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Title: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: oterojulia09 on August 06, 2009, 04:25:01 pm
When i was little my guardians used to tell me and my siblings that if we said the word demons that they would always appear.  They told us so many ghost stories but im still a little confused if it is all true cause they actually had converted their garage into a church
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: liljp617 on August 06, 2009, 10:41:27 pm
Perhaps your guardians need a therapist.  I was recently told I'm a sick *bleep* by someone here (lol).  What's more sick than indoctrinating ignorant, young children with pure crap like this?

Demons exist about as much as leprechauns, pixies, unicorns, giant spaghetti monsters, and Dolly the all-seeing, all-knowing giant tortoise that orbits the Earth....
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: Tamika32 on August 06, 2009, 10:53:44 pm
I believe that they do exist in humans that have negativity in their lives.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: tenoka3 on August 06, 2009, 11:01:16 pm
Demons are most commonly referred and known as spirits. Evil spirits. Nothing like the sorts of Leprechauns, and fairies.
Greek mythology was to be believed that Demons reigned among humans, and were independent of any deity and were to be able to influence humans.
Plato believed that they could determine the fate of humans. The Bible talks about Demons alot. Demons belonging to all-evil ruler Satan.
Some believe that in any sense a Demon is just a thing. Something that holds you back, or can bind you. Others literally believe that there is a spiritual, evil being. I fall under this belief. There is a spiritual realm that exists. I'm not talking about Ghosts and such. But another kind. I wouldn't go as far as to say that if you mention the word "demon", you will be haunted, followed, possessed by one. But I do believe they exist. They are not something to enchance your life, or fate in a good way, something that is Demonic is purely Evil. Your Guardians were also cruel to tell you such things. Maybe they should have been a little more sensitive to you as a child.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: bschumacher on August 06, 2009, 11:08:09 pm
Demons exist only in the diseased, evil minds of people who would be cruel enough to torment innocent children with this sick nonsense.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: eSineM on August 07, 2009, 01:34:28 am
Scare tactic used by the Bible :angry7:

altho I do believe in Ghosts...because i have seen em, but i personally think it is Aliens hehe or could just be energy coming from humans.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: liljp617 on August 07, 2009, 08:20:21 am
Demons are most commonly referred and known as spirits. Evil spirits. Nothing like the sorts of Leprechauns, and fairies.

Precisely like leprechauns and fairies -- mythical creatures made up by people, in this case, to put fear into others and to fill the gaps of knowledge, along with making up some irrational explanation for why "bad" things happen in the world when the only legitimate explanation is that it's simply nature.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: Shadowsol93 on August 07, 2009, 08:52:34 am
I personally believe in the existence of demons, not as modern religion sees them (ie. as being controlled by one powerful ruler), but more as the individualized demons of past Japanese culture (aka Oni or Akuma). As for ghosts, yes I believe they exist. Seen them (and had the living crap scared out of me) one too many times to rationalize the experiences.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: cashmonny13 on August 07, 2009, 09:31:35 am
I personally believe in the existence of demons, not as modern religion sees them (ie. as being controlled by one powerful ruler), but more as the individualized demons of past Japanese culture (aka Oni or Akuma). As for ghosts, yes I believe they exist. Seen them (and had the living crap scared out of me) one too many times to rationalize the experiences.


You took all the words right from me. I've seen them too..scares the shizz outta me  :o
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: savenger4 on August 07, 2009, 12:18:57 pm
I think that there are angels and demons.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: Falconer02 on August 07, 2009, 12:26:39 pm
"Demons exist about as much as leprechauns, pixies, unicorns, giant spaghetti monsters, and Dolly the all-seeing, all-knowing giant tortoise that orbits the Earth...."

Perfectly said. But I believe demons aren't supernatural like the OP believes. I think you can refer to them as psychotic and dangerous people the same way you can refer to someone who does great things for people as an 'angel'. Just my .02 on this.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: savenger4 on August 07, 2009, 12:38:32 pm
people should research shamanism.  shamans believe that some spirits are good and some are evil.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: liljp617 on August 08, 2009, 07:54:39 pm
"Demons exist about as much as leprechauns, pixies, unicorns, giant spaghetti monsters, and Dolly the all-seeing, all-knowing giant tortoise that orbits the Earth...."

Perfectly said. But I believe demons aren't supernatural like the OP believes. I think you can refer to them as psychotic and dangerous people the same way you can refer to someone who does great things for people as an 'angel'. Just my .02 on this.

Well that would be a legitimate form of expression in describing a person.  Although I prefer saying those kinds of people are simply exhibiting what we perceive to be negative forces of nature.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: Gemz09 on August 08, 2009, 08:03:17 pm
I would say maybe if we die there we will know if there's really an angesl and demons :angel12:
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: AmyTrivitt on August 09, 2009, 12:11:55 am
Demons appear in most addicts. I know this from NA meetings that I went to years and years back. I was fighting the demons within myself. I dont care who says this is not true because I bealived it. Demons is mostly a state of mind for the weak, which I was at the time. Demons could be many forms of problems in individuals, not just addiction. I do not in any way say the demons made me do the drugs. I did but as I like to say the demons awoke inside of me.
I dont understand why someone would say that to you and im sorry you went through that as a child.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: liljp617 on August 09, 2009, 12:24:21 am
Demons appear in most addicts. I know this from NA meetings that I went to years and years back. I was fighting the demons within myself. I dont care who says this is not true because I bealived it. Demons is mostly a state of mind for the weak, which I was at the time. Demons could be many forms of problems in individuals, not just addiction. I do not in any way say the demons made me do the drugs. I did but as I like to say the demons awoke inside of me.
I dont understand why someone would say that to you and im sorry you went through that as a child.

Chemical imbalances in the mind; electricity in the brain gone bad.  If you want to call those demons, fair enough.

The opening post is implying there are actual supernatural, physical beings called demons that hurt people.  Childish nonsense.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: eSineM on August 09, 2009, 02:42:42 am
lil ur dead on  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: ancmetro on August 09, 2009, 05:14:31 am
Yes, I believe they exist because they tempt us to harm ourselves or others. Sometimes you just have to walk away from hellish situations.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: eSineM on August 09, 2009, 02:29:19 pm
Yeah cause its impossible for the human mind to commit 'sinful acts'

Lulz

My parents are jehovahwitness, and they believe Demons can actually come thru the TV, and Music CDs xD
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: AmyTrivitt on August 09, 2009, 02:39:52 pm
Demons appear in most addicts. I know this from NA meetings that I went to years and years back. I was fighting the demons within myself. I dont care who says this is not true because I bealived it. Demons is mostly a state of mind for the weak, which I was at the time. Demons could be many forms of problems in individuals, not just addiction. I do not in any way say the demons made me do the drugs. I did but as I like to say the demons awoke inside of me.
I dont understand why someone would say that to you and im sorry you went through that as a child.

Chemical imbalances in the mind; electricity in the brain gone bad.  If you want to call those demons, fair enough.

The opening post is implying there are actual supernatural, physical beings called demons that hurt people.  Childish nonsense.

If that is the question here. Then, NO. I do not bealive there are physical beings called demons. Although some people do, I just do not think that way.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: Falconer02 on August 09, 2009, 08:37:40 pm
"My parents are jehovahwitness, and they believe Demons can actually come thru the TV, and Music CDs xD"

Haha wtf!? I know some jw's and I thought they were people who werent into believing in weird stuff like that. I thought it was more for the crazy hands-in-the-air evangelicals, you know? Correct me if I'm wrong-- I'd love to hear your story  ;D
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: crushcomments on August 09, 2009, 08:49:26 pm
well i think ghost do exist i have actually seen them so yes
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: trop8cana on August 09, 2009, 11:14:11 pm
I believe that if there is good then there has to be bad
If there is heaven then there has to be hell
So on and so forth....
It has to keep the balance in life.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: liljp617 on August 10, 2009, 06:44:48 am
I believe that if there is good then there has to be bad
If there is heaven then there has to be hell
So on and so forth....
It has to keep the balance in life.

How awesome it would be if everything were this simple.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: jessicajoy78 on August 10, 2009, 07:02:08 am
I personally believe demons do exist (and are by no means 'mythological'), and can show up in a lot of different ways and many different forms (evil spirits, negativity, drugs, etc.), but definately NOT by just saying the word 'demon'.  It sounds to me like what you grew up in was more like a cult than anything else.  I am also a strong believer that 'demons' or any evil forces have only the amount of power you give them.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: liljp617 on August 10, 2009, 10:20:51 am
I am also a strong believer that 'demons' or any evil forces have only the amount of power you give them.

So...what you're saying is that if I don't believe in them and think they have zero power, then they actually don't exist and don't have any power?  Pretty silly.

Belief or lack of belief in something has no bearing on its existence or lack there of.  They either exist or don't, regardless of how much you believe or disbelieve in them.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: jessicajoy78 on August 10, 2009, 01:05:20 pm
I am also a strong believer that 'demons' or any evil forces have only the amount of power you give them.

So...what you're saying is that if I don't believe in them and think they have zero power, then they actually don't exist and don't have any power?  Pretty silly.

Belief or lack of belief in something has no bearing on its existence or lack there of.  They either exist or don't, regardless of how much you believe or disbelieve in them.

I am by no means saying if you don't believe in them they don't exist.  What I was trying to say is that they can't hurt you unless you believe they can hurt you.  I said nothing at all about them not existing if you don't believe in them or their powers.

Demons are discussed all throughout the Bible, and anyone that is Christian (including JW) would know that.  But a person's faith or lack there of can increase or diminish the power they have over them and their lives.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: Freeman352 on August 10, 2009, 01:12:07 pm
I think its a bad thing to scare a child with...however I didnt used to believe in hell, satan, or demons until my personal experience...

when I was 17 my roommate went out with some friends, and came back about 2 hours later. All the friends said they were with her the whole time, and she only had 2 beers. No drugs, nothing else, and they said there was no way anyone put anything in her drink. Well she was just sitting on the couch talking to me, and all of a sudden she stood up and started growling & screaming, foam coming out of her mouth, saying she was a child of satan and talking in tongues. Her eyes rolled back in her head, turned red, and she had blood coming out of her eyes, nose & mouth.This girl was just a normal, christian girl, and nothing provoked it, she just started doing it in the middle of a conversation. She would come in & out of being herself, normal for a moment, then freak out again...we called her parents and when they got there they started praying and she attacked & bit them, went nuts & broke most of the stuff in the apartment. They took her to the hospital and she finally calmed down & they couldnt find anything wrong with her. It was the WEIRDEST thing Ive ever seen. Plus we had just moved there and the apt. is on an indian burial ground.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: liljp617 on August 10, 2009, 01:18:04 pm
I think its a bad thing to scare a child with...however I didnt used to believe in hell, satan, or demons until my personal experience...

when I was 17 my roommate went out with some friends, and came back about 2 hours later. All the friends said they were with her the whole time, and she only had 2 beers. No drugs, nothing else, and they said there was no way anyone put anything in her drink. Well she was just sitting on the couch talking to me, and all of a sudden she stood up and started growling & screaming, foam coming out of her mouth, saying she was a child of satan and talking in tongues. Her eyes rolled back in her head, turned red, and she had blood coming out of her eyes, nose & mouth.This girl was just a normal, christian girl, and nothing provoked it, she just started doing it in the middle of a conversation. She would come in & out of being herself, normal for a moment, then freak out again...we called her parents and when they got there they started praying and she attacked & bit them, went nuts & broke most of the stuff in the apartment. They took her to the hospital and she finally calmed down & they couldnt find anything wrong with her. It was the WEIRDEST thing Ive ever seen. Plus we had just moved there and the apt. is on an indian burial ground.

I laughed out loud...awesome story.  Have you considered writing a book or movie script?
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: home_teachin on August 10, 2009, 01:19:15 pm
It's been said by lil better than I could say it, I just want to add that threatening children with demons, or hell should be considered child abuse. It affects them and their ability to reason well into adulthood.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: jessicajoy78 on August 10, 2009, 01:23:00 pm
"I just want to add that threatening children with demons, or hell should be considered child abuse. It affects them and their ability to reason well into adulthood."


I completely agree with this
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: Freeman352 on August 11, 2009, 02:04:21 pm
I laughed out loud...awesome story.  Have you considered writing a book or movie script?

No dude I swear to god that is what the girl did!! I cant say for sure it was demons but I dont know what else would make her want to act like that. LOL...if SHE was acting, then she should get an academy award. I have to admit I didnt know whether to laugh or be scared...the funny thing is that this was like a 400 lb black girl...just picture it.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: kelann1027 on August 11, 2009, 02:52:36 pm
yes i do and  :angel11:
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: eSineM on August 11, 2009, 05:32:19 pm
omg so stupid :sad1:
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: Golem5x on August 11, 2009, 05:41:56 pm

Well in the U.S which has so many people of Affiliated Religions...to say you believe in God....Makes You Despised...
Theres no Proof God Exists.....But you also Can't Disprove it...Same With Demons...if People Believe In Demons...Who's Business is it?

Same way if Someone Doesn't believe in God....It doesn't affect me at all....

Don't people have enough problems without worrying about petty details?
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: liljp617 on August 12, 2009, 12:45:04 am
Well in the U.S which has so many people of Affiliated Religions...to say you believe in God....Makes You Despised...
Theres no Proof God Exists.....But you also Can't Disprove it...Same With Demons...if People Believe In Demons...Who's Business is it?

Same way if Someone Doesn't believe in God....It doesn't affect me at all....

Don't people have enough problems without worrying about petty details?

Can I ask a quick question, as I'm unclear what you're intending to say.

Are you saying that, in the US, telling people you believe in God gets you weird looks and gets you ostracized?  

That's *bleep* backwards if that's what you're saying.  Just plain factually incorrect.  Why would someone get bad looks for saying that in a country of 70+% Christian?  They wouldn't.

If this isn't what you're saying, could you explain what you're trying to say more?


On the rest of what you said: It isn't anybody's business, and if everybody kept quiet and kept it out of the lives of other and out of politics, it wouldn't be a problem.  Except people are incapable of keeping beliefs like this to themselves when they're given the freedom to speak it.  Thus, it becomes other people's business.  And this is where we end up.

There's also the issue of intellectual honesty.  There's also the issue of whether teaching your children that there are, undoubtedly, demons that run around causing evil is right or wrong as a parent.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: Golem5x on August 12, 2009, 10:25:03 am
Well in the U.S which has so many people of Affiliated Religions...to say you believe in God....Makes You Despised...
Theres no Proof God Exists.....But you also Can't Disprove it...Same With Demons...if People Believe In Demons...Who's Business is it?

Same way if Someone Doesn't believe in God....It doesn't affect me at all....

Don't people have enough problems without worrying about petty details?

Can I ask a quick question, as I'm unclear what you're intending to say.

Are you saying that, in the US, telling people you believe in God gets you weird looks and gets you ostracized?  

That's *bleep* backwards if that's what you're saying.  Just plain factually incorrect.  Why would someone get bad looks for saying that in a country of 70+% Christian?  They wouldn't.

If this isn't what you're saying, could you explain what you're trying to say more?


On the rest of what you said: It isn't anybody's business, and if everybody kept quiet and kept it out of the lives of other and out of politics, it wouldn't be a problem.  Except people are incapable of keeping beliefs like this to themselves when they're given the freedom to speak it.  Thus, it becomes other people's business.  And this is where we end up.

There's also the issue of intellectual honesty.  There's also the issue of whether teaching your children that there are, undoubtedly, demons that run around causing evil is right or wrong as a parent.

No I said that Atheists get wierd looks....Not Christians.
A recent Poll Showed that a majority of fathers would rather their daughter married a Muslim then an Atheist....

The President is even supposed to swear on the Bible which wasn't instituted until the 50s...during the Red Scare to try and separate the United States From Godless Commies.....

But The U.S is supposed to Be Secular....How can we separate Church From State if Our own Presidents won't stand up to it?

If this topic is offending anyone I'll stop I don't really want to go into this.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: joybellyr4 on August 12, 2009, 10:59:34 am
Perhaps your guardians need a therapist.  I was recently told I'm a sick *bleep* by someone here (lol).  What's more sick than indoctrinating ignorant, young children with pure crap like this?

Demons exist about as much as leprechauns, pixies, unicorns, giant spaghetti monsters, and Dolly the all-seeing, all-knowing giant tortoise that orbits the Earth....

Hi, I know demonds are real, but NOT like most people think!  Satan comes to us in our thoughs with temptation or puts suggestions in our minds. TO say things to people that might hurt them that WE DON"T mean!  Have you heard of the expression, " if just came out"  Satan is very sly!!!  He is NOT a pitchfork and horns like he wants people to think.  I am a christian and have had the demons cast out and I don't want to have any thing to do with him and his recruiters.  Satin is VERY REAL!!!  IF we talk positive, say kind and positive words to others it weekends his effect on people.   :wave:
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: cdanunzio on August 12, 2009, 11:03:41 am
i would have said no until i saw a few episodes of  Paranormal State/lol/ . i believe the bible refers to demons as a metaphor for personal struggles, morals, and ethics.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: whatsgood5 on August 12, 2009, 11:37:46 am
I dont, but im not really religious or anything so I wouldnt argue with someone who does belive in them.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: liljp617 on August 13, 2009, 03:59:51 am
Well in the U.S which has so many people of Affiliated Religions...to say you believe in God....Makes You Despised...
Theres no Proof God Exists.....But you also Can't Disprove it...Same With Demons...if People Believe In Demons...Who's Business is it?

Same way if Someone Doesn't believe in God....It doesn't affect me at all....

Don't people have enough problems without worrying about petty details?

Can I ask a quick question, as I'm unclear what you're intending to say.

Are you saying that, in the US, telling people you believe in God gets you weird looks and gets you ostracized?  

That's *bleep* backwards if that's what you're saying.  Just plain factually incorrect.  Why would someone get bad looks for saying that in a country of 70+% Christian?  They wouldn't.

If this isn't what you're saying, could you explain what you're trying to say more?


On the rest of what you said: It isn't anybody's business, and if everybody kept quiet and kept it out of the lives of other and out of politics, it wouldn't be a problem.  Except people are incapable of keeping beliefs like this to themselves when they're given the freedom to speak it.  Thus, it becomes other people's business.  And this is where we end up.

There's also the issue of intellectual honesty.  There's also the issue of whether teaching your children that there are, undoubtedly, demons that run around causing evil is right or wrong as a parent.

No I said that Atheists get wierd looks....Not Christians.
A recent Poll Showed that a majority of fathers would rather their daughter married a Muslim then an Atheist....

The President is even supposed to swear on the Bible which wasn't instituted until the 50s...during the Red Scare to try and separate the United States From Godless Commies.....

But The U.S is supposed to Be Secular....How can we separate Church From State if Our own Presidents won't stand up to it?

If this topic is offending anyone I'll stop I don't really want to go into this.

I got thrown off by the "in the US saying you believe in God gets you despised."  My apologies, and I agree with you.

As for your last sentence:

Concerns over offending people's religious beliefs is not an important concern.  We're not concerned about offending political views, social views, choice of clothes, and so on...we do it on a whim constantly.  

Speak as much as you want; suppression of freedom of speech because of people "being offended" isn't something that should be accepted.  There's a reason being an atheist in the US gets you weird looks, as you say.  There's a reason Dutch cartoonists and newspaper editors had to go into hiding with full fledged security for fear of their lives.  People are too concerned with kindness and not offending people over trivial subjects that it has imposed on our past avid support of freedom.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: liljp617 on August 13, 2009, 04:05:38 am
Perhaps your guardians need a therapist.  I was recently told I'm a sick *bleep* by someone here (lol).  What's more sick than indoctrinating ignorant, young children with pure crap like this?

Demons exist about as much as leprechauns, pixies, unicorns, giant spaghetti monsters, and Dolly the all-seeing, all-knowing giant tortoise that orbits the Earth....

Hi, I know demonds are real, but NOT like most people think!  Satan comes to us in our thoughs with temptation or puts suggestions in our minds. TO say things to people that might hurt them that WE DON"T mean!  Have you heard of the expression, " if just came out"  Satan is very sly!!!  He is NOT a pitchfork and horns like he wants people to think.  I am a christian and have had the demons cast out and I don't want to have any thing to do with him and his recruiters.  Satin is VERY REAL!!!  IF we talk positive, say kind and positive words to others it weekends his effect on people.   :wave:

Quite convincing.  Thank you for this strong proof.  I believe your random anecdotal evidence has converted me to your perspective!

I agree, satin is quite real; a great silk-made cloth material first made in China.  I do like how satin feels.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: Falconer02 on August 13, 2009, 10:36:34 am
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I agree, satin is quite real; a great silk-made cloth material first made in China.  I do like how satin feels.

 :notworthy:
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: home_teachin on August 13, 2009, 10:43:41 am
to do with him and his recruiters.  Satin is VERY REAL!!!  IF we talk positive, say kind and positive words to others it weekends his effect on people.   :wave:

Quite convincing.  Thank you for this strong proof.  I believe your random anecdotal evidence has converted me to your perspective!

I agree, satin is quite real; a great silk-made cloth material first made in China.  I do like how satin feels.



lmao
Don't forget that it weekends his effect on people. It's always worse on Saturday.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: trujillo33 on August 13, 2009, 11:24:53 am
I believe there are some sort of demons! I am not really into the religious things!!  I hope i dont see one!!
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: itsCAROhere on August 28, 2009, 05:07:37 pm
I actually do, it has not been proven to me but I just do. .
I hope I don't get proof though.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: discardedheart on August 29, 2009, 02:55:40 pm
yes, i believe they exist.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: eSineM on August 29, 2009, 03:43:16 pm
if by saying it, a demon will appear, why have we not seen even one on youtube?  ;D
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: eSineM on August 29, 2009, 06:56:13 pm
if by saying it, a demon will appear, why have we not seen even one on youtube?  ;D
Probably because they are only going to appear to you and not everyone else.

if it appears to you and nobody else, that is called a "hallucination" not a demon :D
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: liljp617 on August 29, 2009, 07:03:51 pm
Look at how the atheists speak to people...is that proof enough? Everything is a joke and they talk so bad about God. The Devil has got their minds so fooled.

Proof of what?  

This isn't a joke.  It's a tragedy that such nonsense and foolish fear still exists in modern society.  The idea that a child's guardians would use fear mongering tactics like demons appearing is ridiculous.  That child should have been removed from the household immediately.

There's been a single mention of God outside of your post, and that other mention was fairly arbitrary.  Who is "talking bad" about God in this thread?

The devil doesn't have me confused in the least, as the devil is unlikely to exist.

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Also, I think if you say the word Demon they might appear because it is like you are summoning them and they hear it.

How nonsensical, silly myths like this still exist in modern thinking has me more confused than anything =(

Do you ever intend to post anything of substance on these forums?  Everything you post is a bunch of illogical, jumbled together rhetoric.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: goldensoul on August 29, 2009, 07:46:33 pm
everything thought of exists somehow, somewhere. What we should be most concerned about as individuals is if love dominates our thoughts and hence our actions. Negativity exists to teach us to love, hence we should not hate it for even a split second because that would only attract it towards you.  Fear is its medium and you only give it its powers  :). when you know who you are, your potential and unlimited power you would see how silly it is to think or exercise fear.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: liljp617 on August 29, 2009, 09:07:34 pm
everything thought of exists somehow, somewhere.

Nonsense.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: Sayok88 on August 29, 2009, 09:11:24 pm
I've always believed in ghosts/demons. However, I dont want to ever see one lol
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: jnjmolly on August 29, 2009, 10:31:11 pm
No, I do not believe in any of that stuff.   :fish:
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: liljp617 on August 30, 2009, 07:51:13 am
Look at how the atheists speak to people...is that proof enough? Everything is a joke and they talk so bad about God. The Devil has got their minds so fooled.

Proof of what?  

This isn't a joke.  It's a tragedy that such nonsense and foolish fear still exists in modern society.  The idea that a child's guardians would use fear mongering tactics like demons appearing is ridiculous.  That child should have been removed from the household immediately.

There's been a single mention of God outside of your post, and that other mention was fairly arbitrary.  Who is "talking bad" about God in this thread?

The devil doesn't have me confused in the least, as the devil is unlikely to exist.

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Also, I think if you say the word Demon they might appear because it is like you are summoning them and they hear it.

How nonsensical, silly myths like this still exist in modern thinking has me more confused than anything =(

Do you ever intend to post anything of substance on these forums?  Everything you post is a bunch of illogical, jumbled together rhetoric.

So

My point exactly...

When anyone tries to challenge what you say or even ask challenging questions you reply with something silly or ridiculous.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: johndavis on August 30, 2009, 08:38:38 am
I believe in demons...I used to be soo terrified.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: eSineM on August 30, 2009, 10:59:34 am
Demons make people drink soda poop LAWLZ
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: Falconer02 on August 30, 2009, 11:17:53 am
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Do you ever intend to post anything of substance on these forums?  Everything you post is a bunch of illogical, jumbled together rhetoric.

Yeah there's always a lot of that going around. Just remember-- we ARE talking about demons.

I'm gonna go play Doom.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: jusu on August 30, 2009, 11:22:07 am
I think all of us have a 'demon' inside. It's just how we are by nature. My Son is a recovering addict and I am a recovering anorexic. We are not bad people we just fight our demons. The truth lies in being able to face our demons and let them go, not give them power to destroy.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: Falconer02 on August 30, 2009, 11:28:22 am
I actually think the same thing as you, jusu-- that demon is just a word encompassing our negative traits we fight to overcome. But I think liljp made the point earlier that we're talking about physical manifestations of demons (satan, cthulhu, imps, etc.).
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: jusu on August 30, 2009, 11:33:46 am
Well in the real sense of the word then I would have to say,"yes"...I've actually seen fire shoot out of my ex's eyes and horns on his head .
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: eSineM on August 30, 2009, 03:25:42 pm
"Evil lives in the motherfucking skin" - Serj Tankian (from the War song..system of a down)

...so you guys actually believe anything we do that's sinful is because of some demon inside us..? lol

Demons get inside our bodies and make us curse, drink, smoke, drink pop, watch rated R movies, and TV etc. LAWLZ

Why U say.? cause the BIble says so, and it was written 6000 years ago XD

Satan is one big excuse for people... for example that lady who chopped her baby up in TX. was all blaming satan.. had nothin to do with all the drugs she dropped inside of her... ya gotta remember drugs make you see things that are not there, it is called "Hallucinations" ...if you have a depiction of a satan character scarred in your head from all the bible stories youve read it will manifest in your dreams.. Just a thought.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: Falconer02 on August 30, 2009, 04:13:57 pm
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so you guys actually believe anything we do that's sinful is because of some demon inside us

Are you referring to my post? If so, no. I dont believe that. It's just a word used to describe bad things we do. "He's having problems with drugs but he's trying to stop. He's fighting his inner demons." Just an expression!

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I don't see why people want to argue and challange me or anyone else because they don't know for sure themselves.

Well the reason we're challenging you is because you say things without any evidence to support it. If you want to believe demons exist, sure go ahead. In the mean time I'll believe in unicorns and santa-- there's no proof they exist, but I BELIEVE!!!

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Don't believe in God, Your life will be simple

Nobody brought up god but yourself! But it's the other way around-- believing in god makes life easier as people believe everything happens because it's all in gods plan so they don't have to worry about anything that comes up. The "opium of the people" as some put it. It's the atheists that are 'out of the vault' and trying to figure things out by themselves while attacking nonsensical religious-extremists that like to prove them wrong simply because they look at logic and reason rather than spirituality. This isn't meant to offend you at all. I'm just trying to show one of many explanations. I'm not an atheist if you're wondering.

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"Does what I think even matter to you? Then why do you ask?"

Because maybe you'll learn something new! I like sharing opinions with people just as much as I like reading theirs.

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Satan is one big excuse for people

Yep.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: goldensoul on August 30, 2009, 04:19:14 pm
everything thought of exists somehow, somewhere.

Nonsense.


yeah, hocus I guess, if not properly elaborated on.... what was  I thinking?  :confused1: perhaps under the influence of a logic hindering demon. 
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: InKane on August 30, 2009, 04:47:55 pm
Walruses exist.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: liljp617 on August 30, 2009, 06:53:19 pm
I think all of us have a 'demon' inside. It's just how we are by nature. My Son is a recovering addict and I am a recovering anorexic. We are not bad people we just fight our demons. The truth lies in being able to face our demons and let them go, not give them power to destroy.

That's a metaphorical meaning though, and a perfectly fine one.  If you wish to use the word "demon" in that context, there's nothing illogical about it.  It makes perfect sense.

A number of people in here (along with the thread starter), however, are talking about legitimately physical evil beings that cause harm in the physical world.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: liljp617 on August 30, 2009, 07:01:09 pm
Nobody knows for sure and if we did then there would be no need to believe, it's like believing you are alive, you know for a fact you are. I don't see why people want to argue and challange me or anyone else because they don't know for sure themselves. I don't like atheists because they think people who believe in God are a bunch of idiots and try to belittle them and make them thing everything they say is stupid and I think that is the work of the Devil "Don't believe in God, Your life will be simple" I was always told to keep my opinions to myself and not to speak about religion or politics because people start getting mean and making fun of you.

I prefer to answer "Does what I think even matter to you? Then why do you ask?"

I don't think you're an idiot.  

If I did, I would have stated it plainly in the number of threads we've posted back and forth.  I think you're irrational on just about everything I've seen you post about.  I think you're deluded on a number of topics.  I think if you want to be taken seriously in what you say, you should put a little effort into coherent thoughts and post coherent things, rather than toss everything floating around in your head into a jumbled post and expect people to take it seriously.

None of that implies you're an idiot.  An idiot is incapable of learning.  I have no doubt you're capable, but stubbornly want to remain ignorant for whatever reason (maybe it makes you feel more comfortable, secure, whatever).

I prefer to answer "Does what I think even matter to you? Then why do you ask?"

Yes.  Specifically if you live in the US.

Your logic, the way you think about things, your beliefs, your principles and morals being based on such beliefs, etc. effect your decisions on who to vote for, what causes to support, and so on.  If you think who you vote for or what causes you support doesn't effect those around you, you should pay more attention.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: geethasharan on August 31, 2009, 06:03:50 am
no ,maybe its in our imagination
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: melissakoch on August 31, 2009, 06:05:26 am
I agree with someone who said "demons" are within a person....negative people who try to bring you down
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: eSineM on August 31, 2009, 03:08:39 pm
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Are you referring to my post? If so, no. I dont believe that. It's just a word used to describe bad things we do. "He's having problems with drugs but he's trying to stop. He's fighting his inner demons." Just an expression!

ahh naw dude... i know what you meant...  you are totally RIGHT! and i dont think the paranormal stuff is demons, i just think it is some kind of energy that emulates from the human body..and people believe what they wanna...cause you know our thoughts send out frequencies thru out the universe
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: anguyen21 on September 06, 2009, 11:24:07 pm
No, but you're guardians might be. (No offense, but to say that to kids or anyone for that matter is messed up.
Title: Re: does anyone belive in demons
Post by: ashleeface on September 06, 2009, 11:33:46 pm
well that is an interesting question in my opinion demons are within your self they are not really things or people but action you have mad that you don't quite agree with