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Title: Gay Marriage?
Post by: pjc2244 on September 30, 2009, 03:13:21 pm
How do you feel about it?
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: Cuppycake on September 30, 2009, 03:15:21 pm
I don't think we need more then one topic about the same thing...
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: pjc2244 on September 30, 2009, 03:16:51 pm
I don't think we need more then one topic about the same thing...
There's no active topics about it, and I'm not about to search through 10+ pages to find it. Thanks for your opinion though~
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: pjc2244 on September 30, 2009, 03:25:22 pm
...And I just searched for a topic about that, and the last one was posted in over 1 month ago. Posting in old topics is something called "Grave Digging" and is generally seen as violating basic forum etiquette...  Don't try to tell me that I'm wrong when you are. =] Thank you! Any more complaints?
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: GoGoKokiGo on October 01, 2009, 01:40:16 am
Lol I think EVERYONE should have the right to commit to themselves to the one they love, no matter what orientation they are.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: Cuppycake on October 03, 2009, 09:51:56 pm
I don't think we need more then one topic about the same thing...
There's no active topics about it, and I'm not about to search through 10+ pages to find it. Thanks for your opinion though~

There is a search option learn to use it!
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: JessieKateRose on October 03, 2009, 10:32:46 pm
I don't think we need more then one topic about the same thing...
There's no active topics about it, and I'm not about to search through 10+ pages to find it. Thanks for your opinion though~

There is a search option learn to use it!
She did. And a while before you posted this.
Learn to read.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: Marissaj820 on October 03, 2009, 11:46:47 pm
Lol, I have to say... this amuses me. No reason to cat fight.

As for the topic,
Gay marriages... hmm, To all of those who don't think gay's should get married - my question is: Why the hell does it matter? If they aren't hurting you or inflicting their ways on you then why does it matter if gays choose to get married? Is it because they can't " produce children " and your afraid we'll go instinct or something? lol. In my opinion, there's alot of straight people who have children and either put them up for adoption or abortion so.. what's happening there? At least Gay's can adopt the unwanted children and give them a home. I think everyone should have the right to love, marriage, happiness, and freedom. Weather their sexual preference.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: Rastov on October 04, 2009, 12:57:00 am
I don't think we need more then one topic about the same thing...
There's no active topics about it, and I'm not about to search through 10+ pages to find it. Thanks for your opinion though~

There is a search option learn to use it!
She did. And a while before you posted this.
Learn to read.
A simple use of the search feature resulted in Gay Marriage (http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?topic=5053.0)
Opinions on gay rights/marriage? (http://www.fusioncash.net/forum.php?topic=7163.0)

One from May, the other from August.
The search button is much quicker and more effective than reading all thread titles for several pages.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: ro901 on March 03, 2010, 09:55:57 am
Personally, I don't see the point of getting married to begin with...it's just higher taxes. But if you're gay then you might as well be just as stupid as the rest of us.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: laceybriglia on March 03, 2010, 10:02:42 am
Well here's my opiinion: No. Marriage was intended for a man and a woman. It was so they can become one and produce a child. Gay people can obviously not produce. It makes no sense to me why they would even want to be married. Why not just stay together forever without marriage.  :dontknow:
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: dreamyxo on March 03, 2010, 10:04:38 am
I don't care.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: muush88 on March 03, 2010, 10:05:29 am
Let them get married   Why should they be happy  I  just cant imagine a two wife arguement   :BangHead:   :wave:
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: Gothy505 on March 07, 2010, 02:48:53 pm
In my opinion, everyone should be able to marry another human being because of the financial support and the job security. Not allowing gays to marry is a bad idea because when they do marry they are able to save more money, become more responsible, and think of a future like everyone else. Also with the extra money they can adopt a child and give him or her a future in this dog eat dog world
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: Sohcahtoa on March 07, 2010, 02:58:38 pm
Well here's my opiinion: No. Marriage was intended for a man and a woman. It was so they can become one and produce a child. Gay people can obviously not produce. It makes no sense to me why they would even want to be married. Why not just stay together forever without marriage.  :dontknow:

Because without marriage, they don't get all the legal benefits of it.

To say "Why not just stay together forever without marriage" is pretty offensive, too.  Why should you and your wife/husband be married?  Why not just stay together without marriage?

You can have a baby and not be married.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: BeccaGoga on March 07, 2010, 03:02:24 pm
Although I think marriage for anyone straight or not usually ends in disaster, everyone should be entitled to equal rights. Who cares what someones sexual orientation is as long as they are not affecting you in a personal way.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: laceybriglia on March 07, 2010, 03:30:39 pm

Because without marriage, they don't get all the legal benefits of it.

To say "Why not just stay together forever without marriage" is pretty offensive, too.  Why should you and your wife/husband be married?  Why not just stay together without marriage?

You can have a baby and not be married.
Actually if you follow a Christian religion you can't have sex before marriage. Which means no babies without marriage. Homosexual people cannot have a child and most do not follow a Christian religion so why even get married? definition of marriage:
the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: StephaBon on March 07, 2010, 04:12:33 pm
This really belongs on the debate subforum, but I'll post anyways.  I believe marriage (or even that kind of love) is only between one man and one woman.  Marriage and sex was created by God to be between those two genders (that's why they anatomically fit together perfectly).  Homosexuality is a perversion (abomination possibly?) of love and sexuality.  I know this is really going to offend people and I'll get all kinds of crap from people, but that's just what I think.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: tekgirl on March 07, 2010, 04:50:45 pm
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, that is the beauty of free speech in this world, just like I am of mine, I want the day that everyone gay/straight/transgendered are all equal with equal rights, in the end we are all from the earth, from which we will return. I myself am gay and transgendered, I dont hold hostile to anyones opinion, I dislike that our youth, faces alot of discrimination in life, we are all different yes, but we all come from the same earth. :peace:
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: glbish on March 07, 2010, 04:53:26 pm
THE BIBLE SAYS ADAM AND EVE NOT ADAM AND DAVE.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: Sohcahtoa on March 08, 2010, 12:03:49 am
Actually if you follow a Christian religion you can't have sex before marriage. Which means no babies without marriage. Homosexual people cannot have a child and most do not follow a Christian religion so why even get married? definition of marriage:
the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.

This really belongs on the debate subforum, but I'll post anyways.  I believe marriage (or even that kind of love) is only between one man and one woman.  Marriage and sex was created by God to be between those two genders (that's why they anatomically fit together perfectly).  Homosexuality is a perversion (abomination possibly?) of love and sexuality.  I know this is really going to offend people and I'll get all kinds of crap from people, but that's just what I think.

THE BIBLE SAYS ADAM AND EVE NOT ADAM AND DAVE.

*AHEM*

Whatever happened to SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE?

We're talking about LAWS here.  Get your religion away from my government!  Contrary to what you Bible-thumpers may think, the USA was NOT founded on Christian principles!

I will GLADLY hear any arguments against gay marriage that aren't founded on religion (They might not have the same religion as you!  GASP THE HORROR!) and aren't insulting to gays (Like claiming that their love isn't as good as the love between a man and woman).

Oh wait...what's that?  Oh yeah!  There's AREN'T any arguments against gay marriage that are either based on religion or insulting to gays!
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: laceybriglia on March 08, 2010, 09:40:28 am
How about the fact that a man and a womans body were meant to be together? A mans *bleep* and a womans vagina fit perfectly. And they can create a child. You know why? Because that is nature. That is how it is suppose to be. Oh yeah I forgot it doesn't matter about nature it's all about "love" What's next marrying other species? I mean that's also against nature. I guess we should also be able to marry inanimate objects.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: Sohcahtoa on March 08, 2010, 09:47:36 am
How about the fact that a man and a womans body were meant to be together? A mans *bleep* and a womans vagina fit perfectly. And they can create a child. You know why? Because that is nature. That is how it is suppose to be. Oh yeah I forgot it doesn't matter about nature it's all about "love" What's next marrying other species? I mean that's also against nature. I guess we should also be able to marry inanimate objects.

Your argument is a slippery slope fallacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope) and is therefore invalid.

Also, homosexuality occurs in nature (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals) as well.

Waiting for your next argument now.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: ashawnd on March 08, 2010, 10:22:00 am
as far as i am concerned-- live and let live.  god put us on this earth to be happy and to live each day to the fullest- not to squabble about what someone else is doing in the privacy of their own home. i feel that we are all humans first- not certain colors, religions, or sexual orientations. once again- my mother always told me to treat others like you want to be treated. if someone is nice to you no matter what they look like, believe in, etc- you be nice to them. by the same token- if someone is mean or cruel to you regardless of those same factors- you have to option to be nice to them or not.  i see it this way- when you die and go to heaven- everyone starts over with a clean slate- so what does it matter whether they were gay or straight on earth? :angel11:
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: mangomiata on March 08, 2010, 10:28:05 am
Personally, each and every person is entitled to feel and give love whatever form that takes.  The sexual diversity of our world is immense and I am not one to judge what a person feels inside their heart.  I am heterosexual and adore my husband but that doesn't mean that my sister who is lesbian shouldn't feel the same love for another woman if that is what fulfills her life.  I want every person to feel happy and accepted for who they are.  There is so much strife and  stress in lives today that to have a special person to cling to is a great joy.  I will not be the one to deny a person that feeling.

Sandy
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: laceybriglia on March 08, 2010, 10:34:16 am
I don't care if they are together that's their own business I juts don't believe they should be able to get married.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: paigesuftko on March 08, 2010, 01:18:37 pm
grandma always said tend to your own chickens, grandpa called em flamers. so i dont care do whatever gets you off you only live once :peace:
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: Sohcahtoa on March 08, 2010, 03:32:11 pm
I don't care if they are together that's their own business I juts don't believe they should be able to get married.

But why not?
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: laceybriglia on March 08, 2010, 03:38:52 pm
I don't care if they are together that's their own business I juts don't believe they should be able to get married.

But why not?


Didn't I already explain this?
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: Sohcahtoa on March 08, 2010, 04:28:36 pm
I don't care if they are together that's their own business I juts don't believe they should be able to get married.

But why not?


Didn't I already explain this?

Yes, and you completely ignored my response.  You claimed that homosexuality is against nature, and I showed that homosexuality occurs very commonly in nature.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: laceybriglia on March 08, 2010, 04:35:43 pm
Yes, and you completely ignored my response.  You claimed that homosexuality is against nature, and I showed that homosexuality occurs very commonly in nature.
Okay and just because it happens in nature that makes it right? I mean it obviously happens in nature or we wouldn't even be having this discussion. what I meant was a man and a womans body were meant for each other which is why a man and a oman can produce.. If everyone were homosexual we wouldn't be able to continue the human race. That is how it isn't right. Two men or two women are just not meant to be. That is like a human marrying a dog it just isn't right.. sorry. I'm not puroposely trying to offen anyone I'm just telling it how it is.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: JakeJumpsHigh on March 08, 2010, 10:47:00 pm
Gay marriage - Agree
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: GoGoKokiGo on March 08, 2010, 10:47:18 pm
Yes, and you completely ignored my response.  You claimed that homosexuality is against nature, and I showed that homosexuality occurs very commonly in nature.
Okay and just because it happens in nature that makes it right? I mean it obviously happens in nature or we wouldn't even be having this discussion. what I meant was a man and a womans body were meant for each other which is why a man and a oman can produce.. If everyone were homosexual we wouldn't be able to continue the human race. That is how it isn't right. Two men or two women are just not meant to be. That is like a human marrying a dog it just isn't right.. sorry. I'm not puroposely trying to offen anyone I'm just telling it how it is.
Who says our purpose is to reproduce? If you ask me I think some of us have overdone it on the reproducing, some should have their reproducing cards revoked. Why say that we're meant to reproduce when most of the kids made from reproducing just end up in bad homes or in the foster care system. Is that what the product of our reproduction is meant for? I think that's what's really not "meant to be".

GO GAY MARRIAGE! GO ON WITH YOUR FABULOUS SELVES!
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: JakeJumpsHigh on March 08, 2010, 10:51:07 pm
Yes, and you completely ignored my response.  You claimed that homosexuality is against nature, and I showed that homosexuality occurs very commonly in nature.
Okay and just because it happens in nature that makes it right? I mean it obviously happens in nature or we wouldn't even be having this discussion. what I meant was a man and a womans body were meant for each other which is why a man and a oman can produce.. If everyone were homosexual we wouldn't be able to continue the human race. That is how it isn't right. Two men or two women are just not meant to be. That is like a human marrying a dog it just isn't right.. sorry. I'm not puroposely trying to offen anyone I'm just telling it how it is.
Who says our purpose is to reproduce? If you ask me I think some of us have overdone it on the reproducing, some should have their reproducing cards revoked. Why say that we're meant to reproduce when most of the kids made from reproducing just end up in bad homes or in the foster care system. Is that what the product of our reproduction is meant for? I think that's what's really not "meant to be".

GO GAY MARRIAGE! GO ON WITH YOUR FABULOUS SELVES!

Agree!! I cant believe how many Closed minded people there are.. Its sad we live in a world of change, Culture, Color, But still people cant be with someone they love of the same sex with out being looked down on.
Title: Re: Gay Marriage?
Post by: hicaniplay on March 09, 2010, 01:21:21 am
Well here's my opiinion: No. Marriage was intended for a man and a woman. It was so they can become one and produce a child. Gay people can obviously not produce. It makes no sense to me why they would even want to be married. Why not just stay together forever without marriage.  :dontknow:


Yes, and you completely ignored my response.  You claimed that homosexuality is against nature, and I showed that homosexuality occurs very commonly in nature.
Okay and just because it happens in nature that makes it right? I mean it obviously happens in nature or we wouldn't even be having this discussion. what I meant was a man and a womans body were meant for each other which is why a man and a oman can produce.. If everyone were homosexual we wouldn't be able to continue the human race. That is how it isn't right. Two men or two women are just not meant to be. That is like a human marrying a dog it just isn't right.. sorry. I'm not puroposely trying to offen anyone I'm just telling it how it is.


Where do you live that marriage = breeding license?
A family friend, due to a medical issue, can never have children. She got married just fine.
Wasn't asked if she was planning to reproduce or ever adopt or anything to do with increasing the 6.8 billion people on this planet.


On another note, I once read an article about scientists who took the the eggs from two female mice, combined them, implanted them back into one of the mice, and they produced perfectly fine daughters.

Before talking about that being unnatural, consider that they commonly combine eggs and sperm in a lab before implanting them in a woman (even when the woman is *gasp* unmarried or in a lesbian relationship or even married to a man who didn't provide the sperm).


As for why someone would get married, again it could be different where you live, but around here there are over 1,000 federal benefits, plus some state ones, if you get married.


I am not Christan. However, since you might be, here is some further reading for you (although try to keep in mind, Christians did not invent marriage):
http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/ (http://www.wouldjesusdiscriminate.org/)


For the tl;dr
A diagram: The Same-Sex Marriage debate, greatly simplified. (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/upload/2009/12/the_same-sex_marriage_debate_g/samesexmarriage.php)