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Title: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: camellia0 on October 11, 2018, 06:28:09 pm
If there was something at the store that you really needed, whether diapers, baby formula or even otc medicine, if you did not have the money, would you steal it (if you knew you could get away with it) or would you ask someone to buy it for you (like a stranger at the store)?

I would ask someone and make it known that I am not looking for a handout, but I really need that item.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: betlynjua on October 11, 2018, 06:42:30 pm
My Bible trained conscience would never allow me to steal under any circumstances.  I don't think I would be able to live with myself.  I would do without what I needed until I could afford it.

It's interesting that you mention - (if you knew you could get away with it).  A thief may be able to hide his/her crime from every human on earth but our Great God Jehovah sees all things and He will hold the thief accountable .

It looks like you would not steal either.  That is good to know.   :)

Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: gwilson31 on October 11, 2018, 07:16:30 pm
No matter how badly I wanted or needed it, I would wait until I could afford it.  8) 8)  Even if I knew I could get away with taking it....I would feel too guilty.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: annadote on October 11, 2018, 08:52:12 pm
I am counting my blessings that I have never been desperate enough to have to really consider this. You know, I really don't know what I would do unless I was in this situation. Something to ponder...
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: plennis on October 11, 2018, 08:55:40 pm
I am counting my blessings that I have never been desperate enough to have to really consider this. You know, I really don't know what I would do unless I was in this situation. Something to ponder...

I agree, you never know until you are there.  I think I would ask for help before I would steal.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: sdenimandlace1 on October 12, 2018, 03:20:16 am
I would ask for help before I took something without paying. 
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: braggin on October 12, 2018, 03:39:20 am
Definitely tell everyone near you in the store that you need it and can't pay for it. There happen to be plenty of people who will just plain old buy it for you!
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: mgint on October 12, 2018, 05:37:53 am
ask for help shouldn't steal
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Post by: Nancy5 on October 12, 2018, 05:46:20 am
I am counting my blessings that I have never been desperate enough to have to really consider this. You know, I really don't know what I would do unless I was in this situation. Something to ponder...

I agree, you never know until you are there.  I think I would ask for help before I would steal.

I have to agree, I don’t know because I have never been in that situation.  I want to say I would not steal, but if I had no money and it was medicine for one of my kids, I seriously don’t know.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: 1imaginarygirl on October 12, 2018, 06:17:15 am
I want to believe that you could easily find someone in the store to buy diapers or baby formula for you in a pinch, before you need to resort to stealing. I mean you're not asking for a fifth of JD. But unfortunately, the cynic in me doesn't believe that most people are willing to help. You never really know what you'd do in desperate situations until you're actually in one.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: cateyes1 on October 12, 2018, 07:21:28 am
Years ago I bought a health walker that came with a video. When I got home the video wasn't in the box so I went back to the store, found a video of a health walker and walked out of the store with it.  I felt so guilty even though it was suppose to come with a video, that I went back and put it back on the shelf and walked away..so NO, I couldn't steal even if my life depended on it !!
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: ghunter on October 12, 2018, 09:59:07 am
Never steal, always ask for help.  God will provide, I really believe that, so you must beleive.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: articx on October 12, 2018, 01:19:13 pm
I won't steal and I would not ask someone to buy it for me. I would wait until I had enough money to buy it.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: cathy37 on October 12, 2018, 01:45:27 pm
I would definitely not steal anything because with all the cameras and security stores have now you would get caught.  Of course, I would never steal anyway. 
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: vickysue on October 12, 2018, 03:17:55 pm
I wouldn't steal, but  if your  are in dire need of help, you can always go to a church, or a food bank, clothing bank/ We are always giving out diapers and training pants to those who need  even if they are not signed up for the program. Every one needs a hand up at sometime of other.  But stealing is not the way.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: madeara on October 12, 2018, 03:25:25 pm
I would ask for help.  Stealing is not the answer.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: teresa3200 on October 12, 2018, 07:12:21 pm
Not sure what I would do. I don't like asking for handouts, but I would probably look for help.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: ancmetro on October 12, 2018, 08:17:13 pm

     Theft is a crime! Do not steal!
     Ask for help. Someone will do
     something for you!
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: teenangel on October 12, 2018, 09:05:35 pm
I would never steal anything. The Bible tells you that stealing is wrong
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: TheAmericanCanadian on October 13, 2018, 08:25:38 pm
I'd probably steal. I never ask for help, I'm too stubborn and proud to ask for it. Plus, I grew up having to have to look out for myself with no one to turn to for help.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: mardukblood2009 on October 13, 2018, 09:19:37 pm
I would ask the store if I could see the manger and maybe I could mop the floor or do some odd job as payment for that item.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: dreamyxo on October 13, 2018, 10:25:10 pm
I wouldn't steal.  If I didn't have the money I wouldn't buy it.  I'd wait until I had the money.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: Tresbn00 on October 15, 2018, 07:49:26 am
I have never been in the position where I have not had the things that I "need". Items that are an absolute necessity have always been within reach for me: More than enough air to breath, I have never been without ample water, and been in a position where food can be obtained even in the worst times of my life. The body needs water the most but can go thirty days without food. I have gone two weeks without food but could easily have found a shelter or rummaged through garbage behind a restaurant. I have always had clothes but, once again, would be able to find a shelter in any of the cities I have lived in to provide me with clothes. I have lived in my car for six months when I could not afford housing. Some nights I would sleep in the office. This being said, I would not steal as there has always been an alternative for me.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: darkxtsuna on October 23, 2018, 04:57:18 am
I have a somewhat big family so I ask for help if I really needed it.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: sak4kat on October 23, 2018, 06:59:10 am
I would never steal.  It's among the 10 ten commandments.  I've gone without the basics in my life before so my kids could have what they need.  I used old socks as nursing pads. And a slew of other things that albeit it "roughing it" my kids were taken care of.  I would ask for help... not likely from strangers though.  More from family or church family.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: bremer51 on October 23, 2018, 07:28:33 am
I'm with Plennis and Nancy5.  I don't think I would steal, but if my baby needed diapers or formula, I could be desperate enough to do so.  You can't wait and save up for diapers.  Hard to say without being in that position.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: squirrelgirl44 on October 23, 2018, 01:32:34 pm
I would never be able to steal. I would ask for help.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: linsanna on October 23, 2018, 03:05:55 pm
There is no harm in asking for help however stealing is against the law! I would not want to be broke and in jail. Just saying.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: timvolley on October 23, 2018, 03:34:44 pm
i wouldnt steal it because my luck i would probably get caught and just wouldnt be wotrth it. I would ask for help if i needed it
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: kuponsaver2011 on October 23, 2018, 03:37:01 pm
I had been very poor when I was growing up. What we did was ask the local restaurant if we could purchase food on a tab (on account) and pay off a little bit each month when we got more money in. The local Italian restaurant owners made their fortune from the ground up so they understood and helped us out through my grammar school and middle school years.

The day I was able to make our final payment and buy food outright was a proud one for me. Each day we prayed for the owners and their families and thanked the Almighty for their generosity. If not for them we would have gone hungry.

So, I'm in the "ask for help" camp because those who help are also blessed!
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: countrygirl12 on October 23, 2018, 05:15:10 pm
If there was something at the store that you really needed, whether diapers, baby formula or even otc medicine, if you did not have the money, would you steal it (if you knew you could get away with it) or would you ask someone to buy it for you (like a stranger at the store)?

I would ask someone and make it known that I am not looking for a handout, but I really need that item.

Neither.  I would either do without - which I have done in my life time or find a way to get the money and pay for it myself.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: countrygirl12 on October 23, 2018, 05:19:45 pm
I want to believe that you could easily find someone in the store to buy diapers or baby formula for you in a pinch, before you need to resort to stealing. I mean you're not asking for a fifth of JD. But unfortunately, the cynic in me doesn't believe that most people are willing to help. You never really know what you'd do in desperate situations until you're actually in one.

Here is the thing people do this all the time and then return the item and get the money so a lot of people are not so willing to buy stuff for people.  A few years ago I worked at Walmart during the Christmas season and this b*tch had her kid in there is a short sleeve dirty tee and a diaper IN THE WINTER and not in a warm climate and told people she needed milk for her baby.  Person after person bought this b*tch a gallon of milk and she would come right back in to the store and return it.  The people were not buying the cheap milk so she was getting around $6 every time she done this.  Employees saw this happening.

I don't trust anyone any more.  There are organizations to help people and women with kids they can't afford to have get food stamps and cash on the food stamp card to buy stuff like diapers and they also get WIC to pay for a ton of other food and can usually get formula free as well.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: countrygirl12 on October 23, 2018, 05:21:12 pm
Years ago I bought a health walker that came with a video. When I got home the video wasn't in the box so I went back to the store, found a video of a health walker and walked out of the store with it.  I felt so guilty even though it was suppose to come with a video, that I went back and put it back on the shelf and walked away..so NO, I couldn't steal even if my life depended on it !!

Why didn't you go to the store and tell them the video was not included with the walker? Or call the number for the manufacturer? They would have got a video to you.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: countrygirl12 on October 23, 2018, 05:22:43 pm
I wouldn't steal, but  if your  are in dire need of help, you can always go to a church, or a food bank, clothing bank/ We are always giving out diapers and training pants to those who need  even if they are not signed up for the program. Every one needs a hand up at sometime of other.  But stealing is not the way.

So many churches have been scammed that most do not just give people money any more.  Ours doesn't.  They want money to buy drugs.  And I swear every service somebody comes in asking for money.  If someone needs help we do help people but we do not just give cash to people who come in with a sob story.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: countrygirl12 on October 23, 2018, 05:24:17 pm
I would ask the store if I could see the manger and maybe I could mop the floor or do some odd job as payment for that item.

Big box stores can not do that.  You can't work in the store and get paid with merchandise. But a lot of stores do have ways to help people. But it also goes back to so many people scam that they don't give hand outs as easily and freely as they use to.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: ktheodos on October 27, 2018, 06:25:26 am
never hurts to ask....could hurt to steal.....
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: aflyingmonkey on October 30, 2018, 04:51:13 am
Never steal, it's not worth going to jail for.  Ask for help, you'd get it from charities & the government programs offered.  WIC provides baby formula & food/milk for mothers, expectant mothers & infants/children up to age 5.

Most cities have free clinics to get medicines, if you're poor & have medi-cal, the doctor can write you a prescription for over the counter meds so you'd get them for free.  There are clinics that operate on sliding scale payments that base their payment on what you make.... if anything.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: potluck6 on October 30, 2018, 01:30:36 pm
If I was starving id steal from a store . don't think a loaf of bread and peanut butter would hurt the store.  read about once kmart arrested a gal for stealing baby formula with her baby.  cant believe that they should of given her some and diapers .probably why t5hey went out of business. maybe worn her if it happened again then theyd call the cops. ill bet some folks in the store would of bought the formula for her.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: tantricia44 on October 30, 2018, 03:33:35 pm
I can’t say because I’ve never been in a situation where here I was desperate enough to break the law. & I hope I never have too!
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: singletonb on October 30, 2018, 09:50:31 pm
even though it is not easy, to ask for help, I would do that before I steal.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: JaniceSW on November 05, 2018, 11:42:56 am
It seems there are a lot of honest people on this site and that is good, but I have learned to never say what you might do in a situation until you are in it. If I was starving and there was no food easily at hand, I am unsure what lengths I might go to in order to fill my stomach. I would like to think I would find a job of any type, panhandle, access a church or food bank that would be nearby, but really, who knows until you are feeling the pangs of hunger or knowing your child is. Never say never until you know the situation!
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: brian8713 on November 05, 2018, 12:46:03 pm
I'd ask for help before stealing. Just hope I'm never in a position like that.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: shasha2210 on November 05, 2018, 03:55:26 pm
if there was anything in the store and someone took it you have to tell an employer
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: vg7405 on December 15, 2018, 09:01:36 pm
I would definitely ask. As the old adage goes, "The juice isn't worth the squeeze". And this instance, it certainly isn't.
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: sbenkoski on December 15, 2018, 09:54:17 pm
I wouldn' t be  at the store with out money, but never steal it
Title: Re: Steal or Ask for help
Post by: nannycoe1 on December 16, 2018, 05:21:49 am
I would ask someone for help. It is hard to ask for help but sometimes we all need it.