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Title: Friend is Arrested
Post by: sherryinutah on June 04, 2014, 09:05:15 pm
I have a  friend who was recently arrested.  She's a Master Herbalist in town and has helped a lot of people with their health.  She's also a midwife and has delivered a lot of babies within the past 20 years and she ran The Pathway to Wellness Center here, in Cedar City.  Needless to say, I was shocked to see her on the inmate booking website.

According to the internet...she delivered a set of premature twins and one of the babies died.  She was arrested yesterday and is being charged with manslaughter and reckless endangerment. 

I think she's in trouble because she lives outside the box.  She's a healer--she's not a medical professional.  She took risks that I wouldn't be willing to take.

What do you think?  Should she be in jail?

Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: Liquidfire_43 on June 05, 2014, 11:35:58 am
If she is a part of The Pathway to Wellness Center, wouldn't she be certified to deliver babies? If she was certified to help deliver babies and there were  complications of the birth that lead to death I don't think she should be charge of manslaughter... If she wasn't certified to deliver babies, she should know the dangers of getting arrested and charge of homicide if something went wrong.

Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: tfw6693 on June 05, 2014, 11:51:35 am
 :) A lot of times, one has to go through the court system to be cleared from further punishment. Pray for her that truth and justice will prevail.  :)
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: aggie49 on June 05, 2014, 12:44:53 pm
it is wrong but she will have to go threw the system before she can clear herself tell her to get a good lawyer
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: bremer51 on June 05, 2014, 01:11:52 pm
It doesn't seem right.  But when someone dies, there will always been an investigation.
I certainly hope that justice will triumph.
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: reiddb on June 05, 2014, 01:27:37 pm
I guess it depends on if there really was neglect~
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: potluck6 on June 05, 2014, 01:37:46 pm
She's a master herbalist ya mean she sells weed.Sorry been watching the show Weeds on netflix Fun but crazy show. Doesn't seem like she would hurt anyone on purpose hope she gets a good lawyer.
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: debidoo on June 05, 2014, 01:49:48 pm
Tragic situation both for your friend and the folks who lost the baby....... however they choose to go an alternative route and have a mid-wife so I don't understand the arrest.  If the same circumstances happened in a hosp with a MD would the cops have come in and arrested him/her?  Seems not right.
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: BlackSheepNY on June 05, 2014, 02:26:23 pm
I have a  friend who was recently arrested.  She's a Master Herbalist in town and has helped a lot of people with their health.  She's also a midwife and has delivered a lot of babies within the past 20 years and she ran The Pathway to Wellness Center here, in Cedar City.  Needless to say, I was shocked to see her on the inmate booking website.

According to the internet...she delivered a set of premature twins and one of the babies died.  She was arrested yesterday and is being charged with manslaughter and reckless endangerment. 

I think she's in trouble because she lives outside the box.  She's a healer--she's not a medical professional.  She took risks that I wouldn't be willing to take.

What do you think?  Should she be in jail?



I guess this would depend upon the laws where you live.  If she was a licensed Midwife and ran into trouble during delivery, I believe they are required to contact or get the woman to a hospital where there are M.D.'s.  I'm pretty sure these Midwives are trained to spot when there are problems.  If she took matters in to her own hands, well ............
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: raven1114 on June 05, 2014, 03:23:41 pm
Tragic situation both for your friend and the folks who lost the baby....... however they choose to go an alternative route and have a mid-wife so I don't understand the arrest.  If the same circumstances happened in a hosp with a MD would the cops have come in and arrested him/her?  Seems not right.

My thoughts exactly. I mean they don't go and arrest doctors everytime a baby dies during birth. Sometimes these things just happen. Maybe the baby had something wrong with it and it couldn't survive.
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: Nancy5 on June 06, 2014, 07:06:53 am
Agree with BlackSheepNY, if there was a problem during delivery and she is a licensed mid wife it's their duty and responsibility to get mom to a hospital with medical doctors and equipment ASAP.  If she didn't and "tried to resolve the problem" herself, then........
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: nannycoe1 on June 06, 2014, 07:50:35 am
I saw that story on Nancy Grace last night, I think your friend may be in a lot of trouble. Maybe she meant well,but things went terribly wrong. I will be following this story.
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: sak4kat on June 06, 2014, 08:11:36 am
I agree with potluck6 - birthing twins offers a set of complications where singleton births aren't affected.  The couple knowing that took the risk of using a midwife rather a ob/gyne (I'm assuming in an environment other than a hospital)  2 babies = higher risk.  I feel for the family who lost the baby but it seems seeking justice in the form of this woman being arrested for criminal charges - manslaughter and reckless endangerment is inappropriate.  Of course we weren't there and don't know what the situation was and how things developed.  Please keep us posted on the story. 
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: stretch1967 on June 06, 2014, 08:15:36 am
This is interesting. Keep updated
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: nannycoe1 on June 06, 2014, 08:24:28 am
I have a  friend who was recently arrested.  She's a Master Herbalist in town and has helped a lot of people with their health.  She's also a midwife and has delivered a lot of babies within the past 20 years and she ran The Pathway to Wellness Center here, in Cedar City.  Needless to say, I was shocked to see her on the inmate booking website.

According to the internet...she delivered a set of premature twins and one of the babies died.  She was arrested yesterday and is being charged with manslaughter and reckless endangerment. 

I think she's in trouble because she lives outside the box.  She's a healer--she's not a medical professional.  She took risks that I wouldn't be willing to take.

What do you think?  Should she be in jail?


Please keep us updated on your friend.
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: mrisha on June 06, 2014, 08:36:45 am
I think there is more to the story on her side.  If one of the babies died-why?  What difficulties did she encounter when trying to deliver the babies?  Was she in a safe environment while delivering the babies?  Did the parents call the Police and if so why?  Living outside the box when dealing with peoples lives is a no-no.

You say she ran a wellness center? Were the parents unable to deliver in a hospital? If so why didn't they so do and was the Mother getting prenatal care doing the pregnancy? 
There are so many questions to be answered before I could say yes or no.
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: hitch0403 on June 06, 2014, 12:58:50 pm
I would think she would need medical insurance.Drs need it and shes NOT a Dr.I am wondering if she should be even practicing that?

I dont know enuff about it but i am curious to hear how it plays out.

Plus i wonder where her conscience is if she knows shes qualified to do just that.
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: wendyr19 on June 06, 2014, 03:28:15 pm
Wouldn't your friend be certified to deliver babies if she works for the clinic? But regardless, whenever a mother loses her child, she feels lost and as in any case of a death, people look to blame someone. My thoughts and prayers go out to your friend and I hope the justice system clears her any charges that she had no control ever.
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: crisstar on June 06, 2014, 03:32:44 pm
The authorities must have thought she was reckless in some regard when she delivered the twins. There's nothing wrong living outside the box but you can't do things that jeopardize the life of others.
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: JediJohnnie on June 06, 2014, 04:39:13 pm
I don't know any of the details,but it sounds strange.I didn't really think there was laws involved in child delivery.I guess only Doctors are allowed that now?
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: colbtrist on June 06, 2014, 06:06:56 pm
I am thinking she probably didn't mean for this to happen. But on the other hand, if she wasn't licensed to deliver babies she knew the risk she was taking. I hope all turns out well for everyone.
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: madeara on June 06, 2014, 06:24:37 pm
Sherry,
Your friend took a risk delivering babies without a medical license.  I am sorry that she was arrested and that one of the babies passed.  This is a tragic situation for everyone involved.
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: jmccaskill on June 06, 2014, 07:05:07 pm
She took the decision to operate outside of the law, obviously. She knew the risks, or should have and is now paying the piper. Not knowing her, but knowing of 'healers' in general, they should go to medical school and get their credentials THEN they can practice medicine in the way they see fit. I have no sympathy for her at all.
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: 6265AT99 on June 06, 2014, 07:25:34 pm
If she is a "licensed" mid-wife I don't see how she should be in trouble.  I would think the person who was going to her for delivery knew in advance that she was just a mid-wife and not a real medical doctor.  If, on the other hand, she is not "licensed" and the person giving birth didn't know or realize that she was limited in her "birthing skills" well then she could be charged with manslaughter.  It's really a case of knowing the whole story before passing judgment.
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: LenoraMinogue on June 07, 2014, 08:50:07 am
I think arresting her is going too far really. If a doctor delivers a baby that doesn't live, they don't get arrested. But I could see why they might want to bring her in for questioning just to clear up the matter.
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: loulizlee on June 07, 2014, 08:58:18 am
I also saw the story on Nancy Grace and, I think, Dr. Drew.  I don't remember the exact details, but she is and should be in trouble.  She insisted on delivering the second twin, knowing there were problems. 
Title: Re: Friend is Arrested
Post by: ljrjess69 on June 08, 2014, 08:22:21 am
...smh.... :(