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Title: Stray Cats
Post by: santa7 on May 15, 2018, 02:27:51 pm
Three kittens and mama cat in my back yard.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: snuggleycutejc on May 15, 2018, 02:41:23 pm
That is so sad. I have a male cat where I do think the people moved on him. He don't know where to go and he is sad, and cant believe the hunger pains. I feed him outside I don't know he will make it through the summer.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: Beccas24 on May 15, 2018, 03:44:28 pm
Get info on the previous residents and call them or just keep the kitty
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: BATISTAGIRL663 on May 15, 2018, 04:19:58 pm
Oh that's so sad Maybe you could post on Facebook or call the Humane Society in your area and see about getting them some help to find a family who will take them in and keep them good luck
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: Chelseaagrace on May 15, 2018, 06:19:47 pm
I have a stray cat. I rescued him when he was three days old. No Mom or any other lotter
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: jwkelly on May 15, 2018, 07:43:50 pm
In my area we catch them,get them fixed and adopted at pet smart
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: Cbsteffen on May 15, 2018, 07:48:48 pm
Don’t you think you should contact the pound about the mother cat and her kittens?
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: potluck6 on May 15, 2018, 07:52:44 pm
they maybe feral so cant pet or pick up. ill bet their cuties. Now if you feed them may stick around.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: kaat1220 on May 15, 2018, 10:05:45 pm
I have worked with stray cats for over 14 years.

Provide them with food and water although the babies may still be feeding on mama cat. If so, mama needs to keep up her strength. If you can elevate the bowls to keep out ants, that would be good. I would put out food around the time you usually see them. If you do it at night, other animals may get to the food, so watch from a distance or through a window.

If the kittens are really young, they are easily socialized but you may want to contact local animal groups to help you with this. If the cats get to know you, it's likely that they will get socialized naturally.

If you can call a local animal group, they may be able to come out and humanely trap all of them (this will not not harm them). The mama can then be spayed to prevent further pregnancies, and when the kittens are old enough, they can be altered as well. Depending upon how wild each cat is, they can either be adopted or put back out where you found them but be sure to get them altered.

If you end up taking them to a shelter, be sure it is a "no kill" shelter.

Unfortunately, this is not an unusual situation. This is why it is so important to spay/neuter your pets (especially if you let them outside).

Hope this helps.

 :cat: :dog:
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: HotKentuckyMama on May 15, 2018, 10:08:51 pm
Our pet cat was a rescue cat.  She is a solid black cat so we named her Elvira.  A friend rescued her from the street.  She is missing half of one ear and has a patch of missing fur from the ear to the eye.  Our friend took her to the vet and we fell in love with her so she has come to make her new forever home here with us.  We love our fur baby and she is curled up in the recliner sleeping all cozy and comfy. 
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: kaat1220 on May 15, 2018, 10:16:45 pm
snuggleycutejc:

Can you bring him inside to live with you? If not, try to provide him with a cool place to go from the heat. If he won't let you close to him, do not force it.

Be sure to feed him twice a day and provide clean water. If he appears to be sick, call a  an animal group who may be able to help him.

Often, too many people just watch them and do nothing.

 :cat: :dog:
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: kaat1220 on May 15, 2018, 10:19:02 pm
HotKentuckyMama:

Is it her left ear that is snipped off? If so, she is what we call an "ear-tip kitty"  which means she was trapped, spayed, and put back out at some point.

If it is not the left ear, probably just an injury.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: heidi0902 on May 15, 2018, 10:41:24 pm
That's too bad. Take them to a shelter.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: darkxtsuna on May 16, 2018, 04:10:08 am
I have a mama and 2 kittens that grew up already from way back and they are still in my front yard.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 16, 2018, 05:55:19 am
That is so sad. I have a male cat where I do think the people moved on him. He don't know where to go and he is sad, and cant believe the hunger pains. I feed him outside I don't know he will make it through the summer.

If you are feeding him then he will make it fine. Long as he has food and water. I doubt he is sad.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 16, 2018, 05:56:23 am
Don’t you think you should contact the pound about the mother cat and her kittens?

Why would you do that? If she can find homes for the kittens and the momma cat that would be a lot better. The "pound" will kill them.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 16, 2018, 06:01:57 am
I have worked with stray cats for over 14 years.

Provide them with food and water although the babies may still be feeding on mama cat. If so, mama needs to keep up her strength. If you can elevate the bowls to keep out ants, that would be good. I would put out food around the time you usually see them. If you do it at night, other animals may get to the food, so watch from a distance or through a window.

If the kittens are really young, they are easily socialized but you may want to contact local animal groups to help you with this. If the cats get to know you, it's likely that they will get socialized naturally.

If you can call a local animal group, they may be able to come out and humanely trap all of them (this will not not harm them). The mama can then be spayed to prevent further pregnancies, and when the kittens are old enough, they can be altered as well. Depending upon how wild each cat is, they can either be adopted or put back out where you found them but be sure to get them altered.

If you end up taking them to a shelter, be sure it is a "no kill" shelter.

Unfortunately, this is not an unusual situation. This is why it is so important to spay/neuter your pets (especially if you let them outside).

Hope this helps.

 :cat: :dog:

Dealing with stray cats is not that big of a deal.  They are cats. Put out food and water if you want to keep them. You do not need the help of "animal groups".  If you don't want to keep them ignore them and they will maybe find some where else. It could be like in my area where my neighbor has over 40! A no kill shelter is not always an option. I have animals inside. I do not want any outside and I don't want other people's animals at my house. Most people feel the same way.

People who have WAY TOO MANY and refuse to get them fixed need to go to jail.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 16, 2018, 06:03:31 am
HotKentuckyMama:

Is it her left ear that is snipped off? If so, she is what we call an "ear-tip kitty"  which means she was trapped, spayed, and put back out at some point.

If it is not the left ear, probably just an injury.

WHY would you do that? An organization trapped the animal and fixed it and then just set it back out to fend for itself or to become somebody else's problem? I don't want strays or even neighbor's animals at my house.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: sak4kat on May 16, 2018, 06:33:02 am
We lived out in the country where there were tons of feral cats.  My husband and oldest daughter nabbed one and tried to socialize one but it was absolute disaster.  The kitten was mean and naughty... he was adorable but meant to be a wild cat. They thought they were doing something good as this Mama kitty had litter after litter and the kittens never seemed to make it... in fact one time she was caught smothering one of the babies. I'm allergic to cat's so never really gave much time towards figuring them out.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: santa7 on May 16, 2018, 09:53:01 am
Thanks for all the replies.  I did contact animal control when I found them and they told me it would be 25 dollars for them to bring me a trap and they would take the trapped cats back to shelter.  I said that I don't want to see them euthanized and at the same time didn't want them to multiply.  So, they're supposed to contact me to bring me a trap and they'll have them fixed then bring them back here.  Told them I'm on fixed budget and that people are always doing this around here.  Not getting them fixed and then they move out leaving the neighbors to deal with all these cats.  I have a kitty of my own that we rescued and has shots, spayed, and we keep her inside.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: vickysue on May 16, 2018, 02:44:51 pm
It is so sad how people will just up and leave their cats or dogs without  a care in the world. I have had pets at different times in my life. But  always lived out in the country then. I can't stand to see an animal chained in some ones  small yard. Just so they  can say  we have a guard  dog. If that is all they needed him for why not just put an alarm up. Now that we are in town that is what we have done, So if someone is in our backyard  we will know about it.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: jwkelly on May 16, 2018, 03:13:21 pm
I knew ppl with cats that were chipped and when they moved they simply tossed the cat to the street,when confronted they lie "oh the cat ran away"   Yeah you were evicted for non payment of rent,have many overdue bills.... but your cat you care about when you're running away ?
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: sbenkoski on May 16, 2018, 05:07:56 pm
I felt bad for a cat and started feeding her, soon i was feeding the whole neighborhood  of cats , what started out as one turned into 9 and digging up my garden, i had to stop.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: mardukblood2009 on May 16, 2018, 05:50:53 pm
I use to go to Pizza Hut in Virginia sometimes and there was a ton of cats that use to live behind it. Eventually the animals control people came in and took them away.  :cat: :cat: :cat: :cat: :cat: :cat: :cat: :cat: :cat: :cat: :cat: :cat:
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: kaat1220 on May 16, 2018, 07:27:14 pm
CountryGirl:

Taking care of stray cats is not as simple as you would like to think (especially if there are a lot of them). Food/water is their BASIC need. Cats need love/affection/medical care and a lot of things we humans need. They are funny, quirky, and social beings.

The reason they ear tip the kitty is because it is deemed to be "feral" which means it is NOT adoptable into someone else's home. So, rather than euthanize it, they spay/neuter and put it back where they found it because there is at least a chance that the animal knows the environment and knows where to find food. It is not right to euthanize animals for no other reason than there are too many of them especially since this is 100% the fault of humans for letting their unaltered cats outside. It is also highly important to spay/neuter that animal so it does not create more cats; THAT is why you do not just leave them there. Many people need animal groups to help them do things like this, especially if there are many of them. Animal groups also go around feeding cat colonies.

The reality is that this problem is solvable if people would make spaying/neutering their pets a number one priority.

I find your attitude off-putting (this is why you have problems with people). Rather than politely asking questions, you scoff at the work some of us are doing to help them.




Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: kaat1220 on May 16, 2018, 07:33:55 pm
sak4cat:

You have to get them while they are young to be able to socialize them, usually 4 to 8 weeks (just an estimate). It's not that the cat was meant to be feral; you got to it too late.

Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: kaat1220 on May 16, 2018, 07:56:40 pm
santa7:

Call the Humane Society or ask around about local animal groups. Local Groups should be able to come out and trap for you and not charge you for it. Here in Bradenton, Florida, groups provide this service, and sometimes, will even provide a bag of food now and then to help out if you feed ferals.

If you like, tell me where you live, and the county, and I will research it, and provide you with the necessary group to contact.

Animal Services is one place to go, but it's not the only place to go.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: nmbrown863 on May 16, 2018, 08:42:37 pm
There are many stray cats in my area.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: nmbrown863 on May 16, 2018, 08:46:06 pm
HotKentuckyMama:

Is it her left ear that is snipped off? If so, she is what we call an "ear-tip kitty"  which means she was trapped, spayed, and put back out at some point.

If it is not the left ear, probably just an injury.

WHY would you do that? An organization trapped the animal and fixed it and then just set it back out to fend for itself or to become somebody else's problem? I don't want strays or even neighbor's animals at my house.

They do this in my mothers neighborhood. She took in a stray that has a snipped ear.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 17, 2018, 05:15:35 am
I felt bad for a cat and started feeding her, so i was feeding the whole neighborhood  of cats , what started out as one turned into 9 and digging up my garden, i had to stop.

Yeah my neighbors 40 plus cats dig up my garden and poop in it every day.  I agree - this has got to stop!
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 17, 2018, 05:24:22 am
CountryGirl:

Taking care of stray cats is not as simple as you would like to think (especially if there are a lot of them). Food/water is their BASIC need. Cats need love/affection/medical care and a lot of things we humans need. They are funny, quirky, and social beings.

The reason they ear tip the kitty is because it is deemed to be "feral" which means it is NOT adoptable into someone else's home. So, rather than euthanize it, they spay/neuter and put it back where they found it because there is at least a chance that the animal knows the environment and knows where to find food. It is not right to euthanize animals for no other reason than there are too many of them especially since this is 100% the fault of humans for letting their unaltered cats outside. It is also highly important to spay/neuter that animal so it does not create more cats; THAT is why you do not just leave them there. Many people need animal groups to help them do things like this, especially if there are many of them. Animal groups also go around feeding cat colonies.

The reality is that this problem is solvable if people would make spaying/neutering their pets a number one priority.

I find your attitude off-putting (this is why you have problems with people). Rather than politely asking questions, you scoff at the work some of us are doing to help them.






LOL, I don't have problems with people.  And you are doing the same thing you are accusing me of.  You obviously missed what I said.  And I have no problems understanding cats or how the world works.  It is insane to trap a cat and spay or neuter it and then dump it back where you found it if the animal does not have a home.  You are basically putting it out to starve to death.  And you are making it somebody else's problem.  So basically it can either be put to sleep in the shelter or someone tired of it hanging around shoots it.  Fact is most people do not want a bunch of strays hanging around.  Doesn't make them bad people.

No, I don't want to see hundreds of cats put to sleep but that is reality.  I don't want 400 cats running around MY PROPERTY tearing up and damaging my things.  Yes, it is the fault of humans that refuse to get the animal fixed.

And FYI these ear tipped cats - they are not getting love, attention, nor medical care.  And they are also not vaccinated.  So NO I do not agree with this procedure unless you release them on someone's property who agrees to feed them and make sure they have water.

If you don't agree with me that is fine. But it doesn't make me wrong.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: sbenkoski on May 17, 2018, 07:36:40 am
CountryGirl:

Taking care of stray cats is not as simple as you would like to think (especially if there are a lot of them). Food/water is their BASIC need. Cats need love/affection/medical care and a lot of things we humans need. They are funny, quirky, and social beings.

The reason they ear tip the kitty is because it is deemed to be "feral" which means it is NOT adoptable into someone else's home. So, rather than euthanize it, they spay/neuter and put it back where they found it because there is at least a chance that the animal knows the environment and knows where to find food. It is not right to euthanize animals for no other reason than there are too many of them especially since this is 100% the fault of humans for letting their unaltered cats outside. It is also highly important to spay/neuter that animal so it does not create more cats; THAT is why you do not just leave them there. Many people need animal groups to help them do things like this, especially if there are many of them. Animal groups also go around feeding cat colonies.

The reality is that this problem is solvable if people would make spaying/neutering their pets a number one priority.

I find your attitude off-putting (this is why you have problems with people). Rather than politely asking questions, you scoff at the work some of us are doing to help them.
   

First off I LOVE animals !!   I also think its unfair to jump down her neck for saying what she thinks !  people get all worked up over JW's booger posts and then jump on someones back for
speaking what they feel... 
So have at me now !!
 

My area spend all its funds feeding cats and building houses for them for winter in -40 weather  and dose the fix the cat and dump them off....  Its not always people's faults there are 100's and 100's of wild cats  making 1000's of more cats!  And sending a cat to fend in -40 weather is just plain stupid!  There are so many clipped cats where i live i can't even have a bird feeder.  And every day i see cats being carried off by eagles to feed their young.  GOOD choice on clipping and wasting money to feed eagles ! 
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: kaat1220 on May 17, 2018, 09:22:15 am
No one jumped down her neck. I simply took offense at her making a complicated problem seem like a simple one by saying that taking care of stray cats is easy. It is by no means, easy. She directly quoted me and made it seem that my life's work was trivial. I take great offense at that. If she did not want a response, she should not have quoted my post.

And no, I disagree with both of you. If you do not work with ferals, you do not know what you are talking about.

People like you are the problem not the solution. When it becomes easy to solve a problem by saying "just put them to sleep," rather than finding a more compassionate answer, then you both have a sensitivity chip missing.

Putting a feral cat back on the street does not mean it is going to starve. I said that they put it back where they found it. Cats are good at finding food, and chances are, there is someone (sometimes, more than one person feeding them). Here, we feed ferals, and our neighbors often end up feeding some of the same cats. Plenty of people feed cats, and as stated before, Animal Groups go around and feed cat colonies regularly.

Do not tell me that euthanizing hundreds upon thousands are cats is the right thing to do under ANY circumstances. It is not solving anything. It does not get rid of them. It creates what is called the "vacuum effect." This means more move in when they sense the territory is free.

Is it a perfect system? No, but it's the best anyone else has come up with, AND makes it much easier for those who feed them to manage.

This assures that the 9 cats you said you were taking care of (benkowski) do not turn into hundreds.

Benkowski, the problem is 100% people's faults. People let their cats out without them being spayed/neutered, and they give birth on the streets. Not every kitten will be sociable and you have your first feral who gives birth to other ferals and on down the line. As for the Eagles, unfortunately, that is the chain of life. So, we should euthanize all cats in case they get taken out by another animal? Using that logic, why don't euthanize every single animal on the planet?

There are those of us who are out trying to help these animals and make things better.

Then, there are people like both of you, who do nothing to help the situation but are quick to say that euthanasia is a solution.

This is my last post to both of you because frankly, you are not adding anything to this conversation but ignorance.

The ignore button is a beautiful thing.

Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: o2bnocn on May 17, 2018, 10:03:42 am
Well that sounds very aggravating and like a hassle.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: santa7 on May 17, 2018, 11:09:09 am
Orange County.  Animal countrol gave me a report # for T&R.  Still waiting for them to contact me about bringing a trap.  Thinking of calling another animal group as time is passing.  Thank you.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: sbenkoski on May 17, 2018, 12:23:17 pm
No one jumped down her neck. I simply took offense at her making a complicated problem seem like a simple one by saying that taking care of stray cats is easy. It is by no means, easy. She directly quoted me and made it seem that my life's work was trivial. I take great offense at that. If she did not want a response, she should not have quoted my post.

And no, I disagree with both of you. If you do not work with ferals, you do not know what you are talking about.

People like you are the problem not the solution. When it becomes easy to solve a problem by saying "just put them to sleep," rather than finding a more compassionate answer, then you both have a sensitivity chip missing.

Putting a feral cat back on the street does not mean it is going to starve. I said that they put it back where they found it. Cats are good at finding food, and chances are, there is someone (sometimes, more than one person feeding them). Here, we feed ferals, and our neighbors often end up feeding some of the same cats. Plenty of people feed cats, and as stated before, Animal Groups go around and feed cat colonies regularly.

Do not tell me that euthanizing hundreds upon thousands are cats is the right thing to do under ANY circumstances. It is not solving anything. It does not get rid of them. It creates what is called the "vacuum effect." This means more move in when they sense the territory is free.

Is it a perfect system? No, but it's the best anyone else has come up with, AND makes it much easier for those who feed them to manage.

This assures that the 9 cats you said you were taking care of (benkowski) do not turn into hundreds.

Benkowski, the problem is 100% people's faults. People let their cats out without them being spayed/neutered, and they give birth on the streets. Not every kitten will be sociable and you have your first feral who gives birth to other ferals and on down the line. As for the Eagles, unfortunately, that is the chain of life. So, we should euthanize all cats in case they get taken out by another animal? Using that logic, why don't euthanize every single animal on the planet?

There are those of us who are out trying to help these animals and make things better.

Then, there are people like both of you, who do nothing to help the situation but are quick to say that euthanasia is a solution.

This is my last post to both of you because frankly, you are not adding anything to this conversation but ignorance.

The ignore button is a beautiful thing.

Euthanasia  where in my post did i say that ? seeing as you say you're being quoted , and if your going to use my user name  how about spelling it right !  I said here clipping and returning them is a waste of money. AND yes  the 9 out at my house have turned into at least 15 - 2 years ago and i saw 3 litters after that. So i'd guess 100's !  I believe in NO kill states , i'm not for putting any animal to sleep...   besides they end up in dog food because the shelters send  them to the rendering plants to sell to dog food companies ! I'd rather not have dead cats in my dogs food.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: kaat1220 on May 17, 2018, 12:26:47 pm
Santa7:

Orange County, Florida? I am double-checking because there are Orange Counties in several states.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 17, 2018, 02:08:10 pm
CountryGirl:

Taking care of stray cats is not as simple as you would like to think (especially if there are a lot of them). Food/water is their BASIC need. Cats need love/affection/medical care and a lot of things we humans need. They are funny, quirky, and social beings.

The reason they ear tip the kitty is because it is deemed to be "feral" which means it is NOT adoptable into someone else's home. So, rather than euthanize it, they spay/neuter and put it back where they found it because there is at least a chance that the animal knows the environment and knows where to find food. It is not right to euthanize animals for no other reason than there are too many of them especially since this is 100% the fault of humans for letting their unaltered cats outside. It is also highly important to spay/neuter that animal so it does not create more cats; THAT is why you do not just leave them there. Many people need animal groups to help them do things like this, especially if there are many of them. Animal groups also go around feeding cat colonies.

The reality is that this problem is solvable if people would make spaying/neutering their pets a number one priority.

I find your attitude off-putting (this is why you have problems with people). Rather than politely asking questions, you scoff at the work some of us are doing to help them.
   

First off I LOVE animals !!   I also think its unfair to jump down her neck for saying what she thinks !  people get all worked up over JW's booger posts and then jump on someones back for
speaking what they feel... 
So have at me now !!
 

My area spend all its funds feeding cats and building houses for them for winter in -40 weather  and dose the fix the cat and dump them off....  Its not always people's faults there are 100's and 100's of wild cats  making 1000's of more cats!  And sending a cat to fend in -40 weather is just plain stupid!  There are so many clipped cats where i live i can't even have a bird feeder.  And every day i see cats being carried off by eagles to feed their young.  GOOD choice on clipping and wasting money to feed eagles ! 

Thank you!  And that is another thing my neighbor's 40 cats do - run my birds off.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 17, 2018, 02:16:02 pm
No one jumped down her neck. I simply took offense at her making a complicated problem seem like a simple one by saying that taking care of stray cats is easy. It is by no means, easy. She directly quoted me and made it seem that my life's work was trivial. I take great offense at that. If she did not want a response, she should not have quoted my post.

And no, I disagree with both of you. If you do not work with ferals, you do not know what you are talking about.

People like you are the problem not the solution. When it becomes easy to solve a problem by saying "just put them to sleep," rather than finding a more compassionate answer, then you both have a sensitivity chip missing.

Putting a feral cat back on the street does not mean it is going to starve. I said that they put it back where they found it. Cats are good at finding food, and chances are, there is someone (sometimes, more than one person feeding them). Here, we feed ferals, and our neighbors often end up feeding some of the same cats. Plenty of people feed cats, and as stated before, Animal Groups go around and feed cat colonies regularly.

Do not tell me that euthanizing hundreds upon thousands are cats is the right thing to do under ANY circumstances. It is not solving anything. It does not get rid of them. It creates what is called the "vacuum effect." This means more move in when they sense the territory is free.

Is it a perfect system? No, but it's the best anyone else has come up with, AND makes it much easier for those who feed them to manage.

This assures that the 9 cats you said you were taking care of (benkowski) do not turn into hundreds.

Benkowski, the problem is 100% people's faults. People let their cats out without them being spayed/neutered, and they give birth on the streets. Not every kitten will be sociable and you have your first feral who gives birth to other ferals and on down the line. As for the Eagles, unfortunately, that is the chain of life. So, we should euthanize all cats in case they get taken out by another animal? Using that logic, why don't euthanize every single animal on the planet?

There are those of us who are out trying to help these animals and make things better.

Then, there are people like both of you, who do nothing to help the situation but are quick to say that euthanasia is a solution.

This is my last post to both of you because frankly, you are not adding anything to this conversation but ignorance.

The ignore button is a beautiful thing.



LOL.  You did jump down my throat and you are still doing it.  So you were offended. GET THE FLIP OVER IT!  How about YOU use the ignore button!  I didn't directly quote you on anything.  So we disagree with you. Let it be. You can't do that. You have to have the last word and you have to be right.  Well you aren't.  You seem to have a real attitude.  If you don't agree with me then I scream and stomp and yell and call names. 

I like animals and I like MY cats.  MY cats stay indoors and do not bother any one else.  I do not want wild or tame cats on my property that do not belong to me.  Trapping stay cats and spaying them or neutering them and then just taking them and dumping them back on the street is STUPID!  The cat is still homeless and has no where to get shelter or food.  It is basically fending for itself.  That is wrong.  If you are so concerned then you need to adopt them ALL and keep them IN YOUR HOUSE because I guarantee your neighbors do not want 400 cats in their yard.

You are seem to be one of the physcos who care more about an animal than a person.  I am curious do you care about the MILLIONS of babies that are MURDERED thru abortion every day? I doubt it.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: santa7 on May 18, 2018, 12:40:15 pm
They came by and left a trap yesterday and today picked up a cat but it was a male cat.  They're going to neuter it and bring it back and left me the trap in the meantime but I have to wait till Sunday to set the trap because they only work weekdays.  They call it T and R program.  They don't euthanize them.  They bring them back to you after they get them fixed. :) :cat:
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 18, 2018, 12:56:09 pm
They came by and left a trap yesterday and today picked up a cat but it was a male cat.  They're going to neuter it and bring it back and left me the trap in the meantime but I have to wait till Sunday to set the trap because they only work weekdays.  They call it T and R program.  They don't euthanize them.  They bring them back to you after they get them fixed. :) :cat:

If you want them then that is fine. But if there is a problem with stray cats in a certain area and the people in that area do not want them then fixing them and bringing them back and setting them out only makes the problem worse. The cats are still a problem and a bother.

I know someone who done that and she agreed if the animal shelter would trap the cats and fix them she would provide outdoor shelter and feed them. She does. They stay on her porch but they are all wild and no one can pet them. But they get fed til they go off and die. But where she lives if would not be fair to bring them back and dump them at her house if she didn't want them there.  That is all I was saying to start with when somebody had to get all bent out of shape and take things personal lol.

That and people need to understand they need to get their MALE as well as female cats fixed if they are going to let them roam outdoors. I know a lot of people don't bother getting their males fixed because they don't have to deal with kittens.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: patti4me on May 18, 2018, 03:42:54 pm
I love cats but especially kittens.  We had cats in the house for several years but when our last one died I gladly threw away the litter box and decided I didn't ever want another one.  I still love them but just not in my house lol
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: aflyingmonkey on May 18, 2018, 04:04:30 pm
I don't have a lot of cats roaming the neighborhood where I live, a couple are neighbors' pets I think... they just walk around & patrol.

I feed the birds in my backyard with seeds & bread... we like to watch them.  So I really don't want stray cats around to eat the birds.  We had a neighbor cat catch one of the doves & it was tramatizing for us all.  Thankfully that was only time.   

It's pretty regulated here on how many animals someone can have.  Outdoor cats don't surive out here too long... there are coyotes & hawks & cars...
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: jwkelly on May 18, 2018, 04:37:15 pm
On youtube so many replies by one poster on a subject is considered spamming either it's ridiculous to comment so much on 1 topic.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 18, 2018, 04:49:19 pm
On youtube so many replies by one poster on a subject is considered spamming either it's ridiculous to comment so much on 1 topic.

LOL THEN WHY ARE YOU DOING IT?
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: countrygirl12 on May 18, 2018, 04:51:05 pm
I don't have a lot of cats roaming the neighborhood where I live, a couple are neighbors' pets I think... they just walk around & patrol.

I feed the birds in my backyard with seeds & bread... we like to watch them.  So I really don't want stray cats around to eat the birds.  We had a neighbor cat catch one of the doves & it was tramatizing for us all.  Thankfully that was only time.   

It's pretty regulated here on how many animals someone can have.  Outdoor cats don't surive out here too long... there are coyotes & hawks & cars...


We have city and county ordinances here too.  But sometimes it is hard to enforce things.  We have coyotes too.  Like a friend said - they got to eat too. lol.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: kaat1220 on May 18, 2018, 05:15:17 pm
santa7:

Don't forget to let me know what state that your Orange County is located. There are too many in the US for me to simply guess.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: ktheodos on May 19, 2018, 04:56:43 am
ok - you can call animal control
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: kaat1220 on May 19, 2018, 05:43:15 am
They are the ones bringing the trap, and he doesn't want them put down. He is trying to get them spayed/neutered so they don't reproduce.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: santa7 on May 21, 2018, 01:23:11 pm
To CountryGirl and the other person who wanted to Know what state I live in.  Florida.  Sorry, but I don't know how to reply directly to people on this.  One kitten was trapped today and they came and got it.  I wasn't outside at the time, so don't know if they took Orange Kitty to be spayed/neutered or they just left it go because it was too young.  They left the trap, so I refixed the trap with food.  It's Mama Cat at this time I want them to spay.  They can bring her back.  It's ok with me.  I just don't want them euthanized as it's not their fault that they were abandoned.  They told me if the kittens were too young, they would not fix them.  My place is like a rain forest even though I live in downtown Orlando Southwest.  I grew up in the country up North so I like to garden.  Have lots of trees and plants.  A kitty of my own (who stays in the house).  I don't like to see them euthanized. 
 When they bring them back spayed, neutered, I would like to find them a permanent home.  Animal lover here.  Thank you both especially and everyone else for replies.  Have a great day.   :)
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: mamatygress on May 21, 2018, 05:58:35 pm
I have to say that when I read the subject, I immediately thought of the 80s band.  Stray cat strut...
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: annadote on May 21, 2018, 08:46:38 pm
A stray cat decided to adopt my family back when I was in elementary school. He was the nicest cat I have ever met (to humans, not other cats though). I really miss having that cat around.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: bshee58 on May 22, 2018, 07:14:27 am
We have neighborhood cats, so I don't have any of my own.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: HotKentuckyMama on May 22, 2018, 07:22:01 am
HotKentuckyMama:

Is it her left ear that is snipped off? If so, she is what we call an "ear-tip kitty"  which means she was trapped, spayed, and put back out at some point.

If it is not the left ear, probably just an injury.


Thank you very much for that information.  I really had no idea.  Yes, it is the left ear.  Ok, stupid question, maybe, but how do I know if she has been spayed?  The only way I knew was maybe is she does not go into heat?  Is there another way to tell?  Please tell me about the ear-tipping process, too.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: HotKentuckyMama on May 22, 2018, 07:28:37 am
And I don't believe Elvira was ever a ferile cat.  She is very loving and cuddly.  She's very precious and very much a part of the family. 
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: kaat1220 on May 22, 2018, 07:36:33 am
HotKentucky:

You can tell she is spayed because of the ear-tip. The ear-tip means she was trapped, spayed or neutered and put back out. If she was scared, they may have thought she was feral. They make mistakes because it is hard to tell a feral cat from a scared cat sometimes.

A cat does not get ear-tipped UNLESS they have been spayed/neutered.

Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: kaat1220 on May 22, 2018, 07:41:41 am
Santa:

I would call animal control and ask about that orange cat. You want to make sure they bring it back and do not euthanize it. Mistakes can be made.

Just call and check on it. If they decide it is too young, if it's sociable, they may be keeping it until it is old enough, but find out.

It is also good to let them know someone is keeping track of this cat. They may have a case number or something to give you for each cat, and the cats may have also had a microchip installed.

Since you have the trap/neuter under control, I will start searching for info for you for the future, and possibly for pet food banks.

If you want someone to know a message is for them, just put their name at the beginning.

Thanks.

Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: kaat1220 on May 22, 2018, 11:38:16 am
Santa7:

Here are some local "no kill" animal shelters to try to get the kitties into. If you end up letting Animal Services keep those cats and they are wild, they WILL be euthanized.

If they are not wild, there is a chance of euthanization if they do not get adopted within a certain time frame.


So, the following are all no kill, so you can start working on this:

http://thecatprotectionsociety.org/lobby.html

The Cat Protection Society
Open 10 a.m. - 3 p.m.
Monday thru Friday
Saturday: 10a.m. - 2 p.m.
Closed Sunday & Holidays
(352) 383-0685

Halo No Kill Animal Shelter
H.A.L.O.’s Main Shelter is located on US HWY 1 at Jackson Street
across from the Walmart Plaza
710 Jackson Street
Sebastian, Fl 32958
772.589.7297


Humane Society of South Brevard
2600 Otter Creek Lane
Melbourne, FL 32940
(321) 259-0601


http://www.carefelinetnr.org

This bottom email is a group who LOANS out traps, and educates the public
in trap/neuter/return.

appointments@CAREFelineTNR.org

If none of these work out, let me know, and I will find more shelters. Also, never list your cats as "free cats." Always ask for around a $25 adoption fee. This protects your cats from those who go around collecting free cats for nefarious purposes.

If someone seriously wants a cat, they will have no issue paying an adoption fee. In my experience, those who balk at an adoption fee will not want to spend any money on the cat once they have it.

Cats are an expense and commitment, and you want them to go to people who will actually take care of them.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: sfreeman8 on May 22, 2018, 12:05:09 pm
HotKentucky:

You can tell she is spayed because of the ear-tip. The ear-tip means she was trapped, spayed or neutered and put back out. If she was scared, they may have thought she was feral. They make mistakes because it is hard to tell a feral cat from a scared cat sometimes.

A cat does not get ear-tipped UNLESS they have been spayed/neutered.

i had a litter of ferals last year and was able to socialize them and found 2 of them homes. When i found out about help for neutering/spaying, I got vouchers for the male and female that was left. The morning of the appointment, the male was no where to be found (did he know?) but I got the female done. They gave her rabies shot plus green tattoo besides the ear tip and spaying. She became our baby (see avatar) and all was fine. She was so loving until about 4 months later, she went weird on us one night and got mean. She went out the door and we haven't seen her since. I do miss her but....her momma came back with another litter, 2 males and 2 females and one we never found out because he went onto the road and got killed. The other 4 are still here. I'm trying to socialize them. Got 3 of them to a point. Some days they'll gather around me; other days they run. One female I could probably get fixed and the 2 males but we were told to keep them in the house to keep an eye on them for 7 days. oh, the music that would happen with 3 of them...Anyway, can't get near the other female at all.  The one male is really jealous of the others and he won't let me pet the others. He'll push his head under my hand and butt the others away. Then he'll lay down on his back for me to scratch his belly.

I can't afford to get all 3 fixed even with a voucher program, but I refuse to call the local 'shelter" because they euthanize immediately. Anyway, the law here is you feed 'em, you own 'em and the shelter would bill us for food and shelter if they wouldn't euthanize. So that's my problem. Both females got pregnant and both were so small, their babies died or were stillborn. Found 2 on the porch from the one mom, and found 2 in the trunk of our car after a week of warm weather from the other mom. Sad. Thankfully, their mom hasn't come back with more. :) She leaves as soon as the kids can fend for themselves.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: kaat1220 on May 22, 2018, 12:24:55 pm
What city, county, and state do you live? I will also research places that may come out and trap/neuter/return.

Some groups will come out and do it for free. You really need to get mama fixed, or you will have more babies.

If you don't do this now, before too long, things will be out of control for you to handle.

Let me know, and I will try to do some research for you.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: kaat1220 on May 24, 2018, 09:35:23 am
Santa7:

Here is the link to Orlando's Pet Food Pantry for those who have trouble feeding their pets.

https://petallianceorlando.org/pet-food-pantry/

Also, one more no kill shelter. This shelter did not state "no kill" so I contacted them and they are indeed no kill and will be putting that information on their site.

http://www.petrescuebyjudy.com
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: sherryfan on May 24, 2018, 09:44:37 am
They won't be stray cats if you start to feed them
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: kaat1220 on May 24, 2018, 10:24:10 am
Santa7 is taking responsibility for spaying/neutering them, and is going to try to get them adopted if they can be socialized.

Since Santa is on a fixed income, extra help may be needed hence the posting of the petfood bank.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: santa7 on June 01, 2018, 12:01:15 pm
I adopted one of them through the T&R program.  She's a beautiful calico named Cleo.  Our almost 4 year old Japanese Bobtail isn't happy about it.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: santa7 on June 01, 2018, 12:03:26 pm
Cleo has her own room.  Will be awhile till I can introduce her to Miku who's hissing at the bottom of the door at her.
Title: Re: Stray Cats
Post by: santa7 on June 01, 2018, 12:13:00 pm
Kaat1220:  New at this.  So, don't know how to reply to you directly, but it is the PetAlliance that I went through.  So glad I found them.