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Title: Economy in trouble?
Post by: hensleyll on June 30, 2013, 07:15:46 pm
Here is a thought take the paid vacations from top ranking gorvenment officials,5 million to go to hawaii,can you guess who is this?
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: khough1 on June 30, 2013, 07:26:39 pm
There is alot more to the economy... Then what you see. If you can see past the drama.  :wave:
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: hensleyll on June 30, 2013, 08:22:29 pm
I know and do understand but the extensive pampering and spending is most obvious you have to admit!
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Post by: batmobile on June 30, 2013, 10:34:20 pm
our economy won't get any better look at whats going on :angry7:
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Post by: hensleyll on July 01, 2013, 12:08:08 pm
maybe not but it wouldnt hurt to keep the money for more needed programs
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Post by: hawkeye3210 on July 01, 2013, 04:48:11 pm
It really has nothing to do with the economy.
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: weased on July 02, 2013, 01:24:54 pm
There is alot more to the economy... Then what you see. If you can see past the drama.  :wave:
not being a disagreeable type of person and not wanting to be dramatic but this is fact: The dollar will no longer be the template that all other currencies soon. I`m an economist and my prediction has it failing around April of 2014. There are those that say it will fail by the end of this year but my real time calculations are probably more accurate, nevertheless it is inevitable. If the facts are dramatic and so be it
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: hawkeye3210 on July 03, 2013, 05:07:04 pm
There is alot more to the economy... Then what you see. If you can see past the drama.  :wave:
not being a disagreeable type of person and not wanting to be dramatic but this is fact: The dollar will no longer be the template that all other currencies soon. I`m an economist and my prediction has it failing around April of 2014. There are those that say it will fail by the end of this year but my real time calculations are probably more accurate, nevertheless it is inevitable. If the facts are dramatic and so be it

You do realize that you didn't actually present any facts, right?
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: dmitchn1 on July 03, 2013, 05:40:22 pm
hahaha all i know is i don't even make enough money to live and that depresses me  :crybaby2:
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: weased on July 03, 2013, 06:01:57 pm
There is alot more to the economy... Then what you see. If you can see past the drama.  :wave:
not being a disagreeable type of person and not wanting to be dramatic but this is fact: The dollar will no longer be the template that all other currencies soon. I`m an economist and my prediction has it failing around April of 2014. There are those that say it will fail by the end of this year but my real time calculations are probably more accurate, nevertheless it is inevitable. If the facts are dramatic and so be it

You do realize that you didn't actually present any facts, right?
Well one fact is the answer to the qustion that most 5th graders ask when they are introduced to US gonernment  and the economy, "why not just print more money". We have a standing order to print new dollars to pay the intereset on the national debt. This is unsustainable at the rate of 86 billion bucks a week, the dollar thus loses it`s value and other countries start a high tail bolt away from the dollar and the value can possibly lose half it`s value in a 2 month period, not to mention the way the debt payback is written up. This is easily looked up with a little bit of research, if you`re willing. There are plenty of doomsday links that will have one believe that the inevitable is a mass panic and martial law be imposed. This probably a bit exreme, however with the current world economic climate, some of these scenarios could actually happen, I don`t neccesarily believe this, but the like I said the possibility is more likely than most believe. Now that`s just one fact with a lot of personal opinion attached, sorry
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: stretch1967 on July 03, 2013, 06:18:49 pm
We have been in trouble since obama took office. i didnt vote for him or mccain. They both lied. I know that everyone yelled at me for wasting my vote. I did what I felt was right. Everyone is entitled to their own  opinion.  Which everyone better give give it before that is taken away. We have already noticed due to the obama care thing that companies are going out. Alot of them are not giving more than 20 hours a week so they dont have to pay for health insurance. Noone actually sat down and read the bill. The elderly were having a hard enough time paying for their insurance. They have been screwed even more. Our veterans that have fought for our freedom and rights are being screwed. If it werent for all of them we wouldnt have them.  As far as the gun thing goes they are taking our rights away and giving them to the criminals. We have to protect ourselves. A lady at walmarts little girl was taking away. She had no way to protect herself or her daughter.  Just so everyone knows I do not have a gun. Whether i will get one or not depends on the economy. We are headed towards what russia had and now egypt. We need our country back. The constitution was supposed to protect us. Obama has not done anything but screw us all and yet we still have them people backing him.  Between him and his wife taking those expensive vacations at our expense come on now. There is a whole lot more than every one knows. Yeah sure the media tends to add a lot of hype the information is out there. He has a home in Hawaii ten million dollars at that. He gave himself a raise. We cant do that.
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: dmitchn1 on July 03, 2013, 06:30:04 pm
Why do so many people back up obama anyways??? He's proven to be a crappy president... EVERYONE says it and posts about it on social networking sites... but he was voted right back into office for 4 more years!...Who are these people that support him???  ???
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Post by: heypeg on July 03, 2013, 06:38:39 pm
I am really concerned about our economy right now. I can't believe the money that is wasted.
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Post by: hawkeye3210 on July 04, 2013, 08:57:19 am
There is alot more to the economy... Then what you see. If you can see past the drama.  :wave:
not being a disagreeable type of person and not wanting to be dramatic but this is fact: The dollar will no longer be the template that all other currencies soon. I`m an economist and my prediction has it failing around April of 2014. There are those that say it will fail by the end of this year but my real time calculations are probably more accurate, nevertheless it is inevitable. If the facts are dramatic and so be it

You do realize that you didn't actually present any facts, right?
Well one fact is the answer to the qustion that most 5th graders ask when they are introduced to US gonernment  and the economy, "why not just print more money". We have a standing order to print new dollars to pay the intereset on the national debt. This is unsustainable at the rate of 86 billion bucks a week, the dollar thus loses it`s value and other countries start a high tail bolt away from the dollar and the value can possibly lose half it`s value in a 2 month period, not to mention the way the debt payback is written up. This is easily looked up with a little bit of research, if you`re willing. There are plenty of doomsday links that will have one believe that the inevitable is a mass panic and martial law be imposed. This probably a bit exreme, however with the current world economic climate, some of these scenarios could actually happen, I don`t neccesarily believe this, but the like I said the possibility is more likely than most believe. Now that`s just one fact with a lot of personal opinion attached, sorry

No need to apologize, but you're clearly not an economist of any sort. Possibly took an economics class in college, but that's it. In reality, the US Government paid interest of $212 billion in total for 2012, nowhere near the $86 billion a week that you claim. Their also not printing money to pay interest, as the US Government takes in revenues over 10 times more than the interest it pays. Besides that, the reasons for things being denominated in the US $ are more political rather than simply its relative value to other currencies. It's always a possibility, but certainly not a fact.
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: bowrunner on July 04, 2013, 10:08:25 am
The government is clearly spending way more than it is taking in or could ever take in even if it took all of everybody's money.  I find $60,000,000 to be obscene being spent for an African vacation.
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: weased on July 04, 2013, 06:42:35 pm
Why do so many people back up obama anyways??? He's proven to be a crappy president... EVERYONE says it and posts about it on social networking sites... but he was voted right back into office for 4 more years!...Who are these people that support him???  ???
what you actually have is a rigged electorial process. Believe or not many are being prosecuted for voting numerous times and there are prosecution actions wanting to expose those that found a way to0 vote with deceased persons identities (nearly impossible to prosecute unless caught in the act). even though the GOP puts up some opposition, the trouble is that most of the career politicians in both major parties are all corrupt.The only reason Obama`s true identity is not being investigated and his impeachable acts are not being investigated is because of the immoral and almost unlawful way our debt has been paid off for years before this  current president and is bringing the US economy to ruins by both parties. These legislators are truly expecting an economic situation that will create so much panic and hysteria in the populace that a possible martial law state could be instituted. To expose all that has been going on for the last 25 years will incriminate most of the House and the Senate. There are those that think when Obama is gone, another attorney general can be appointed who will possibly insist on an investigation of the current administration. This will probably not happen since our economy will collapse long before Obama serves out this term. Eric Holder is the only official that can start an investigation and prosecutorial process and he certainly is not going to do this to his buddy in office now. The support you see in these bogus polling numbers is all fake, however these polls do affect voters that believe them. It`s a slippery slope our country is on now and about all we can do is pray and be wise with our own decisions
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: ilovepatrick on July 07, 2013, 12:26:12 am
it is getting better just wish i had adjusted to it sooner :peace:
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: stretch1967 on July 07, 2013, 04:01:19 pm
Why do so many people back up obama anyways??? He's proven to be a crappy president... EVERYONE says it and posts about it on social networking sites... but he was voted right back into office for 4 more years!...Who are these people that support him???  ???

I agree I didnt vote for him either time. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: BMaston12 on July 07, 2013, 05:58:05 pm
Here is a thought take the paid vacations from top ranking gorvenment officials,5 million to go to hawaii,can you guess who is this?
I am trying to follow what you are saying, but even though I am not completely understanding your statement, I get the facts that the government is over=paid for the little that they do to help the people who pay their salaries. If we did spread around the excess and made things more equal, would it actually change te attitudes f the more priviledged? Food for thought!
BMaston12
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: hensleyll on July 12, 2013, 10:02:16 am
yes this is true
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: springsgardner on July 13, 2013, 04:36:16 pm
Why do so many people back up obama anyways??? He's proven to be a crappy president... EVERYONE says it and posts about it on social networking sites... but he was voted right back into office for 4 more years!...Who are these people that support him???  ???
what you actually have is a rigged electorial process. Believe or not many are being prosecuted for voting numerous times and there are prosecution actions wanting to expose those that found a way to0 vote with deceased persons identities (nearly impossible to prosecute unless caught in the act). even though the GOP puts up some opposition, the trouble is that most of the career politicians in both major parties are all corrupt.The only reason Obama`s true identity is not being investigated and his impeachable acts are not being investigated is because of the immoral and almost unlawful way our debt has been paid off for years before this  current president and is bringing the US economy to ruins by both parties. These legislators are truly expecting an economic situation that will create so much panic and hysteria in the populace that a possible martial law state could be instituted. To expose all that has been going on for the last 25 years will incriminate most of the House and the Senate. There are those that think when Obama is gone, another attorney general can be appointed who will possibly insist on an investigation of the current administration. This will probably not happen since our economy will collapse long before Obama serves out this term. Eric Holder is the only official that can start an investigation and prosecutorial process and he certainly is not going to do this to his buddy in office now. The support you see in these bogus polling numbers is all fake, however these polls do affect voters that believe them. It`s a slippery slope our country is on now and about all we can do is pray and be wise with our own decisions

I think you're right on a lot of counts, especially the part where both major parties have very corrupt politicians in the upper echelons. Not only are they not investigating because there could be something that creates panic, but I understand that  the Obama has covered up a lot with money. Money talks.
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: hensleyll on July 16, 2013, 08:58:42 am
i not sure about politics,seems everyone tells you what they want to hear
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Post by: monnee on July 16, 2013, 09:25:28 am
With millions of people still out of work, of course the economy is still in trouble.
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: weased on July 17, 2013, 09:25:56 am
There is alot more to the economy... Then what you see. If you can see past the drama.  :wave:
  I`ll agree there`s a lot more to the economy than what you see, but keep the drama when you realize that the current administration is doing everything in it`s power to destroy the dollar. Do your research
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: hensleyll on July 17, 2013, 11:12:15 am
wish it would get better
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Post by: tammypete on July 17, 2013, 11:25:58 am
Exactly!!!  If our government officials would cut back on their vacations, pay, etc. then I wouldn't have to go through 3 months of being furloughed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Losing $2400 is a big chunk from our budget!
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: ghunter on July 17, 2013, 12:22:11 pm
I think it is better, but in Trouble I don't know it is much better.
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: hensleyll on July 17, 2013, 12:23:00 pm
thats my point hit the little people harder let the government higher ups celebrate what way is this fair?
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Post by: hensleyll on July 17, 2013, 12:24:58 pm
trouble oh yes absolutely
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Post by: hensleyll on July 18, 2013, 09:09:22 am
well i did get a payraise in my direct mail job but then got  two days removed from my main job because of my boss furlow
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: vp44 on July 21, 2013, 11:47:47 pm
What is failed that no one person is controlling all GOV. Blame all POTUS not just one that is in office now because of your bigotry.  :icon_rr:
Title: Re: Economy in trouble?
Post by: hensleyll on July 22, 2013, 06:44:03 pm
Glad you think its my bigotry ,but you havent a clue you dont know me i make comment on what i read who are you?