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Title: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: eSineM on July 22, 2009, 04:46:38 pm
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/07/22/cb.obesity.crime.cnn

I think so.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: trujillo33 on July 22, 2009, 07:07:57 pm
I think it falls more under child neglect...a mother got charge with child neglect..something like that. Her son is i think 14 weights 530 lbs.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: lbeery on July 22, 2009, 07:16:18 pm
I think in extreme cases it is, unless it is due to an untreatable medical condition.  Nowadays, with so much information available about obesity, ignorance of nutrition is no excuse.  I now live in an area where a large part of the population is, if not obese, then certainly able to hold down their end of the bench.  I wonder whether this is a regional attitude derived from a customary diet, or due to poverty and the fact that starches are cheaper than protien and vegetables or if people are not as "attuned" to body image here as they were in the large western city where I lived before.  I know that diabetes and joint ailments are high here too. What to you think is the leading cause of this overweight status of so many?
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: HellRazor22 on July 22, 2009, 09:11:56 pm
No, It is not child abuse. Its closer to neglect then abuse.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: liljp617 on July 23, 2009, 12:54:54 am
So basically everybody in the US food industry is abusing children?

There are responsibilities of a parent and there are responsibilities of the food industry.  The food industry is by no means keeping up their responsibilities, should the parents?  The amount of crap they shove into just about everything on grocery store shelves (to make it last longer, make it taste better, get more meat out of an animal, etc.) is the problem.  Parents feeding this junk to their children (and I'm not just talking about Twinkies, I'm talking about EVERYTHING) is just one small subset of the root problem.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: cowgirlx on July 23, 2009, 10:46:12 am
abuse, neglect, and just laziness. If they would get off their couches and take their kids to the park, they probably wouldn't put much weight on.  I personally have issues with getting my kids to come in to eat. At 9 and 10 they are very lean, but eat like little piggies. Then they go out and burn it off again.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: angietx on July 23, 2009, 10:58:47 am
I really think that depends on the child.  I know from personal experience.  My daughter, now 12 and at a good weight, was over weight for most of her years.  We did not feed her unhealthy foods at home but from age 4 til 11 she was overweight for her age and height.  No medical condition just she chose to eat unhealthy away from home.  She is now, wanting to be thinner so she is watching what she eats outside the home.  To see her today and to know what she looked like just a year ago you would think she
is sick.  She isnt.  She just wants to be healther, thinner and my thoughts, she wants to impress the boys. 
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: anjasmommy on July 23, 2009, 11:51:20 am
In certain cases, I think it can be. With all the information out there now about nutrition and diseases, it is neglegent to keep shoving chicken nuggets in large amounts down your kids' throats. But I think it is 50% parents, 25% food industry, and 25% media. McDonalds alone, with its tasty food and its appealing commercials is pretty much teaching our kids to be fat! But as parents, we need to teach our kids healthy habits. apple slices instead of french fries!
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: pigroxie on July 23, 2009, 01:39:19 pm
Unless it is a medical condition, I believe it is child abuse. Many of my friends as a child were overweight but their parents worked with them to eat healthy foods and lose unneeded weight but there were a few who just ate whatever they wanted and their parents never cared. They thought they were the best treated children and so did everyone else at the time but they were the ones who always came home to an empty house and took care of themselves. I view that as neglectful child abuse.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: bananapudding on July 23, 2009, 03:34:41 pm
I really would not say child abuse. A mother who lets  her,say, 2 year old get up to 200 pounds without helping them stay healthy should be very much a shame. The child is going to eat as long as you feed them. Mothers should take a good look at what they are feeding these kids these days.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: fazedx on July 23, 2009, 11:18:17 pm
some of it is the parents fault, but most if it is the industrys. fast food, 7/11's, candy everywhere you go, vending machines, soda, etc. america makes it CONVENIENT to become obese.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: cowgirlx on July 24, 2009, 06:14:17 am
Alot of them are watching what mom and dad eat.  If it's not in the house, they can't get to it till they get older.  That way they atleast get a good start.  It just requires a little effort on the parents behalf.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: trop8cana on July 24, 2009, 12:38:30 pm
I think that it is. I have a friend that is overweight and she has a 6 yr old son that is overweight. He weighs 142 lbs. and that's more than I weigh and I'm 29. I think that it's sad when your son thinks that it's a "trick" or some type of special stunt just to be able to get off of the floor and stand up. It's truely sad and how can you say something to a friend that doesn't see the problem? He has really bad asthma and can hardly play long. I think that she's not allowing him to be a child. Her way to keep her kids happy is to feed them whatever they want....it's sad though.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: liljp617 on July 24, 2009, 05:28:18 pm
Let's take the issue a step further:

If you support the idea that this is child abuse or neglect to the point that it's harming the child's well being, do you support the idea of the child being forcefully removed from the home by CPS?
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: RewardCash on July 24, 2009, 05:49:11 pm
Honestly, some parents take it in the perspective of that they are abusing their child if they don't eat when they want to or it can get out of hand. Examples: Child starts begging for certain foods that aren't nutricious, stealing food, crying or even throwing temper tantrums if not eating will slowly eat away at the parents right mind and they will let the eating go on. It's hard to decide on this.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: frisky69 on July 24, 2009, 06:59:43 pm
i definatly think child obesity should be chils abuse
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: home_teachin on July 29, 2009, 10:49:49 am
Let's take the issue a step further:

If you support the idea that this is child abuse or neglect to the point that it's harming the child's well being, do you support the idea of the child being forcefully removed from the home by CPS?

In some instances, Yes I do.
 I agree it's partly the food industry. We have little choice but to feed our kids food full of hormones, chemicals, and preservatives. But you can still control the amount that you allow them to eat while they are young. You can also control the amount of time they spend in front of the TV, computer, and video games.
Some kids are going to be overweight no matter what. But there is a difference between a kid being a little chubby and being hundreds of pounds overweight.
When you risk your child's health by neglecting them, denying food, medical care, education etc. they can be taken from you. I don't see how risking their health by letting them gorge on food would be any different.
You can google Jessica Gaude who weighed 400 lbs at 8 years old, and see what that child went through before she was removed from her mother's home. Or a child named Jared who was 120 lbs at 3 years old until he was taken away from her. He dropped 70 lbs and was able to play like a typical kid.
In most situations when the child is simply overweight, I don't feel like any actions should be taken. You certainly don't want to traumatize the child and lead them to an eating disorder.
However, in those extreme cases where the parents are letting the children eat themselves to death, something has to be done. 
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: keewee1 on July 29, 2009, 11:04:39 am
i definatly think child obesity should be chils abuse
no i dont think obesity is child abuse but some parents need to just watch what they are feeding their kids and think about their health in the future
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: texasmoma69 on July 29, 2009, 11:10:56 am
Defiantly. Its not up to the children what they put in their mouths. Unfortunately in this day and age is all about convenience so its easier after working a 12 hour day to "NUKE" something then to actually cook good nutritional food.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: eSineM on July 30, 2009, 11:42:38 pm
Very well put "home_teachin".  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: pshah1991 on July 31, 2009, 12:16:23 am
There are also cases where obesity is somewhat hereditary. In that case, no, I don't support CS coming to take a kid away from their family.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: piegirl on July 31, 2009, 05:24:31 am
I see that several people so that it is not abuse but that it is neglect.  Im my opinion these are one and the same. 

I think that a parent that allows their child to get extremly overweight is in a sense abusing that child. 

Yet where so we draw that line.  I have 11 year old twins who are chunky and a little overweight.  Yet I feed them a balanced healthy diet.  When they want dessert we have fat free pudding or fat free fudge pops. 

The biggest issue I see with their weight is the fact that they want to sit and read all the time,  I encourage the reading but have begun to see that maybe they need a limit on how many hours that they can sit a read a day.  Thus maybe encourage more physical activities. 

Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: LittleDebbieG on July 31, 2009, 06:18:38 am
Well, having a "fluffy" child is neither neglect nor abuse. However, allowing a child to engorge him/herself on nothing but junk food without exercise to the point of morbid obesity - that's neglect. Allowing a child to become morbidly obese means that there is a neglect, a disconnect, from parental duties.

People can complain about the cost of food all they want, but food is only part of the problem. Nowadays, kids are too complacent to sit inside all day and all night and not do anything. Physical activity can really make the difference. Whether it's just walk outside for 30 minutes, go to the gym, a workout video - anything that gets the body moving works.

home_teachin mentioned a 3-year old named Jared at 120 lbs. I could not find any pictures.. but I don't think that I could imagine the image of a three-year old that weighs more than I do.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: bensonfun on July 31, 2009, 07:56:56 am
I think it depends on the case. Some people are just heavier than others. BUT it is the parents responsibility to try and control what they eat and how much excercise they get. However...I had a kid that would steal food from the kitchen while we were asleep and eat it. Hide the cheese wrappers under his mattress. .... We put a lock on his door and locked him in at night.  :BangHead:
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: acurtsinger2 on July 31, 2009, 08:09:30 am
 sometimes parents use food to soothe a child or baby and put a bottle in their mouth every time they cry, if that is the case, it is child abuse.  But, if a child is truly hungry, it needs to eat and some kids have bigger appetites than others
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/07/22/cb.obesity.crime.cnn

I think so.
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Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: AmyTrivitt on July 31, 2009, 08:18:28 am
Would it be child abuse if your child were say, bulemic or anorexic?
No kids have problems just as well as adults. Some children do carry fat around till they hit puberty.
Again I think no one has the right to judge unless they are going to step in and help.
Our society is so quick to judge people.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: home_teachin on July 31, 2009, 10:27:03 am
home_teachin mentioned a 3-year old named Jared at 120 lbs. I could not find any pictures.. but I don't think that I could imagine the image of a three-year old that weighs more than I do.

Here are some pics of Jared.

http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/183 (http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/183)
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: LittleDebbieG on July 31, 2009, 11:20:55 am
home_teachin mentioned a 3-year old named Jared at 120 lbs. I could not find any pictures.. but I don't think that I could imagine the image of a three-year old that weighs more than I do.

Here are some pics of Jared.

http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/183 (http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/183)

Wow... Just wow.... 120 lbs. According to the follow-up, her parental rights to the child were completely terminated and she won't hear from him until he's 18. I still cannot fathom how these parents let their children get like that. That is sad and a bit scary.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: wflorence on July 31, 2009, 12:11:12 pm
Yeah i think so, parents should watch that and help keep it under control
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: mgarmstrong on July 31, 2009, 12:54:50 pm
Wouldn't a parent that smokes be abusing their child also?  Why should a child have to breath 2nd hand smoke and run those health risks?
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: home_teachin on August 10, 2009, 02:55:46 pm
Wouldn't a parent that smokes be abusing their child also?  Why should a child have to breath 2nd hand smoke and run those health risks?
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I'm surprised this hasn't happened, actually. They have gone as far as banning smoking in bars, where only adults are affected.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: jnthnmclry on August 10, 2009, 05:45:29 pm
not feeding a kid enough nutritious food is a form of abuse.... so i think the feeding them too much of bad stuff is as well.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: kelann1027 on August 10, 2009, 06:17:09 pm
becaful..it can be..people in ri have gone to jail for it..just make sure ur tring to get help by a doctor
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: lightstar240 on August 10, 2009, 09:49:10 pm
I know I'm probably going to get all kinds of crap for this, but.........

Whatever a parent does or does not do to prevent their child from getting obese, it's still the kid's fault for eating the stuff.
There. I said it.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: mlbevins on August 10, 2009, 10:32:49 pm
I don't think that is child abuse, nor neglect.  What coud you possilbly do to a parent that does not control their childs eating habits.  I have the belief that their eating habits start when they are an infant.  If you over feed them then, more than likely they will overeat the rest of their life.  Not saying that it is so that is just how I feel about it.  With my son I made sure that he ate the foods that the doctor recommended at the right age and so far he is not overweight like myself, and I hope that he never has an overweight problem.  My mother always monitored what we ate and my sister and I still had a weight problem.  In our case I feel that our weight issues stem from our Dad's family many of them are overweight, and no one really over eats excessively.  For whatever reason, recently in our country people believe that they need to control the actions of everyone and make them do what they are suppose to.  That is not going to happen and I think that this is one of those situation where you need to ask how far is too far.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: Freeman352 on August 11, 2009, 01:46:26 pm
I think it falls more under child neglect...a mother got charge with child neglect..something like that. Her son is i think 14 weights 530 lbs.

Yeah it is neglect...same thing as if the child was extremely underweight/underfed. Its the parents' failure to provide the child with *proper* nutrition, exercise, and health care. The kid may have a medical condition but Im pretty sure 99% of these conditions can be at least treated if the parent follows dr's orders & gets medication, etc.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: doomrocks on August 11, 2009, 03:07:19 pm
Definitely neglectful.

And just so sad. Starting patterns and behaviors that will so hard for that child to break free from later in life.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: eSineM on August 21, 2009, 01:26:13 am
They need to take some kinda drastic measures tho...cause parents will never learn.. "Oh he was crying for it"   :BangHead:
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: extinct on August 21, 2009, 09:33:56 am
companies need to make money, and kids like the food so they eat it. its no ones fault but the kid's do you really belive they think cake is good for them?no they know its not but they like it anyway
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: 5patti5 on August 21, 2009, 01:17:19 pm
I think if it is a cause of neglect.. or the parent being irresponsible and there are no medical reasons that contribute or cause it than yes it is abuse.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: mlholmes on January 14, 2010, 12:19:47 pm
Yes it is a terrible thing.. It's the world we live in.. Take a look around you and see the difference from 10 years ago... :icon_rr:
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: mlholmes on January 14, 2010, 12:31:49 pm
I don't think that is child abuse, nor neglect.  What coud you possilbly do to a parent that does not control their childs eating habits.  I have the belief that their eating habits start when they are an infant.  If you over feed them then, more than likely they will overeat the rest of their life.  Not saying that it is so that is just how I feel about it.  With my son I made sure that he ate the foods that the doctor recommended at the right age and so far he is not overweight like myself, and I hope that he never has an overweight problem.  My mother always monitored what we ate and my sister and I still had a weight problem.  In our case I feel that our weight issues stem from our Dad's family many of them are overweight, and no one really over eats excessively.  For whatever reason, recently in our country people believe that they need to control the actions of everyone and make them do what they are suppose to.  That is not going to happen and I think that this is one of those situation where you need to ask how far is too far.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: klutzycutie on January 14, 2010, 12:36:07 pm
hmm

i dunno. i mean if they become very overweight then maybe

i mean wouldnt u know if ur child is over weight?

sometimes it could be just some decease..i heard that it can happen with ur thyroids

however i mean i know that parents want to spoil them

if so and then they see their child getting over weight and help to get them back under then not so much

cuz they are preventing anything worse

...it goes both ways i guess.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: lbeery on January 14, 2010, 02:29:38 pm
Well, that depenns on the kid and the situation.  Some kids seem to get around what ever efforts are made on their behalf. With some, there may not be enough money to get the proper med attention. But, 530 lbs is shame and for an adult or a child.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: lizzle187 on January 14, 2010, 02:38:25 pm
The parent is responsible for 3 things. When a child eats, where a child eats, and what a child eats. it is the childs choice of how much or little they eat. If you stuff your kids with twinkies and fast food then yes. If you have a balanced meal then there is no problem. Don't worry, if you give your child something they don't like, they won't starve themselves!
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: davel977 on January 14, 2010, 05:21:50 pm
It probably is, because, i mean, you don't want your kid to die just because you let him to overeat right? :dontknow:
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: BrwnAngeleyes25 on January 14, 2010, 07:38:23 pm
No but yes. If your childs happy and your happy. But if health becomes an issue then yea i think its a border line issue. Of where it become abuse and where its still okay.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: Storm61115 on January 15, 2010, 06:34:58 pm
yes dude, if ur giving into ur kid.. letting them eat as much calories as they want without working it off and sitting them in front of the tv is child abuse.dude, get ur kid to go outside a play..work off those highly dangerous amounts or calories and prevent them from getting childhood diabetes from being obsese. what's wrong with these parents? dont they want their kids to have a heathy weight?? i would.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: tsubasa731 on January 15, 2010, 07:06:45 pm
well, it really depends on the surcumstances
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: jongarton on January 15, 2010, 07:19:57 pm
is obesity child abuse?.... good question but in my humble opinion it is not child abuse because at least children who are obese are being fed in this country! There are instances in this country where people (not only children) who go to bed without a meal and every time WE turn on the news some tragedy in a neighboring country is getting help! If the U.S. is so high on helping other countries with their problems WHY are so many people out of work? Some can't find jobs and are committing desperate acts just so they can have a place to sleep @ night! Look At majority of PRISON population. There are a lot of people who have committed a crime just so they can eat and sleep @taxpayers expenses! Child abuse/neglect are too very different things and most people just turn a blind eye to both!
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: Ayulyn on January 18, 2010, 02:45:24 pm
I think it might be considered child neglect/abuse if your child is severely overweight and you just keep fueling it. I mean, some people look at it like they just want their children to be happy and will do whatever it takes to make them happy but at some point you have to come out of denial and realize that your child is going to die at a young age if you don't raise them and teach them to properly take care of themselves.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: ancmetro on February 14, 2010, 08:27:57 am
  :)  Yes, I think it is...and many institutions are somehow responsible for this tragedy!
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: mamasboy on February 14, 2010, 01:51:15 pm
My nephew is severely obese and my sister was turned into childrens services for neglect.  She was court ordered to take him to a nutritionist once a month. So, yes, I do think that it is.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: karenkpc on February 14, 2010, 03:39:29 pm
I believe it's neglect before the age where a child can make his/her own food choices, such as that 3 year mentioned earlier in the thread.  if the child has been tested for all medical possibilities (thyroid, juvenile diabetes, etc) for obesity, then it seems to me something's not being handled properly at home with the child's available nutritional choices.  I helped raise a child who was built like a brick house to begin with and had to closely monitor him for the line between his build and being overweight (not easy).  ultimately we worked continually at making subtle changes or eliminations in his diet, and it worked well, to the point where he would eat anything that was healthy and junk food began to make him feel sick anytime he ate it.  it can be done.  it's discipline and education on everyone's part, beginning with the parent and translating to the child as age appropriate. 
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: HouseOfAnimals on February 14, 2010, 04:03:53 pm
It is indeed the caregivers' (parent, guardian, etc.) responsibility to provide adequate nutrition.  If the child suffers greater illness or disease due to obesity, it's child abuse, in the same way that starving a child is child abuse.    :crybaby2:
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: MorbidRaccoon on February 14, 2010, 04:13:26 pm
It depends on how much the parents leave the child up to personal choice. I mean, if he eats a little more then average that should be alright. If he eats to the point that it could harm his well being, like 4,000+ calories a day, that's different. If your kid picked up a crack pipe you would step in for sure and take it from him, well being fat will have about the same effect on your heart if you weren't originally big-boned or large.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: eSineM on February 14, 2010, 04:38:30 pm
Great point, Morbid.

Also I think parents who Smoke Cigs around theirs or any kids should be charged with "Child Endangerment".. WHo agrees?
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: dell9031 on February 14, 2010, 06:55:40 pm
it is if your fat and you fall on a kid.....
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: mommadixon on February 16, 2010, 05:25:55 pm
Definitely that is one the worst things we as parents can do to our children you are killing them too soon it is unfair to them.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: lisad717 on February 16, 2010, 07:24:06 pm
I think that it kinda is. Its the parents fault for letting there child continue to eat themselves to becoming obese
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: GoGoKokiGo on February 17, 2010, 01:11:39 am
Not if done unintentionally. Some people just don't know any better. They can learn otherwise and hopefully they will. But unhealthy eating is passed down, almost in a hereditary way. That would be like saying male pattern baldness is abuse (if it could kill you). And that coupled with the ever popular dollar menus, there is no way you can win. But I believe there is change going on, people are learning healthier ways of eating. So no I don't think it's abuse, it's just lack of knowledge.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: tjeffers on February 17, 2010, 11:44:46 am
it all depends on the way the parent feels....  some children there is a way for it not to happen at all.... but at the other side of the field is the child going threw rough times????
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: cowgirlx on February 18, 2010, 10:47:05 am
YES.  I have a step son that is 11 and wayyyy over 100# he is just one size away from wearing the same size his dad does.  His mom, who is maybe 5'3 easily tips the scale well over 300 prob closer to 400, is in total denial and says he looks fine.  They are so heavy there that she, and her 3 sons had to get a station wagon because they couldn't all fit comfortabley into a sedan.  the kids are 3, 7 and 11 how sad is that?????  All 4 of my kids can comfortably sit in the back set, belts and all.  The kids are  10, 11, 6, and 3, and all with in healthy weights.  We try to help the two older boys, but the second we turn our backs they will eat anything they can get their hands on.The oldest brags about being able to eat a medium  pizza form pizza hut, and eating a box of cereal for breakfast.  We are at a loss, he is being told that it is ok...( food stamps pay for it, why should she care).  So yes I do think it is definately neglect and abuse too
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: angel379227 on February 18, 2010, 01:46:34 pm
I think people should mind their own business.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: gesus on February 18, 2010, 09:22:15 pm
Abuse ?? ehhhh idk , overfeeding yeah , i cant see how parents have the time to give their kid all that food in the first place
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: danielv88 on February 18, 2010, 09:22:46 pm
yes it is..
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: msmayhem247 on February 19, 2010, 09:34:06 am
In some cases yes and then in some cases no. Some people allow their children to become obese because they do not know any better. It just depends on the situation.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: trujillo33 on February 19, 2010, 10:26:30 am
I wouldnt thinks so because a lot of parents would be charge with the crime. However, i watch or heard that a mother was charge with child abuse because her son was obese. I think he was 10 or 11 and already weigh 400 lbs.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: mstout1221 on February 19, 2010, 12:34:00 pm
It all depends on how it comes about bc I know someone who is overweight but is very active and trying to eat right. Sometimes its just in the genetics.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: jasmine91 on February 19, 2010, 03:32:28 pm
i dont think so
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: iitallia on February 19, 2010, 05:16:44 pm
no i dont think so
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: badfollower on February 20, 2010, 04:58:11 am
Unless it is a medical condition, I believe it is child abuse. Many of my friends as a child were overweight but their parents worked with them to eat healthy foods and lose unneeded weight but there were a few who just ate whatever they wanted and their parents never cared. They thought they were the best treated children and so did everyone else at the time but they were the ones who always came home to an empty house and took care of themselves. I view that as neglectful child abuse.
You are sooo right!
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: Dremarr on February 20, 2010, 10:20:07 am
It should be taken on a case by case basis. Some parents don't have a choice in providing healthy choices in food due to lack of money,education, etc. It is child abuse when the parents have complete control over what their children can eat and yet choose to always offer unhealthy alternatives.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: judystancato on February 20, 2010, 10:36:56 am
It is my opinion that it IS a form of abuse. In this day and age we are aware or what is and isnt healthy for our bodies. It seems that in about 95% of the cases, if the child is overweight so is one or both of the parents. As adults, we are responsible for what we consume but the child has no say. It is abuse to intentionally feed a child unhealthy foods.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: thanhkle2003 on February 20, 2010, 05:13:24 pm
In extreme cases, the Parents are responsible for the this matter. Child obesity leads to many adolesent problems. I think parents should  be held responsible for this and mandate to take nutrition courses. If their childs condition does not improve, can cannot stop taking the courses. There should be a center to see these children and check on their progress. We spend lots of money on welfare and other programs. We can start a pilot program for obesity.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: gafee2001 on February 21, 2010, 07:01:21 am
Nope. If the kid wants to eat healthy, tell the mom to buy healthier food.  Buying food at the grocery store is MUCH cheaper than buying fast food.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: arrwyn on February 21, 2010, 10:06:29 am
abuse, neglect, and just laziness. If they would get off their couches and take their kids to the park, they probably wouldn't put much weight on. 

Cowgirlx, you obviously did not watch the video.  The woman works THREE SHIFTS and due to this necessity is seldom at home but at 10 years of age, this boy should have had the personal discretion NOT to eat everything in sight.  Besides, there is a genetic marker here as well.  Look at how heavy the mother is.  The boy's metabolism is probably slow and most of his excess weight is probably fats as the video says he is not particularly drawn to sweets.  Yes, she may be "guilty" of neglect in getting a metabolic disorder addressed, but she is working poor and probably a single parent.  The legal age at which a child can be left alone in South Carolina is 8 years old!  That means for a working mother once he was 8 years old she did not HAVE to have a babysitter for him once he reached the age of 8.  In my estimation that is too young and all the proper training she could have given him up to that point may have gone right out the window.  She DID try to get him into a program to bring his weight down but WAS TURNED AWAY by the program because the boy was so grossly over weight they couldn't handle him.

Being charged with criminal neglect is just another case of the state trying to rule every moment of our lives.  Big Brother is watching!
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: eSineM on February 22, 2010, 03:12:50 am
Great discussions going on in here!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: cowgirlx on February 24, 2010, 07:56:27 am
abuse, neglect, and just laziness. If they would get off their couches and take their kids to the park, they probably wouldn't put much weight on. 

Cowgirlx, you obviously did not watch the video.  The woman works THREE SHIFTS and due to this necessity is seldom at home but at 10 years of age, this boy should have had the personal discretion NOT to eat everything in sight.  Besides, there is a genetic marker here as well.  Look at how heavy the mother is.  The boy's metabolism is probably slow and most of his excess weight is probably fats as the video says he is not particularly drawn to sweets.  Yes, she may be "guilty" of neglect in getting a metabolic disorder addressed, but she is working poor and probably a single parent.  The legal age at which a child can be left alone in South Carolina is 8 years old!  That means for a working mother once he was 8 years old she did not HAVE to have a babysitter for him once he reached the age of 8.  In my estimation that is too young and all the proper training she could have given him up to that point may have gone right out the window.  She DID try to get him into a program to bring his weight down but WAS TURNED AWAY by the program because the boy was so grossly over weight they couldn't handle him.

Being charged with criminal neglect is just another case of the state trying to rule every moment of our lives.  Big Brother is watching!

I wasn't refering to that specific situation.  I was refering to the majority of situations.  There are always exceptions to the rule.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: jongarton on February 24, 2010, 10:31:31 am
alright I have posted on this before and would like to chime in again! Granted most people would probably think I am crazy for saying this but how many social workers do you see taking psychology classes for their job? How many neighborhood gyms cater to adults who have been diagnosed as  "obese" I'm not seeing new gyms or other type businesses get grants from the government to help with these problems. What I am seeing is our government trying to drain the poor businesses out of money and just standing back and watching big business run rampant! Our economy is in a struggle with itself right now! here is a way to reduce problems: 1) put the car keys down and pick up a bicycle. 2) Ask president Obama for a small business grant to start a gym or exercise facility in your home town! 3) actively campaign for "obese" people to join your work out groups or facilities! 4) Be positive about others needs and don't criticize others for their unfortunate situations, embrace them for WHO they are and not their physical characteristics!
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: modestmama82 on February 24, 2010, 10:39:49 am
define abuse...if you mean is it healthy to allow a child to exist in a manner that could shorten their life without tryin to help remedy the situation....maybe it is.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: Loltopia on February 24, 2010, 06:56:54 pm
Well, obesity can just be poor genetics. An endomorph marrying an endomorph will result in an endomorph, in the same way two homogenous people with brown eyes will have brown eyed kids as well. However, letting your kid get really fat and unwieldy is just poor parenting -- not child abuse, just bad parenting. You can't really call it child abuse without calling ALL forms of poor parenting child abuse, which is going a bit over the top.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: cowgirlx on February 25, 2010, 09:10:48 am
Well, obesity can just be poor genetics. An endomorph marrying an endomorph will result in an endomorph, in the same way two homogenous people with brown eyes will have brown eyed kids as well. However, letting your kid get really fat and unwieldy is just poor parenting -- not child abuse, just bad parenting. You can't really call it child abuse without calling ALL forms of poor parenting child abuse, which is going a bit over the top.
When you look at it that way, it is also a very good point.  I guess we would have to base it on each case individually.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: madeara on March 02, 2010, 05:00:44 am
Obesity certainly is child abuse.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: arms1977 on March 15, 2010, 09:56:24 pm
I think childhood obesity is a problem, but I do not think ut should be treated as abuse. Sometimes the child has health conditions thatcause them to be big. Other times the parents do allow them to overeat, but abuse is taking it to the extreme. I pack a healthy lunch for my child everyday for school. I am not at the lunch table with him, so I have no idea what he is really eating. I know when he is in my home he eats his vegetables and does not get "too much" to eat, yet he is above average in weight for his age bracket. His father was very much obese until he was about 18 years old and I come from a long line of big people. My son is very active in sports and he also has a wii fit. I do not force him to exercise becasue I do not want him to develope a fat complex, but I do encouragehim to eat healthier and be active. By saying that I am abusing my child because he is chubby is redicu;ous. I pack him a turkey sandwhich, apple slices, a juice box, and grapes almost every day. If he goes to xchool and trades that for junk food, it is out of my control. I cannot do anything about things I cannot see. I do take him to his doctor regularly and have had his thyroid checked several times. His doctor says he should lose a bit of weight, but most of it will come off as he gets older. Sorry everyone, but I trust the doctor on this one. We can encourage our children to make the right choices when it comes to food, feed them heathy meals at home, and encourage exercise, but when it comes down to it, we may have a chubby child, but it is certainly not from abuse.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: jylianhunt on April 05, 2010, 05:03:46 pm
if the child is at a high rate of obesity and the parent is letting the child eat and be un groomed and is very unhealthy yes i think it would be abuse.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: sgluckadoo on April 05, 2010, 06:46:09 pm
yes and no... somethings cant be helped, but some can. if a child is not being given healthy diets then it is the parents fault!
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: wildinero on April 14, 2010, 08:37:34 am
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/07/22/cb.obesity.crime.cnn

I think so.
yes absoluty parents has to be care the child
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: sflynt on September 08, 2010, 03:11:02 pm
abuse, neglect, and just laziness. If they would get off their couches and take their kids to the park, they probably wouldn't put much weight on.  I personally have issues with getting my kids to come in to eat. At 9 and 10 they are very lean, but eat like little piggies. Then they go out and burn it off again.

Absolutely. parents are just plain lazy these days.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: tzs on September 08, 2010, 08:05:50 pm
The other day, I walked outside to see 4 kids, 3 of them where riding bikes, and the 4th one was running behind them, yelling at them to slow down. When they all met up with eachother, this little kid started huffin and puffin and saying "dang, slow down man, I can't keep up. Dang......Dang!"  This little boy, anywhere between 8-10 yrs old was severely overweight, and I have seen his parents, they are overweight too.  So yes, If you don't take your kid to the doctor to find out if he has a "glandular problem", and he keeps gaining weight being that young, I'd say its abuse, because children do not understand why they are the way they are, parents should be the one to enforce good eating habits, and take care of their children correctly. I was litterally worried that this kid was going to have a heart attack, or pass out!!!  He should be able to play with his friends whithout all of the huffing and puffing. Once they do get old enough to understand, the feelings begin to hurt-ALOT!!! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: ktheodos on November 13, 2010, 09:38:57 am
I wouldn't say abuse, unless someone is being forced to eat..yes, some people have predispositions to eating a lot, but that doesn't mean you'll be obese
because of it.....and eating is a choice as much as it is a habit.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: anguyen21 on November 13, 2010, 12:09:36 pm
It's unfortunate, but it depends on the case.  Some households have 2 working parents and live in neighborhoods where there is a lack of grocery stores.  Without a grocery stores many parents and children have to make due with what is close by like a 7-eleven or a fast food restaurant.  Obese cases just aren't as black and white as one would expect.  :dontknow:
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: ninajay on November 13, 2010, 03:52:33 pm
It depends on many factors like genetics, but in many cases I think it can be considered child abuse. If a parent is constantly feeding their child unhealthy foods, they are putting the child's health at risk. It's not a good thing to depend on fast foods and snacks out of convenience.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: Tiffanywins on November 13, 2010, 04:00:42 pm
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/07/22/cb.obesity.crime.cnn

I think so.
:wave: I would not say that it is abuse, though it depends on situation. Now say someone's mom forced him/her to eat junk food all the time so he /she would get really fat, i would probably say yes, its abuse, ontthe other hand if it was YOUR decision to eat a TON of junk food, than no, it aint.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: Sweetpea94 on November 13, 2010, 06:54:00 pm
I'm not sure what to think on this topic.  I think parents should control what their children eat or I guess I should say THey should try to feed them nutritional foods.  Junk food on occassion is fine but in moderation.  My 8 yr old is overweight due to a thyroid problem, so I'm careful not to judge other parents when I see an overweight child, because you really never know the circumstances. 
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: raven1114 on April 14, 2011, 10:21:51 pm
i think it depends on why they are overweight and also how much over weight they are. because a child is going through a pudgy stage that will eventually even out once they hit a growth spurt then no that's not abuse. if it's due to a medical reason then no. if however you have a 10 year old that weighs 200 lbs for no reason other than you allowing them to load up on pizza and ho-ho's then yes that's abuse.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: tdsantiago1 on April 15, 2011, 07:56:29 am
 :bs:A child that is obesed that is child abuse, because you are telling the world that you dont cared for that childs health or life. :star:
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: healthfreedom on May 03, 2011, 08:25:58 pm
I think it's awful when a parent does nothing to curb or correct the obesity of a child.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: squirrelgirl44 on May 03, 2011, 08:52:02 pm
I think it's awful when a parent does nothing to curb or correct the obesity of a child.

I agree with this.

I think it is important to teach their children what is healthy and how to incorporate healthy behavior into their lives.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: matney87 on May 04, 2011, 08:34:27 pm
i think its more child abuse than anything
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: bjohnson16 on May 08, 2011, 06:13:30 am
I think that parents need to take a look at their children and understand that they need to teach children to eat healthy and to exercise but you have to also understand that children gain weight for many reason not all them parents fault.  My son is at a good weight and eats what is gmeood for him.  But it is because we do this in our own home.  Also when a child get to a age were you are not with them all the time youwould can not control what they are eatting.  It would be like saying that parents are responsible for children with eatting disorders.  Or it could be a health condition that is causing the problem.  So before you can say it is bad you need to know the whole story.  Alot about eating is about educationing everyone about good eatting habits and health education.  Having been a little overweight when I was younger, I can't say that I think my parents did anything wrong.  But I do remember my mom always telling me to watch my eatting. Well all it did was make me not care about they side it made it worse. 
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: debrabassler on May 09, 2011, 03:29:22 am
 I would not say abuse,cause there are a lot of different circumstances that we all need to look at and think about.Genetics has alot do with it,but you can do something to help out so that does not effect your child that way.myself i have always had to watch what i eat and do a lot of exercises and work outs ,so that i didn't end up obesity being a problem.cause you have all body types small boned frames,med bone frames ,big boned frames.
and being poor has  alot to do with it,cause you can't buy what you want,you buy what you can to make sure you have enough food to last a month.
food prices are getting so high.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: diala84 on May 11, 2011, 10:52:52 am
I could be neglect or lack of education or stress. Obese parents may not know how to raise a child that is healthier especially if there is limited physical activity in the household. I still think it is the parents responsibility but there need to be programs out there to teach about good eating and exercise habit. We are not born with this knowledge and it is easy to have addictive tendencies for the wrong types of food. If the parent knows better it is neglect. If the parent is eating the same way then it is stress, education, socioeconomic status or stress that contributes to this lifestyle.
Title: Re: Is obesity child abuse?
Post by: britcrawford on May 22, 2011, 04:11:54 pm
that is a good question. i have never thought of that before.. but i would say yes, in a way it is! either abuse or child neglect