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Title: Let me clear up some nonsense
Post by: hitch0403 on September 16, 2014, 01:06:51 pm
As i survey the many topics......

Unwanted pregnancys,disease,children growing up without parents.....this is safe sex?This is the result of the marriage bed being defiled.God is not one to be mocked.Whatever one sows is what they reap.

Everything happens for a reason.Boy do i think that statement is silly.Hmmm....so god is sitting at his controls saying...i guess ill kill this 1 in a car accident....let this 1 survive cancer....get the point?I dont think God is a puppeteer and we are his puppets.Time and unforseen occurrence befalls everyone.

We will all be happy after death.This saying another joke.Bible clearly shows death is an enemy and unnatural.Death is a state of unwoken sleep says bible.No bliss....no sufferering.Yet i see many preach this BS.

Yes i am a watchdog for truth.
Title: Re: Let me clear up some nonsense
Post by: CharmedPhoenix on September 16, 2014, 02:38:00 pm
This nonsense belongs in Debate and Discuss.  :silly: ???
Title: Re: Let me clear up some nonsense
Post by: vp44 on September 16, 2014, 03:17:51 pm
Everything does happen for a reason. Person died of cancer, reason being they had cancer. Sometimes when people rant they tend to not make any sense. Good luck with your watchdog for the truth and I hope you do not sleep over it. LOL
Title: Re: Let me clear up some nonsense
Post by: hitch0403 on September 16, 2014, 05:32:02 pm
Case and point!!

My apologies....right about D&D...

VP.....everything happens for a reason.Someone smoked all their life dies of lung cancer...agreed...it happened cos of that.

You know as well as i do that statement is made cos many feel god is controlling us as i mentioned..as puppets.Otherwise of course everything happenes for a reason.A drunk gets into an accident driving cos he was drunk.

I guess many believe in fate.Pre-destined etc.
Title: Re: Let me clear up some nonsense
Post by: hitch0403 on September 16, 2014, 06:02:40 pm
You take the temperature of the world by those responses?

EZ to see why the world being held together by a band-aid!
Title: Re: Let me clear up some nonsense
Post by: JediJohnnie on September 17, 2014, 01:47:14 am
Everything does happen for a reason.Sometimes God uses the worst of circumstances to achieve a positive outcome.The greatest example of course,is Christ's death.The most unjust and brutal of acts yielded the greatest of God's blessings for us.
Title: Re: Let me clear up some nonsense
Post by: nannycoe1 on September 17, 2014, 04:36:02 am
Wow! I think you should go to some other kind of blog to talk about Your beliefs!
Title: Re: Let me clear up some nonsense
Post by: lywb2168 on September 17, 2014, 06:26:50 am
Everything happens for a reason, and since I choose to believe in God, he has his reasons to do what he does, he has plans for all of us, but we all have free will and sometimes make the wrong decisions for the wrong reasons.  It is complete up to you to decide if it is good or bad.
Title: Re: Let me clear up some nonsense
Post by: hitch0403 on September 17, 2014, 12:26:30 pm
There are discussions in every topic.I didnt put this up for debate because there is NOTHING to debate.

If you wanna support pre-marital sex thats your decision.
If you wanna support God controlling your life thats your decision.
If you wanna support at death your spirit winds up on Mars or something like that thats your decision.

I am in agreement that the Creator will answer prayers said as long as they are said within the manner he accepts them.
JJ remember Jesus still had to accept what his father asked him to do and because of his love for mankind and his father he did.

And when i use the bible to support my statements i am always glad to show you where it is in the book.Ask and i am glad to show you.
Title: Re: Let me clear up some nonsense
Post by: hawkeye3210 on September 17, 2014, 01:42:19 pm
The belief that everything happens for a reason is simply a coping mechanism that people use when bad things happen.
Title: Re: Let me clear up some nonsense
Post by: JediJohnnie on September 17, 2014, 02:00:06 pm
There are discussions in every topic.I didnt put this up for debate because there is NOTHING to debate.

If you wanna support pre-marital sex thats your decision.
If you wanna support God controlling your life thats your decision.
If you wanna support at death your spirit winds up on Mars or something like that thats your decision.

I am in agreement that the Creator will answer prayers said as long as they are said within the manner he accepts them.
JJ remember Jesus still had to accept what his father asked him to do and because of his love for mankind and his father he did.

And when i use the bible to support my statements i am always glad to show you where it is in the book.Ask and i am glad to show you.

I guess what you are saying is you don't believe in pre-destination.It's not really a black & white issue,but I don't think people are "made" to do anything either.That would go against Free Will that God gave us.

But,I'm talking about things like the story of Joseph.His brothers meant to do evil to him by selling him into slavery,but God allowed that for the purpose of bringing Joseph to a better place from which to help his family.So that should be an inspiration to us all that God can take even the darkest of circumstances and use it for good.
Title: Re: Let me clear up some nonsense
Post by: hitch0403 on September 17, 2014, 02:03:43 pm
Hawkeye i am in agreement with that.Using it as a crutch sorta.

Which again is understandable.

Jesus was in so much agony he asks his father,"why have you forsaken me"........to be in that position we react at the time to how we feel.

I bring up the scripture in Eccl 8"9 all the time.....time and unforseen occurrence befalling us all......wrong place wrong time instead of blaming god etc like so many do.
Title: Re: Let me clear up some nonsense
Post by: JediJohnnie on September 17, 2014, 02:03:56 pm
The belief that everything happens for a reason is simply a coping mechanism that people use when bad things happen.

By that same token,you can say unbelief in God is a coping mechanism for people who do not want to accept the Word of God.
Title: Re: Let me clear up some nonsense
Post by: hitch0403 on September 17, 2014, 02:10:40 pm
JJ i understand what you are saying.I am in agreement that God will allow or plan things to happen for his purpose etc.

Lets look at Jonah situation.The Ninevites repented and heeded warning from God.God allowed Jonah to be swallowed by whale to teach him a lesson too.

Jesus warned others when they see Roman armies encamped to leave Jerusalem.In 66 ce it happened.Faithful followers heeded his words.Those that didnt died or were captured in 70 ce.

So i guess what i am trying to get across here is cos of free will our decisions factor also what happens instead of God causing all of it.
Title: Re: Let me clear up some nonsense
Post by: hitch0403 on September 17, 2014, 02:20:52 pm
Lots wife was warned NOT to look back at Sodom.She didnt have to die.She dis-obeyed.We know the result she was turned into a pillar of salt.God didnt cause her to look back.Her desire did.

Many other cases too.

Like u said JJ what good would free will do God if he pre-destined everything?Plus dont you think he would rather us love him cos we did....would it be love if we were robots or pre-programmed?
Title: Re: Let me clear up some nonsense
Post by: mill8277 on September 17, 2014, 02:22:21 pm
Bad things happen to good people, good things happen to bad people all the time.....we have to love and be there for each other, not sure where it was written in the bible, but the scrips says.....

  If a man say, “I love God,” and hateth his brother, he is a liar. For he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? I think it may be 1 John 4/20.....

I can't prove there is a God, but I can see my fellow man every where and don't take time to say hello.....we all have free will even if we don't know it...we make our own decisions every day......

I'm not sure what your post was in reference to...but people have the right to live like they choose as long as they don't hurt someone else.....then the law gets involved and who know what will happen upon death....
Title: Re: Let me clear up some nonsense
Post by: hitch0403 on September 17, 2014, 02:39:45 pm
Mill are you aware that many in this world justify the evil they do?You wanna quote the bible but then say people can live as they want as long as they dont hurt anyone.Well again i ask you RU aware many justify their evil?

So i guess  what we need here is a government that is righteous.Mankind certainly has proven he cant figure it out.God has given him time to do so.You see the results.

If you go back you will see my original posts were NOT in support for...

Pre-marital sex
God treating us as robots or puppets
False teachings of death

Title: Re: Let me clear up some nonsense
Post by: hawkeye3210 on September 17, 2014, 03:42:27 pm
The belief that everything happens for a reason is simply a coping mechanism that people use when bad things happen.

By that same token,you can say unbelief in God is a coping mechanism for people who do not want to accept the Word of God.

That's not a coping mechanism, that's just logical. The same way that someone who accepts the word of God, also believes in God.