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Title: Government shutdown
Post by: burlapunderwear on September 30, 2013, 09:27:41 pm
Well according to what I'm seeing on MSN's website, the government has shut down. I voted for the first time in the last election, and frankly I'm beginning to wonder why the heck I even bothered. I am ALL FOR affordable healthcare. I don't know much about Obamacare, but what I do know seems like something us Americans NEED. It is completely ridiculous that that was the hanging point in the un-reached deal. Are we simple folk that insignificant to congress? I am just so darn frustrated, would be nice to be able to voice my feelings to our government, but apparently it wouldn't matter to them anyway.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: moonangel on October 01, 2013, 10:12:21 am
wrll im confused about how it is it seems like its too high cost for me but if I don't have it I have to pay a fine why do they think that if I don't have the money for the insurance that ill have money for the fine and if I understood right the fine increases each year? :BangHead:
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: patycake56 on October 01, 2013, 10:30:21 am
I agree with you I think this is absolutely crazy the government has no inkling about the little people all they do is sit there non their butts and draw a [payday and take a vacation whenever they want.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: gaylasue on October 01, 2013, 01:12:16 pm
We need to throw them all out of office and start over!  I can proudly say I didn't vote for anyone currently in office.  Seems like I have only voted for the losers for several years now.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: minioncookies on October 01, 2013, 01:45:12 pm
LOL.. well obama won't be in the whitehouse another semester bahahha.. i can see clearly nowww the rain is gone!
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: darkxtsuna on October 01, 2013, 01:51:19 pm
Government = only care about there own well being. I'm all in for the Obama care I know a lot of people who needs it.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: bonzie on October 01, 2013, 02:00:44 pm
I think the government are so confusing, I don't understand both sides, I `m not sure who are right and who are wrong.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: bonzie on October 01, 2013, 02:02:05 pm
They are just making the people confused, hope everything will gonna be fine soon.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: bonzie on October 01, 2013, 02:04:14 pm
People have a million of questions, that don`t know where to find the answers. I guess I'll just wait and see whats happens next.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: monnee on October 01, 2013, 02:50:19 pm
The Government shutdown is a bunch of  :bs:  .  They need to stop playing games and get back to serving the people that they were elected in office for.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: vickysue on October 01, 2013, 02:54:03 pm
There is really no reason for the shutdown, but with all of the blame games going on, the finger pointing and other cra@. going on it is enough to make a person puke. and of course our so called president (if you can call him that) is so stuck on himself and what he wants it is no wonder nothing ever gets done. No balanced budget in 5 years and Obama wanting to raise the debt ceiling so he can have his pet project of obamacare.  If the congress had to join in the healthcare plan they would all be voting against it. And then you look at all the special  interest groups that will exempt and of course medicaid that does not leave a lot to pay for it. You noticed i did not include medicare, well that is because we pay for it every month. It comes right out of our social security check.  
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: mrisha on October 01, 2013, 02:55:39 pm
The problem is the people who are suppose to be running the government, has allowed the idea of power to go to their heads, therefore forgetting the people whom they are suppose to protect.  They don't give  damn about the people.  Everyone wants to blame Obama for all the problems that is happening.  Open your eyes people Obama doesn't make these decisions alone.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: hawkeye3210 on October 01, 2013, 03:29:57 pm
So, did anything change in your daily lives now that the government shutdown? Probably not. Nothing to get worked up about.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: melissajh44 on October 01, 2013, 03:32:25 pm
What a stupid political stunt the House Republicans are pulling. It's backfiring on them big time.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: hawkeye3210 on October 01, 2013, 03:38:45 pm
What a stupid political stunt the House Republicans are pulling. It's backfiring on them big time.

How exactly do you believe it is backfiring? Not much evidence of that.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: jorhea on October 01, 2013, 03:39:16 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous. As one of our congressman said "The republicans need to grow up and act like adults. Put the Tea Party republicans on a time out and do what is right for the people in this country" Furloughing all those workers is going to be a bad hit on the economy.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: lywb2168 on October 01, 2013, 03:40:20 pm
So, did anything change in your daily lives now that the government shutdown? Probably not. Nothing to get worked up about.

YEs it did, I live in the DC area, work for a government contract and was send home because of the shutdown, so for me there is no pay will it is closed.  I do have some days of vacation but it is not fair that I will have to give up my vacations because the government cannot get their act together.  I am all for ACA (Obamacare) the congress and senate is just for their own ideals.  After all they do get pay while I am fretting at home.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: hawkeye3210 on October 01, 2013, 03:49:10 pm
This is absolutely ridiculous. As one of our congressman said "The republicans need to grow up and act like adults. Put the Tea Party republicans on a time out and do what is right for the people in this country" Furloughing all those workers is going to be a bad hit on the economy.

Is that why the Dow posted a gain today? The doom and gloom about the economy is nothing more than fear mongering. Remember how the sequester was going to cripple the economy? It didn't. This won't either.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: melissajh44 on October 01, 2013, 04:11:30 pm
What a stupid political stunt the House Republicans are pulling. It's backfiring on them big time.

How exactly do you believe it is backfiring? Not much evidence of that.

Every single poll you can find on it.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: angprescott on October 01, 2013, 04:32:03 pm
At this point the shut down isn't affecting me, so I am not to concerned, but I do feel bad for those out of work, I think they should take congress pay away for each they keep it down, like a fine for holding up the rest of us. I have insurance so it doesn't make a difference to me, but I do think it would be good for everyone to have coverage, but would like to see it affordable, even mine is already too much.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: potluck6 on October 01, 2013, 04:34:02 pm
this is the fault of the tea party republicians need to boycott tea grrr
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: rainman306 on October 01, 2013, 04:34:21 pm
They are stubborn and idiots, but the government has shut down before.  Most recently in 1996 for 28 days but than I was only a kid and would hardly pay attention to such things.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: o2bnocn on October 01, 2013, 05:07:09 pm
It's crazy. I can't believe it. It just keeps getting worse and worse.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: hawkeye3210 on October 01, 2013, 05:18:35 pm
What a stupid political stunt the House Republicans are pulling. It's backfiring on them big time.

How exactly do you believe it is backfiring? Not much evidence of that.

Every single poll you can find on it.

Polls? And polls mean what exactly? Are you talking about the same polls that show that the majority Americans oppose Obamacare? Please. Polls show that the majority Americans disapprove the way all parties are handling this, which includes the Republicans, Democrats, and Obama.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: swkstudent on October 01, 2013, 06:50:02 pm
The Government shutdown is a bunch of  :bs:  .  They need to stop playing games and get back to serving the people that they were elected in office for.

Exactly!
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: sharonpatri55 on October 01, 2013, 08:03:38 pm
Ditto. The disapproval rating Americans have for Congress (both Republican and Democrat) and the White House is at 10% right now. One in every five Americans oppose Obamacare, yet they are trying to shove it down our throats. Not one single politician is in office to serve the American people, it is about serving their own selfish agendas. And what is interesting is they are all getting paid a weekly average of $3,600 even while the government has been shut down.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: Storm61115 on October 01, 2013, 08:10:03 pm
i didnt vote for obama the first time around and i didnt vote for him this time around. these people that run congress seem to be stupid. why do we let stupid people in the house etc. most of them need to be fired or their pay cut. they dont do anything anyway. this is just stupid. my fiance has his theories about whats going to happen. i just hope that his theories are not correct coz we all would be in trouble. i fear for all of us.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: mstevenson2 on October 01, 2013, 09:45:40 pm
they are stupid let them go with out
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: melissajh44 on October 01, 2013, 11:25:08 pm
What a stupid political stunt the House Republicans are pulling. It's backfiring on them big time.

How exactly do you believe it is backfiring? Not much evidence of that.

Every single poll you can find on it.

Polls? And polls mean what exactly? Are you talking about the same polls that show that the majority Americans oppose Obamacare? Please. Polls show that the majority Americans disapprove the way all parties are handling this, which includes the Republicans, Democrats, and Obama.

Sorry but the blame of the government shutdown is massively on the House GOP, close to 70%, which is why they're already trying to pass a bill to reopen some parts of the government. Just like in the 90's, this stunt has backfired. How dumb is it to shut down the government over a law that's already funded and got enacted anyway?
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: ktheodos on October 02, 2013, 03:53:52 am
love all the government criticism on this thread-I'm in agreement about how stupid this is - then again, leaders reflect a lot about the people they serve....if the opposite of pro is con, does that mean the opposite of Progress is Congress?
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: hawkeye3210 on October 02, 2013, 05:05:56 am
What a stupid political stunt the House Republicans are pulling. It's backfiring on them big time.

How exactly do you believe it is backfiring? Not much evidence of that.

Every single poll you can find on it.

Polls? And polls mean what exactly? Are you talking about the same polls that show that the majority Americans oppose Obamacare? Please. Polls show that the majority Americans disapprove the way all parties are handling this, which includes the Republicans, Democrats, and Obama.

Sorry but the blame of the government shutdown is massively on the House GOP, close to 70%, which is why they're already trying to pass a bill to reopen some parts of the government. Just like in the 90's, this stunt has backfired. How dumb is it to shut down the government over a law that's already funded and got enacted anyway?

It's about 63% disapprove of the Republicans handling of this, and 56% disapprove of the Democrats. But again, this move wasn't made to gain in meaningless polls. The Republicans shutdown the government in the 90's to bring about a balanced budget and they eventually got that. Backfired? No.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: LenoraMinogue on October 02, 2013, 06:21:38 am
This has just gotten ridiculous. Obamacare is a law now, and this shutdown is just a desperate move to try to get rid of it. I think it should be illegal for them to do this.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: ljrjess69 on October 02, 2013, 07:34:36 am
I relly don't know what to think of it all!!  ???
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: BJohnsonPP on October 02, 2013, 08:44:34 am
So, did anything change in your daily lives now that the government shutdown? Probably not. Nothing to get worked up about.

So, don't care about something unless it affects me? Sorry, I'm not that selfish. That's just an utterly screwed up way to see things. Also, we're talking one day here. You don't wait until things get worse and then deal with them. For the sake of mankind, don't give anyone advice.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: gaylasue on October 02, 2013, 08:50:17 am
I think it is time to do away with the Democrat and Republican parties.  Seems like they can't agree on anything if it is a "democrat" or "republican" idea.  Congress is worse than a playground of children ~ small children ~ who haven't learned how to play well with others.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: mill8277 on October 02, 2013, 09:03:59 am
If we don't have health insurance by 2014 we will be fined a certain amount and I guess the fine will get bigger and bigger each year, the IRS will be the one to oversee this new program...and we all know how they operate.....now my situation is, I'm a single mother who works outside the home, I qualify for food stamps but can't get m'caid.....I can't afford to pay for insurance outta pocket, what am I to do, and all those who fall in the same bracket as me? Now I am for affordable insurance coverage, but the key word is "affordable"......this is a no win situation for the citizens of this so called free country.......I'm glad the Republicans have taken a stand for what I feel is right.....
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: hawkeye3210 on October 02, 2013, 10:16:28 am
So, did anything change in your daily lives now that the government shutdown? Probably not. Nothing to get worked up about.

So, don't care about something unless it affects me? Sorry, I'm not that selfish. That's just an utterly screwed up way to see things. Also, we're talking one day here. You don't wait until things get worse and then deal with them. For the sake of mankind, don't give anyone advice.

Not the intention of my comment, but judge away. We have people acting like doomsday is a foregone conclusion, so I simply asked people to take a look around and see how this affects them. Do you really believe everyone that is getting worked up is simply a selfless individual? I don't have such delusions when it comes to society. Or, are they simply buying into some of the doomsday media reports? I'm suggesting that people actually think for themselves and develop their own opinions.

Considering that this all beyond their control and most aren't willing to anything about it regardless, why get yourself worked up over it when it doesn't affect you? People have enough to worry about. Worrying about something you can't change or are willing to try to change, is simply wasted energy.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: msmoneybags48 on October 02, 2013, 10:26:36 am
There were not many problems before Boehner got himself in it as the Speaker of the House.  Then suddenly we heard that "the government is broke".  The Republicans just closed down the Government, and that is serious.  I hear nothing about Boehner or the rest of the people in the House of Representatives giving up their paycheck.  The only thing they care about is that they have Obama's back up against the wall.  We are the ones suffering out here because we elected them into office and they have big swollen heads because they suckered us into it. ??? ??? ??? :wave:
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: dancer139 on October 02, 2013, 11:01:49 am
i do believe we need to get rid of all the idiots that we have now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,  elect some new idiots and see what happens with the second string.  Because amazingly no one seems to know what the american people need.   :'(

and right now we don't need any of them  ;D
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: melissajh44 on October 02, 2013, 12:16:56 pm
It's about 63% disapprove of the Republicans handling of this

Thanks for affirming my point.  :wave:
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: BJohnsonPP on October 03, 2013, 11:32:09 am
So, did anything change in your daily lives now that the government shutdown? Probably not. Nothing to get worked up about.

So, don't care about something unless it affects me? Sorry, I'm not that selfish. That's just an utterly screwed up way to see things. Also, we're talking one day here. You don't wait until things get worse and then deal with them. For the sake of mankind, don't give anyone advice.

Not the intention of my comment, but judge away. We have people acting like doomsday is a foregone conclusion, so I simply asked people to take a look around and see how this affects them. Do you really believe everyone that is getting worked up is simply a selfless individual? I don't have such delusions when it comes to society. Or, are they simply buying into some of the doomsday media reports? I'm suggesting that people actually think for themselves and develop their own opinions.

I take your point that if people are being made to believe that this affects them directly, they should actually take a breath and see if that's reality or not. My point, however, is, even if they find that nothing has changed in their lives, it is still not "nothing to get worked up about". Government should not "work" this way and if anyone is affected negatively, everyone should be concerned.

You're making assumptions by the way. You can craft your own opinion and still be "worked up". Aside from the local news, I don't watch "news" networks because 24 hr news shows are more show and less news. So what you're saying doesn't apply to me and many others. My concern comes from being tired. The saying isn't "the bale of hay that broke the camels back" it's "the straw...". This doesn't have to be armageddon, it just has to be stupid enough to say enough is enough.

Considering that this all beyond their control and most aren't willing to anything about it regardless, why get yourself worked up over it when it doesn't affect you? People have enough to worry about. Worrying about something you can't change or are willing to try to change, is simply wasted energy.

You can't say "this [is] all beyond their control" and then say "most aren't willing to [do] anything about it...". You don't know what people are willing to do and if it's something they can't control, their will doesn't factor in. However, you're wrong. Not being able to do something about it immediately doesn't mean nothing can be done. You stay concerned about it even when it passes and keep it in your mind when it's time to vote again.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: hawkeye3210 on October 03, 2013, 04:00:56 pm
So, did anything change in your daily lives now that the government shutdown? Probably not. Nothing to get worked up about.

So, don't care about something unless it affects me? Sorry, I'm not that selfish. That's just an utterly screwed up way to see things. Also, we're talking one day here. You don't wait until things get worse and then deal with them. For the sake of mankind, don't give anyone advice.

Not the intention of my comment, but judge away. We have people acting like doomsday is a foregone conclusion, so I simply asked people to take a look around and see how this affects them. Do you really believe everyone that is getting worked up is simply a selfless individual? I don't have such delusions when it comes to society. Or, are they simply buying into some of the doomsday media reports? I'm suggesting that people actually think for themselves and develop their own opinions.

I take your point that if people are being made to believe that this affects them directly, they should actually take a breath and see if that's reality or not. My point, however, is, even if they find that nothing has changed in their lives, it is still not "nothing to get worked up about". Government should not "work" this way and if anyone is affected negatively, everyone should be concerned.

You're making assumptions by the way. You can craft your own opinion and still be "worked up". Aside from the local news, I don't watch "news" networks because 24 hr news shows are more show and less news. So what you're saying doesn't apply to me and many others. My concern comes from being tired. The saying isn't "the bale of hay that broke the camels back" it's "the straw...". This doesn't have to be armageddon, it just has to be stupid enough to say enough is enough.

Considering that this all beyond their control and most aren't willing to anything about it regardless, why get yourself worked up over it when it doesn't affect you? People have enough to worry about. Worrying about something you can't change or are willing to try to change, is simply wasted energy.

You can't say "this [is] all beyond their control" and then say "most aren't willing to [do] anything about it...". You don't know what people are willing to do and if it's something they can't control, their will doesn't factor in. However, you're wrong. Not being able to do something about it immediately doesn't mean nothing can be done. You stay concerned about it even when it passes and keep it in your mind when it's time to vote again.

The government does a lot of things they shouldn't. They shouldn't be running at these massive deficits, they shouldn't need to have debates about raising a debt ceiling to pay prior debts, and they certainly shouldn't shut down either. But they do. However, in determining one's own happiness, it's simply noise. I concern myself with things I can control. I refuse to get worked up about things beyond my control, and certainly refuse to believe I'm that I'm the victim. That gets you nowhere.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: debidoo on October 03, 2013, 04:05:29 pm
Agreed Burlapunderwear - I don't know but I think something is wrong with the whole picture.  I mean the President still gets paid.  Congress still gets paid.  It is just a mess but it always ends up the little person who is hurt.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: 6265AT99 on October 03, 2013, 04:34:37 pm
Well according to what I'm seeing on MSN's website, the government has shut down. I voted for the first time in the last election, and frankly I'm beginning to wonder why the heck I even bothered. I am ALL FOR affordable healthcare. I don't know much about Obamacare, but what I do know seems like something us Americans NEED. It is completely ridiculous that that was the hanging point in the un-reached deal. Are we simple folk that insignificant to congress? I am just so darn frustrated, would be nice to be able to voice my feelings to our government, but apparently it wouldn't matter to them anyway.

I hate to break it to you but it isn't just Congress that is the problem - it's that inhuman, selfish, overbearing piece of work they call a President.  He has no desire to "negotiate" with Congress and he's like a spoiled brat - my way or the highway.  I hope to hell CONGRESS STICKS TO ITS GUNS AND SAYS TO HIM "STICK IT"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  But, in all fairness, WE NEED TO GET ALL OF THESE SELF-SERVING IDIOTS WHO SUPPOSEDLY "REPRESENT" US THE HELL OUT - THEY ARE ALL IN THERE WAY TOO LONG AND ARE WAY TOO COMFORTABLE AND ARE NOT SERVING "WE THE PEOPLE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: cathy37 on October 03, 2013, 05:45:25 pm
I think that the government shutdown is stupid and that it is not fair to the people of the US.  I too am in favor of affordable health care, but I think it should be affordable to everyone.  I pay my daughter's health insurance and everything that I have checked into about her coverage is not going to be good.  I think her premium is going to go up again this year.  The premium for her insurance since she has had it has already gone up over $100.
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Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: southernhorizons on October 04, 2013, 08:03:51 am
Well according to what I'm seeing on MSN's website, the government has shut down. I voted for the first time in the last election, and frankly I'm beginning to wonder why the heck I even bothered. I am ALL FOR affordable healthcare. I don't know much about Obamacare, but what I do know seems like something us Americans NEED. It is completely ridiculous that that was the hanging point in the un-reached deal. Are we simple folk that insignificant to congress? I am just so darn frustrated, would be nice to be able to voice my feelings to our government, but apparently it wouldn't matter to them anyway.

I hate to break it to you but it isn't just Congress that is the problem - it's that inhuman, selfish, overbearing piece of work they call a President.  He has no desire to "negotiate" with Congress and he's like a spoiled brat - my way or the highway.  I hope to hell CONGRESS STICKS TO ITS GUNS AND SAYS TO HIM "STICK IT"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  But, in all fairness, WE NEED TO GET ALL OF THESE SELF-SERVING IDIOTS WHO SUPPOSEDLY "REPRESENT" US THE HELL OUT - THEY ARE ALL IN THERE WAY TOO LONG AND ARE WAY TOO COMFORTABLE AND ARE NOT SERVING "WE THE PEOPLE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's true. Why do some people think only Republicans are supposed to compromise? (Of course they also think that "compromise" means give in totally.) The Republicans actually did compromise, by asking for a 1 year delay, instead of just getting rid of obamacare altogether, but that still wasn't enough for the Democrats. So while both sides are at fault, Obama and the Democrats are much more so.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: ghunter on October 04, 2013, 10:13:16 am
The only reason this is happening is because of President Obama, if this was one of the Bushes it would not happen. I think everyone should have affordable health care, but I guess Congress think it should be only for the working class of people and some of them that work can't afford health care.  Thank God they won't have President Obama to push around anymore and who ever is President let them bash him and call him by his last name only instead of President .......whoever :peace:
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: madeara on October 04, 2013, 11:13:20 am
You are so right.  The shutdown is embarrassing and ridiculous.  I hope the situation is resolved soon. 
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: Timberlan127 on October 04, 2013, 11:31:35 am
I've always thought we had such a great system here in the US but it seems that politics have ruined our country lately. All they do is fight for power against each other and ignore the welfare of the people who elected them. I am so sick of politicians who lie to us and only vote for increases in their own pay and benefits while vetoing anything that would benefit the public. I have always voted. But now voting is almost useless because it comes down to which politian will do the least amount of damage not who will help the country!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: dmitchn1 on October 04, 2013, 12:20:56 pm
I'm so confused about it???  ??? I'm so poor it makes me sick I work hard at a retail job and just recently got promoted to management but the more money I make the less help I get and having 2 children I need all the help that I can get. I try hard to make as much money doing a job that I don't particularly enjoy just to know that if I quit today and just stayed at home I would have enough money to survive unlikely I do now. So I just recently qualified for medicaid and my insurance through work won't let me drop it. So, I'm paying for one insurance while getting the other one free, but what happens with Obama care??? Will I still get government help???? Will I get fined if I don't sign up for it??? I just don't understand
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: BMaston12 on October 04, 2013, 03:11:54 pm
Well according to what I'm seeing on MSN's website, the government has shut down. I voted for the first time in the last election, and frankly I'm beginning to wonder why the heck I even bothered. I am ALL FOR affordable healthcare. I don't know much about Obamacare, but what I do know seems like something us Americans NEED. It is completely ridiculous that that was the hanging point in the un-reached deal. Are we simple folk that insignificant to congress? I am just so darn frustrated, would be nice to be able to voice my feelings to our government, but apparently it wouldn't matter to them anyway.
I was wondering if someone would post on this subject! My thoughts are with sooo many pages to the document, what are we missing in the fine print. I feel like the Pres is using strong-arm tactics to get his plan enforced and make everyone pay for healthcare. HIs party definitely wanted to shut down the Gov. I am glad that guards decided to let in veterans to visit the War Memorials, in spite of the barracades. The Washington Monument, Lincoln Memorial and many others are on a walkway around a park. I don't see why Americans should be prevented from seeing these icons of architecture. Seems like Obama just wants to hurt the Average Joe. Why?
BMaston12
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: burlapunderwear on October 07, 2013, 08:25:09 pm
So, did anything change in your daily lives now that the government shutdown? Probably not. Nothing to get worked up about.

No, nothing has changed in my life. I'm still receiving state-funded healthcare and food stamps, but I do know people who have been affected by the shutdown. One of them is in some branch of the Army and has been furloughed, so I assume he isn't being paid except by unemployment, which is at least a slap in the face when trying to support a family of four.
Just because it isn't affecting you, and it isn't affecting me, doesn't mean that it is the same for everyone else.
No, even though it's been a week and one "terrorist" attack later it still probably isn't much to get worked up about. But if this lasts much longer we ALL will start seeing a trickle down affect and it won't be pretty. Our economy was just barely starting to get better and we really didn't need this BS now.

To the rest of you...I haven't had a chance to read your replies, been a week without my computer and I have a LOT of catching up to do, but I will do so in the next couple of days, hopefully things are going as well as they can for you.  :wave:
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: ricdsm on October 07, 2013, 08:30:30 pm
It is a sad state of affairs.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: alaskakaren on October 07, 2013, 08:59:31 pm
not following it...
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: 12amos on October 07, 2013, 09:16:48 pm
I think Obamacare will be great for the country.  It's sad that you have politicians who want to hold up progress and put a Government Shut Down burden on the very people they are suppose to be representing and helping.  My understanding is 50% of the Republicans and 50% of the Democrats wanted to vote to prevent a government shutdown but were not given the opportunity by John Boehner to do so. This is so sad.  You would think in this day and age Republicans would be willing to work with Democrats for the good of the country and not for selfish game.  :(
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: BJohnsonPP on October 08, 2013, 08:09:13 am
I was wondering if someone would post on this subject! My thoughts are with sooo many pages to the document, what are we missing in the fine print. I feel like the Pres is using strong-arm tactics to get his plan enforced and make everyone pay for healthcare. HIs party definitely wanted to shut down the Gov. I am glad that guards decided to let in veterans to visit the War Memorials, in spite of the barracades. The Washington Monument, Lincoln Memorial and many others are on a walkway around a park. I don't see why Americans should be prevented from seeing these icons of architecture. Seems like Obama just wants to hurt the Average Joe. Why?
BMaston12

I really don't understand what world you're living in. I'm not saying this to be antagonistic, I just really don't understand people that make these comments. Obamacare passed in 2010 and parts of it have already gone into effect, but it's to be fully implemented beginning in 2014. It's already law and it has been that for 3 years now. Do you not know this? So he's using strong arm tactics to do what? It has already gone through the constitutional process of becoming a law 3 years ago!

Republicans control the House of Representatives. The House controls the budget. If a budget doesn't get passed, the government shuts down because it's not funded. THEY refuse to pass a budget unless THEY get to delay Obamacare for another year. This is extortion. THIS is a strong-arm tactic. Obamacare is already settled law but they refuse to accept it and therefore refuse to do their jobs of passing a budget, but you come to the conclusion that it's the Presidents party at fault here? In what world?

Obamacare, whether you like the law or not, attempts to extend health care to millions of Americans. How is that an attempt to hurt the average Joe? I really don't understand what you're talking about.

Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: devideddi on October 08, 2013, 09:31:38 am
The more stuff that goes on with this shutdown/congress/president/laws rules/political/society-world, the more stupid crazy it seems. Stuff that don't even make sense for people to do and rules that don't help or programs that don't work. Most the time we can't control any of it and the unfairness can be overwhelming.
I'm glad I am confident God is in control and this world is not my true home.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: bigedshult on October 08, 2013, 09:46:38 am
keep it shutdown till Oboma uni is willing to talk and not tell us the way that is going be.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: coreyw87 on October 08, 2013, 12:00:40 pm
Well we are insignificant to Congress because what happens to us doesn't affect them.  It is my understanding for one thing that they get paid their hefty salaries regardless and they get health coverage for life.  It could matter less to them what happens to us.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: acurtsinger2 on October 08, 2013, 12:38:18 pm
i like the idea of affordable healthcare.  i went years without going to the dentist and lost all my top teeth.  i went years without seeing eye doctor and now i'm legally blind, because vision and dental wasnt included in the healthcare i had at work, BUT, the idea of them being able to get into out bank accounts is not right.  it is a true invasion of privacy.  Mr. Obama is a good president, he needs to compromise and rework some of the plan that he is implementing.
Title: Re: Government shutdown
Post by: burlapunderwear on October 08, 2013, 08:08:33 pm
i like the idea of affordable healthcare.  i went years without going to the dentist and lost all my top teeth.  i went years without seeing eye doctor and now i'm legally blind, because vision and dental wasnt included in the healthcare i had at work, BUT, the idea of them being able to get into out bank accounts is not right.  it is a true invasion of privacy.  Mr. Obama is a good president, he needs to compromise and rework some of the plan that he is implementing.

I am in kind of the same situation as you. Dental and vision are not included in my healthcare. I had the same glasses for over 5 years and they kept breaking. Couldn't get new ones so they were repeatedly sautered, which was $5 a pop and even though it looked like crap at least I could still see. And my teeth have been going bad for the last 12 years, since I was 15. I now have nine teeth left, only one of them isn't rotting. Last time I looked the dentures that I want (the long-lasting kind that you can actually eat with) are $2500.