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no other president has reached this kind of economic growth ever, hes got my vote forever
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Personally he doesn't have my vote ever! Jobs isn't the only important thing when it comes to being president.
Its freaking crazy with the amount of money that he has been spending on all his golf outings. he really needs to watch his spending and not put this country even father in debt.
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:) It was Obama that crossed over the 20 trillion in debt amount. When it comes to golf and vacations, Trump doesn't hold a candle to Obama. :)
Oldfriend
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One can assume that your age would be less than two years of age if you are going off of sheer job count aggregates? Statistically: Bill Clinton created the most number of jobs 21.5 million during his term while Barack Obama created 17.2 million jobs during the great recession. If you were making this statement from a percentage perspective we could estimate your age at around forty eight which is when Lyndon B Johnson finished his term after a twenty point seven percent increase in job creation. So many factors could go into analysis of your statement but none of them provide support for fact. Business cycles would give bonuses to Clinton, Obama, Reagan Carter and LBJ who inherited recessions from their predecessors (Nixon, Both Bushes and Eisenhower). Perhaps you have statistics that history books/internet do not?
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Trump? Ugh.
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no other president has reached this kind of economic growth ever, hes got my vote forever
It's so nice to hear someone who's not bashing our leader. That was quite refreshing for a change. Thank you. :icon_rr:
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no other president has reached this kind of economic growth ever, hes got my vote forever
It's so nice to hear someone who's not bashing our leader. That was quite refreshing for a change. Thank you. :icon_rr:
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It would be nice to see what would happen if the man could do his job without all the fake controversy, made up "scandal", false accusations, and childish name-calling thrown at him.
Having said that: I'm mostly apolitical but, the way people hurl politics at everyone these days, it's very hard to be. ::)
Not saying that the OP is hurling it in our faces... people in general. ;)
Oh, one more thing! I lay MOST of the cheap "outrage" and "scandal" going around these days about every little thing at the doorstep of 24hr news networks pushing their agendas in our faces every hour on the hour.
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I may not always like everything President Trump says or does, but he is our president and deserves to be treated fairly ( which he is not) But he is trying and is having a hard time doing because of all of the BS the losing party is trying to push down our throats. Hillary lost, now give Trump a chance. We gave Obama 8 years and look where he put us. Nowhere. So at least respect the offices and quit bashing so much.
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Prove it! How other Presidents compare to him?
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Um...pass on that.
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Personally he doesn't have my vote ever! Jobs isn't the only important thing when it comes to being president.
Its freaking crazy with the amount of money that he has been spending on all his golf outings. he really needs to watch his spending and not put this country even father in debt.
Exactly, plus giving him credit for job growth is crazy, that credit goes to Obama, Trump just inherited it just like Obama inherited the mess from Bush and had to turn it around. Obama didn't add to the debt again that is the mess from Bush and his wars and the increasing interest on them. I was willing to give Trump a chance but he insists on only being president to his 30% and does not care about the WHOLE county. Obama and Bush tried to be President for everyone and unite this country. Trump is a vile man and has made it ok to act that way. I am very scared for the future of this country with him as an example/role model for the children. His speeches need an R rating.
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Not all jobs are created equal. With Obama the jobs created were minimal wage jobs which workers were still deemed the working poor & still qualified for welfare.
The jobs being created now are more living wage jobs, jobs that are created that pay enough so the workers don't qualify for welfare.
You can judge by looking up the stats for jobs vs welfare programs.
If you have 401k it is also easy to look at -- mine has already yielded an increase of 20% this year 2017.
You can also tell the economy is good based on how many shoppers you see packing the stores, and how fast the houses are selling -- the house next to me took 6 days to sell last month, two years ago, the same house took over 3 months & 45,000 less. It's like that in this whole area, average is 9 days to sell & prices are all increasing.
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I think Trump could be a great president given a chance!
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It's always hard to compare data because there is always a lag...
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Yeah, I don't think so. Nothing about that man is good.
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Personally he doesn't have my vote ever! Jobs isn't the only important thing when it comes to being president.
Its freaking crazy with the amount of money that he has been spending on all his golf outings. he really needs to watch his spending and not put this country even father in debt.
Obama inherited the mess from Bush and had to turn it around. Obama didn't add to the debt again that is the mess from Bush and his wars and the increasing interest on them.
That's simply not true. Obama almost doubled the debt. Blaming it on the wars is revisionist history.
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I haven't been reading much news, so thanks for the update about it!
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You must not be very old. I have many much better presidents in my lifetime....
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Tresb, thanks for telling dwiley, the facts on who created more jobs, Trump is a JOKE, he's only looking out for himself and putting his sometimes fake wife out in public,the last one didn't even look like her with those big glasses on and a scarf, I don't care for his way of running this world, he's putting all of our lives in danger by starting WARS with people he don't need to be starting with. I didn't vote for him and I will never VOTE for him. So if you want to put your trust in a man who doesn't give a rats, you know what, then that's your right. He is not the best President, as far as I'm concerned. He's taking away people's medical insurance, how are we supposed to pay for those medicines that cost too much, hospital bills, and co-pays, the elderly is suffering enough, we don't need to stress over how we gonna make it thru the month on limited medicines. So before you start talking about, Trump is the best president for jobs I've ever seen, think about how he is putting our lives in danger, over foolishness.
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He has done nothing good. Everything he takes credit for was someone elses accomplishment. Nobody that calls a congresswoman wacky, and trashes women and minorities like he has should ever be called our President. He is a disgrace to our country and every other country laughs at us.
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Yeah, I don't think so. Nothing about that man is good.
Agree 100%. Also he is vengeful, lost a suit (actually won $3.00) against professional football and was told he had to stay out of the football league and its business....so the kneeling controversy (which I am sure he has no idea why they are kneeling). He is fighting with a war widow instead of just letting it drop, she is grieving, it is not the time for him to be saying ugly things to and about her and her family. Especially not good coming from a draft dodger. He took out a bankruptcy in Puerto Rico, is that why the help is so slow getting there or is it because he thinks he is saving so much money by not filling the FEMA positions, the western states are having horrendous fires, but he has not released money to fill the hot shot fire crews. The list goes on and on. He also seems to go out of his way to cause discord between the different parts of the country, different groups of people, religions. He is always blaming everything that happens on everyone but himself.
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I agree 100%.. He was never a politician, and we needed a NON-CROOK in there!!!!!! ;D
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The few "accomplishments" that Trump has under his belt were things in the works as Obama was leaving.
Trump has no accomplishments other than annoying everyone on Twitter.
Trump is never going to be a good President. He's not even a good man.
I feel sorry for those who are ignorant enough to vote for and support this entitled, misogynistic, racist, and rapist.
WORST President ever! He takes no responsibility for anything, and I am sick of his rants. It's like the US is being run by a high school mean girl.
Those of you who say he's done things only think so because Trump is saying how much he's done.
It says a lot about your character to fall for this man's lies.
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I'm glad you are happy with Mr. Trump. There are so many things about him that I sometimes find it difficult to see the good that he has done.
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Obama’s budget ran until September 30 so all the job creation and spending were from that budget. Trump hasn’t done anything except try to repeal everything under the previous administration and go play golf at his own courses.
The man continuously filed bankruptcy and didn’t pay employees so I don’t know why anyone would think he is responsible for or even capable of creating jobs in the United States. He, and his family, are going to continue to outsource all jobs possible in their own businesses because it saves them money. They aren’t going to upset their foreign business partners by even seriously considering bringing jobs back to the US
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Obama’s budget ran until September 30 so all the job creation and spending were from that budget. Trump hasn’t done anything except try to repeal everything under the previous administration and go play golf at his own courses.
The man continuously filed bankruptcy and didn’t pay employees so I don’t know why anyone would think he is responsible for or even capable of creating jobs in the United States. He, and his family, are going to continue to outsource all jobs possible in their own businesses because it saves them money. They aren’t going to upset their foreign business partners by even seriously considering bringing jobs back to the US
The congressional budget isn't what is creating jobs in the private sector. Unrelated.
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It's scary how people can believe this. I don't know if it's the media brainwashing or if it's our education system that has failed us.
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Obama, left trump an office in very good standing & should be kissing Obama's presidential black/white *bleep* for not leaving him something like bush did to obama! Yet, he steps into office blaming obama at every frequent failure he faces which is like everyday! I can't respect a president who doesn't have leadership skills can't lead the country & refuses to learn how to become a effective president! When I look at trump, I don't see a grown man, I see a nasty little boy with the launch codes grasped in his tiny,tiny,tiny, tiny,tiny,tiny,tiny,tiny,tiny,tiny, HandS!
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The government funded people will always hate trump.
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Obama shut down more jobs than any president ever, Coal jobs are gone. Ask West Virginia
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Obama shut down more jobs than any president ever, Coal jobs are gone. Ask West Virginia
Coal jobs were on the way out when president Obama stepped into office! Get clue, coal will be a worthless antique very,very,very,very,very,very, SOON!
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What a waste of time and resources to try and bring back the coal industry, it is done. He seems to go out of his way to be arrogant and ugly to every day people. He is a little vindictive against anyone who ever slighted him in any way, he lost a law suit to the football league, and was told he could never have anything to do with it, so he makes a big deal about the people kneeling with a cause. A lot of people do not take that well coming from a draft dodger. 3 wives, two of them he cheated on while steal married, five children who he apparently has nothing to do with until they are grown. He changes his stories continuously, if he was smart he would not lie since he cannot keep track of them. He has went back on everything he said he would do during the campaign, because he found out the job was hard. Many of the jobs he said he saved, the companies have come out and said it was because of agreements with Obama not him. He has in 9 months spent more than Obama did in 8 years on vacation and family.
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What a waste of time and resources to try and bring back the coal industry, it is done.
If private enterprises want to spend time and resources on coal, why stop them? There is still a market.
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What a waste of time and resources to try and bring back the coal industry, it is done.
If private enterprises want to spend time and resources on coal, why stop them? There is still a market.
The issue is that these private enterprises want help from the government to keep them going. They aren't surviving and thriving on their own
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Why do people bad mouth this guy so much? I think he is the first president that I can remember to actually tell it like it is and do something about a lot of issues :)
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What a waste of time and resources to try and bring back the coal industry, it is done.
If private enterprises want to spend time and resources on coal, why stop them? There is still a market.
The issue is that these private enterprises want help from the government to keep them going. They aren't surviving and thriving on their own
That's not accurate. They want easing/rollback of costly regulations that have killed many jobs during the Obama administration. They wouldn't need "help" if the government didn't originally intervene.
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Trump is a buffoon and he would never get my vote. The man Went to Mexico before he was inaugurated into office to tell the President of that country what they were going to do. He has embarrassed the USA by making another unwanted and embarrassing step. He is the most embarrassing Human who is suppose to be representing the USA that I know off to be elected into office. He has embarrassed his wife on several occasions which was being filmed at that time. A fool is representing the USA. SMDH
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I'd rather have someone else for president than Trump. He's absolutely the worst president out there and even worse than Obama. The best president we had was George Washington (world's first US president). But I prefer Obama over Trump.
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I have to disagree. That man has done so little for the people of America.
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What a waste of time and resources to try and bring back the coal industry, it is done.
If private enterprises want to spend time and resources on coal, why stop them? There is still a market.
The issue is that these private enterprises want help from the government to keep them going. They aren't surviving and thriving on their own
That's not accurate. They want easing/rollback of costly regulations that have killed many jobs during the Obama administration. They wouldn't need "help" if the government didn't originally intervene.
You mean the regulations that started in the 70s by Nixon because people shockingly care about preserving natural resources and not contaminating all the nearby water. Any regulation that came during the Obama administration was just updating and enforcing existing acts
An increase in natural gas use and improved production capabilities is what caused the decline in coal jobs. But yes let's ruin things for the majority so the minority has some jobs. Polluting water sources and causing health problems doesn't matter because some people want to remain in the past and not see that their are better energy sources now
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What a waste of time and resources to try and bring back the coal industry, it is done.
If private enterprises want to spend time and resources on coal, why stop them? There is still a market.
Thank-you, Ladavia. Well put. We must look at what the pressure of population and using resources that pollute the air, water, and soil are doing to this planet. Even China is starting to use alternative energies because they understand what is happening. Saving a few jobs because a certain small portion of the population can't move on from the past and re-educate and re-tool their skills is ridiculous. Move into this century. Coal was part of the Industrial Revolution which is now over. It is now the Technological Revolution, and we are moving on. We must protect this planet or we won't have to be worrying about jobs of any kind!
The issue is that these private enterprises want help from the government to keep them going. They aren't surviving and thriving on their own
That's not accurate. They want easing/rollback of costly regulations that have killed many jobs during the Obama administration. They wouldn't need "help" if the government didn't originally intervene.
You mean the regulations that started in the 70s by Nixon because people shockingly care about preserving natural resources and not contaminating all the nearby water. Any regulation that came during the Obama administration was just updating and enforcing existing acts
An increase in natural gas use and improved production capabilities is what caused the decline in coal jobs. But yes let's ruin things for the majority so the minority has some jobs. Polluting water sources and causing health problems doesn't matter because some people want to remain in the past and not see that their are better energy sources now
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There's always economics growth under EVERY president. Using that logic, Obama was better than Bush. Bush was better than Clinton. Clinton was better than Bush Sr. Etc.
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First of all I'm tired of hearing about trump. Its because of him that north Korea is theatening this country
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I think he would be doing better if he could learn to keep his hands off his phone and stop tweeting.
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Some are saying it's nice to see someone that is not bashing our leader, but you have to earn respect from your people. When he opens mouth it is he who makes the dumbest remarks so people do the same.
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I would like for this discussion to be locked or taken down. Anybody will argue whether or not someone makes a good president, governor, etc. It’s best not to take so-called political sides if hardly anybody if at all gets along about that subject.
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Well you can't agree with everyone I guess...
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What a waste of time and resources to try and bring back the coal industry, it is done.
If private enterprises want to spend time and resources on coal, why stop them? There is still a market.
The issue is that these private enterprises want help from the government to keep them going. They aren't surviving and thriving on their own
That's not accurate. They want easing/rollback of costly regulations that have killed many jobs during the Obama administration. They wouldn't need "help" if the government didn't originally intervene.
You mean the regulations that started in the 70s by Nixon because people shockingly care about preserving natural resources and not contaminating all the nearby water. Any regulation that came during the Obama administration was just updating and enforcing existing acts
An increase in natural gas use and improved production capabilities is what caused the decline in coal jobs. But yes let's ruin things for the majority so the minority has some jobs. Polluting water sources and causing health problems doesn't matter because some people want to remain in the past and not see that their are better energy sources now
Obama basically vowed to bankrupt coal plants back in 2008. He signed new regulations which superseded previous regulations. He didn't simply update them. That's disingenuous at best. Anyways, it's hard for any industry to survive when the government is trying to kill it.
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I am just tired of hearing about that man
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Tresb, thanks for telling dwiley, the facts on who created more jobs, Trump is a JOKE, he's only looking out for himself and putting his sometimes fake wife out in public,the last one didn't even look like her with those big glasses on and a scarf, I don't care for his way of running this world, he's putting all of our lives in danger by starting WARS with people he don't need to be starting with. I didn't vote for him and I will never VOTE for him. So if you want to put your trust in a man who doesn't give a rats, you know what, then that's your right. He is not the best President, as far as I'm concerned. He's taking away people's medical insurance, how are we supposed to pay for those medicines that cost too much, hospital bills, and co-pays, the elderly is suffering enough, we don't need to stress over how we gonna make it thru the month on limited medicines. So before you start talking about, Trump is the best president for jobs I've ever seen, think about how he is putting our lives in danger, over foolishness.
I'm curious...What war did President Trump start? I don't watch the fake news much anymore but was not aware we were in a new war lol I also still have medical insurance. He hasn't taken away mine yet. Did he take yours away? Before you come here bashing the President, you may want to check your facts. Google is a good place to start. ;)
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Tresb, thanks for telling dwiley, the facts on who created more jobs, Trump is a JOKE, he's only looking out for himself and putting his sometimes fake wife out in public,the last one didn't even look like her with those big glasses on and a scarf, I don't care for his way of running this world, he's putting all of our lives in danger by starting WARS with people he don't need to be starting with. I didn't vote for him and I will never VOTE for him. So if you want to put your trust in a man who doesn't give a rats, you know what, then that's your right. He is not the best President, as far as I'm concerned. He's taking away people's medical insurance, how are we supposed to pay for those medicines that cost too much, hospital bills, and co-pays, the elderly is suffering enough, we don't need to stress over how we gonna make it thru the month on limited medicines. So before you start talking about, Trump is the best president for jobs I've ever seen, think about how he is putting our lives in danger, over foolishness.
I'm curious...What war did President Trump start? I don't watch the fake news much anymore but was not aware we were in a new war lol I also still have medical insurance. He hasn't taken away mine yet. Did he take yours away? Before you come here bashing the President, you may want to check your facts. Google is a good place to start. ;)
He hasn't started any wars yet but if he keeps agitating North Korea and other countries leaders we're getting attacked
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I totally agree. God bless the USa and our president