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Title: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: Trustin33 on October 08, 2009, 11:42:37 am
Do you think you USA is coming to  a end?
i don't, but that do you think?
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: dreamyxo on October 08, 2009, 11:45:44 am
Nothing lasts forever.  No nation is on top forever.  Look at the Roman empire, what are they doing now?  The US has not been #1 in a lot of categories for a while.  It may still be around but it won't be as powerful as it once was.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: mgarmstrong on October 08, 2009, 06:12:31 pm
No, I do not.  I feel we are a great country but as with everything, we need to work to improve.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: oldbuddy on October 08, 2009, 06:13:58 pm
This is STILL the greatest nation on the planet.  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: liljp617 on October 08, 2009, 06:26:16 pm
No -.- They've said the same thing numerous times throughout our very short history.  We still have one of, if not the, most powerful, organized military in the world.  That in itself is enough to warrant our existence for the time being.  We clearly have problems in the country, as every nation and every empire (if you wish to consider the US an empire) always has.  The only people who think it's coming to an end are the people who want it to come to an end, for whatever reason...sadly a number of them are in this country.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: hwilliams591 on October 08, 2009, 06:40:32 pm
This is STILL the greatest nation on the planet.  :notworthy:

I agree here!
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: lfreebird on October 09, 2009, 04:51:59 am
I believe the USA will always be on top.  I would never live anywhere else on this planet.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: liljp617 on October 09, 2009, 10:49:56 am
I believe the USA will always be on top.  I would never live anywhere else on this planet.

Top of what?  Highest military spending and most obese people?
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: darkcrystal7102 on October 09, 2009, 10:54:09 am
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Top of what?  Highest military spending and most obese people?
True dat.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: lancenweman1978 on October 09, 2009, 11:21:53 am
I don't believe America will come to an end, at least not in our foreseeable future. We will go through many changes. We really need to adapt because of the globalization all the countries have gone through in the past 2 decades.

First we need to define what is America. I believe that America is about opportunities, democracy, organization, has law and order, a basic Constitution and several other factors for which to define this country I won't delve into for now.

So long as most of those qualities are in place, America isn't going anywhere.

We may go through outsourcing, challenging educational standards, drug wars and addictions, international policing, humanity issues and some other things like that, but the backbone of this country is still the same as it has been for the past couple hundred years. FREEDOM of speech, universal rights for all registered citizens, an organized honest financial system (for the most part ><) an the ability to utilize all the resources it takes to start from nothing in this country and literally overnight to create honest fortunes.

Any other country will have systems in place we wouldn't like, just like we have some here we don't like, (ie monitoring of our emails etc) but for fu*%& sake, there have to be some concessions on our part because of the complexity of the world today and the unbelievable amount of despots out there wanting to promote chaos and disorder, so we will need some sacrifices along the way to ensure our forefathers dream will live on for as long as we work to make it to.

Ok enough rambling  :BangHead: :BangHead:
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: lynnc35 on October 09, 2009, 12:11:58 pm
not so much the country itself, but our freedoms are sure going down the drain, freedoms that are bad, as far as the country moving in a bad direction, as opposed to the freedoms we were founded on. :'(
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: JessieKateRose on October 09, 2009, 09:21:56 pm
Not at all. xD
Some girl kept trying to convince me that the dollar would soon be worth nothing and we'd soon be using a currency called the "amero." I tried to tell her that this was not true but she insisted because, "I saw it on a video on youtube!!"
My faith in humanity is coming to an end, but I don't think the US is anytime soon.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: Sonya89 on October 09, 2009, 09:59:02 pm
I myself am a marine wife and i don't see this nation coming to an end anytime soon. But with Obama in office we are gonna have some problems. I mean he just got a dang Noble Peace Prize and he hasn't done ANYTHING. It's people that think he is a freaking King that are ruining this country. Yes he is the first black president but i think it is funny they have yet to show us his birth certificate or that he is even a American Born citizen (being that is the only way to be president). I saw a clip on the news the other day where children where singing praise songs to him. Our country is definitely in some trouble but I don't think that it will end. I am just afraid that Obama is gonna go way to far with this and we are gonna have another JFK incident.

As for the huge military spending...that money has gone to other countries not us. My husband is a mechanic in the Marines and their budget for his shop for a quarter is less than a cost of an engine. In one week they spend more than their budget. And you should be proud to live in this country where we are free and we have people SACRIFICE their lives so that we and our children can live a great life.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: liljp617 on October 09, 2009, 11:25:40 pm
I mean he just got a dang Noble Peace Prize and he hasn't done ANYTHING.

The reasons he received it were clearly outlined by the committee that chose him.

The award has been a joke and meant nothing for some time now.  Yasser Arafat and Al Gore won it for *bleep*'s sake...it's just something else for Fox News to orgasm over.

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As for the huge military spending...that money has gone to other countries not us. My husband is a mechanic in the Marines and their budget for his shop for a quarter is less than a cost of an engine. In one week they spend more than their budget. And you should be proud to live in this country where we are free and we have people SACRIFICE their lives so that we and our children can live a great life.

What other countries does it go to?

I am proud.  I'm proud enough to recognize the improvements that need to be made in order for this country to retain its position at the top.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: rcbrad on October 10, 2009, 07:39:33 am
not so much the country itself, but our freedoms are sure going down the drain, freedoms that are bad, as far as the country moving in a bad direction, as opposed to the freedoms we were founded on. :'(

I guess I must not see it or I missed something, but what freedoms are going down the drain?
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: babypolotb on October 10, 2009, 10:45:06 am
we have to stop being negative and believe that everything will be taken care of.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: babypolotb on October 10, 2009, 10:46:05 am
we have to believe in the president that he is trying to fix the mistakes from the last presidency.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: liljp617 on October 10, 2009, 12:16:34 pm
we have to stop being negative and believe that everything will be taken care of.

Belief is of no use in reality.  It requires action, and action by the citizens -- the entity that is the nation and is the government.  Things don't just "work out" without solid, organized action.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: Falconer02 on October 10, 2009, 12:50:41 pm
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Do you think you USA is coming to  a end?

Logic dictates that we still have states that are united within America, so...no. It's not coming to an end.

Why are people bringing up religion in this thread? The answer is simple.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: lostindarklight on October 10, 2009, 01:53:21 pm
I love how people say "be proud, that people get brutally killed and blown to pieces so you can have a wonderful life" Sorry, I am not proud of the Human Race and never will be until wars,murder,racism,molesting,rape,people eating animals....etc STOP!!
I am not proud to be a part of this Hell, but I am and it wasn't my choice, I didn't ask for life, I simply am just alive because someone brought me into the world.
Looking around at the world, I sometimes have to stop and think is all this worth it, is it worth bringing other people into the world? A lot of times the answer is NO.
I am very confused at how humans live their lives and think it is okay. I mean people die, die very horrible deaths for Americans to be so called "Free" I will never be proud of that, and will always just wonder why life has to be like this. I'm not happy about this "sacrifice" it is awful. That is one reason why I don't want children. I don't want my son to go thru hell so everyone else can sit back and reap the benefit.
I wish life was different, I wish humans were so advanced that we acted like Angels and behaved like Angels.

angel - a supernatural being
supernatural - miraculous, divine
miraculous - of the nature of a miracle
divine - godlike

I just deal with life since it was given to me but no that is nothing in my opinion to be proud of


How do you know your going to have a son?(if you have a kid that is) and btw your human too :,D you people crack me up, and hey I love eating meat ._.

If this place end then it does so , we can only try to help were we can and deal with the changes <3
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: eSineM on October 10, 2009, 03:35:02 pm
Nothing lasts forever.  No nation is on top forever.  Look at the Roman empire, what are they doing now?  The US has not been #1 in a lot of categories for a while.  It may still be around but it won't be as powerful as it once was.

Actually the largest army is not always the one which exists the longest. For example what good is an army when your country is radioactive? Things have changed much since the days of fighting with swords or even guns and missiles, now is the ability to destroy the land in long term. The cold war taught us that the size of armies are no longer as important as the threat of mass destruction.

Not to mention that we have US troops working for the UN, and we have UN troops on US soil...

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I myself am a marine wife and i don't see this nation coming to an end anytime soon. But with Obama in office we are gonna have some problems. I mean he just got a dang Noble Peace Prize and he hasn't done ANYTHING. It's people that think he is a freaking King that are ruining this country. Yes he is the first black president but i think it is funny they have yet to show us his birth certificate or that he is even a American Born citizen (being that is the only way to be president). I saw a clip on the news the other day where children where singing praise songs to him. Our country is definitely in some trouble but I don't think that it will end. I am just afraid that Obama is gonna go way to far with this and we are gonna have another JFK incident.

As for the huge military spending...that money has gone to other countries not us. My husband is a mechanic in the Marines and their budget for his shop for a quarter is less than a cost of an engine. In one week they spend more than their budget. And you should be proud to live in this country where we are free and we have people SACRIFICE their lives so that we and our children can live a great life..

The money does NOT go to other countries for military spending, Military spending is for MILITARY spending, it does not include aid to other countries etc. The only way it goes to other countries is because we are always at war IN other countries. I agree that the men on the ground get the least of the money though and are often stuck fighting in Vietnam war era flac jackets due to the lack of accountability in the military and their accounting. They lost 2 trillion dollars in 2001... LOST it... then how many times have they been caught buying 20,000$ toilet seats? Cooking the books I think they call it...  The money mostly ALL gets funneled directly to haliburton and blackwater etc. So private soldiers get HUGE pay increases and bonus's while those enlisted suffer.  Then even haliburton overcharges the marines and other soldiers for their crappy food.

reminds me of the movie "IRAQ for Sale"

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I don't have to show anybody my Birth Certificate!!

You do if you want a job... its mandatory ever since right after 9/11. I cant recall what the form is called, but anyone who got a job recently should know... it needs 3 forms of identification and gives you a list. Passport or birth certificate is one. As for needing his birth certificate, I find it strange the amount of money he spent to keep it secret... super strange, but I think its not as important as him doubling the troops in Afghanistan after promises to bring troops home...

I think the news just focuses on the birth certificate, because they do EVERYTHING they can to prove that anyone who opposes Obama's ideas are just racist. Everyone who is not racist loves Obama. haha, they do that at those Tea Parties too. they see hundreds of people, lawyers, private citizens, etc. all claiming they don't like the bailouts, or healthcare (depending on the rally) and the news will find one hick and do everything they can to make him look racist or maybe even find a real racist, and do all they can to prove that the entire rally is just racist. They do not ever try to get their message across, just marginalize and discount the entire rally as racist or ignorant children. Or people afraid of the word "socialism" etc. its the same tactic used when Bush was in office that claimed anyone who was against Bush was anti-American.

That's the difference between democrats and republicans... One says "your Un-American, your too liberal, you sympathize with terrorists" and the other says "your a bad man, you don't care about others, your racist" but both of them actually listen to what you say, or actually act on behalf of the people.. both boost up the number of troops dying for money on foreign soil while leaving our own soil unprotected and bankrupt.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: liljp617 on October 10, 2009, 04:28:23 pm
Yes he is the first black president but i think it is funny they have yet to show us his birth certificate or that he is even a American Born citizen (being that is the only way to be president).

His birth certificate has been plainly posted on the Internet for anyone who wishes to see it.  Do some research for yourself, stop listening to everything Fox News says.

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I saw a clip on the news the other day where children where singing praise songs to him.

The children were singing songs about numerous past US Presidents in addition to the song about Obama.  Do you have a problem with them also singing songs about Lincoln or Washington?  Why not?  Because Fox News talking points didn't say anything about that, did they?  Why not?
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: htecash on October 10, 2009, 04:39:39 pm
We shall see. but I think we will never see America like it use to be... I mean the change people were thinking is not the change they thought they would get. In a nut shell they been fooled.. you will see change....  for those who wanted change, you will see it... but it again... it want be nothing close to what you were thinking about            ... enough said  period!!!
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: Falconer02 on October 10, 2009, 05:49:36 pm
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They do not ever try to get their message across, just marginalize and discount the entire rally as racist or ignorant children. Or people afraid of the word "socialism" etc. its the same tactic used when Bush was in office that claimed anyone who was against Bush was anti-American.

This is why I love the internet so much-- you get so many news stories from so many sources that you're left with making your OWN opinion rather than just shoving Fox news' story into your head. I always got a kick out of Bush's "you're either with us or you're against us" speech as those words in themselves are superiorly anti-american.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but morally treasonable to the American public"   -Theodore Roosevelt

"What luck for the leaders when men do not think" - Adolf Hitler
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: humez555 on October 10, 2009, 07:23:35 pm
i have no idea :BangHead:
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: DSBELL on October 11, 2009, 12:23:27 am
No nation lasts forever. Take a look at all of the ones tht have fallen. Unless things turn around for us soon, we will see it fall down around our ears.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: AmyTrivitt on October 11, 2009, 09:38:18 am
Lets just set back and see what China has planned for us! And yes our Freedom went down the drain a LONG time ago. Do some research on what freedom in the USA stands for and then see and realize how much of our freedom really does not exist any longer.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: liljp617 on October 11, 2009, 03:27:31 pm
Lets just set back and see what China has planned for us!

Why?

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And yes our Freedom went down the drain a LONG time ago. Do some research on what freedom in the USA stands for and then see and realize how much of our freedom really does not exist any longer.

Why don't you tell us or simply link us to something that makes these comparisons.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: tuneit1967 on October 11, 2009, 04:03:03 pm
The thing I find most interesting in conversations is that most people believe we are a democracy when the truth is we are a republic...

There is a difference.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: liljp617 on October 11, 2009, 08:31:56 pm
The thing I find most interesting in conversations is that most people believe we are a democracy when the truth is we are a republic...

There is a difference.

The funny thing about that is most people who tout the "go democracy!" relentlessly would despise living in a true democracy.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: betru2yourhrt on October 11, 2009, 09:03:30 pm
We don't know where the world is heading, but I don't think the USA is coming to an end. We are a strong nation and can get through anything that is thrown at us.  ;D
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: dexterjrh on October 11, 2009, 09:12:12 pm
What do you mean is the usa coming to an end. Usa is not coming to an end, if any the world will come to an end. If that happens, then you will know it.

I support the Troops
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: ahunter300 on October 12, 2009, 08:02:24 am
The United States of Amrerica is a Belief - it is not a place, not a person - it is the belief that all have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness - Health, Happiness, Peace, and Positive Perspective - IMHO >> In My Humble Opinion - The MUSEUM, Zazzle
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: starcharm24 on October 12, 2009, 08:10:05 pm
i think that it is as strong as ever and will keep on being so. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: aprildowling on October 12, 2009, 08:57:03 pm
Mexicans are trying to take over the country, and soon this will be "Americo" or something like that.  Nobody notices because they are sneeky little rats, but all the evidence is there.  Slowly, but surely they are all sneaking in illegally, spreading around all their diseases and over-population this country.  Every now is learning Spanish, so be prepared.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: liljp617 on October 12, 2009, 09:03:10 pm
Mexicans are trying to take over the country, and soon this will be "Americo" or something like that.  Nobody notices because they are sneeky little rats, but all the evidence is there.  Slowly, but surely they are all sneaking in illegally, spreading around all their diseases and over-population this country.  Every now is learning Spanish, so be prepared.

-.- Can I get a thumbs up on xenophobia and racism?
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: dreamyxo on October 13, 2009, 06:08:26 am
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Mexicans are trying to take over the country, and soon this will be "Americo" or something like that.  Nobody notices because they are sneeky little rats, but all the evidence is there.  Slowly, but surely they are all sneaking in illegally, spreading around all their diseases and over-population this country.  Every now is learning Spanish, so be prepared.

If America hadn't stole Texas, California, New Mexico, Arizona, etc from Mexico Spanish would have been your original language.  They way I see it they're just coming back home.  Oh and lets not forget those sneaky colonists who took everything from the Native Americans.  Who are the rats now?
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: Falconer02 on October 13, 2009, 10:29:36 am
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Mexicans are trying to take over the country, and soon this will be "Americo" or something like that.  Nobody notices because they are sneeky little rats, but all the evidence is there.  Slowly, but surely they are all sneaking in illegally, spreading around all their diseases and over-population this country.  Every now is learning Spanish, so be prepared.

Yeah like dude I no its liek now we have a black president who dont has a birth certificate so hes like in office illegally and the best race (fyi WHITE PEOPLE) is dwindling down because of illegal mexican spanish d00ds and all the white people are moving to Canada and New Zeelind. Amarica is screwed in liek I give it 5 moar years.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: dreamyxo on October 13, 2009, 12:04:00 pm
It's screwed because of all the ignorant and not to mention illiterate people who can't put together a decent sentence to save their lives, who have nothing useful to contribute to the world regardless of race or national origin.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: Falconer02 on October 13, 2009, 03:42:22 pm
My post was a joke.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: DeadKoalaBear on October 13, 2009, 04:05:39 pm
IT SURE WAS  ;D
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: Falconer02 on October 13, 2009, 04:56:52 pm
...Or was it!? We'll never know!
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: eSineM on October 13, 2009, 05:00:33 pm
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Mexicans are trying to take over the country, and soon this will be "Americo" or something like that.  Nobody notices because they are sneeky little rats, but all the evidence is there.  Slowly, but surely they are all sneaking in illegally, spreading around all their diseases and over-population this country.  Every now is learning Spanish, so be prepared.

Yeah like dude I no its liek now we have a black president who dont has a birth certificate so hes like in office illegally and the best race (fyi WHITE PEOPLE) is dwindling down because of illegal mexican spanish d00ds and all the white people are moving to Canada and New Zeelind. Amarica is screwed in liek I give it 5 moar years.

wheee heee dawgy  amen praise jesus brotha
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: iamkiener on October 13, 2009, 06:07:18 pm
No, I try not to think about it and just live my life day to day. you should try it  ;D
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: SherryChampion on October 13, 2009, 06:13:24 pm
I believe this world has come to its end. It is time to face the one who made us and be judged for our duties. :angel12:
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: lancenweman1978 on October 13, 2009, 06:24:04 pm






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Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: lexus16888 on October 13, 2009, 06:29:44 pm
no no no usa #1 #1 #1
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: liljp617 on October 13, 2009, 06:45:26 pm
I believe this world has come to its end. It is time to face the one who made us and be judged for our duties. :angel12:

Yes, welcome to every single period in the era of recorded history -.-
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: giovi on October 13, 2009, 07:09:53 pm
well i dont kno u kno how everybody is saying that in december 21 2012.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: liljp617 on October 13, 2009, 07:42:50 pm
well i dont kno u kno how everybody is saying that in december 21 2012.

No, I see a minority of people who don't think for themselves getting caught up in irrational, frankly dumb, hysteria.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: mgint on October 20, 2009, 09:54:24 am
no we have the best country around we have problems but we will always work them out. Is there anyplace else you would lke to live
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: liljp617 on October 20, 2009, 09:55:08 am
no we have the best country around we have problems but we will always work them out. Is there anyplace else you would lke to live

Out of curiosity, how many times have you been out of the country for more than a week?
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: Falconer02 on October 20, 2009, 10:11:41 am
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no we have the best country around we have problems but we will always work them out. Is there anyplace else you would lke to live

New Zealand. Or Kenya. Maybe Japan for a while.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: cbetancourt1 on October 20, 2009, 10:15:24 am
USA well fall because of many corruption
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: liljp617 on October 20, 2009, 03:32:08 pm
USA well fall because of many corruption

The US government has been corrupted from day one.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: oldbuddy on October 20, 2009, 03:50:27 pm
USA well fall because of many corruption

The US government has been corrupted from day one.
So has Mexico and they are still around.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: southernhorizons on October 20, 2009, 04:35:50 pm
I think the USA will probably be around for a long time yet. But the American Republic that always was so great and strong, not much longer. Everything that America has meant is being given up by people who want the government to babysit them. Freedom, self-sufficiency, limited government with only the authority specified in the Constitution; no one seems to care about these any more. Take from the rich and give to the poor has always been a socialist slogan, and yet we see the supposedly free Americans supporting that. While our soldiers fight for freedom overseas, the people in this country are giving their freedom away without even a struggle. Not liking Obama does not make one racist, when we dislike him because he promises all the same things that Hitler promised. Obama is at the forefront of those who are dragging this country down into Socialism.
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: ls12709 on October 20, 2009, 10:10:28 pm
no
Title: Re: Do you think you USA is coming to a end?
Post by: liljp617 on October 21, 2009, 11:23:53 am
USA well fall because of many corruption

The US government has been corrupted from day one.
So has Mexico and they are still around.

That was my point.