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:wave:Good morning fushion cash friends . I have a question what are your thoughts on current president . I think that he was God sent. Express your feelings and let me know what you think.
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I THINK THIS PRESIDENT IS GOING TO BE THE ULTIMATE DOWNFALL OF WHAT WE LIKE TO CALL THE UNITED STATES!!!!!!!!
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I THINK THIS PRESIDENT IS GOING TO BE THE ULTIMATE DOWNFALL OF WHAT WE LIKE TO CALL THE UNITED STATES!!!!!!!!
Ditto! He will also go down in History known as THE PRESIDENT WHO HAS JIMMY CARTER BEAT AS THE "WORST PRESIDENT."
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I THINK THIS PRESIDENT IS GOING TO BE THE ULTIMATE DOWNFALL OF WHAT WE LIKE TO CALL THE UNITED STATES!!!!!!!!
Ditto! He will also go down in History known as THE PRESIDENT WHO HAS JIMMY CARTER BEAT AS THE "WORST PRESIDENT."
What did he do do deserve this moniker?
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Worst president ever.
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Worst president ever.
How come?
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Worst president ever.
How come?
Asking this bunch for logical arguments and reasons is an exercise in futility frankly.
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Worst president ever.
How come?
Asking this bunch for logical arguments and reasons is an exercise in futility frankly.
Because every single person who disagrees with what the president is doing is a illogical uneducated inbred redneck hack, right? Don't label everyone the same simply because some can't intellectually function. Just because some doesn't bow their head to every will our god president doesn't mean they cannot form basic logical arguments.
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Hmm...if I were to grade him, I'd give him a C thus far. Considering the mess he was handed, he has done a semi-decent job. He has attempted to stabilize the economy by adding stricter rules on banks, he has passed a much-needed healthcare reform despite all barrier-inducing flak he got for it, he stands for gay rights and passed benefits for same-sex federal employees, etc.
However he has not ended the war, he passed that whole drone thing, the health care reform has a lot of inconsistencies in it, he's weak with adding stricter rules for welfare, and the national debt keeps climbing dramatically. Definitely not the best president, but it's a step up from our previous.
And no- he's not taking away your guns, people.
Because every single person who disagrees with what the president is doing is a illogical uneducated inbred redneck hack, right? Don't label everyone the same simply because some can't intellectually function. Just because some doesn't bow their head to every will our god president doesn't mean they cannot form basic logical arguments.
Nobody has responded to his question though.
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I personally do not think he has been a great one. But if you are gonna throw "Worst Ever" at him you must come with some reasons. "Fox news told me" or "he is a Moo-slum" is fine, just admit it.
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I voted for President Obama and I think he is so much better than that crook Romine. I think he is hoenstly trying to do a good job! :)
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Well, OK, since you asked -
1. He's throwing our tax dollars and weapons at countries who are sworn enemies of the United States. ISLAMIC countries that want nothing more than to blow us all to smithereens. This amounts to TREASON;
2. He's INCREASED the U.S. debt by TRILLIONS of dollars; can't help himself but to SPEND EVEN MORE;
3. He takes ZERO RESPONSIBILITY for his actions and just blames EVERYTHING on CONGRESS or BUSH. (Seriously? He's been the alleged President for over 4 years now, where the hell is the budget????);
4. He keeps PUSHING "GUN CONTROL" and "IMMIGRATION REFORM." In case any of you haven't noticed the 2nd AMENDMENT IS our GUN PERMIT. As far as IMMIGRATION REFORM goes, what exactly needs to be "reformed?" We already have immigration laws, why doesn't the dolt just ENFORCE them? Why? I'll tell you why - because he wants to KEEP our borders WIDE OPEN like a *bleep*'s legs and invite ANY TOM, *bleep* OR HARRY to "COME ON DOWN!" There isn't a country in the WORLD that doesn't have SECURE BORDERS and IMMIGRATION LAWS. Did you know that Mexico has the WORLD'S STRICTEST IMMIGRATION LAWS? Go look it up! ILLEGAL ALIENS are NOT IMMIGRANTS. IMMIGRANTS come through the FRONT DOOR, ILLEGALS SLITHER THROUGH UNDETECTED. What country in the world do you know that AWARDS their ILLEGAL ALIENS with a PATH TO CITIZENSHIP? "ILLEGAL" means YOU BROKE THE LAW! If you really want to become a CITIZEN, GO HOME, COME THROUGH THE LEGAL CHANNELS, LEARN ABOUT OUR COUNTRY, CONSTITUTION, WAY OF LIFE, AND LEARN TO SPEAK ENGLISH;
5. He BYPASSES CONGRESS EVERY CHANCE HE GETS. With the swish of his automatic pen, if he doesn't LIKE what Congress has to say it's "oh well, too bad, I'll sign an EXECUTIVE ORDER;"
6. He went in to LIBYA WITHOUT CONGRESSES APPROVAL. Gee, I thought this guy wanted PEACE IN THE WORLD. Are you KIDDING ME????;
7. He's making DRONE STRIKES all over the world and now intends to use those drones on Americans, too. Don't you think it's awful funny that he "cares" so much for your CHILDREN while he's out there KILLING OTHER CHILDREN WITH THOSE DRONES???;
8. ABORTION. I was never one to want to overturn Roe v. Wade, but MAN!, with THIS GUY? HELL YEAH, OVERTURN IT. He doesn't want "our kids" dying in school by the hands of someone as nutty as a jar of chunky peanut butter, yet he's PUSHING young, vulnerable, and MOSTLY MINORITY women to have ABORTIONS - and that INCLUDES LATE STAGE ABORTIONS. He's OK with the fact that if that aborted baby is still ALIVE AFTER it's ABORTED to just throw it in a plastic bag, suffocate it, and GET RID OF IT. He must ALSO be OK with the FACT that women who have LATE STAGE ABORTIONS are taking their own lives in their hands and DO DIE.. HORRIBLE DEATHS. So here we are! He'll USE your CHILDREN to push his UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS on the U.S., yet he could give a $h*t less about them;
9. The UN. He wants to give the UN MORE POWER over OUR COUNTRY. In my humble opinion, the UN needs to be thrown out of this country. We are a SOVEREIGN COUNTRY consisting of SOVEREIGN STATES. Go away, UN, you HAVE NO POWER HERE!;
10. The MILITARY. He's cutting back DRASTICALLY in our Military. He's getting rid of TOP GENERALS that "disagree" with his policies. Do you know that many Military people are barely surviving and are on WELFARE? Have you heard that he's shutting down missile defenses in the South? These defense systems PROTECT YOUR COUNTRY FROM FOREIGN INVASION. He's leaving us WIDE OPEN to ATTACK;
11. FAST AND FURIOUS, LIBYA, THE ATTACK ON OUR CONSULATE AND THE DEATHS OF ALL OF THESE AMERICANS AND MEXICAN CITIZENS IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. REDACTED DOCUMENTS, BLAME ON VIDEOS. If the DEATHS of all of these HUMAN BEINGS are OK with YOU, I don't know HOW you sleep nights.
12. HIS RECORDS. Why has he spent nearly $2 MILLION of YOUR TAX DOLLARS to HIDE his records? WHY did he think it was necessary to throw out 2 DIFFERENT BIRTH CERTIFICATES if he's REALLY a "Natural Born Citizen?" It's been proven that those long form birth certificates have been FORGED, CUT and PASTED all together from NUMEROUS documents to make it appear as ONE document. I don't know about YOU, but if you were born around the time HE was born or EARLIER than that, your long form birth certificate is a BLACK AND WHITE COPY coming from a microfiche document. Surely, like MOST AMERICANS, he's got that Long Form Birth Certificate tucked away somewhere for safe keeping? He's got MORE SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS than a RING OF FORGERS can come up with. His DRAFT CARD is a FORGERY - proven fact! His alleged "father" was NEVER A CITIZEN OF THE U.S. The very meaning of "Natural Born Citizen" is "Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of PARENTS NOT OWING ALLEGIANCE TO ANY FOREIGN SOVEREIGNTY is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN." This means, point blank, that your PARENTS (BOTH OF THEM) WERE BORN IN THE U.S. - OR - WERE "NATURALIZED" B-E-F-O-R-E THE CHILD WAS BORN. Obama's alleged father was NEVER "naturalized" NOR WAS HE BORN IN THE U.S.
Now, is anybody AWAKE yet?
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The last comment is fine. Well though out reasons. But you are in the minority. Most people just say Obama bad- Limbaugh good.
However, your point #8 is not factually accurate and #12 makes you sound like a crazy person.
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There is NOTHING WRONG with our president. I just think everyone's personal wants and needs get in the way of how people see him, and the fact that not one republican will ever agree with a democratic president. There will always be two sides, people in America are to ignorant to come together and agree about anything. Someone will always find a reason to gripe.
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I THINK THIS PRESIDENT IS GOING TO BE THE ULTIMATE DOWNFALL OF WHAT WE LIKE TO CALL THE UNITED STATES!!!!!!!!
If only more people felt that way before the election, we might have had a chance to get out of the hole and his debt policies! Prices at the pump are back to what they were before he was elected and the grocery store is so depressing. Really, $1.57 for can of beans is outrageous! Milk is definitely rationed at my house. Don't get me started on Healthcare!
BMaston12
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I THINK THIS PRESIDENT IS GOING TO BE THE ULTIMATE DOWNFALL OF WHAT WE LIKE TO CALL THE UNITED STATES!!!!!!!!
If only more people felt that way before the election, we might have had a chance to get out of the hole and his debt policies! Prices at the pump are back to what they were before he was elected and the grocery store is so depressing. Really, $1.57 for can of beans is outrageous! Milk is definitely rationed at my house. Don't get me started on Healthcare!
BMaston12
Man, I didn't know the President sets the prices for food and gas. He should just lower them, right? That would make sense.
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BlackSheepNY articulated a lot of the problems well. He has expanded the power of the executive branch in some really unhelpful ways - some of the very things he criticized Bush for attempting to do during his presidency, Obama has done and then gone well beyond. If the political party you like is in power now, you will not like the precedent that Obama has set when the other party is in power.
His Keynesian (short term fixes and stimulus) economic policies are really hurting the US economy and have added loads to the national debt.
With the new rules about what insurance companies must cover (i.e. contraception) and employers must provide their employees with this insurance, Freedom of Conscience, something that the founders of this country held dear, has been effectively squashed under the Affordable Care Act and its permutations.
I was honestly a little shocked that he was re-elected. It was a good thing he didn't have to beat a good candidate. For his many problems, I do have to hand it to him - he is an excellent campaigner.
I don't know if history will remember him on the same level as Jimmy Carter, but I agree that it probably should. I was not a fan of George W. Bush either and I would not be surprised if they are remembered in a similar way in terms of the quality of the job they did in office.
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Jimmy carter was the only President in the last 60 years where NOT ONE shot was fired. What a terrible prez.
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This is god world, the only way things that can happen with our country is to let people open up their heart and pray for our country. :heart:
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I AM WITH YOU ON THIS BLACKSHEEPNY. I don't know if Romney would have been much beeter then this on. but i do think he would have been trying for more private business and jobs being provided. The federal gov. is sucking us dry. It needs to be downsized and start paying their share. Obama and his momma think they have a blank check to play with. Oh well guess i will get in trouble with this .
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I AM WITH YOU ON THIS BLACKSHEEPNY. I don't know if Romney would have been much beeter then this on. but i do think he would have been trying for more private business and jobs being provided. The federal gov. is sucking us dry. It needs to be downsized and start paying their share. Obama and his momma think they have a blank check to play with. Oh well guess i will get in trouble with this .
None of that makes sense. It's just empty rhetoric.
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I think the President doing good.Anyway nobody is perfect, so we can`t expect the perfect leader in our country.
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I think he is just as much of a loser as the rest of the people in government but he talks with a nonloser voice which is really scary for all the gullibles. :angry7:
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Worst president ever.
How come?
Asking this bunch for logical arguments and reasons is an exercise in futility frankly.
Because every single person who disagrees with what the president is doing is a illogical uneducated inbred redneck hack, right? Don't label everyone the same simply because some can't intellectually function. Just because some doesn't bow their head to every will our god president doesn't mean they cannot form basic logical arguments.
Actually, what I meant before you incorrectly speculated as to what I meant is simply that a lot, though not all of the people here, love to make these sweeping pronouncements without any sort of logical argument or supporting evidence to back it up. They may or may not be "illogical uneducated inbred redneck hack"(s) as you stated. They may just be posting BS enough times to get their forum bonus and not responding to a simple question. It happens.
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I don't care for many of his policies and ways he handles things. I don't trust him to be honest with the people. I have a major concern with the Benghazi incident, in that he and his administration have been too silent about it, refusing to be accountable for their actions. During his State of the Union Address, he didn't even mention the 4 men killed or honor their memory, nor did he invite the families to his Address.
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12. HIS RECORDS. Why has he spent nearly $2 MILLION of YOUR TAX DOLLARS to HIDE his records? WHY did he think it was necessary to throw out 2 DIFFERENT BIRTH CERTIFICATES if he's REALLY a "Natural Born Citizen?"
This is all I really needed to skim to know you haven't checked your facts very well. Obama has actually gotten an illogical amount of scrutiny from this even though it's fairly obvious he hasn't hidden anything. The documents were always there-
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp
With the new rules about what insurance companies must cover (i.e. contraception) and employers must provide their employees with this insurance, Freedom of Conscience, something that the founders of this country held dear, has been effectively squashed under the Affordable Care Act and its permutations.
What's wrong with covering contraception? You do know women use it to avoid major health issues, right? Such things should be covered. Something needed to be done about healthcare in this country as it's terribly run. Though I do think laws should vary state-to-state. That is a major problem I have with it since he wants the feds to run it.
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I voted for President Obama and I think he is so much better than that crook Romine. I think he is hoenstly trying to do a good job! :)
I agree Romney was Gov in my state he did nothing except create his own healthcare act he was for the rich not middle
class. I had to vote for Obama again
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I just think he doesn't know how to fix the economy and unemployment problem. I mean, how do you create jobs when this country doesn't even make anything anymore? You have a whole section of the country who've worked manufacturing and now it's cheaper to do it overseas. Why make it here when you can do it somewhere else, pay people half the money, and you are not as heavily regulated? So the only way to prop up the economy is to give money to these people thereby increasing the national debt. I think bringing home our troops and having them defend us here is the better way to go. We need to stop policing the globe because it's getting us into a whole lot of trouble financially. We need to stop aiding every country that has a natural disaster. I know that's cruel but if you don't have the money, you don't have the money.
The government wouldn't last if it had to budget the way I have to by living within my means. That's a whole different rant.
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President Obama has ideas that are so different from what is the normal way of doing things in this country's past. I do not agree with his ideas and did not vote for him.
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President Obama has ideas that are so different from what is the normal way of doing things in this country's past. I do not agree with his ideas and did not vote for him.
Which ideas didn't you like?
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This is why I do not like politics. We just start to disagree on everything. No matter who goes up there we will always find something wrong with that person. I suggest that we all stop doing this and try to enjoy our little lives. They are all paid to make us fight but we are not, so why work for free if it does not do any good anyways? :wave: :heart: :dontknow: