to all the drug testing and things that ( a normal) wage earner would go through. Plus since your family receives benefits, your children had better not miss school for any reason (Just incase the social worker feels that they didn't need to, even if they went to the doctor.) Your sixteen year old needs to have a job, and not miss work. Because if they miss school or work and the case worker doesn't agree with the reason. The family is sanctioned for a period of time. Could be just a few months or longer. Oh by the way, that working family, that also receives benefits, also pays taxes. Another thing you might want to concider, is that the people now becoming eligeble for benefits are our senior citizens, they have reached their retirement and still need assistance because the meds they take cost to much and is sucking up their social security. Esp, in the time that they fall into that donut whole and the insurance won't cover them.
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I agree that people should work for their money, but I also agree that welfare should be available to those who need it. And I don't believe that there are jobs anywhere anymore and I am sorry but I cant accept 7.25 an hour when that wouldn't even cover the cost of the gas in my car to get to work. I have been out of work since April. I moved to be with my husband and now we live off his VA check and we get food stamps. If it weren't for those food stamps we would go hungry, and we only get 50 bucks a month from them. But every little bit helps. I am excited that I do have an interview tomorrow for what could be the best job ever! But when you live 20 miles from the nearest little town and 40 miles from a city, 7.25/hr wont cut it to get me to and from work. So I think that yes people should work for their money but I still think people who need assistance, like me and my husband, should be able to get it. :wave:
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I believe Welfare was originally set up to be very helpful for people/families that were truly in need. However, just like everything else it has gotten abused and people are taking way to much advantage of it and unfortunately there are guidelines that have to be followed but everybody just knows ways around those guidelines. I believe that changes are coming for the welfare program because the states are not going to be able to continue to pay out the millions that go into that program. I think rules should be stricter, and yes....if you need welfare you shouldn't be able to be buying drugs..so its the dual edge cause the drug testing will cost the states more, and what will be the true punishment for it? My thought are is it going to cost more for a temporary "punishment" or will it be a permenant 1 time offense you won't receive them ever??
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It should only be enough to get you back on your feet. There should be a limit of time and I also agree to drug testing. I also feel if they can afford tatoos, cigarettes or alcohol they dont need welfare. Why should we have to pay for their habits.
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I believe welfare should be reserved for only those who are completely incapable of holding down a job. What disgusts me the most is something that a patient once told the doctor I worked for when he asked what she did for a living - "I have babies for the government."
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You don't work FOR welfare, you work FOR wages (as many people before me have stared)
Welfare should be a supplementary income, to help those that cannot afford to live on their wages alone.
Unfortunately, there is a good amount of people that abuse the system to get all the welfare money that they can without working any more.
Not everyone is like that, and a lot of people really do need the added assistance. That's fine, that's what it's there for.
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Work for it of course. Nothing in life is FREE.
I think the word 'entitlement' needs to be changed back to welfare.
'Entitlement' makes it sound like it is 'due' to you.
The only thing you are entitled to is your opinions and beliefs.
WAKE UP PEOPLE
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You should not have to work in order to get welfare benefits. If you need assistance until you get on your feet, then you need assistance. As long as you are not using the system.
The concept of "work for welfare" also includes actively making attempts to find employment. It's really not asking much to require someone to apply for a certain of amount of companies before they receive any benefits. If the view of being on welfare is temporary, this is something they would already be doing.
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I will say one thing, they need to recalculate who gets what because we were getting like $300 in food stamps...I needed it because of the debt payments I was making monthly, but if I didn't have debt I would have had enough money for groceries so they need to lower the amount of money, like we were making 2700 a month...they should be giving $300 to someone who's making more along the lines of 1700 a month or something, sheesh...and drug testing, yes yes yes!!!!
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do you think we should work for welfare or just recieve it
Quite an interesting question :icon_rr:
I'm tending to lean towards YES! Don't misunderstand me, yes there are individuals who whould say no but, if think about it.....How much better would the(your) City/State be? Let me put down what i'm thinking...... Working to receive not only benefitsbut, also a better place to live. There are roughly 30 million welfare receipient in the US if not more. Imagine the turn-around. More and more people would began to respect where they live, how they live and, how to live with one another. What a better world this would be!!!!!
Again, Very Interesting Question my Friend... :wave:
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Definitely work or go to school and make something of your life than living on taxpayers $$$$$.
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I think you should reseve it only if you need it until u get back on ur feet(i dont think people should if there sitting around not looking for a job- unless ur disabled thats differnt :thumbsup:
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i know it is tough for people with the economic situation such as it is. For this reason i understand some people have to be on welfare or unemployment. This is a small way to help people survive
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If you are able bodied, I think a person should work. But with the economy in the dumpster, where can they find jobs to help supplement the welfare they are receiving? I am sure people would rather work than get welfare.
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If you work then you get paid from your job and therefore wouldn't need welfare. I disagree with welfare altogether. Too many people are just drawing a check and refusing to work. It's not right to take money from the person who works and give it to a person who refuses to work. I also think ALL welfare receipents should be drug tested. If I have to be drug tested to work for the money they should have to be drug tested to receive it. JMO. :thumbsup:
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I agree 100% that drug testing should be in place for those receiving welfare. As far as "mooching of the system" there are plenty that do so...however there are plenty of others that do work and receive assistance. Whether it be through cash or food assistance. There are unforeseen circumstances that force people to get some help.
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some of my kind people lost great jobs when the economy hit hard like it did and some are now working at fast food restaurants to make ends meet and they qualify for welfare and they keep the jobs, welfare is not just for lazy people. people that have worked their whole lives lost their jobs due to the economy and work for minimum wage now qualify to work and get welfare. I have an uncle who was making 70,000 a year lost his job now makes at 10,000 a year with 3kids his rent is 500 a month water bill 80 a month light bill almost 350 a month and car insurance 118 a month and lets not talk about the gas to drive your car to work and doctor appts, he can use the foodstamps to help with groceries. I tell you people could make it in this world if groceries, light bill and gas was not so high or make min wage at least 15.00 an hour so people can live a little.
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I think for welfare, we should be tested for drugs, and have mandatory public services for 20 hours/w at least. Should a person test positive for drugs, he/she can't apply for an year, and if the services are less than 20 hours/week, benefits will be reduced. My 2 cents.
They tried that in Florida and only 2% tested postive for drugs, so now the state gets to repay the 98% who tested clean back the money they had to pay for the test.
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I think it depends on the individuals situation, if it is a child issue, 1...is there a way the parent can work 2...can they help with the child care while the parent works....what is being abused is women receiving welfare for their kids, and the father or husband lives with them without the state knowing..I am witnessing a girl now that receives tons of state aid, over 500 in food stamps, and everytime they help with utilities she knows when to sign up, her dead beat boyfriend lives with her.